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[BBmodBB]

back in the game! =)

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[chessnut]

I once left my motorcycle outside downtown with the ignition hotwired.  It wasnt there when I came back.  I don't blame the city. I don't defame it or consider its people more or less criminal than those of other cities.

Come on, it was not that petty vandalism of Wikipedia that gave me that negative view of the bitcoin "ecosystem".  It is the bulk of what I have read over these four months, especially the hype coming from the "great names". 

Bitcoin was crippled by two great disasters: first, its adoption by "libertarians", and, second, the blooming of the Chinese market.  These developments turned what could have been a great e-commerce invention into the instrument of a legion of skimmers, scammers, and common criminals.  Will the "pure" bitcoiners (if there are any left) have the will and power to get rid of those parasites, before they kill the idea?  I don't see that happening.

'parasites' will save bitcoin if all else fails. one day we may be criminals for using bitcoin, but that wont kill bitcoin, or it wont stop bitcoin 2.0. What is a 'pure' bitcoiner?

[nanobrain]

I do recall that one of the posts you put in some words of attribution for someone... and probably in that case, it would have been good to note it (or maybe say it in small type ... ).. whatever, it was kind of a joke or a way to dig in at someone in a strategic way... .. 

oh yeah, that one... was more of a joke but turns out she was very annoyed at having her character defiled on a public site.... funny that.

Gosh...I'm reminded of an Oscar Wilde quote.

Just to clarify. 

Chessnut was compelled to delete a post in which he had falsely created a post by myself; he then tried to use that forged post to coerce me, thus revealing his true character.  Here is a young boy who desperately needs the attention and validation of an internet forum: when he is caught out by his own words he resorts to personal attacks and then to manipulating posts in the last resort to 'win' an argument.

I have no 'reputation' or 'character' to be 'defiled' (I wonder if Chessnut means the real meaning of the word, probably not), these are constructs he places a value upon: yet he seeks to belittle new users here at every opportunity often under the guise of 'help'. 

He is a bully and while the males ignore the yelping puppy, he is irate to distraction that a woman twice his age and more berates his behaviour.

[octaft]

I do recall that one of the posts you put in some words of attribution for someone... and probably in that case, it would have been good to note it (or maybe say it in small type ... ).. whatever, it was kind of a joke or a way to dig in at someone in a strategic way... .. 

oh yeah, that one... was more of a joke but turns out she was very annoyed at having her character defiled on a public site.... funny that.

Gosh...I'm reminded of an Oscar Wilde quote.

Just to clarify. 

Chessnut was compelled to delete a post in which he had falsely created a post by myself; he then tried to use that forged post to coerce me, thus revealing his true character.  Here is a young boy who desperately needs the attention and validation of an internet forum: when he is caught out by his own words he resorts to personal attacks and then to manipulating posts in the last resort to 'win' an argument.

I have no 'reputation' or 'character' to be 'defiled' (I wonder if Chessnut means the real meaning of the word, probably not), these are constructs he places a value upon: yet he seeks to belittle new users here at every opportunity often under the guise of 'help'. 

He is a bully and while the males ignore the yelping puppy, he is irate to distraction that a woman twice his age and more berates his behaviour.

What did the falsely created post say?

[billyjoeallen]

I once left my motorcycle outside downtown with the ignition hotwired.  It wasnt there when I came back.  I don't blame the city. I don't defame it or consider its people more or less criminal than those of other cities.

Come on, it was not that petty vandalism of Wikipedia that gave me that negative view of the bitcoin "ecosystem".  It is the bulk of what I have read over these four months, especially the hype coming from the "great names". 

Bitcoin was crippled by two great disasters: first, its adoption by "libertarians", and, second, the blooming of the Chinese market.  These developments turned what could have been a great e-commerce invention into the instrument of a legion of skimmers, scammers, and common criminals.  Will the "pure" bitcoiners (if there are any left) have the will and power to get rid of those parasites, before they kill the idea?  I don't see that happening.

So let me get this straight: Bitcoin was crippled by smart people spotting the value of it before you? Libertarians and Chinese have average I.Q.s substantially higher than Latin Americans, Buddy. It doesn't mean we always use those brains wisely and we may be naive to think others generally play fair, but that's projection. It's because we do play fair. My money is at the risk of the market and yours is guarded by Statist thugs. You have no problem with government jackboots as long as they are under your control. It's not the Chinese involvement that's crippling Bitcoin right now. It's the PBoC's involvement. 

Everyone knows Sao Paulo is a shithole.  Coming from your perspective, You may think the whole world is a shithole too. It's not. We will absorb the Chinese dump if it happens at some price level. I don't know what that level is and I don't have to. It will likely take months or years to consolidate before the next rally and that's fine too.

Howz the Real doing, Prof? Ya got great confidence in your national currency? I read the story about how it was created. I couldn't believe Brazilians were that stupid. Then I started reading your posts. You rail against private sector scammers and ignore the greatest scammers of all: The governments of the world. Then you say "Yes, the government has problems, but it would be so much better if only people like me were in charge."  That would be a disaster. I'm comforted by the fact that the sociopaths who run the governments would never let that happen. 

You don't know shit about economics. You don't even think there is anything to know. You're not even coherent enough to be wrong. Incentives work. Can you get that into your thick bald head? This will blow over. It's going to suck in the meantime, but at least I won't have to wait it out in a suburb of a giant slum that smells like a sewer.

