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He said the first student called 911 at 12:03 p.m., and calls continued for more than 45 minutes, during which operators could hear gunfire over the phone. At 12:16, McGraw said, a girl called to report that "eight to nine" students were alive.

Chickenshit cocksucking Pigs hid outside while the kids were murdered.


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I have a you tube link that shows an ar-15 against bulletproof vests.

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I am scarred by JJG; He will pop up with millions of words saying it's a WO BTC thread and why do you post shit?

Never heard of her

I am not sure if JayJuanGee is she or he. Have you never heard of JJG?

I'm glad my "Juanita Journalist for WallStreet" is getting traction !! Cheesy Cheesy ... That gall needs to be unveiled, she is a crook with small titties!!  Shocked  Grin  Cool  Roll Eyes   Roll Eyes

It's not the size of the ship.. it's the motion of the ocean..

I heard that somewhere before, too.



Juanithá! .. My dilemma is : "How long will the dip last??" .......... Will it be more then a day? Maybe a few hours?? Will I be awake, ready and will I be able to achieve maximum greed??  Cheesy  Cheesy

These are all troublesome matters.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

You should know better than to ask such a naive question.

Are you trying to get your ass beat on purpose?

#justasking

Sure, it is possible that the bottom is already in, but it is just a matter of probabilities in regards to is the bottom in and then the other part of the question would be what are the odds that it will take longer to reach the bottom and therefore will we get a bottom in 2 weeks or will it take 3-6 months or even the more pessimistic scenarios of 1 to 2 years.  

It's not like anyone has the answer to those questions at this particular time, even though some folks have theories, and some folks might have some better ways of assigning probabilities than others to both the degree of the dip and the timeline that it will take to get to the lowest amount... but even the best (and smartest of theories) are not going to know the answers with any level of certainty, but instead be able to set themselves up in such a way that they are prepared for either direction.. or both directions, as some folks like to express the matter.

Also, if you are not being realistic in your actual assignment of probabilities and preparing for both directions, then you are likely going to end up getting screwed because you are gambling too much with what should mostly be treating as a long term investment and an investment on what appears to be one of the strongest asymmetric bets to the upside that we have ever had (as normies / regular peeps).. in terms of being available to anyone and everyone.. enemies and/or friends.. rich and poor... individuals and institutions.. governments and financial institutions... and maybe other categories that I forgot.  Aliens and bots too, perhaps?  Oh that's where you come into the picture, Save the RF.  hahahaha

Snap out of it.  Snap the fuck out of it Save the RF.. before you get a slappening.





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JJG? Definitely a she. No man would or ever could write entire novels just to complain about another man's almost unnoticable mistakes. But we love her.

JJG loves you too.. #nohomo.


I had to put that one in the third person.. just to be MOAR safer.


At which point, does BTC reach less volatility?


Would you embrace this or no?


Judging by some of the comments in here over the years, some of you defo seem to not like volatility... least not when it is working against you (price down)


Personally, I see it as a feature.... one that people seem to forget for some reason .... "this time is different"



How would you feel, with less volatility?......  what do I mean by that ? well lets call it , not an average high to low of 82.5% , for example...


But one day, you would think that "it will be different" , even potentially desirable ? (for some anyway)



How about you? Do you long for less volatility (yeah, that includes two way price movement)  or are you "happy" with the current volatility?


I had long assumed, that, eventually the volatility will dampen, as more and more value becomes locked in.....and I still assume this.... though starting to wonder , where that tipping point could be.... and what , pushes it there? is it actually traditional instruments like futures/options etc?  


How do you guys feel about it?


Personally I like the volatility, and also I personally feel that people should be linking cycle lows, rather than cycle highs to "chart" bitcoin

ps, what if that volatility were to become say 7% between cycles, as in each cycle BTC high, or low , moves up by 7%...  or a 10 year doubling time ?

You don't really seem to be saying anything new..

Guys (and gal) in this thread have made those kinds of claims for years.

1) BTC volatility is inevitable.. especially in the short to medium term and probably a good 10-20 years into the future, minimum.

