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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
$120K - 19 (17.6%)
$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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I ask this because when i talk with some friends about it they all said the same " its already above 100k if i buy now is not gonna be so much, its gonna be less than 0....." and other silly comments, and not matter what you say to them they think this bus is full and has gone, when this is clearly not the case.

Many people know Bitcoin only because of it's price movement and performance
They are not informed about the gradual decay of Fiat and the control Bitcoin could give.



There is no need to give up so easily.  Each of us likely has abilities to put our coins into private placement and also to figure out networks to transact directly with others rather than giving in to having to have our transactions channeled.  
You got me. I was kind of seeing the future as bleak.
It seems like the government are slowly influencing what people perceive Bitcoin as
Though not as an enemy but as an asset that grows like Gold
Hence why they push the narratives of bitcoin been digital gold.
I'm not surprised about this and even consider it smart but many don't even know or care why Bitcoin is Bitcoin.
I'm not against ETF and the opportunities it brought but I think it opened the government eyes to a way.
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Lets talk tariffs moonboys  Roll Eyes
It looks like a new buying opportunity is being created. Not only for Bitcoin, also for the stock market.
You buy stocks?
Taxes (or better: tax deductions) force me to invest in pension plans. Some diversification to reduce all-eggs-in-one-basket isn't bad.
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Below is the example of bitcoin gambling...big time..., but i wish him well.
This is just for observation, NOT to follow.

https://bitcoinist.com/crazy-bitcoin-bet-traders-1-billion-wager-says-btc-climbs-this-week/

Comment: geez...peeps are now wagering billions, even though it is a 40X bet or whatever.



He has increased it to $1.25Billion



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How many days can we within see at 70%?

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Significant breakout soon if we continue to follow Global M2.


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Global M2 Money Supply vs BTC

Global M2 just put in a new ATH!
BTC continues to follow like clockwork.

Social sentiment still somehow not convinced the recent BTC ATH breakout, along with re-test and holding it as support, is extremely bullish. Push it higher to rek the non-believers.

No other bitcoin metrics are overheated. CBBI is at 79. There is a lot more juice left in this tank. A lot.

https://x.com/colintcrypto/status/1926155339847565411
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Of course, another problem with selling too much too soon is that we would never really know for sure when to get back in, so then we spend a lot of time waiting for the price to drop to some kind of a target price, and maybe it drops and maybe it does not. If we are still accumulating bitcoin, we might end up waiting and waiting to buy, and instead of buying regularly, persistently, ongoingly, consistently and perhaps even aggressively, we are waiting.  Waiting is not a good strategy for anyone who is still in their accumulation stage and who has not yet reached a high enough status of accumulation or a status of overaccumulation.

Guys can do what they like, yet in bitcoin, we have a large number of bitcoiners (perhaps low coiners) who end up selling way too much of their bitcoin too soon, even when they should be accumulating bitcoin and they may well even consider themselves to be accumulating bitcoin, yet they are engaging in conduct to sell bitcoin with a purpose of buying more of it, which is contradictory and does not help to bring them to their goal of reaching overaccumulation status.. .which is a place that most of us should want to be, even if our numbers in regards to what is overaccumulation status are different.

Right now, I would  consider a person who has a goal to have an $80k per year income to be at his threshold of overaccumulation status with 16.837 BTC. Sure, if he has a few more bitcoin (maybe something like 20 BTC for cushion of 3.163 BTC) then that makes it easier to make sure that he does not ever dip below overaccumulation status in the event that he wants to enter into either price-based and/or time-based sustainable withdrawal.

I doubt that selling and/or trading as compared to strict regular, ongoing and perhaps even aggressive buying helps to assure getting to an overaccumulation status faster.. and from my perspective if a person sells bitcoin in order to try to buy back at a lower price, then he is likely taking chances (ie. gambling) in terms of screwing up his accumulation of BTC.  Sure, he might get lucky, but from my perspective it is not worth it to be taking those kinds of chances with an investment like bitcoin.

Having to wait for a specific price target can actually turn out to be a sort of suboptimal approach for those investors who are still very much in the accumulation stage of Bitcoin investment. Rather than finding themselves in a state/position of consistent and/aggressive buying or accumulation, they may eventually find themselves discouraged or paralyzed by FOMO on potential DIPs. This can potentially disrupt their progress towards reaching or achieving their long term financial goals.

And I totally agree with you on your opinion about individuals selling off their Bitcoins with intentions of rebuying (if there's ever a word like that) being contradictory, because with this approach, I don't think it's ever possible for investors with such mindset to reach a fuck you status or a state of overaccumulation, which of course should be the target of every true Bitcoin investor. But when investors prioritize consistent and/aggressive accumulation, they put themselves in a much better position to achieve this target in the long run.

When we talk about the concept of overaccumulation, I believe it varies from person to person, and this is mostly dependent on the investor's personal financial goals and of course, requirements. Having a cushion of Bitcoin may also have several benefits, such as providing the investor the peace of mind and flexibility when considering different types of sustainable withdrawal strategies. Some investors' ultimate goal in this area might be taking their Bitcoin holdings to a level where it'll be able to generate them a steady income, while for some, it could be just to store and preserve their wealth, so intentions and requirements do actually varies.

If we are to consider this from a strategic perspective, consistent accumulation of Bitcoin offers a much more security and can be considered to be a lot more effective than attempting to time the market through selling off a portion of their holdings and waiting for a DIP or potential buying opportunities which of course is more of a trader's mindset. The market is very volatile and it can be almost impossible to predict the market's next move, which make this approach a very risky one, so in order to mitigate (not completely eliminate though) it's best to completely avoid the uncertainty associated with attempting to time the market by engaging in consistent and/of aggressive accumulation.

Another thing is that, the approach of selling off Bitcoin with intentions of buying back at a much more lower price is purely gambling. It's not as if there aren't people who actually gets away with it, but you know, just like gambling, it's purely about luck, and if you're not lucky, then you end up losing and missing out on potential opportunities thereby defeating your aim and purpose for selling in the first place.
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