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[ChartBuddy]

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[ESG]

Yes.  It is ONLY you that realized that since the BTCETFInvestor twat is likely not interested in self-custody... even though the post might be useful to someone else considering bitcoin to be more than just looking into Bitcoin spot ETF ownership.

 Although you don't like it, what you said, is the exact definition of help that I have mentioned, although it is really here just to hinder and troll as much as possible, at the same time it serves the purpose of that help that I talk about so much, and I am really delighted with the way you changed the treatment with it and that makes you a more sensible person, Bringing readers a good approach to Bitcoin, in which regardless of the value in fictitious money, the value of the portability it has, despite the path that developers are taking, which certainly worries those who are aware of what the changes can bring in the issue of privacy and or the involvement mainly of those who are showing up in the media for, ... Really, you can't understand what a guy like that does in this place except to create confusion, he still doesn't understand the part that 1btc is  equals 1btc, and 1 etf is equal to a piece of paper, and apparently, his goal is not to understand, but to try to cause discord, and he insists on this and really your most recent approach with him, I liked it a lot, because you show those who are in doubt, the importance of Bitcoin, And also I feel a lot of sadness for those who are exchanging their true BTCs for pieces of paper due to the promises that the government has made, about exemptions and etc., do they not realize that it is a trap? By the time they realize it, it will be too late. the propaganda is very strong, and this propaganda is not free, it is financed.... As if somehow,,a way to slow down the circulation of BTC is not in the hands of the general population... So, your last approaches to it, only show the importance of having bitcoin to others who still don't understand, and when you were in friction with it, you strengthened it, maybe even frightening people who still don't understand the importance of having real bitcoin and not on paper stamped and given with promises.... And all that this gang of Morgans, scwabs, soros, bergs, fellers and limited company want, a discord among theses that are on btc....they dont want, They don't want people united, people united are a power they can't control, proving that an instigator of roles with promise within a group where they talk about Bitcoin-related issues, constantly publishing repeated news about what's happening in the world of seasonalinvestors, and when they speak, they speak with the intention of causing disagreement and friction, It's to be worried, it really seems that something isn't right, and that's very different from what I say here from time to time, It's one thing for you to troll me because of the mixed nonsense that I put together to talk about the trend, because here is an area of speculation, and me being right or wrong, that's irrelevant, but it's another thing, it's trying to make people interested in products of the controlling power and insist on it, and it's no small amount of insistence, It is really scary the ignorant way to pretend to be dizzy, flap the wings mess up the pieces, shit on the table and fly away with the chest puffed up.

Treating the pigs for slaughter is one thing, and another is to join them and roll in the mud.

[ChartBuddy]

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[PrivacyG]

Should we start naming and shaming FUD spreaders who spook Bitcoin newbies into selling for a loss/potential gains loss?

Will public ridicule stop these people?
Or do they only care about publicity, regardless of how people view them and the damage they inflict on others? (Like Faketoshi)

I do not know how naming and shaming them would help in any sort of way.  There are too many names, they are making too little Profits out of it and the weak will stay weak unless they are interested in becoming stronger.

They should learn from mistakes but they never do.  They always keep repeating the same mistake over and over again thinking it is finally their time to win.  I know many such people and they are so convinced about how good their bad decisions were that I can not even think of debating or contradicting them at all.  For the most part.  They are living in their own world.  Bad people will pretty much always get more attention than good people and it is the fault of nobody else but the people giving them attention all the time.

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Spain wants to ban encryption entirely.

Interesting...

I think they have a brilliant idea for post quantum cryptography (poc)

How is it possible to hack a wallet without encryption or pv key.

Brilliant

Here is a simple idea that I have.  If they ban Bitcoin, Encryption, anonymity over the Internet as in obliging all users to link their accounts to their identity et cetera, then there will be so little Privacy that I will not mind not having 'Freedom' any more by breaching absurd laws.  Because if looking for Freedom and Privacy is a breach of law and the Government turns into a surveillance nanny state, it really does sound like jail will be a better and more Free world than the 'Free land'.

That is, unless the State turns full North Korean style and jail means I may get a missile through my head for simply thinking about messaging my kid with out the knowledge of the Government.

[OutOfMemory]

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Spain wants to ban encryption entirely.

Interesting...

I think they have a brilliant idea for post quantum cryptography (poc)

How is it possible to hack a wallet without encryption or pv key.

Brilliant

SOURCE?!

Who is this "Spain", anyway?
The King?
The President?
"The government"`?
Some minister?
Yo mama?

I doubt they would give up HTTPS/SSL.

[cAPSLOCK]

Phrase words...  😁

[cAPSLOCK]

I feel like something big is rumbling off in the distance.

 Well I'm not surprised; I made vegan chili last night (for reasons) with 4 kinds of beans and I also used Gardein Suprême Frozen Ground Be'f Crumbles which is mostly pea protein. That's most likely the cause of what you're feeling.

From all the way up there?  Its like seeing the Aurora in Tejas.