2) BTC's volatility is likely to decrease as it's market cap gets higher -

3) - overlapping of 1) & 2), as bitcoin grows, there will be BIGGER and BIGGER players coming into the bitcoin scene with more money and more financial instruments to push the BTC price around, but still net over net volatility will continue for a long time - as suggested by 1), even if BTC's market cap is increasing.. but at the same time, the volatility will still decrease over time because the market cap is increasing - as suggested by 2).
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 Russia is actively discussing using "digital currencies" for international payments – Government official

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1) BTC volatility is inevitable.. especially in the short to medium term and probably a good 10-20 years into the future, minimum.

2) BTC's volatility is likely to decrease as it's market cap gets higher -

3) - overlapping of 1) & 2), as bitcoin grows, there will be BIGGER and BIGGER players coming into the bitcoin scene with more money and more financial instruments to push the BTC price around, but still net over net volatility will continue for a long time - as suggested by 1), even if BTC's market cap is increasing.. but at the same time, the volatility will still decrease over time because the market cap is increasing - as suggested by 2).

I was wishfully thinking the volatility would settle down after 60K  50K 40K
WTF was I smoking?  (don't answer that)
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Ken Griffin (Citadel)  – Bitcoin /regulation and various


https://youtu.be/73IeQW_E10w



....another one bites the dust

The overall point of possibly "coming around to crypto" may well be fair.. but the video is a bit cringe-worthy to get through.. with some of the seeming confusing language contained therein - which causes me to question if Griffin really knows what is "crypto"... I don't have too many clues about what is crypto either, but at least the video did use the word bitcoin in a few spots.. but still Griffin tends to speak in pretty damned broad generalizations.. perhaps he has some smarter folks on his team.. but I am having my doubts, otherwise they should have already helped him to fix his language a wee bit moar better -be e some ofthe guys are having some trouble actually using the word bitcoin.. so that might be part of their blockage in their really communicating something meaningful besides some vagueries in regards to FOMO regrets.. .. and the channel referring to Warren Buffet or Mark Cuban as evidence of folks "coming around to 'crypto " hardly inspires me.
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....another one bites the dust

The overall point of possibly "coming around to crypto" may well be fair.. but the video is a bit cringe-worthy to get through.. with some of the seeming confusing language contained therein - which causes me to question if Griffin really knows what is "crypto"... I don't have too many clues about what is crypto either, but at least the video did use the word bitcoin in a few spots.. but still Griffin tends to speak in pretty damned broad generalizations.. perhaps he has some smarter folks on his team.. but I am having my doubts, otherwise they should have already helped him to fix his language a wee bit moar better -be e some ofthe guys are having some trouble actually using the word bitcoin.. so that might be part of their blockage in their really communicating something meaningful besides some vagueries in regards to FOMO regrets.. .. and the channel referring to Warren Buffet or Mark Cuban as evidence of folks "coming around to 'crypto " hardly inspires me.

I know I joke about it a lot, but I totally agree with you, Jay.
I really wish bitcoin and "crypto" could be separated into 2 distinct entities.
As long as shitcoins exist, I'm not sure that can ever happen.
 I've said this before and I'll say it again. Bitcoin and shitcoins are, for better or worse (mostly worst)
joined at the hip. Trading, mining etc.   I would not be "mining" bitcoin on my gpus , were it not for a certain crypto shitcoin, not to be mentioned.
I don't have a solution. I wish I did. That is all.
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Although the price doesn't look sexy now, we should appreciate that BTCitcoin passed through both the covid crisis and the war in Ukraine with minimal losses. We live in a rapidly changing world, where instead of 2 now we have only 1 super-power left. I mean because of the stubborness of putler, ruZia lost most of its war machines and is on the way of losing them all. They have no aviation, no tanks, no cruise missles left, and Nato's arms are not even deployed in numbers yet. This is a total humiliation for a nation of drunkards pretending to be something else. The anger and fury of putler is entertaining. He is desperately trying to scare the world by showing off his nukes, which is laughable even according to one recent comentator on their national TV. For me it is clear that we will have the first in the world's history capitulation of a nuclear power. But, I'm a bit worried if there is a civil war in ruZia, which is quite probable in the coming years, how this would affect the price of BTCitcoin. Apart from this, the next halving is coming in 2 years and the FOMO will kick in soon. If BTCitcoin holds the 30K range until then, we can safely assume that the next bull run the price will go way over 100K.
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.....price will go way over 100K.

