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September 19, 2023, 08:48:00 PM
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Rumor Mill: Blackrock spot ETF granted preliminary approval to move forward

SEC staff has 20-ish more days to make a decision on Grayscale ruling. What are their options?

1. To appeal - they will get one more year to delay the inevitable - approving a spot ETF. SEC's arguments are well known and they will  not stand in any court.
2. To deny again Grayscale and to revoke futures ETF's on the grounds of suspected manipulations. But the futures ETF's will immediately sue SEC for unjust treatment and it is obvious that they will win.
3. To approve all ETF's at once, so that SEC won't lose another trial. SEC may also put some mild conditions as surveillance agreement for Grayscale, or an information agreement for all, which will give SEC more power to investigate fraud and manipulation.



LOL.
1 is actually two different options. They have two separate, but equally not viable ways to appeal (en-banc court, and supreme court).
2. They cannot do that, unless they can demonstrate a new thesis for this that is not "capricious", as the court defined their previous rejection.
3. Central scenario. Mid October most probable review.

There is also a 4th option..... SEC approves all the ETF, but Grayscale. (you read it here first).

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But no, Russell Brand is the problem.

As if no one knew Brand was a womaniser.

As if no women wanted to sleep with him, EXACTLY because he looked like a "bad boy".
Katy Perry in her Roar prime days could have had a million decent men lined up at her feet. But no, she had to have Brand.

As if Channel 4 didn't make money from Brand, and now is supposedly outraged at his behaviour in the hypocrite days. That channel should be shut down due to its disgusting schadenfreude. It is a far bigger problem than Brand!!

Russell Brand is willing to say the quiet parts out loud that the establishment hates.

He was hitting too close to the truth one too many times.

And his viewership is growing bigger and bigger by the day.

Surely he had to know that TPTB would not stand for his popularity very long and come after him eventually?

If you have a non-squeaky clean past, it doesn't take much for them to target you and shut you down. Just a little bit of dirt somewhere in your past will do it these days.

Side note: His YouTube channel still appears to be up. But I heard that he is getting de-monetized, or something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4nSjPdT788
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If you get a chance, watch that YT video... It popped up in my feed, Google must have heard me talking about Oppenheimer!

this was a good read.

https://restorationsystems.com/uncategorized/whoops-atomic-bomb-dropped-in-goldsboro-nc-swamp-neuse-huc-02/

Vertasiums vids usually drone on too much for me but i'll give it a try.
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How many Bitcoin I can buy with 5M USD?

At this particular moment, right around 182.68176836 BTC - give or take 10-100 million satoshis

wait, wait, wait..

We need to consider how fast you act - and assuming no fees. .

oh wait, wait, wait .. maybe with that no fee assumption I negated my own proclamations.. and we might have to give or take 300 million satoshis?


maybe we can try to presume a search for lower fees or even a pacing of the purchases could end up causing me to change my give or take to 1 billion satoshis..

so wait, wait, wait..


we probably have to give or take 1-2 billion satoshis depending on the definition of "buying now", and whether you are feeling lucky punk?

No slippage?
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Rumor Mill: Blackrock spot ETF granted preliminary approval to move forward

SEC staff has 20-ish more days to make a decision on Grayscale ruling. What are their options?

1. To appeal - they will get one more year to delay the inevitable - approving a spot ETF. SEC's arguments are well known and they will  not stand in any court.
2. To deny again Grayscale and to revoke futures ETF's on the grounds of suspected manipulations. But the futures ETF's will immediately sue SEC for unjust treatment and it is obvious that they will win.
3. To approve all ETF's at once, so that SEC won't lose another trial. SEC may also put some mild conditions as surveillance agreement for Grayscale, or an information agreement for all, which will give SEC more power to investigate fraud and manipulation.



LOL.
1 is actually two different options. They have two separate, but equally not viable ways to appeal (en-banc court, and supreme court).
2. They cannot do that, unless they can demonstrate a new thesis for this that is not "capricious", as the court defined their previous rejection.
3. Central scenario. Mid October most probable review.

