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[modrobert]

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The first Brit to get vaccinated
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dead within six months.

The first Canadian to get vaccinated
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dead within six months

These cases are just noise. Isolated cases. If my neighbor wins the National Lottery, it doesn't mean everyone will win. But that's what people see, and they go and gamble their money away.

Currently, there are more than 1,500,000,000 fully vaccinated people (more than 3,000,000,000 doses administered) worldwide. Even if there are 1000 deaths that are provably caused by the vaccines themselves and no other illnesses, this is still a near-zero mortality rate (0.000067% to be precise).

Problem is, out of the 1,500,000,000 vaccinations, the mass media will say nothing about the 1,499,999,000 people who are healthy and protected, but they will be screaming 27/4 about the 1000 deaths.

If all vaccinated people die 6 months after getting the vaccine, there will be nearly a billion deaths by the end of the year. Not a long way away. We'll see...

It's comically dramatic, and borderline dark satire when friends of the dead recommend vaccination as a final tribute.



Mainstream media should focus on getting facts across, but they always end up going for the drama.

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[vapourminer]

[...]

The first Brit to get vaccinated
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dead within six months.

The first Canadian to get vaccinated
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dead within six months

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If all vaccinated people die 6 months after getting the vaccine, there will be nearly a billion deaths by the end of the year. Not a long way away. We'll see...

so.. me with 4 months to go.. huh

then apparently im waaaaaaay behind on hookers lambos and blow

[El duderino_]

Man again $35k broken and in 10 sec sell of to $34800


Who is it lets hunt him down? Proudhon?

Only holding it back until there is no holding back anymore

[ChartBuddy]

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[UnDerDoG81]

If I had to guess I think they squeezing out alts and then let em plummet and move all gains to Bitcoin. But I dont have the balls to trade that 

[Copetech]

OK guys, I've been looking at the depth charts for my chosen exchange. (I know, mediocre tool for predictions at best.) But what I'm seeing is we keep bouncing back and forth between the 1k buy and sell orders in the range between $33k & $35k. These look like traders, ie same coins being bought and sold repeatedly by the same people.
But if you zoom out a little bit, around $27.5k it spikes up to 5k+ buy orders currently on the books and doesn't look like stop loss sell orders really start until about $24k. And in the other direction, the furthest I can zoom out to see is $70k and the sell orders are relatively flat (between 1k-2k) up to that point. So my thinking is, if we can get a good dippening down to the $27.5k range, and pick up those 5k+ buy orders (plus the unscheduled market buy orders of unknown volume) It looks like it would create the momentum to carry us clear up to the $70k-$75k range in a sustainable way.

But hey, I'm still relatively new to all this so what do I know... right?

[Dabs]

BTW, how many times someone has to watch Tenet to fully understand it?
I kinda of get it...but sometimes the ends don't really meet (unsurprisingly).

Definitely has a lot of loose ends. Time travel stuff always will. I think Nolan's reach exceeded his grasp on that one TBH.

Anything with time travel will always be in the realm of science fiction. Terminator, Back to the Future, The Flash TV series (Barry runs so fast he can go to the past or the future), Time Cop ... Avengers.

The only way to travel through time is towards the future, and that's not really time travel, that's just waiting in stasis until you wake up, or you travel so fast time passes faster for everyone else, which kinda defeats the purpose of trying to move as fast as light or faster than light.

One can maybe "visit" or see the past, but so far "travelling" to the past is simply not possible. We'd have seen something by now maybe.

[ChartBuddy]

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[philipma1957]

Explanation

Buddy pops again.

As to vaxing:

Let us say I am dr evil and want to lower the worlds population.

I can choose who to kill the vaxers or the anti vaxers,

1)Killing the vaxers with a bad tax means I am filing the sheeple that obey and I normally make a ton of money on them.

2)Killing the anti-vaxers with new worse strains mean I kill people willing to storm Washington DC in the Name of freedom.

I ask all the anti-vaxers to read the  above 2) sentences and consider being a wolf in sheeple's clothing.

Get the Vax and try to go after the Dr Evil's of the world a bit more cleverly.

Remember the Gov knows how many are not vaxing. They know it is you.

