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April 15, 2014, 12:50:08 PM

I doubt it will test 400 again without news from our China friends. Going to 460'ish tho is very likely.
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April 15, 2014, 12:51:28 PM

You can't have winners without losers...

Only true in a zero-sum game.  More generally, you can't have competition without relative losers.
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April 15, 2014, 12:51:49 PM

Good buy opportunity right here
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April 15, 2014, 12:52:26 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/15/us-cocacola-results-idUSBREA3E0R220140415

First quarter Coca-Cola sales up 12% in China.

Fishing pole sales rising, also.

PBOC finding out what everybody else knew - bitcoin is nothing but hookers and coke.

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April 15, 2014, 12:57:21 PM

If I was speculating, I would sell now. It can go as low as 405, likely at least 460.

Why?
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April 15, 2014, 01:00:23 PM


Explanation
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April 15, 2014, 01:00:44 PM

I doubt it will test 400 again without news from our China friends. Going to 460'ish tho is very likely.

I sure don't need any enemy with these kind of friends.
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April 15, 2014, 01:03:15 PM

it is just manipulation with price the same as 2.mart 2014 year. (blue zone --- red zone - blue zone --- red zone)

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April 15, 2014, 01:05:41 PM

What your comments suggest to me, Jorge, is that my initial reading of the December announcement was correct, and the consistent content of all the official statements of the PBoC confirm, that there is no prohibition on banking relationships with exchanges in China.  The restriction is on banks taking on exposure to BTC, meaning they cannot have risk positions in BTC, nor can they denominate accounts in BTC.

As all the fear mongering is rendered foolish
Well, there have been at least four or five instances of banks closing the exchange accounts to deposits, confirmed by the exchanges themselves on their websites.

Curiously, Huobi had a note dated April 11 on their website reporting the account closures, but they seem to have pulled it. The newest note there is dated April 10.  They seem to be revamping their home page, and even the link to the latter seems to be gone.

EDIT: the note is still there: http://www.huobi.com/news/index.php?a=show_notice&id=308

It may be that the banks were over-reacting to some PBoC vague note, or to the Caixin article itself (although some of the closures were communicated to the exchanges well after the article came out).  Or it may be that the exchanges
managed to convice some of the other banks.

One important point in Huobi's April 11 note, IMHO, was a paragraph which I understood as follows: "We believe that the goal of the PBoC's 'Strengtening the December decrees' circular was to combat money laudering and other crimes.  We have done a lot in this regard and we are ready to cooperate with the authorities, hoping that we can reach a compromise that will let us keep the bank path open."  Again. this makes me belive that the 'Strenghtening'  circular saw by Caixin was not a PBoC decision but came from law enforcement and national security agencies.

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我们认为,去年央行关于比特币的289文,是出于反洗钱和维护金融系统安全的考虑,更是对比特币行业在中国的发展提供了一个基础的政策方向和框架,火币网对此表示支持并且坚决执行相关规定。目前的交易方式是比较有利于相关部门监管的,因为包括火币网在内的几个大的交易平台在去年12月就启用了实名认证、资金来源检查、大宗可疑交易上报等机制。如果合法合规经营的在线交易平台停止服务,比特币交易将分流到无法监测的线下,让监管变得更加困难。

we believe the central bank last year, about 289 text bitcoin is considered for anti-money laundering and maintaining the security of the financial system , it is the Bitcoin industry development in China provides a basis for policy direction and framework , fire coins Network expressed strong support for and implementation of the relevant provisions . Current trading is more conducive to the relevant regulatory authorities , including the fire because the network , including several large currency trading platform in December last year on the real-name authentication , check the source of funds , the bulk of suspicious transactions reporting mechanisms enabled. If legal compliance online trading platform operated to stop the service , Bitcoin transactions will be diverted to the next line can not be monitored , so that regulation becomes more difficult.

the result may be that every auntie and grandmother in China buys a bitcoin for the baby.  About 200 million out of perhaps 200,000 floating bitcoin.

The July bubble may be a second China bubble.

The December bubble will be the ETP bubble, and much larger.
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April 15, 2014, 01:07:35 PM

If I was speculating, I would sell now. It can go as low as 405, likely at least 460.

So you've come out of your own thread to do some manipulating here.
The sad part is some noobs here will actually fall for it. They don't realize what a mentally ill narcissistic manipulating troll you are.
For the new guys here any advice this looney offers is for his own gains. I can guarantee you that.
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April 15, 2014, 01:08:14 PM

You can rest assured there will be brand new chinese bear ammo when it comes time to cross back into the bear zone.

Those who think that because they made it to April 15th so now they are off scot free are in for a mean suprise.
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April 15, 2014, 01:09:11 PM

If I was speculating, I would sell now. It can go as low as 405, likely at least 460.

Why?

The price goes up and down in waves. Now we went up +50% in short time, so with no particular reason it can go down 10-20%. "If I was speculating" means that I don't try to capture this small waves usually, because the max bet is so small, and gain is so small, and prob of success is not as high as with capturing only the megawaves.
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April 15, 2014, 01:09:27 PM

What's hilarious is we keep having the same discussion over and over again. Several months ago people were saying oh no, China is banning bitcoin! But they didn't, they just told banks not to invest in it and not to denominate peoples' accounts in it as has been stated. Honestly I think that was a smart move given the volatility at this time. They don't want to be the victim of the next huge bubble like the US housing crisis.
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April 15, 2014, 01:10:04 PM



My bear-masked estimates are

LET'S GIVE PROBABILITIES TO THE FOLLOWING EVENTS

e) In 2014, price will visit above 500 = 30%

/LET'S GIVE PROBABILITIES TO THE FOLLOWING EVENTS

Several hours later, the whole forum salute the über-clown Jorge Stolfi as the new Fail-Troll leader.
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April 15, 2014, 01:13:06 PM

If I was speculating, I would sell now. It can go as low as 405, likely at least 460.

So you've come out of your own thread to do some manipulating here.
The sad part is some noobs here will actually fall for it. They don't realize what a mentally ill narcissistic manipulating troll you are.
For the new guys here any advice this looney offers is for his own gains. I can guarantee you that.

+1 I am starting to suspect the same thing to be honest, was intrigued by his commentary at first but totally see the narcissistic tendency that you are referring to.
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April 15, 2014, 01:15:20 PM

If I was speculating, I would sell now. It can go as low as 405, likely at least 460.

So you've come out of your own thread to do some manipulating here.
The sad part is some noobs here will actually fall for it. They don't realize what a mentally ill narcissistic manipulating troll you are.
For the new guys here any advice this looney offers is for his own gains. I can guarantee you that.

+1 I am starting to suspect the same thing to be honest, was intrigued by his commentary at first but totally see the narcissistic tendency that you are referring to.

And you dont get that feeling when reading Shroomskit replies?
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April 15, 2014, 01:17:45 PM

If I was speculating, I would sell now. It can go as low as 405, likely at least 460.

So you've come out of your own thread to do some manipulating here.
The sad part is some noobs here will actually fall for it. They don't realize what a mentally ill narcissistic manipulating troll you are.
For the new guys here any advice this looney offers is for his own gains. I can guarantee you that.

+1 I am starting to suspect the same thing to be honest, was intrigued by his commentary at first but totally see the narcissistic tendency that you are referring to.

And you dont get that feeling when reading Shroomskit replies?

The narcissism is kinda in your face when one refers to themselves as "Mighty !!"
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April 15, 2014, 01:22:18 PM

And you dont get that feeling when reading Shroomskit replies?

Narcissism requires self-awareness.  I'm pretty sure Shroomsy put Shroomskit on ignore loooong ago.
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