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[octaft]

I once left my motorcycle outside downtown with the ignition hotwired.  It wasnt there when I came back.  I don't blame the city. I don't defame it or consider its people more or less criminal than those of other cities.

Come on, it was not that petty vandalism of Wikipedia that gave me that negative view of the bitcoin "ecosystem".  It is the bulk of what I have read over these four months, especially the hype coming from the "great names". 

Bitcoin was crippled by two great disasters: first, its adoption by "libertarians", and, second, the blooming of the Chinese market.  These developments turned what could have been a great e-commerce invention into the instrument of a legion of skimmers, scammers, and common criminals.  Will the "pure" bitcoiners (if there are any left) have the will and power to get rid of those parasites, before they kill the idea?  I don't see that happening.

So let me get this straight: Bitcoin was crippled by smart people spotting the value of it before you? Libertarians and Chinese have average I.Q.s substantially higher than Latin Americans, Buddy. It doesn't mean we always use those brains wisely and we may be naive to think others generally play fair, but that's projection. It's because we do play fair. My money is at the risk of the market and yours is guarded by Statist thugs. You have no problem with government jackboots as long as they are under your control. It's not the Chinese involvement that's crippling Bitcoin right now. It's the PBoC's involvement. 

Everyone knows Sao Paulo is a shithole.  Coming from your perspective, You may think the whole world is a shithole too. It's not. We will absorb the Chinese dump if it happens at some price level. I don't know what that level is and I don't have to. It will likely take months or years to consolidate before the next rally and that's fine too.

Howz the Real doing, Prof? Ya got great confidence in your national currency? I read the story about how it was created. I couldn't believe Brazilians were that stupid. Then I started reading your posts. You rail against private sector scammers and ignore the greatest scammers of all: The governments of the world. Then you say "Yes, the government has problems, but it would be so much better if only people like me were in charge."  That would be a disaster. I'm comforted by the fact that the sociopaths who run the governments would never let that happen. 

You don't know shit about economics. You don't even think there is anything to know. You're not even coherent enough to be wrong. Incentives work. Can you get that into your thick bald head? This will blow over. It's going to suck in the meantime, but at least I won't have to wait it out in a suburb of a giant slum that smells like a sewer.

Honestly, you make yourself look stupid to anyone who isn't.

[dropt]

Bitcoin was crippled by two great disasters: first, its adoption by "libertarians"...

That's rich.  I am pretty sure they're the ones that carried Bitcoin on their backs through the early years.  Without them, their exuberance and relentless dedication Bitcoin would have likely failed a long time ago.

But I'm sure all these opinions of yours are easy to come by when you've only been an active part for (what seems) to be five months.

[aminorex]

You rail against private sector scammers and ignore the greatest scammers of all: The governments of the world. Then you say "Yes, the government has problems, but it would be so much better if only people like me were in charge."  That would be a disaster. I'm comforted by the fact that the sociopaths who run the governments would never let that happen. 

Honestly, you make yourself look stupid to anyone who isn't.

I won't address the snipped bits, but I thought that little gem quoted above cut through a lot of crap with the rhetorical poise and elegance of a skilled swordsman.  I could use more stupid like that.

[dropt]

Honestly, you make yourself look stupid to anyone who isn't.

Care to qualify your opinion?  Surely with all your intelligence you have something more to say than that.

[octaft]

You rail against private sector scammers and ignore the greatest scammers of all: The governments of the world. Then you say "Yes, the government has problems, but it would be so much better if only people like me were in charge."  That would be a disaster. I'm comforted by the fact that the sociopaths who run the governments would never let that happen.  

Honestly, you make yourself look stupid to anyone who isn't.

I won't address the snipped bits, but I thought that little gem quoted above cut through a lot of crap with the rhetorical poise and elegance of a skilled swordsman.  I could use more stupid like that.

So you'll ignore the 70% racism and IQ bullshit (IQ is ironically a very dumb way to measure intelligence) and pick out what you like, and use that to defend him? Oh, but you won't "address the snipped bits," because there is no way you could defend him on that.

The guy is a racist, sexist, raving lunatic. Nobody needs more stupid like that.

[spooderman]

train pic

[solex]

train pic

bears getting blowtorched!

[derpinheimer]

The hell is going on? Rally because rally or is there news???

[hyphymikey]

choo choo testing

[EuroTrash]

... The news being?

[aminorex]

So you'll ignore the 70% racism and IQ bullshit (IQ is ironically a very dumb way to measure intelligence) and pick out what you like, and use that to defend him? The guy is a racist, sexist, raving lunatic.

I actually find BJA pretty offensive.  Sometimes I jerk my knee a bit too.  But the truths he elucidates in the process - often defects of my own thought derived from cohort common knowledge - are well worth the nose holding required to keep tears out of my eyes long enough to see them.

Nobody needs more stupid like that.

Only if they are deluded by political correctness.  But by then its probably too late, and the reflexive filters will render the subject incorrigible.  At a guess, I estimate that your anti-racism is one born in the ghettos of white privilege.  If so, you will likely see racism where your culture group has defined it to be acceptable to see racism, and will be completely blind to the patronizing racism that pervades said culture.  Why is racism even a dirty word?  Fear of other.  Fear is a mind killer.

And that (the confusion deriving from fear) brings us back on-topic of speculation.

[seleme]

... The news being?

OKCOin announced they are investing in ATM production or something like that.

Damn these Chinese bastards are so good in taking the price wherever they want it.

Closed shorts for 200$ profit minutes before just to open another after that and lose all that profit when this rise happened, lol

[spooderman]

racism = thought crime