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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 3 (3.8%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.3%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (2.5%)
$85K to $90K - 9 (11.3%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (15%)
$95K to $100K - 13 (16.3%)
>$100K - 40 (50%)
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September 28, 2023, 10:43:48 PM

Looks like Blackrock’s Bitcoin spot ETF application has been delayed and not approved. I don’t think many people thought it would be approve at this moment, but there you have it. Blackrock is going to have to let their application sit on the SEC’s desk like everyone else. I still think mass approval of spot ETFs will happen sometime in the next 6 months.

Well price needs to be over 45k by April 1 or a shit ton of miners will bailout.

An ETF could help fix that.

Interest looks to stay over 5% here in the states for at least 6 months.

The runup to the ½ ing should be fun.
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September 28, 2023, 10:52:39 PM
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It never fails.

Every time I have to sell a little bit to pay some bills, a nice big green candle happens a few days later.

You're welcome.

It is nice to see an unexpected jump in price here to over $27K. I think the downward pressures are subsiding a bit and the upward pressure is starting to build in the Bitcoin market.  

Cointelegraph had a nice article written about the latest pump happened https://cointelegraph.com/news/why-is-bitcoin-price-up-today

Let see if this institutional investors interest could able to create more hype since maybe they are now preparing for upcoming halving. Many expect to see a bull run and its up for us to find out if we can see more bigger pumps next year when halving season came.
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Bitcoin All time Comprehensive Chart  Smiley

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Most impeccable realistic scenario with $200k+ in 2025 and hitting $1 million in 2029.


@seth_fin

Not sure how he explains why the current graph seems to be bending downward (decrease in % increase each new cycle), but the future graph starts to bend upward.
In reality it is not clear what the future graph will show.
It could very well go supra-exponential, but I wouldn't count on it and made my peace with "just" 140-150K max this cycle, which is probably on the conservative side of most expectations.
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September 29, 2023, 01:34:35 AM
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Anyone have any hot bitcoin stock tips for tax leveraged accounts?
It looks like the mining company stocks have had a decent pullback.

Source: https://www.bitcoinmarketjournal.com/bitcoin-mining-stocks/

Or are we hoping for an ETF approval before tax day next year? 
Or is the no tax juice not worth the not your keys squeeze?

I cited your post for visibility. .

and your links were kind of screwed up too.. For the image, you were supposed to but the img tags in there.. and instead you had put url tags...

Anyhow all fixed right now.. and I don't personally have any kind of concern about some miners suffering or getting pushed out if the BTC prices don't go up as much as they are gambling on it.. and mining does seem to be a bit of a cut throat game in terms of some of the more efficient miners are going to be able to continue to operate and some less efficient miners may well get forced out... but who knows.. there have already been quite a bit of purging out of miners in the last correction, so it is difficult to determine if some miners might be gambling too much upon something sparking BTC price rises, such as a ETF approval.. but they do frequently seem to ramp up their hashpower prior to the halvening.. so we can see that they have a bit more than 6 months to continue mining with the current level of rewards.. .when the halvening kicks in and then some of the miners might shut down or slow down at that time on purpose because the reward has suddenly halved (this time around from 6.25 BTC to 3.125).
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September 29, 2023, 02:23:06 AM
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I wonder what sparked this pump. Any ideas?

It's just the beginning as we are about to enter the 4th Quarter, 2023 and the last quater of the year prior to bitcoins halving is always bullish.
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I've been reading comments from the other side on this and the argument seems to come down to Waffen-SS Galicia Division, or the SS 14th Waffen Division technically has not been found guilty of committing war crimes as a division during Nuremberg Trials (even though Waffen-SS as a whole clearly has). So there you have it, Russians are Nazi, real SS Nazis are not Nazis, War Is Peace. Freedom Is Slavery. Ignorance Is Strength.

Funny that Canuks are receiving flak for inviting and applauding a known Nazi, but no one is really questioning how a known Nazi managed to safely live in Canada all this time and how many other real SS Nazis Canada is still covering. Well, Poland seems to be catching up Poland seeks extradition of Ukrainian SS veteran who was applauded in Canada

What about Finns? Are they Nazi? Are they more Nazi than Russians, or are Russians more Nazi than Finns?
In 1939 Russians attacked Poland with Hitler's forces. 2 months later Russians, the strongest allies of Nazi Germany, attacked Finland and forced it to give away a part of their country.
Finland asked Germans for help, which they provided and attacked Russia. When Russia begun to get overwhelmed it asked Allies for help and changed sides from being a Nazi helper to a Nazi hater.

History is written by the victors, so now Russia is portrayed as the country that saved Europe from Germany, Poland is the country liberated by friendly Russian forces and Finland which only defended its borders is an ally of the Nazis.


I wonder what sparked this pump. Any ideas?

Gensler's poor performance in Congress? Cheesy

Well, no. Nazis are Nazis. Any attempt to equate someone else to Nazis just deludes what Nazis did.

"Russians, the strongest allies of Nazi Germany...Finland asked Germans for help, which they provided and attacked Russia", wait what  Huh so you're saying that Germans attacked their strongest ally just because Finns asked for it? I'm not even going to touch this one but you seemed to be all kinds of confused.
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September 29, 2023, 05:01:47 AM
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Most impeccable realistic scenario with $200k+ in 2025 and hitting $1 million in 2029.


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That comes off as a bit bearish and/or conservative... which is actually right around a 3x price increase from the previous cycle top, and then the following cycle to be around a 5x price increase...

Even though I don't like to get too wrapped up in tops, but something is wrong with such ..

or maybe those are 4.5x tops and just using 2017 to 2021.. top to top as being 4.5x and then saying we are 4.5x from here on out.. top to top.

That would then get us to similar numbers $69k x 4.5 = $310k-ish.. and then 4.5x more for the next cycle would bring us to $1.4 million.. but since we might want to tone it down a bit, we are going to just say $1 million.

I still don't like it, even if it might end up playing out in such a conservative and/or whimpy way.

There is no reason to get overly excited and to exaggerate what it expected, but at the same time, we can still put those projections in the location of strange and weird... and maybe overly attempting to predict around "round numbers."..

King daddy does not do round numbers.. even though people frequently make those kinds of claims about it supposedly getting stuck at round numbers.. which is just bullshit in the whole scheme of things.. even if there might be short-periods of seemingly stuckedness..

TLDR: (this one's for you Hueristic)  I don't like it.

Edit: After I wrote my whole post, and actually looking at the chart more closely, I see that it seems that I am mostly just quibbling with @Paashaas's interpretation of the chart rather than what the chart actually shows.. but since I already got it in my head that "I don't like it," I am sticking with my story.

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You truly are amazing, if you do say so ur lil selfie.

Well price needs to be over 45k by April 1 or a shit ton of miners will bailout.

That sounds like a mining death spiral.

I think that it is getting close to the time that "we" should panic.

OMG.

Most impeccable realistic scenario with $200k+ in 2025 and hitting $1 million in 2029.

@seth_fin
Not sure how he explains why the current graph seems to be bending downward (decrease in % increase each new cycle), but the future graph starts to bend upward.
In reality it is not clear what the future graph will show.
It could very well go supra-exponential, but I wouldn't count on it and made my peace with "just" 140-150K max this cycle, which is probably on the conservative side of most expectations.

That's what I was trying to say... but I just couldn't get it to come out of my lil mouthie.. (or is it mousie?).
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Well, no. Nazis are Nazis. Any attempt to equate someone else to Nazis just deludes what Nazis did.

Are you saying that a Nazi ally is not Nazi?

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You're confusing yourself. Where in that sentence do you see me saying that this was the only reason for the attack?
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