[suchmoon]

so.. me with 4 months to go.. huh

then apparently im waaaaaaay behind on hookers lambos and blow

That's it, we found the culprit. Lambo dealers are obviously behind this "you'll die in 6 months" bullshit. Well, the joke's on them, I'm getting a McLaren.

[AlcoHoDL]

[...]

The first Brit to get vaccinated
...
dead within six months.

The first Canadian to get vaccinated
...
dead within six months

[...]

If all vaccinated people die 6 months after getting the vaccine, there will be nearly a billion deaths by the end of the year. Not a long way away. We'll see...

so.. me with 4 months to go.. huh

then apparently im waaaaaaay behind on hookers lambos and blow

Me, 5 1/2 months to go (only recently had the 2nd dose).

Something that worries me a bit, is that two days ago I was at a work party (about 30 people) and no one was wearing a mask (including me). Everyone had been vaccinated, and everyone Rapid-tested negative that morning, just before the gathering. I wonder if some of us get infected and develop symptoms because of this. They should be mild, if any, but let's see what happens. We are having weekly Rapid tests at work, so if there is infection, it should show on some of us.

YOLO. Hookers and blow ASAP!

[xhomerx10]

[...]

The first Brit to get vaccinated
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dead within six months.

The first Canadian to get vaccinated
...
dead within six months

These cases are just noise. Isolated cases. If my neighbor wins the National Lottery, it doesn't mean everyone will win. But that's what people see, and they go and gamble their money away.

Currently, there are more than 1,500,000,000 fully vaccinated people (more than 3,000,000,000 doses administered) worldwide. Even if there are 1000 deaths that are provably caused by the vaccines themselves and no other illnesses, this is still a near-zero mortality rate (0.000067% to be precise).

Problem is, out of the 1,500,000,000 vaccinations, the mass media will say nothing about the 1,499,999,000 people who are healthy and protected, but they will be screaming 27/4 about the 1000 deaths.

If all vaccinated people die 6 months after getting the vaccine, there will be nearly a billion deaths by the end of the year. Not a long way away. We'll see...

 Sorry, it was a sneaky way to get a different discussion going.  The people dying in 6 months will be exactly as the ones I've shown because we vaccinated the most elderly first.  It's not the same as a lottery win to die at age 80+ in fact, it's pretty much the opposite.  Those two deaths above are not noise nor are they isolated cases. They were common age-related deaths which happen every day, everywhere and let's assume they had nothing at all to do with the vaccine.  Had they not gotten the vaccine, they might have contracted covid and died sooner but their deaths would have occurred, at most, 6 months earlier.  Vaccinated people are still getting covid and dying (still mostly elderly) while some people are dying from the vaccine at a very young age.  If we had listened to the vaccine companies when the first young people began to die from vaccine-related causes, there would most certainly have been more premature deaths due to the vaccines.  Some countries were quicker to act than others on banning certain vaccines or age-restricting their use.  We won't know until the dust settles which deaths were more unacceptable.  Will the number of months of life saved using the vaccine be greater than the number of years of life lost by the same vaccine?  Since they're already talking about annual booster shots, this might be something we need to consider.  Maybe we'll never do the math because it could only ever be speculation on either side of the equation.