Its a given that bitcoin will breech 100K in the future. Maybe even before I'm six feet under (or more likely, reduced to a fine ash in the cremo)
But that's really not saying a lot, when a loaf of bread will be $25... or more importantly, a 6pak of Bud Light swill will be $74.99...
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I am scarred by JJG; He will pop up with millions of words saying it's a WO BTC thread and why do you post shit?

Never heard of her

I am not sure if JayJuanGee is she or he. Have you never heard of JJG?

I'm glad my "Juanita Journalist for WallStreet" is getting traction !! Cheesy Cheesy ... That gall needs to be unveiled, she is a crook with small titties!!  Shocked  Grin  Cool  Roll Eyes   Roll Eyes

It's not the size of the ship.. it's the motion of the ocean..

I heard that somewhere before, too.



Juanithá! .. My dilemma is : "How long will the dip last??" .......... Will it be more then a day? Maybe a few hours?? Will I be awake, ready and will I be able to achieve maximum greed??  Cheesy  Cheesy

These are all troublesome matters.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

You should know better than to ask such a naive question.

Are you trying to get your ass beat on purpose?

#justasking

Sure, it is possible that the bottom is already in, but it is just a matter of probabilities in regards to is the bottom in and then the other part of the question would be what are the odds that it will take longer to reach the bottom and therefore will we get a bottom in 2 weeks or will it take 3-6 months or even the more pessimistic scenarios of 1 to 2 years.  

It's not like anyone has the answer to those questions at this particular time, even though some folks have theories, and some folks might have some better ways of assigning probabilities than others to both the degree of the dip and the timeline that it will take to get to the lowest amount... but even the best (and smartest of theories) are not going to know the answers with any level of certainty, but instead be able to set themselves up in such a way that they are prepared for either direction.. or both directions, as some folks like to express the matter.

Also, if you are not being realistic in your actual assignment of probabilities and preparing for both directions, then you are likely going to end up getting screwed because you are gambling too much with what should mostly be treating as a long term investment and an investment on what appears to be one of the strongest asymmetric bets to the upside that we have ever had (as normies / regular peeps).. in terms of being available to anyone and everyone.. enemies and/or friends.. rich and poor... individuals and institutions.. governments and financial institutions... and maybe other categories that I forgot.  Aliens and bots too, perhaps?  Oh that's where you come into the picture, Save the RF.  hahahaha

Snap out of it.  Snap the fuck out of it Save the RF.. before you get a slappening.





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I saw this on one YouTube video which said,

“Minute-Earth: Bitcoin mining is a lot like reindeer mating.”

Ok?

Well irrespective of the analogy he put here in mining vs mating, I got something positive from it, which is natural-selection that means bitcoin mining will eventually switch to cheaper and renewable energy sources at the end. There’s is no way miners will stick to costly energy, Wind or Solar will win for retail miners. But big players like countries or big techs will May bring Nuclear fusion or or may be a “Dyson Sphere” type solution, who knows? Mind it we are talking about “evaluation”, it doesn’t happen in days and 2140 is just the beginning like recently JJG said her “Rome was not built in a day”.

https://youtu.be/odsCJXE5d0E
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Ken Griffin (Citadel)  – Bitcoin /regulation and various


https://youtu.be/73IeQW_E10w



....another one bites the dust

The overall point of possibly "coming around to crypto" may well be fair.. but the video is a bit cringe-worthy to get through.. with some of the seeming confusing language contained therein - which causes me to question if Griffin really knows what is "crypto"... I don't have too many clues about what is crypto either, but at least the video did use the word bitcoin in a few spots.. but still Griffin tends to speak in pretty damned broad generalizations.. perhaps he has some smarter folks on his team.. but I am having my doubts, otherwise they should have already helped him to fix his language a wee bit moar better -be e some ofthe guys are having some trouble actually using the word bitcoin.. so that might be part of their blockage in their really communicating something meaningful besides some vagueries in regards to FOMO regrets.. .. and the channel referring to Warren Buffet or Mark Cuban as evidence of folks "coming around to 'crypto " hardly inspires me.

