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[tarmi]

If I had to guess, then I would guess that you bought from the top and that is the reason why you are so nervous at the moment..

Im holding from $100 average. never bought above 600. Im really not nervous at all. but perhaps a little irritable.....

tell us more.


Name:   chessnut
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Date Registered:   January 14, 2014, 05:28:31 AM

[JayJuanGee]

billyjoeallen gone bearish

isn't this a strong buy signal?

Waffles, waffles.... Buy waffles

So I'm a contra-indicator now, huh? If I'm so stupid, then why do I have so much money and coins to trade now?

If you want my coins, just bid up the price a little higher. If you want my cash, you'll have to drive the price down until I feel like maybe maybe buying back. I hope there's a rally because I'll be partying with bull money if there is. Being a reckless bull for so long has given me a monster pile of coins to dump on your heads.

Disrespect me at your pleasure or peril. The market always has the last word.

Those previous comments by Bitcoinsrus does NOT seem to be disrespectful, but instead merely an observation of your change in your apparent position.  Also, I do NOT perceive things like this thread to be a competition, even though others may consider it to be such... and that is why, when you perceive threads like this as a means to compete and to deceive people, then you are resorting to self-ish behavior...

Surely I am going to take information on this thread with a grain of salt, but my intention is to share information  for the benefit of everyone.. and to the extent that I may spin or NOT disclose my exact strategy will NOT be some major push to trick people into buying or selling in order to favor me or to fulfill some position that I have that I want filled.

We each have our ways... so to each his/her own in that regard.

Selfish behavior would be telling people what they want to hear so that I could be more popular. I'm doing the opposite. It's also in my financial best interest to say the opposite of what I'm saying.  I may  be wrong, but I'm not being deceptive, you piece of shit.

O.K.  Maybe I overstated the case, but why do you need to resort to name calling?  I'm just making an observation, and surely I could be wrong in my observation and noticing your seemingly extreme statements to push one way and then to push another way...... .. I am NOT engaging in such observation about your seeming to switch your position to undermine you or to bad mouth you... it just seems to be lacking some objective analysis... especially when you are saying let's all do this in order to save BTC from a downward spiral.. it just seems to be much too much to be trying to persuade people to act in concert, when it may NOT be a good idea for them... .. and it may NOT even seem to be a convincing logical choice to "save" bitcoin...   

[jonoiv]

anyone got any credible stats on percentage of trades by bots?

[podyx]

here what it looks like now.  as you can see it broke out a little, but lets see where it is in 80 mins.

So have you gone bullish yet?

[jonoiv]

here what it looks like now.  as you can see it broke out a little, but lets see where it is in 80 mins.

So have you gone bullish yet?

I got the time mixed up.

1 more hour yet. then Im sure the price will show me the way to go

[JayJuanGee]

Bull for now. If we break 400, I'm out.

NOT a very hardy bull... that's for sure.  Maybe a fair weather bull?

[podyx]

alright

[chessnut]

I think 10million is a very small amount of money. the shorts alone could pull that off.
point taken. we need new fiat to sustain a rally.
I have been following developments of bitcoin start ups. Europe has recently gained easy access to bitcoins, as well as Britain, from exchanges with reliable fire wire services for instant deposit/withdrawal. new exchanges are opening every week and they are getting better. this opens the doors to a lot of fiat, even more than china provided in the last bubble, because awareness is far greater now. Exchanges in America are coming soon. I have not heard this point discussed often, but it is HUGE.
infrastructure for retailers and customers is still growing at record pace. this is very attractive to large investors.
But the problem is china is genuine, as far as I can tell. bitcoins are leaving china. If we assume that china was the force behind the last great rally, then we must assume that new fiat is pouring in to hold the market up this high. the news has been very bad in the last week, but every legitimate story can manage to push down only $20-40 lower than the previous low. it is stubborn. Every night when the chinese go to sleep, the market rallies with unexplained force. it's the new money trickling in.