[ChartBuddy]

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[ChartBuddy]

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[BobLawblaw]

I feel like something big is rumbling off in the distance.

That's just my stomach, since adding Metamucil and plant sterols to the daily regimen; takes a while for the stomach biome to adjust, from my understanding.

This getting old stuff really sucks, NGL.

[LoyceV]

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Spain wants to ban encryption entirely.

SOURCE?!

I've seen brainfarts like that before, usually from politicians who think "encryption is used by criminals" and don't understand we'd be in the dark ages without encryption.

[ChartBuddy]

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[vapourminer]

The nature of my existence means nothing if it is held in check by drugged water and food.

as long as I get to choose the drugs..

[ChartBuddy]

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[OutOfMemory]

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Spain wants to ban encryption entirely.

SOURCE?!

I've seen brainfarts like that before, usually from politicians who think "encryption is used by criminals" and don't understand we'd be in the dark ages without encryption.

Politicians usually aren't experts. Most times they are depending on the latter, and sometimes those are dumb or corrupted, but the harm done by decisions without relying on expertise is generally worse. Spain did get in the headlines with questionable measures and statements lately, so i would not doubt the statement itself.
Call me oldfashioned (*insert old-fart-behind-computer-screen-meme here*), but i'd like to know sources which tell me more about origins and backgrounds.
Last not least: More often than not, context is key.

[BTCETFInvestor]

Yes.  It is ONLY you that realized that since the BTCETFInvestor twat is likely not interested in self-custody... even though the post might be useful to someone else considering bitcoin to be more than just looking into Bitcoin spot ETF ownership.

 Although you don't like it, what you said, is the exact definition of help that I have mentioned, although it is really here just to hinder and troll as much as possible, at the same time it serves the purpose of that help that I talk about so much, and I am really delighted with the way you changed the treatment with it and that makes you a more sensible person, Bringing readers a good approach to Bitcoin, in which regardless of the value in fictitious money, the value of the portability it has, despite the path that developers are taking, which certainly worries those who are aware of what the changes can bring in the issue of privacy and or the involvement mainly of those who are showing up in the media for, ... Really, you can't understand what a guy like that does in this place except to create confusion, he still doesn't understand the part that 1btc is  equals 1btc, and 1 etf is equal to a piece of paper, and apparently, his goal is not to understand, but to try to cause discord, and he insists on this and really your most recent approach with him, I liked it a lot, because you show those who are in doubt, the importance of Bitcoin, And also I feel a lot of sadness for those who are exchanging their true BTCs for pieces of paper due to the promises that the government has made, about exemptions and etc., do they not realize that it is a trap? By the time they realize it, it will be too late. the propaganda is very strong, and this propaganda is not free, it is financed.... As if somehow,,a way to slow down the circulation of BTC is not in the hands of the general population... So, your last approaches to it, only show the importance of having bitcoin to others who still don't understand, and when you were in friction with it, you strengthened it, maybe even frightening people who still don't understand the importance of having real bitcoin and not on paper stamped and given with promises.... And all that this gang of Morgans, scwabs, soros, bergs, fellers and limited company want, a discord among theses that are on btc....they dont want, They don't want people united, people united are a power they can't control, proving that an instigator of roles with promise within a group where they talk about Bitcoin-related issues, constantly publishing repeated news about what's happening in the world of seasonalinvestors, and when they speak, they speak with the intention of causing disagreement and friction, It's to be worried, it really seems that something isn't right, and that's very different from what I say here from time to time, It's one thing for you to troll me because of the mixed nonsense that I put together to talk about the trend, because here is an area of speculation, and me being right or wrong, that's irrelevant, but it's another thing, it's trying to make people interested in products of the controlling power and insist on it, and it's no small amount of insistence, It is really scary the ignorant way to pretend to be dizzy, flap the wings mess up the pieces, shit on the table and fly away with the chest puffed up.

Treating the pigs for slaughter is one thing, and another is to join them and roll in the mud.

@ESG - You and JJG must be Siamese twins connected at the head with one pea-sized brain - with you two posting thousand word messages that ramble on and on, and only occasionally making any sense. 

[ChartBuddy]

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[ESG]

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Spain wants to ban encryption entirely.

SOURCE?!

I've seen brainfarts like that before, usually from politicians who think "encryption is used by criminals" and don't understand we'd be in the dark ages without encryption.

Politicians usually aren't experts. Most times they are depending on the latter, and sometimes those are dumb or corrupted, but the harm done by decisions without relying on expertise is generally worse. Spain did get in the headlines with questionable measures and statements lately, so i would not doubt the statement itself.
Call me oldfashioned (*insert old-fart-behind-computer-screen-meme here*), but i'd like to know sources which tell me more about origins and backgrounds.
Last not least: More often than not, context is key.

 This seems to be from the video that told the guy who feels free inside his house, who faithfully believes in the government, and he didn't want to know about it, so I feel obliged to put the source here.

 I did a quick search, and the source was from Wired, but other outlets resonated...

Leaked Government Document Shows Spain Wants to Ban End-to-End Encryption

In response to an EU proposal to scan private messages for illegal material, the country's officials said it is “imperative that we have access to the data.”

