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[bitmover]

Indentation issues in Python are the most bullshit thing ever, and whoever came up with that idea needs the rusty pipe treatment.

And things are much easier now with AI.

You can now just paste your code and say "fix whatever is wrong here"
Just 4 years ago you couldn't do that. You needed to be counting spaces lol

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[vapourminer]

Indentation issues in Python are the most bullshit thing ever, and whoever came up with that idea needs the rusty pipe treatment.

And things are much easier now with AI.

You can now just paste your code and say "fix whatever is wrong here"
Just 4 years ago you couldn't do that. You needed to be counting spaces lol

remember in early ~1980s films about hackers and computers. like they would type "hack firewall" and it would lol. with appropriate "beep boop" noises. hahaha ... and i would laugh in DOS or bash cli


only now wtf?? you can type that and it will hack a firewall.

f.... im old i am

[d_eddie]

Indentation issues in Python are the most bullshit thing ever, and whoever came up with that idea needs the rusty pipe treatment.

Apparently, some people are too lazy to type proper braces.
Laziness is the mother of all hacks, so they hacked Python into being.
There was a hidden haiku in here, but I refuse to hack a haiku on Python right now,
or I will have to indent it properly.

[AlcoHoDL]

Indentation issues in Python are the most bullshit thing ever, and whoever came up with that idea needs the rusty pipe treatment.

Apparently, some people are too lazy to type proper braces.
Laziness is the mother of all hacks, so they hacked Python into being.
There was a hidden haiku in here, but I refuse to hack a haiku on Python right now,
or I will have to indent it properly.

I vote for C, my favorite programming language of all time. Completely ignores white spaces. The same code can be 1000 lines, or a single long line. Total freedom to sculpt your code exactly how you want it. Simply perfect!

[psycodad]

You sound like their minister of justice, who sees nothing wrong with the police hunting people in the workplace and on the streets and putting them in jail without charge. It is easiest to write that the collateral damage is only 1%, but only until you find yourself in a situation where you or someone important to you ends up in some prison.

While his people live in poverty, he builds hotels for pets and promises grandiose projects that will never come true.

You may not know how the story began, but if you feel like reading...

https://davidgerard.co.uk/blockchain/2022/02/26/el-salvador-bitcoin-tether-buys-itself-a-country-and-why-chivo-sucks/

But what if you find yourself in the opposite side of that equation. A family members dies because he was killed by criminal, who was already arrested but released in the same day.

I really doubt any innocent people are getting arrested in El Salvador. But criminals certainly do not have their human rights being respected. Is it a great collateral damage compared to innocent people getting murdered?

It is even easier to write that when you are writing from a nice place and have never had family members kidnapped and murdered, remains never even found.

In Brazil everyone knows someone who had been kidnapped or murdered or at least shot. A completely different reality from developed countries, where people are blunt around for human rights and privileges.

I would, in general, agree with your points, but I would take issue with the bolded.

I feel certain there are people in Cecot who probably shouldn't be.  How many little brothers or cousins of some tatted up tough guy decided to get the same kind of tattoos to be like someone they respect?  Maybe they were even on the path to doing bad things with one of the gangs that are so famous in the area.  And then they got swept up in the mass arrests.

Collateral damage? I am certain there are some people in that big jail system that don't belong there. Unfortunately, if they ever do get out, it will have become a self-fulfilling prophecy because now that is who they are.

I find topics like that one very interesting because it's very easy to take a high horse position on one side or the other. (not saying that's what you were doing.).

Bukele used a broad brush shotgun approach to cleaning up the crime in his country and did a miraculous job of it.  But in that size of an operation, I feel it could only be certain that some mistakes were made.

I feel like mentioning a documentation I recently saw:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Alabama_Solution

Found it really impressing, and I am not posting this to point fingers at the US.
The point I am trying to make is that whenever gubbermint decides something has to be done and tries to impress its voters, there will be collateral damage.
Take for example the hunt for everything right of leftwing extremist in Europe but especially Germany, the 60 minutes about speech policing in Germany would serve as example for collateral damage equally well.

Grandma always told me "Kehre zuerst vor der eigenen Türe!" (literally translated "Clean in front of your own door/house first"). Figuratively it means we should spend time improving our very own systems/countries/selves before we start exporting/forcing upon our systems unto others.

Back out to RL where serious health issues in the family keep me quite busy.

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[BitHodlers]

A country where they capture innocent people to meet their daily arrest quota is on par with Russia or North Korea. I don't need someone who is biased to convince me that milk and honey are flowing in that country, because there is always another dark side to the story that such people refuse to see.

The following documentary has been shown on many television channels (at least when it comes to the EU), and those who want to understand what is really happening there should watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjq0ECRxhA (Inside CECOT, the World's Biggest Prison: El Salvador’s War on Gangs | Full Documentary)

The irony of an EU propaganda drinker talking about bias. El Salvador is doing great, it has better prospects than your country and that says a lot. You have no data to back up any claims, you only have anecdotes which proves that you are wrong.