I know I joke about it a lot, but I totally agree with you, Jay.
I really wish bitcoin and "crypto" could be separated into 2 distinct entities.
As long as shitcoins exist, I'm not sure that can ever happen.
 I've said this before and I'll say it again. Bitcoin and shitcoins are, for better or worse (mostly worst)
joined at the hip. Trading, mining etc.   I would not be "mining" bitcoin on my gpus , were it not for a certain crypto shitcoin, not to be mentioned.
I don't have a solution. I wish I did. That is all.

Maybe there are times when either I misspeak or I fail to adequately communicate my intended message?

For sure, through the years, you (sirazimuth) should have noticed a kind of pattern in which it should appear that I am less bothered by the actual existence of crypto currencies or that such term is used from time to time.   I don't even presume a world in which shitcoins do not exist.. so in that regard, I am in agreement with your assertion that they are likely always going to play some kind of a role that may be confused for bitcoin roles - nonetheless that the fact that shitcoins are always likely to exist does not justify speaking in goobledy-gook speaking ways about them and verbally/conceptually mixing them up with our savior, king daddy.

I might be inaccurate in my own self-assessment, but it seems to me that I tend to be more bothered by ambiguities and generalities in the way subjects related to bitcoin are discussed, especially if some of us might be trying to figure if some other topic might be being discussed or is the discussed subject matter somehow related to bitcoin.

I am not going to want to allow for excuses of speakers who try to get out of clearly presenting ideas merely because "everyone else is" talking that way and/or using those kinds of vague references.  

In my thinking, even billionaires should not be allowed to get away with such vagueness in their references... but still it seems that it would likely not be easy to coral the language that billionaires choose to use.  They are likely constantly surrounded by a lot of yes men.

When a billionaire speaks with such vagueness, I tend to speculate that such billionaire may well be engaging in such obscure speech practices on purpose.. How do you get to be a billionaire without knowing how to speak clearly about potentially complicated or BIG picture things?  

I suppose that it is possible that some of the billionaires do not really know the difference between bitcoin and crypto or maybe they are being vague because they have not exactly solidified their plans in respect to bitcoin/crypto, yet?  Give the poor fellas some benefit of the doubt, right?

Maybe another reason that I get frustrated by vagueness is that it quite likely causes confusion with normies and/or misleads a large number of normies.. and sure, we cannot necessarily expect billionaires to want to communicate clearly to normies, right?   Blame the billionaire or blame the person doing the interview for failing to seek clarifications.  The interviewer might be too star struck to interrupt or seek clarification or even worried that they might offend or lose access to such billionaire.  

.....price will go way over 100K.

Its a given that bitcoin will breech 100K in the future. Maybe even before I'm six feet under (or more likely, reduced to a fine ash in the cremo)

That's pretty vague.

Any of us could keel over at any minute.

At least Philip gave us an outline of probabilities regarding the number of years that he might have left.

But that's really not saying a lot, when a loaf of bread will be $25... or more importantly, a 6pak of Bud Light swill will be $74.99...

Yeah, of course, we know that the purchasing power of the dollar is going to continue to devalue, and that's why it is better to attempt to be more concrete in terms of pegging the matter (get your mind out of the gutter).... that is perhaps talking in terms of todays dollars..

For sure, nothing is exactly guaranteed, and bitcoin itself remains a bit of a moving target.. but I still think that it would be fair to suggest that bitcoin had around a $9k value for 2018 through 2020 (even though we know that in reality we could have gotten BTC for quite a bit lower prices during that time), but even if we are generous and we suggest that our jumping off  BTC price was around $9k for that period.  We still know that we are in a way better place than anyone else by having had accumulated BTC and held BTC.. and hopefully we I did not have to spend too much of it in the past couple of years.. so our purchasing power has somewhat been preserved during that time...

Some folks in equities might have done o.k in terms of possibly maintaining or not losing too much of their purchasing power (but even that is a bit questionable, now)... and those in pure cash got really clobbered during that time, even if they were with the strongest of the fiats (the dollar)..  

The closest comparison might have been real property.. but surely property does not tend to be very liquid and it surely has a lot of possible expenses to maintain it, too.

I suppose in the end, I am not really arguing with you.. just want to supplement what you said, even while tempted to slap you just for (funzies and) your seemingly ongoingly intentional flippantness.    Cheesy  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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