There is also a 4th option..... SEC approves all the ETF, but Grayscale. (you read it here first).



I don't know about all that, but here is my opinion on the matter:

1. Approval of ETF right now is absolutely useless to anyone and would just result in a gigantic bart (up, flat, down) and nothing else.
2. Approval of ETF either shortly before halving when market would be bullish already or even after halving is much better and could result in a large sustainable gains.
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September 19, 2023, 10:11:07 PM

Any amount of time you spend thinking about this and any space that it occupies in your mind is entirely too much.
There's far worse injustices in the world taking place on an hourly basis. This one is just the manufactured newsbyte that is currently trending now.
I know you guys think you're making a point but all you're really doing is revealing who has been more successful at brainwashing you.

 Troons are an affront to God.

 They are desperately in need of psychiatric help, not coddling delusions.
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Rumor Mill: Blackrock spot ETF granted preliminary approval to move forward

SEC staff has 20-ish more days to make a decision on Grayscale ruling. What are their options?

1. To appeal - they will get one more year to delay the inevitable - approving a spot ETF. SEC's arguments are well known and they will  not stand in any court.
2. To deny again Grayscale and to revoke futures ETF's on the grounds of suspected manipulations. But the futures ETF's will immediately sue SEC for unjust treatment and it is obvious that they will win.
3. To approve all ETF's at once, so that SEC won't lose another trial. SEC may also put some mild conditions as surveillance agreement for Grayscale, or an information agreement for all, which will give SEC more power to investigate fraud and manipulation.



LOL.
1 is actually two different options. They have two separate, but equally not viable ways to appeal (en-banc court, and supreme court).
2. They cannot do that, unless they can demonstrate a new thesis for this that is not "capricious", as the court defined their previous rejection.
3. Central scenario. Mid October most probable review.

There is also a 4th option..... SEC approves all the ETF, but Grayscale. (you read it here first).



I don't know about all that, but here is my opinion on the matter:

1. Approval of ETF right now is absolutely useless to anyone and would just result in a gigantic bart (up, flat, down) and nothing else.
2. Approval of ETF either shortly before halving when market would be bullish already or even after halving is much better and could result in a large sustainable gains.
Totally timely agree with you its really believable for us newbies but being experienced you understand it easily thanks for helping us with such nice information.
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How many Bitcoin I can buy with 5M USD?
At this particular moment, right around 182.68176836 BTC - give or take 10-100 million satoshis

wait, wait, wait..

We need to consider how fast you act - and assuming no fees. .

oh wait, wait, wait .. maybe with that no fee assumption I negated my own proclamations.. and we might have to give or take 300 million satoshis?


maybe we can try to presume a search for lower fees or even a pacing of the purchases could end up causing me to change my give or take to 1 billion satoshis..

so wait, wait, wait..


we probably have to give or take 1-2 billion satoshis depending on the definition of "buying now", and whether you are feeling lucky punk?
No slippage?

I did not consider slippage.. and I am thinking there would NOT be very much slippage with that quantity of BTC.. but sure, maybe it depends on the exchange and how the order is executed... .

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I don't know about all that, but here is my opinion on the matter:

1. Approval of ETF right now is absolutely useless to anyone and would just result in a gigantic bart (up, flat, down) and nothing else.
2. Approval of ETF either shortly before halving when market would be bullish already or even after halving is much better and could result in a large sustainable gains.

In times like these, I sure wished someone would batslappening ujie-pooie for that nonsense... even if you might end up being correct with such negative-nancy prognosticatenings.

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Totally timely agree with you its really believable for us newbies but being experienced you understand it easily thanks for helping us with such nice information.

Oh gawd...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Who deserves a batslappening more, Pingrapole or Biodom?
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Rumor Mill: Blackrock spot ETF granted preliminary approval to move forward

SEC staff has 20-ish more days to make a decision on Grayscale ruling. What are their options?