[philipma1957]

A country where they capture innocent people to meet their daily arrest quota is on par with Russia or North Korea. I don't need someone who is biased to convince me that milk and honey are flowing in that country, because there is always another dark side to the story that such people refuse to see.

The following documentary has been shown on many television channels (at least when it comes to the EU), and those who want to understand what is really happening there should watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjq0ECRxhA (Inside CECOT, the World's Biggest Prison: El Salvador’s War on Gangs | Full Documentary)

The irony of an EU propaganda drinker talking about bias. El Salvador is doing great, it has better prospects than your country and that says a lot. You have no data to back up any claims, you only have anecdotes which proves that you are wrong.

it is good that he talked it helps to show just how much agenda media has into telling the world that the leader of Costa Rica is terrible.

He is a b or b+

I give him a higher score than Biden or Trump or Bush

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[BitHodlers]

A country where they capture innocent people to meet their daily arrest quota is on par with Russia or North Korea. I don't need someone who is biased to convince me that milk and honey are flowing in that country, because there is always another dark side to the story that such people refuse to see.

The following documentary has been shown on many television channels (at least when it comes to the EU), and those who want to understand what is really happening there should watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjq0ECRxhA (Inside CECOT, the World's Biggest Prison: El Salvador’s War on Gangs | Full Documentary)

The irony of an EU propaganda drinker talking about bias. El Salvador is doing great, it has better prospects than your country and that says a lot. You have no data to back up any claims, you only have anecdotes which proves that you are wrong.

it is good that he talked it helps to show just how much agenda media has into telling the world that the leader of Costa Rica is terrible.

He is a b or b+

I give him a higher score than Biden or Trump or Bush

Where did Costa Rica come from? A small error?   But you are definitely right on that, media bias is extreme and you can find it strong in the EU. They point fingers at Russia and China media, but EU is the same and maybe even worse.. what a joke.

How dare Bukele fix the whole country, now he is making us look bad so he must be a bad guy. Dictator and human rights violator, we must protect the human rights of criminals and a few innocent collateral victims! Who cares about the huge number of innocent people being murdered, they don't matter. That is how their brain works lol they start printing all words that come to mind. Fixing crime means a collapse of democracy too.  

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[JayJuanGee]

[...]
God did not intend man to live and/or travel in space, and we tend to suffer extensive bone loss damage if we are in space for significant periods of time.
Elon (and other earth non-lovers) can go.  If he (they) want(s). No problem.

I don't think a god had anything to do with it, but nature and evolution had everything to do with it -- but that's just my opinion. I agree, humans are not meant to live in space, or Mars, or anywhere away from Earth (or an Earth-like environment). We even "increase" Earth's g by using weights in the gym or running uphill, so as to keep fit and healthy. Imagine living in a place with a much lower g...

Hahahaha

Mr. serious  - aka AlcoHoDL.

Think about on earth, we have some pretty extreme areas that we have been able to make sustainable through electricity and other technological innovations, and there are likely some quite hostile environments on earth that would be quite challenging to make sustainable, such as the extremes of the poles or in very high elevations or even in the depths of the ocean. 

As for Elon, by all means, let him go. No problem at all.

There will be some Elon fanboy folks crying their eyes out.. .hahahaha

Edit: this reminded me of the intro of a song by Enigma:
"Earth. A biosphere. A complex, subtly balanced life-support system."
Enigma - Morphing Thru Time

Wow.  That is a 2 hour and 14 minute clip, and I listened to quite a bit of it. It would be nice to have as background sound in my playlist.

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Sure enough that is not perfect, but if the people there are saying that this is the tradeoff that they want to make to solve the issue of crime who are we to criticize it? It does not make sense at all to criticize Bukele for that when almost the whole population is on board and we are not talking about government run surveys, you can ask real people from El Salvadore yourself. The use of these powers simply shows that the situation under previous governments has gotten so bad that there was no other way to fix this so fast without resorting to extreme measures.

It was definitely worth it, a big majority of the citizens agree with that. Collateral damage is not even 1% of the collateral damage of the crime. It is going to pass eventually, but what was accomplished in this short amount of time is almost impossible. Have you seen the state of crime in many places in Europe or the United States? I felt safer walking in San Salvador than I did walking in Paris.

I doubt everyone agrees, and yeah giving rights to privacy and giving due process rights is not an easy balance.

I don't consider myself to be just a one-sided kind of a person since I don't like the idea of being unsafe, yet I also do not like the idea of having no privacy rights, including that everyone (including people accused of wrong-doing) should have some expectations of privacy in certain realms, too.

[philipma1957]

A country where they capture innocent people to meet their daily arrest quota is on par with Russia or North Korea. I don't need someone who is biased to convince me that milk and honey are flowing in that country, because there is always another dark side to the story that such people refuse to see.

The following documentary has been shown on many television channels (at least when it comes to the EU), and those who want to understand what is really happening there should watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjq0ECRxhA (Inside CECOT, the World's Biggest Prison: El Salvador’s War on Gangs | Full Documentary)

The irony of an EU propaganda drinker talking about bias. El Salvador is doing great, it has better prospects than your country and that says a lot. You have no data to back up any claims, you only have anecdotes which proves that you are wrong.

it is good that he talked it helps to show just how much agenda media has into telling the world that the leader of Costa Rica is terrible.