[JayJuanGee]

to be honest, I am at a point where I am not sure anymore if to be a bull or a bear.... the market is just confusing me, the thin order book and the tiny actions going on makes the possibility of going up or going down almost the same... so if you know more beat me to it.

Do you try project your expectations onto the market with realistic time frames and price action?
When the market drags on for months, and mood is negative we tend to change our expectations. But if you could have watched this bubble pop in fast forward, would you be surprised by anything yet? not me. This is going to the game plan 100%.

I am just so uber bullish right now. Everything is going just fine.

.... the bottom is a miserable time..... of coarse the order book will be thin and price will be stagnant.

Also, we may have to stay at this lower price range for several weeks before the large majority of weaker hands are bled out...  

I can stick it out for a year or two if needed at this price range or even lower.. so long as the BTC fundamentals remain in a similar ballpark.  Certainly, that would be a worst case scenario.. and I expect the prices to go up much sooner.. maybe no later than a month.

[billyjoeallen]

O.K.  Maybe I overstated the case, but why do you need to resort to name calling?  I'm just making an observation, and surely I could be wrong in my observation and noticing your seemingly extreme statements to push one way and then to push another way...... .. I am NOT engaging in such observation about your seeming to switch your position to undermine you or to bad mouth you... it just seems to be lacking some objective analysis... especially when you are saying let's all do this in order to save BTC from a downward spiral.. it just seems to be much too much to be trying to persuade people to act in concert, when it may NOT be a good idea for them... .. and it may NOT even seem to be a convincing logical choice to "save" bitcoin...  

Bitcoin doesn't need saving and it would be incredible hubris for to think I was even capable of doing so anyway. I was trying to only save the people reading this thread some money, and I resent you questioning my motives. You should know me better by now. I'm not some noob troll.

Doesn't mean I'm not wrong. All that people were saying about relative market caps is true. I just want people to understand the risks involved.

[MinermanNC]

I think 10million is a very small amount of money. the shorts alone could pull that off.
point taken. we need new fiat to sustain a rally.
I have been following developments of bitcoin start ups. Europe has recently gained easy access to bitcoins, as well as Britain, from exchanges with reliable fire wire services for instant deposit/withdrawal. new exchanges are opening every week and they are getting better. this opens the doors to a lot of fiat, even more than china provided in the last bubble, because awareness is far greater now. Exchanges in America are coming soon. I have not heard this point discussed often, but it is HUGE.
infrastructure for retailers and customers is still growing at record pace. this is very attractive to large investors.
But the problem is china is genuine, as far as I can tell. bitcoins are leaving china. If we assume that china was the force behind the last great rally, then we must assume that new fiat is pouring in to hold the market up this high. the news has been very bad in the last week, but every legitimate story can manage to push down only $20-40 lower than the previous low. it is stubborn. Every night when the chinese go to sleep, the market rallies with unexplained force. it's the new money trickling in.

I tend to agree with all of that, especially the new fiat from the rapidly growing market. Well put. A very nice synopsis of how and where we are right now...  

[JayJuanGee]

Yes, I'm clearly bonkers.

When you were an überbull, you were outspoken, brash, opinionated, politically incorrect in a charmingly egotistical way.  As bear, you're positively pre-menstrual.

Maybe he lost his private keys to his bitcointalk password.. and his account has been taken over by an alien?

[JayJuanGee]

Dudes, no offence and all.. but...
could you just for one day.. maybe confess just to yourself.. that drawing these little lines on these littles graphs is just a method to justify your gambling problems?

I dont think you understand our objectives.

any old pumpkin head can see bitcoin is a good risk investment. but if you want to pay double the fair price...... go ahead! TA is risk management no more.
 
