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[Biodom]

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I am largely just responding to the parathesis portion of your post.. Otherwise I largely agree with what seems to be your points.  Hahahahaha..

Tether hating seems to be in your username.

You maybe are coming off as one of those Tether haters, and aren't they labelled as "Tether denialists?" I am not claiming to be a Tether lover, but from my perspective Tether has always seem to defer to bitcoin and recognize bitcoin as the basis for their ability to exist, and surely the Tether deniers have been around since soon after Tether's entrance onto the scene (in 2014-ish). .

...and it seems to me that Tether has beat the pants off of so many of the denialists and the naysayers, including the time in 2016 or so?  I cannot recall exactly when they had something like $800 million stolen from them in some Panamanian financial institutions, likely with winks and nods from branches of the US government trying to figure out how to take Tether down in terms of considering that they were sufficiently vulnerable to financial fuckery...and yeah, US government attacks on USDT while at the same time seeming to reach some agreements with them in terms of some allowance of back doors into tether and getting Tether to lock funds, cooperate with governments, which might even relate to surveillance arrangements, which seems to have had been the arrangement since some of the NY District cases were dropped in the past 4-5 years.

 I am not claiming to having had studied these Tether matters in detail beyond just coming across these various dynamics within the bitcoin related space from time to time in which USDT has become a behemoth and not really seeming to pull some of the shady cozying up to government like the maneuvers that the Circle managers/leaders have been seeming to be inclined to practice.

I also get the impression that the USDT guys are really recognizing and appreciating bitcoin as the superior play, while the Circle guys consider appeals to government authority to be the superior play, and the Circle guys do not seem to hesitate to try to throw bitcoin under the bus when they consider that it might be to their advantage.. maybe partially evidenced by which side of the 2017 blocksize wars that each of these players fell.

I was a Tether supporter until they scrubbed their backed 1 to 1 with usd statement from their site, now they are nothing more than a untrustworthy bank as far as I'm concerned.

maybe, or, perhaps, they bought something like 50K btc and 50 tons of gold, lol, making it NOT only backed with usd.

That was not their use case, that is speculating.

To that extent they never had $$ to begin with. They had treasuries...it is almost the same, but not exactly.
I get your point though...my point was that they have "coverage", perhaps.
That said, I have no USDT (and USDC after the bank fiasco).

[philipma1957]

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I am largely just responding to the parathesis portion of your post.. Otherwise I largely agree with what seems to be your points.  Hahahahaha..

Tether hating seems to be in your username.

You maybe are coming off as one of those Tether haters, and aren't they labelled as "Tether denialists?" I am not claiming to be a Tether lover, but from my perspective Tether has always seem to defer to bitcoin and recognize bitcoin as the basis for their ability to exist, and surely the Tether deniers have been around since soon after Tether's entrance onto the scene (in 2014-ish). .

...and it seems to me that Tether has beat the pants off of so many of the denialists and the naysayers, including the time in 2016 or so?  I cannot recall exactly when they had something like $800 million stolen from them in some Panamanian financial institutions, likely with winks and nods from branches of the US government trying to figure out how to take Tether down in terms of considering that they were sufficiently vulnerable to financial fuckery...and yeah, US government attacks on USDT while at the same time seeming to reach some agreements with them in terms of some allowance of back doors into tether and getting Tether to lock funds, cooperate with governments, which might even relate to surveillance arrangements, which seems to have had been the arrangement since some of the NY District cases were dropped in the past 4-5 years.

 I am not claiming to having had studied these Tether matters in detail beyond just coming across these various dynamics within the bitcoin related space from time to time in which USDT has become a behemoth and not really seeming to pull some of the shady cozying up to government like the maneuvers that the Circle managers/leaders have been seeming to be inclined to practice.

I also get the impression that the USDT guys are really recognizing and appreciating bitcoin as the superior play, while the Circle guys consider appeals to government authority to be the superior play, and the Circle guys do not seem to hesitate to try to throw bitcoin under the bus when they consider that it might be to their advantage.. maybe partially evidenced by which side of the 2017 blocksize wars that each of these players fell.

I was a Tether supporter until they scrubbed their backed 1 to 1 with usd statement from their site, now they are nothing more than a untrustworthy bank as far as I'm concerned.

maybe, or, perhaps, they bought something like 50K btc and 50 tons of gold, lol, making it NOT only backed with usd.

That was not their use case, that is speculating.