He is a b or b+

I give him a higher score than Biden or Trump or Bush

Where did Costa Rica come from? A small error?   But you are definitely right on that, media bias is extreme and you can find it strong in the EU. They point fingers at Russia and China media, but EU is the same and maybe even worse.. what a joke.

How dare Bukele fix the whole country, now he is making us look bad so he must be a bad guy. Dictator and human rights violator, we must protect the human rights of criminals and a few innocent collateral victims! Who cares about the huge number of innocent people being murdered, they don't matter. That is how their brain works lol they start printing all words that come to mind. Fixing crime means a collapse of democracy too.  

TAKE a good look at Haiti it fell apart .

In order to fix countries that have fallen into mutiple gang you need to be brutal and jail many many many many people.

If lucky 9 of 10 deserve it and 1 of 10 did not.

This is pretty much what was done by Bukele. he was tough and jailed a ton of people crime is way down.

BTW I grew up in NY city crime was nuts in the 70s and 80s.

Rudy Guliana became the mayor got money From Bill Clinton and clean NYC up.

but eventually they jailed so many and were so aggressive  that the cops got out of control.


I lived the
rough all that crap murders were 2,000 a year many years in a row. The cops got the murder down under 500 a year.

But you did end up being afraid of cops. Its a balance.


I had a mine with a NJ guy he wanted to move to Costa Rica.

heres hoping he checks the cops at a decent level of toughness.

[Hueristic]

A country where they capture innocent people to meet their daily arrest quota is on par with Russia or North Korea. I don't need someone who is biased to convince me that milk and honey are flowing in that country, because there is always another dark side to the story that such people refuse to see.

The following documentary has been shown on many television channels (at least when it comes to the EU), and those who want to understand what is really happening there should watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWjq0ECRxhA (Inside CECOT, the World's Biggest Prison: El Salvador’s War on Gangs | Full Documentary)

The irony of an EU propaganda drinker talking about bias. El Salvador is doing great, it has better prospects than your country and that says a lot. You have no data to back up any claims, you only have anecdotes which proves that you are wrong.

it is good that he talked it helps to show just how much agenda media has into telling the world that the leader of Costa Rica is terrible.

He is a b or b+

I give him a higher score than Biden or Trump or Bush

Where did Costa Rica come from? A small error?   But you are definitely right on that, media bias is extreme and you can find it strong in the EU. They point fingers at Russia and China media, but EU is the same and maybe even worse.. what a joke.

How dare Bukele fix the whole country, now he is making us look bad so he must be a bad guy. Dictator and human rights violator, we must protect the human rights of criminals and a few innocent collateral victims! Who cares about the huge number of innocent people being murdered, they don't matter. That is how their brain works lol they start printing all words that come to mind. Fixing crime means a collapse of democracy too.  

TAKE a good look at Haiti it fell apart .

In order to fix countries that have fallen into mutiple gang you need to be brutal and jail many many many many people.

If lucky 9 of 10 deserve it and 1 of 10 did not.

This is pretty much what was done by Bukele. he was tough and jailed a ton of people crime is way down.

BTW I grew up in NY city crime was nuts in the 70s and 80s.

Rudy Guliana became the mayor got money From Bill Clinton and clean NYC up.

but eventually they jailed so many and were so aggressive  that the cops got out of control.


I lived the
rough all that crap murders were 2,000 a year many years in a row. The cops got the murder down under 500 a year.

But you did end up being afraid of cops. Its a balance.


I had a mine with a NJ guy he wanted to move to Costa Rica.

heres hoping he checks the cops at a decent level of toughness.

Not gonna disagree with this but for one time I'd like to see everyone that caused the country to turn into a shithole and force the people on the bottom to fight for scraps to be the ones locked up.

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[vapourminer]

Indentation issues in Python are the most bullshit thing ever, and whoever came up with that idea needs the rusty pipe treatment.

Apparently, some people are too lazy to type proper braces.
Laziness is the mother of all hacks, so they hacked Python into being.
There was a hidden haiku in here, but I refuse to hack a haiku on Python right now,
or I will have to indent it properly.

I vote for C, my favorite programming language of all time. Completely ignores white spaces. The same code can be 1000 lines, or a single long line. Total freedom to sculpt your code exactly how you want it. Simply perfect!

i remember removing spaces to conserve RAM, back when 8 thousand bytes of it was a flex

[Biodom]

I don't particularly like this type of a "halving", lol

A thought occurred: where bitcoin would be in deflation?

I know were the stocks would be-in the toilet...witness Japan 1989-2012...a bear market for 23 years!
Could something like this happen in US?
Seems unlikely, but who knows.

Btw, Japan is hyper-extending in the last 12mo (up 80%); it might crash 30-40% sometime soon a la 1987, most likely (would not stop the long bull, though).
I sold out at 60K (Nikkei 60K, not btc), though, lol.

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