DONT come to a speculation forum and make fun of the TA.

nah, dude, bitcoin is currently an high rish, low reward investment
alts are interesting though

I'm not making fun of you guys.. just try to relax.. you are so serious about subjects that shouldn't be taken serious at all

Yes, pumpkin... some of us have already figured out NOT to take you seriously.. b/c you are posting mostly crap.. so far.. whether that makes us want to join in on your making fun of us, I doubt it. 

Few people like to laugh when they are being poked at.

[nanobrain]

If I had to guess, then I would guess that you bought from the top and that is the reason why you are so nervous at the moment..

Im holding from $100 average. never bought above 600. Im really not nervous at all. but perhaps a little irritable.....

tell us more.


Name:   chessnut
Posts:   1113
Activity:   98
Position:   Member
Date Registered:   January 14, 2014, 05:28:31 AM

Whoa..that's more than 14 posts a day....that explains why a lot of pages are just him and @JJG swapping predictions that don't happen.  Shroomskit used to keep these types in order but he seems quite sad from what I can tell...his obsession with sheep seems to have become quite an issue.

@Aminorex - so the casual sexism still prevails - I don't think BobbySue could handle a period really, he seems to squeal pretty easy.

[billyjoeallen]

Rooskies are buying their asses off on BTCe

EDIT: Now the Chinese are piling on too. Keep going, you wonderful Asian Suckers. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.

[nanobrain]

Dudes, no offence and all.. but...
could you just for one day.. maybe confess just to yourself.. that drawing these little lines on these littles graphs is just a method to justify your gambling problems?

I dont think you understand our objectives.

any old pumpkin head can see bitcoin is a good risk investment. but if you want to pay double the fair price...... go ahead! TA is risk management no more.
 
DONT come to a speculation forum and make fun of the TA.

nah, dude, bitcoin is currently an high rish, low reward investment
alts are interesting though

I'm not making fun of you guys.. just try to relax.. you are so serious about subjects that shouldn't be taken serious at all

Yes, pumpkin... some of us have already figured out NOT to take you seriously.. b/c you are posting mostly crap.. so far.. whether that makes us want to join in on your making fun of us, I doubt it.  

Few people like to laugh when they are being poked at.

That's the other thing I'm really noticing catching up....everyone's a lot less thick skinned.
The result of a bear market?

[MinermanNC]

Gentlemen...

Do we have takeoff?

edit: Oh my god... I think it actually is happening

Cautiously optimistic here  


EDIT: but aren't they still asleep in china? lol

[thefunkybits]

fuck yeaaah...really wanna see this go off. Buyng back in at a loss has never been so satisfying

[Mervyn_Pumpkinhead]

Dudes, no offence and all.. but...
could you just for one day.. maybe confess just to yourself.. that drawing these little lines on these littles graphs is just a method to justify your gambling problems?

I dont think you understand our objectives.

any old pumpkin head can see bitcoin is a good risk investment. but if you want to pay double the fair price...... go ahead! TA is risk management no more.
 
DONT come to a speculation forum and make fun of the TA.

nah, dude, bitcoin is currently an high rish, low reward investment
alts are interesting though

I'm not making fun of you guys.. just try to relax.. you are so serious about subjects that shouldn't be taken serious at all

Yes, pumpkin... some of us have already figured out NOT to take you seriously.. b/c you are posting mostly crap.. so far.. whether that makes us want to join in on your making fun of us, I doubt it. 

Few people like to laugh when they are being poked at.

Dude, if you get this emotional about money, then you really shouldn't be involved with crypto gambling. Just take a deep breath and think on what would MacGyver do.
I've had too much vodka today, so much sleep and plenty of r&r needed for the whole weekend. Take care, and never forget to stop and smell the roses!

[nanobrain]

Rooskies are buying their asses off on BTCe

EDIT: Now the Chinese are piling on too. Keep going, you wonderful Asian Suckers. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes.

400 coins in half an hour is 'buying their asses off'?
things have changed.

but bobbysue, I can send you some shoes if needs be