 Mass media isn't screaming about the 1000 deaths!!  If they were, we would all know that it's more than 1000. (VAERS reports say 5700 deaths post vaccine in the USA alone) So no, they're fully onboard with the current vaccination program and they were instrumental at reporting the number of daily deaths "due to covid" without giving context.  However, those 1000 vaccine deaths (let's call that an accurate number) at an average age of 30 which has shaved an average of 50 years off of each life, equates to 600,000 lost months of life (worth screaming about I would say) which is the 6 month life extension granted to 100,000 elderly people who received the vaccine... we hope.  Of course we don't know if they would have lived longer than that 6 months had they not received the vaccine (Hank Aaron age 86 lasted only a few days post-vaccine but died of "natural causes" did he even need the vaccine?!  Was it really beneficial?) and there doesn't really seem to be a great interest in finding that out anyway.  I know, I know... long covid, right?  Well, what about long vaccine?  Does it only cause very premature death or a sore arm?  I find it hard to believe there aren't many other levels of debilitation in between those extremes.  We are slowly finding out that there other effects but each one is called "rare" and each one affecting a younger audience as they move their vaccine program toward our children and soon our babies.  It's fine to call 5 to 30 out of 1,000,000 rare but if you have multiple "rare" effects, at what point will we decide that the negative effects from the vaccine are not rare?  When we start getting annual boosters then it becomes 2X (rare+rare+rare+rare) and 3X (rare+rare+rare+rare+rare)... (no. of years you live)X((rare+rare+rare+rare+rare+rare+(any other newly discovered debilitating effect)).  They've already decided based on short term limited testing that the vaccines are safe and effective so until other problems present themselves, it's full speed ahead with the vaccine program.   New 'rare' potentially deadly side effects are only studied as they arise and only after it becomes painfully obvious that they are attributable to the vaccine and you can be guaranteed push-back from the vaccine companies who will initially claim "it's no more common with the vaccine than it is in the general population" until some German scientist shows causality and finds the mechanism of injury at which point they just become silent on the issue and keep producing the same vaccine.  This is the largest experimental vaccine program (maybe even the largest known science experiment) in the history of mankind.  We can only hope it ends well.

 I'm rambling... too much caffeine - that's another long story

[NeuroticFish]

Something that worries me a bit, is that two days ago I was at a work party (about 30 people) and no one was wearing a mask (including me). Everyone had been vaccinated, and everyone Rapid-tested negative that morning, just before the gathering. I wonder if some of us get infected and develop symptoms because of this. They should be mild, if any, but let's see what happens. We are having weekly Rapid tests at work, so if there is infection, it should show on some of us.

That's exactly why I ve got the vaccine. And for traveling/holidays. Vaccinated people should have way less chance to spread the vaccine (5x less?), less chance to get infected and even if they get infected, the symptoms should be mild. With your colleagues also rapid-tested (overkill imho), you should be fine.

You seem to be worrying even more than me; and I've got the second shot also less than 2 weeks ago  .

[lightfoot]

Yeah, I was the one wearing the P100 respirators and I'm not really wearing a mask right now. Might pack the respirator on my next trip to FL, those Republican states are quickly becoming hotbeds of disease and infection. But other than that living near sane people helps a lot.

[ChartBuddy]

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[WaltKitty]

BTW, how many times someone has to watch Tenet to fully understand it?
I kinda of get it...but sometimes the ends don't really meet (unsurprisingly).

Definitely has a lot of loose ends. Time travel stuff always will. I think Nolan's reach exceeded his grasp on that one TBH.

Anything with time travel will always be in the realm of science fiction. Terminator, Back to the Future, The Flash TV series (Barry runs so fast he can go to the past or the future), Time Cop ... Avengers.

The only way to travel through time is towards the future, and that's not really time travel, that's just waiting in stasis until you wake up, or you travel so fast time passes faster for everyone else, which kinda defeats the purpose of trying to move as fast as light or faster than light.

One can maybe "visit" or see the past, but so far "travelling" to the past is simply not possible. We'd have seen something by now maybe.

Without getting into the math too much there are a couple of reasons I believe time travel is nothing but a pipe dream. Imagine two people standing on either side of a doorway wanting to travel through time. Alice looks through the doorway and see's Bob staring back a her. She wants to step from her present into her past by going through the doorway into Bob's present. So now we have two distinct problems, one is figuring out the exact temporal distance between Alice and Bob but you also need to calculate the exact spatial distance as well. For Alice to just step through the doorway and be standing next to Bob if they are in the same house is a huge problem. You would need to know the exact spatial relationship between Alice, Bob and the doorway. This would be a incredibly complex problem for the world's best supercomputers today...even though Bob and Alice are only a few feet and a few seconds apart in the above scenario. Imagine trying to bridge a spatial relationship gap of centuries and thousands of miles. The Earth is orbiting the Sun at 67,000mph, the Sun orbits our Milkyway at 500,000mph. Everything is moving 1,367,016.623mph in relation to the CMB.
My point being is I dont think traveling through time is a easy problem to crack given the computational resources required to establish where you are and where you would like to go. I did like the swimming pool part in that movie, one of the more realistic scenes imo.    