To that extent they never had $$ to begin with. They had treasuries...it is almost the same, but not exactly.
I get your point though...my point was that they have "coverage", perhaps.
That said, I have no USDT (and USDC after the bank fiasco).

cash in a bank if usa based is likely to he better.

i have no usdc and no usdt

i do have cash in a bank.

but i have much more btc than cash.


i have a small amount of

doge
ltc
trump
solana

and hard silver
along with mining gear

and I continue to stack and hold.

not sell

except for a small amounts sell ladder.

from

113 to 277

[Hueristic]

To that extent they never had $$ to begin with. They had treasuries...it is almost the same, but not exactly.
I get your point though...my point was that they have "coverage", perhaps.
That said, I have no USDT (and USDC after the bank fiasco).

Haha, why anyone would trust a cutout of Goldman ballsacks is beyond me!

[ChartBuddy]

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[philipma1957]

buddy butts in on convo.

why are usdt or usdc cutouts of goldman ball sacks

asking for a friend

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[Hueristic]

buddy butts in on convo.

why are usdt or usdc cutouts of goldman ball sacks

asking for a friend

USDC is Circle, it is a cutout of G.Ballsacks.

I don't understand anyone that uses tokens from sources they haven't vetted.

*not to mention on exchanges they don't vet.

[ChartBuddy]

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[philipma1957]

buddy butts in on convo.

why are usdt or usdc cutouts of goldman ball sacks

asking for a friend

USDC is Circle, it is a cutout of G.Ballsacks.

I don't understand anyone that uses tokens from sources they haven't vetted.

*not to mention on exchanges they don't vet.

that is why i do not hold usdc or usdt

[OgNasty]

buddy butts in on convo.

why are usdt or usdc cutouts of goldman ball sacks

asking for a friend

USDC is Circle, it is a cutout of G.Ballsacks.

I don't understand anyone that uses tokens from sources they haven't vetted.

*not to mention on exchanges they don't vet.

that is why i do not hold usdc or usdt

Circle being a public company and raising funds at a valuation several times their holdings makes it fairly safe in my opinion. Not to mention I like playing around in DeFi and I also like supporting all the Bitcoin things. I own some FBTC, MSTR, and even BLK to go along with wrapped Bitcoin. DeFi is pretty cool and there are cool ways to use Bitcoin with it.

[Hueristic]

buddy butts in on convo.

why are usdt or usdc cutouts of goldman ball sacks

asking for a friend

USDC is Circle, it is a cutout of G.Ballsacks.

I don't understand anyone that uses tokens from sources they haven't vetted.

*not to mention on exchanges they don't vet.

that is why i do not hold usdc or usdt

Circle being a public company and raising funds at a valuation several times their holdings makes it fairly safe in my opinion. Not to mention I like playing around in DeFi and I also like supporting all the Bitcoin things. I own some FBTC, MSTR, and even BLK to go along with wrapped Bitcoin. DeFi is pretty cool and there are cool ways to use Bitcoin with it.

Apparently you don't know about them ripping off poleniex users, they are corporate raiders.

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[cAPSLOCK]

I came here with this thing that I thought was very smart to type about Bitcoin and how we use it and so on. Fuck that. This is all I got.

BITCOOOOOOOOIIIIIIN.!!!!!!!!

[philipma1957]

I came here with this thing that I thought was very smart to type about Bitcoin and how we use it and so on. Fuck that. This is all I got.

BITCOOOOOOOOIIIIIIN.!!!!!!!!

to duhhhhh moooooon!!!!!

[xhomerx10]

I came here with this thing that I thought was very smart to type about Bitcoin and how we use it and so on. Fuck that. This is all I got.

BITCOOOOOOOOIIIIIIN.!!!!!!!!

 Frankie?!!



 You really need the audio though

https://x.com/frankiemacd/status/1683545433501474825
https://x.com/frankiemacd/status/1851317453357236620
https://x.com/frankiemacd/status/1499170877212082178
https://x.com/frankiemacd/status/1291891426872172544
https://x.com/frankiemacd/status/1636846906457325575
https://x.com/frankiemacd/status/1587866491701133312


 Frankie MacDonald is probably a stronger proponent of Bitcoin than Michael Saylor.

https://x.com/frankiemacd/status/1292156108476502016

 I hope he owns hundreds of them.

[ChartBuddy]

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[cAPSLOCK]

Yes! Frankie's voice is exactly whose voice was in what I typed. You are right.

I tried to make this AI thing, but I don't think I got it past almost good enough. I tried, though. Here, I'll post it anyway.

This was yesterday. I believe it's still working....



It could be too late to call forth the future that I want, but it's not too late to call forth the future in which we all get rich.

[Negotiation]

Frankie?!!
~

Video Source.

Nice one, trying to set WO Wall.