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This might be a bear trap. Then straight to 60K+.
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-EDIT-  I see Torque already laid this out. Wink  I will say one other thing.  When I changed the content of my diet I did not have to even CARE about the amount.  I cuold eat like a horse and would still lose weight.

That's another clue.  If the system was purely energy in/out, then we would have skeletons and super fat people.  Because just eating an extra 100 calories a day that you do not need?  That will eventually make you morbidly obese... and same thing with a deficit.  The body would waste away with a -100 kCal deficit.  But our hormones and systems adjust and keep us in the "set weight" zone either way.  What MOVES the set weight are things that cause the body to produce insulin.

I like that explanation about diet. Very insightful. Thanks.
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December 03, 2021, 05:34:02 PM

Yeah, diet is more complicated than it seems to be, but I'm basically a carnivore ... actually, omnivore ... eat real food.

I keep telling others that I am on a See Food diet. When I see food, I eat it.

Junk = is not food.

But yeah, you have to watch what you eat, not so much how much of it you eat (but watch that too.)
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It really does come down to macro nutrients.  Thre are two big things we eat now that we did not used to.  Highly refined carbohydrates and seed oils.  People who drop those two things will live longer and look more like our great grandparents who did not eat them.

Don't forget sugar. The average modern Western diet is loaded with massive amounts of sugar. It is pervasive in pre-packaged and pre-prepared food products. Our great grandparents did not eat this on the regular either.

The MSM (FDA and food industry) also spent decades vilifying fat, especially saturated fat, as the root cause of all health problems and disease. Even obesity. And because of that, most Americans have continued to reduce or try to eliminate fat consumption from their diets while increasing their refined carbs intake.

But new studies and research is out there (buried by the MSM, of course) that prove that fat (including saturated fat) is not only NOT bad for you, it's fucking essential to a healthy diet. Go figure.
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Of course, this diet discussion is all academic as we can only afford Ramen now.
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Of course, this diet discussion is all academic as we can only afford Ramen now.

I prefer bread and pullit
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I am reading attestations of losing 60 lb and keeping it off with a bit of bemusement.
Maybe, when you are 30 (or earlier than 40).

At a certain age (35-40, typically), body weight is stabilized and it is VERY difficult to permanently lose weight.
In fact, any loss of 5-10% of the weight is considered by the body that you are 'starving' or 'dying', so it is throwing the "book" at you by adjusting hormonal systems in a way that keeping the lost weight becomes more and more difficult.

Of course, if someone starts eating pasta twice a day every day, they would gain a lot of weight in a short duration and then simply reversing that should be possible.

Btw, humans and other animals DO lose about 10% of the weight before death (for humans, in the last year or two).
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December 03, 2021, 06:17:33 PM

Of course, this diet discussion is all academic as we can only afford Ramen now.

yup. i buy ramen by the pallet load and imma gonna burn the pallets for heat this winter. food AND heat in one shot.
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Of course, this diet discussion is all academic as we can only afford Ramen now.

yup. i buy ramen by the pallet load and imma gonna burn the pallets for heat this winter. food AND heat in one shot.

You can cook the ramen on the stove/fire as you burn the pallets - win-win-win
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This "cycle" is weird, if I may say so.
I am getting 'lost' in all these gyrations, but hodling through for better or worse.
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This might be a bear trap. Then staight to 60K+.

Exactlyyyy
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This might be a bear trap. Then staight to 60K+.

Exactlyyyy

Dec 8 or shortly beforehand should provide a pivot (either up or down).
Knowing (from prior and current experience) how WS operates, there is often a counter move just before the main directional move.
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December 03, 2021, 06:41:43 PM

I am reading attestations of losing 60 lb and keeping it off with a bit of bemusement.
Maybe, when you are 30 (or earlier than 40).

At a certain age (35-40, typically), body weight is stabilized and it is VERY difficult to permanently lose weight.
In fact, any loss of 5-10% of the weight is considered by the body that you are 'starving' or 'dying', so it is throwing the "book" at you by adjusting hormonal systems in a way that keeping the lost weight becomes more and more difficult.

Of course, if someone starts eating pasta twice a day every day, they would gain a lot of weight in a short duration and then simply reversing that should be possible.

Btw, humans and other animals DO lose about 10% of the weight before death (for humans, in the last year or two).

google ketogenic diet and lose weight at any age.
fuck carbs, you can live off fat and proteins, with little natural carbs (vegetables and rarely fruit).
Fat doesn't even stress the liver, opposed to cheap carbs (flour, sugars) which do not only feed bad gut bacteria as well as mess up your insulin level (pancreas).

And cold water plunges, of course. They break up and burn reserves, no need to strain your joints by running miles within a certain heart rate range.
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December 03, 2021, 06:50:55 PM

It really does come down to macro nutrients.  Thre are two big things we eat now that we did not used to.  Highly refined carbohydrates and seed oils.  People who drop those two things will live longer and look more like our great grandparents who did not eat them.

Don't forget sugar. The average modern Western diet is loaded with massive amounts of sugar. It is pervasive in pre-packaged and pre-prepared food products. Our great grandparents did not eat this on the regular either.

The MSM (FDA and food industry) also spent decades vilifying fat, especially saturated fat, as the root cause of all health problems and disease. Even obesity. And because of that, most Americans have continued to reduce or try to eliminate fat consumption from their diets while increasing their refined carbs intake.

But new studies and research is out there (buried by the MSM, of course) that prove that fat (including saturated fat) is not only NOT bad for you, it's fucking essential to a healthy diet. Go figure.

 Go on!  Surely the FDA wouldn't put their stamp of approval on anything that wasn't "safe and effective" now, would they?
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December 03, 2021, 06:55:44 PM
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I am reading attestations of losing 60 lb and keeping it off with a bit of bemusement.
Maybe, when you are 30 (or earlier than 40).

At a certain age (35-40, typically), body weight is stabilized and it is VERY difficult to permanently lose weight.
In fact, any loss of 5-10% of the weight is considered by the body that you are 'starving' or 'dying', so it is throwing the "book" at you by adjusting hormonal systems in a way that keeping the lost weight becomes more and more difficult.

Of course, if someone starts eating pasta twice a day every day, they would gain a lot of weight in a short duration and then simply reversing that should be possible.

Btw, humans and other animals DO lose about 10% of the weight before death (for humans, in the last year or two).

google ketogenic diet and lose weight at any age.
fuck carbs, you can live off fat and proteins, with little natural carbs (vegetables and rarely fruit).
Fat doesn't even stress the liver, opposed to cheap carbs (flour, sugars) which do not only feed bad gut bacteria as well as mess up your insulin level (pancreas).

And cold water plunges, of course. They break up and burn reserves, no need to strain your joints by running miles within a certain heart rate range.


What works for you might not work for someone else.
I will leave you with these two references:

https://www.salon.com/2020/12/13/thinsplaining-is-real-science-says-permanent-weight-loss-is-rare-and-thin-people-dont-get-it/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/media-spotlight/201811/is-permanent-weight-loss-myth

Personally, i don't really care too much about the weight as long as it is stable.
About 10 years ago, i made a major effort, lost 20 lb (wasn't even much overweight, just wanted to get back to my late 20ies weight), but started to feel terrible...that feeling of 'enjoying' yourself was temporarily gone.
Now, I don't care much, just limit the amounts of food and increased veggies.
As long as you are not obese (BMI <29-30) and stable (not gaining), I don't think any extra effort is really needed.
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