[suchmoon]

VAERS reports say 5700 deaths post vaccine in the USA alone

I'm sure a lot of people die within 24 hours of taking a shower but that doesn't mean showers are deadly. Here is what VAERS site itself says about the data:

When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event.

It's essentially an alert system for CDC to start investigating any potential issues. 5000+ people die in the US every day and with more than half of the population vaccinated most of those deaths will have occurred after a vaccination. That doesn't mean there is a causal link.

We won't know until the dust settles which deaths were more unacceptable.  Will the number of months of life saved using the vaccine be greater than the number of years of life lost by the same vaccine?  Since they're already talking about annual booster shots, this might be something we need to consider.  Maybe we'll never do the math because it could only ever be speculation on either side of the equation.

There is no need to speculate. Excess deaths - the number of deaths compared to prior years - tells the story.

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

[AlcoHoDL]

@xhomerx10:

I guess it's a matter of probabilities. I have friends and colleagues who went through hell (and not quite back yet) due to COVID-19, having to use respirators at home for long periods of time, possibly forever, and one even cannot walk without an aid (a metal structure that old people use to walk, I don't know the word in English), but this guy is 45 years old! IMHO, the risk of getting COVID-19 and ending up in this situation or worse by not getting the vaccine is far greater than the risk of the vaccine itself harming you in some way. How do I know? I don't! It's just my guess based on what I see, hear, read, and common sense.

That was the point of my lottery example. We tend to expect a drug or vaccine to be 100% effective. Even a tiny percentage of a side-effect can ruin its reputation. Mass media love drama, and they will put every single side-effect caused by the vaccines on their front page, which can be very misleading to the passive news consumer.

Not getting vaccinated seems like choosing to go to battle without a shield. BTW, Homer, have you had the vaccine yet? And your family? Just asking out of curiosity, after all, no one knows anyone here, no harm in disclosing it. It's fine if you don't want to say, of course.


@NeuroticFish:

Yeah, I know what you mean. You know, after getting the second dose and completing the vaccination, I feel that I'm less careful about protecting myself. Not wearing a mask outside, staying close to people not wearing masks for a long time, etc. The vaccine seems to be making us lower our natural defenses, and this could be bad if the vaccines are actually less effective than they claim to be.

Now, what's done is done, our DNA has changed, prepare to grow tails in a few months and join the new-world reptilian post-human era.


@suchmoon:

Well said!

[UnDerDoG81]

VAERS reports say 5700 deaths post vaccine in the USA alone

I'm sure a lot of people die within 24 hours of taking a shower but that doesn't mean showers are deadly.

Same can be said about covid. İf I dont want to take that vaccine then I dont want it. İt should be my choice. Not the peoples choice who had the vaccine. Why they even care? They are "safe" anyway. They looking for any way to blame none vaccinated for anything that happens. It's discusting whats going on in the world just for control and profts. And the worst is, people with vaccine support this crime against us without vaccine. İt's 1933 Germany but world wide. We the none vacced are the Jews and propaganda media blaming all on us while folks support the propaganda. Same method just 88 years later. I am sure the camps will come sooner or latet for those who will not accept this stuff in their bodies. And the 90% will hunt us.

I foresaw what's currently going on 1 week after the "pandemic" started. It was all very unnatural and massive propaganda from the beginning on. It's the same method they used after 9/11. Fear and panic. On every corner a muslim is waiting to kill you.

[NeuroticFish]

You know, after getting the second dose and completing the vaccination, I feel that I'm less careful about protecting myself. Not wearing a mask outside, staying close to people not wearing masks for a long time, etc.

If you acknowledge this part, you're still on the safe side. It means that whenever you see the signs (for example rise of infection rate in your country) you will add additional protection.
Many didn't take the vaccine and still do like you said and they're still 98% safe, just because the number of infections has fallen. You are better protected than them.

Now, what's done is done, our DNA has changed, prepare to grow tails in a few months and join the new-world reptilian post-human era.

After Bitcoin rises enough, nobody will care if we have tails or not under out suits.
And unfortunately, those scared that they'll grow tails, ... may die before our expiration period of 6 months. You know: "winter is coming". Within the 6 months.