1. To appeal - they will get one more year to delay the inevitable - approving a spot ETF. SEC's arguments are well known and they will  not stand in any court.
2. To deny again Grayscale and to revoke futures ETF's on the grounds of suspected manipulations. But the futures ETF's will immediately sue SEC for unjust treatment and it is obvious that they will win.
3. To approve all ETF's at once, so that SEC won't lose another trial. SEC may also put some mild conditions as surveillance agreement for Grayscale, or an information agreement for all, which will give SEC more power to investigate fraud and manipulation.



LOL.
1 is actually two different options. They have two separate, but equally not viable ways to appeal (en-banc court, and supreme court).
2. They cannot do that, unless they can demonstrate a new thesis for this that is not "capricious", as the court defined their previous rejection.
3. Central scenario. Mid October most probable review.

There is also a 4th option..... SEC approves all the ETF, but Grayscale. (you read it here first).



I don't know about all that, but here is my opinion on the matter:

1. Approval of ETF right now is absolutely useless to anyone and would just result in a gigantic bart (up, flat, down) and nothing else.
2. Approval of ETF either shortly before halving when market would be bullish already or even after halving is much better and could result in a large sustainable gains.

...OR, 3. TPTB (will) already have their bags ready and won't need to buy that much at those future prices... Hm. But then, they'd want to "sell high" anyway, so they'll need to pump it a bit in advance. Hm...

Too complicated.

TL;DR:

Too early, just Bart...
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1. Approval of ETF right now is absolutely useless to anyone and would just result in a gigantic bart (up, flat, down) and nothing else.
2. Approval of ETF either shortly before halving when market would be bullish already or even after halving is much better and could result in a large sustainable gains.

(... batslappening)

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Totally timely agree with you its really believable for us newbies but being experienced you understand it easily thanks for helping us with such nice information.

Oh gawd...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Who deserves a batslappening more, Pingrapole or Biodom?

I totally agree that even a newbie could humbly try to understand the deep truth uie-pooie be explainening us. Number two? Perhaps?
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1. Approval of ETF right now is absolutely useless to anyone and would just result in a gigantic bart (up, flat, down) and nothing else.
2. Approval of ETF either shortly before halving when market would be bullish already or even after halving is much better and could result in a large sustainable gains.

(... batslappening)

[edited out]
Totally timely agree with you its really believable for us newbies but being experienced you understand it easily thanks for helping us with such nice information.

Oh gawd...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Who deserves a batslappening more, Pingrapole or Biodom?

I totally agree that even a newbie could humbly try to understand the deep truth uie-pooie be explainening us. Number two? Perhaps?

Oh...sorry, but not sorry about how I see it.
Since I don't have to buy a tractor or a McLaren rn, I am optimizing for a long term...perhaps, perhaps?
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Any amount of time you spend thinking about this and any space that it occupies in your mind is entirely too much.
There's far worse injustices in the world taking place on an hourly basis. This one is just the manufactured newsbyte that is currently trending now.
I know you guys think you're making a point but all you're really doing is revealing who has been more successful at brainwashing you.

 Troons are an affront to God.

 They are desperately in need of psychiatric help, not coddling delusions.

what the fuck is a Troon ?




Oh Bruce Jenner ..  Actually he is something else last I read he kept his Johnson and his nut sack and still likes banging woman.  But he has a girlie face hair and tits.

You mean 12 year olds pre puberty mutilated by sicko doctors correct?
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……

Your 1950s wheelchair can't fly as high as my 1918 pogo stick.

Harrrumph. Kids nowadays.

Well ok but was your pogo stick gas powered?

https://youtu.be/Lutv8c2Kd6Y?si=nOlUqvBmqETuoVEg

I remember begging my folks for a pogo stick for Xmas as a 12 year old kid.
Finally got one. It took me about a week of frustration to get beyond
that 1st bounce. I finally sussed it though. That made my day.
I still have one hanging on the wall in the garage, (not gas powered)
and go for a bounce up the driveway once in awhile, just for a shiggle.
The neighbors must think I’m crazy. (I am actually)
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