  Spain has advocated banning encryption for hundreds of millions of people within the European Union, according to a leaked document obtained by WIRED that reveals strong support among EU member states for proposals to scan private messages for illegal content

.In the video I posted, which is recent, things like this are being discussed, but the news is from 2023... context really explains more in itself than the news.

.Other sources also commented on Wired's news>

Spain Calls for Total EU Ban on Encrypted Messaging

  . Fifteen member states are in favor of extending the EU’s upcoming surveillance law to end-to-end encryption, while Spain would outright ban it in the entire EU.

   Spain’s position on the EU’s proposed Chat Control regulation is even more extreme than the Commission’s, as the country has been calling for a complete EU-wide ban on end-to-end encryption technology used by popular messaging apps, according to a document leaked to Wired earlier this month.

The so-called Child Sexual Abuse Regulation (CSAR), dubbed Chat Control by critics, would force service providers to scan the private messages of Europeans, both texts and pictures, in an effort to clamp down on the dissemination of illicit content linked to child sexual exploitation material (CSEM). Messages and media, including audio and video files, that draw suspicion of the automated scanning system would be flagged and then sent to a central database for further investigation.

Naturally, the proposal prompted waves of backlash directed at the Commission, with critics (including human rights NGOs and watchdogs dealing with digital freedom) calling Chat Control a clear violation of the fundamental right to privacy, raising serious doubts about its efficacy in achieving what it set out to, and even pointing out its ambiguous support among stakeholders who were consulted, such as child protection agencies and the teenagers themselves.

According to the Pirate Party MEP Patrick Breyer, perhaps the loudest opponent of the proposal in Brussels (with whom we had a detailed interview), the main problem is that there is still not enough awareness of this legislation among the general population to put up a meaningful resistance. “If [European] citizens were aware of Chat Control, the debate would be tremendous,” he told The European Conservative.

To add another layer, the draft proposal also includes the scanning of messages protected by end-to-end encryption, which is deployed by many popular messaging apps and is used by millions every day, including WhatsApp, Signal, and Telegram, which is the primary subject of the leaked document obtained by Wired.

For his part, Breyer believes that this amendment will be dropped during EU negotiations, but it’s still interesting to see where countries stand with the idea. Or, rather, where they stood in mid-April, when the survey, sent out by the European Council, was dated.

The document detailing the position of 20 EU member states revealed that the majority are in favor of scanning the private correspondence of European citizens, and most of them support extending the measure to encrypted communication as well. Among them, the Spanish socialist government appears to be the one that would like to go one step further in dealing with encrypted information, proposing to ban the whole technology in the EU.

“Ideally, in our view, it would be desirable to legislatively prevent EU-based service providers from implementing end-to-end encryption,” the Spanish position in the document says, later adding that “It is imperative that we have access to the data … and it is equally imperative that we have the capacity to analyze them, no matter how large the volume.”

Of the 20 countries whose views have been compiled in the document, 15 also favor including encrypted communication under the scope of the law. Many of them identified encrypted messaging services as the primary channel for dissemination of CSEM and recommended that the final law should include clear wording to make sure companies comply.

Some countries, including Denmark, Ireland, and the Netherlands, signaled support for scanning encrypted messages, but would also add further measures to protect the end-to-end encryption of these apps from weakening. This a noble sentiment, but cybersecurity experts say it’s technically impossible to do both.

“They want to keep the security of encryption whilst being able to circumvent it … they want privacy but they also want to indiscriminately scan encrypted communications,” Ella Jakubowska, a senior policy advisor at the European Digital Rights (EDRi) said, adding that she is “unsurprised but nevertheless shocked” at some EU member states’ “really shallow understanding” of the technology they would like to regulate.

Others, such as Germany, Italy, Finland, and Estonia, were not as convinced as the majority that the benefits of being able to scan encrypted messages outweigh the potential harm of weakening the entire system and putting the user at risk of being hacked by malicious actors or prompting service providers to leave the European market.

These responses “demonstrate a more comprehensive understanding of the stakes in the CSA regulation discussions,” said Riana Pfefferkorn, a research scholar at Stanford University’s Internet Observatory. “The regulation will not only affect criminal investigations for a specific set of offenses; it affects governments’ own data security, national security, and the privacy and data protection rights of their citizens, as well as innovation and economic development.”

[BTCETFInvestor]

This article is interesting - It makes a Bitcoin price prediction by JPMorgan and provides information on Hashrate decline and miner production costs:

► https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-price-could-hit-170k-110608523.html

Strategy’s ability to hold Bitcoin may shape BTC’s path, as JPMorgan’s gold-based analysis signals potential for $170K.

As profits tighten, several high-cost producers have been forced to liquidate Bitcoin holdings in recent weeks to remain solvent.

Despite those pressures, JPMorgan said miners are no longer the key driver of Bitcoin’s next major move. Instead, attention has shifted to Strategy’s ability to maintain its Bitcoin position without being forced into sales.