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August 21, 2014, 05:39:34 PM

Guys... sorry for the OT. Today I'm a f*cking creative force  Grin This is the last one for today, i promise  Lips sealed

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August 21, 2014, 05:55:31 PM

Idiot dumpers.

Says "King Dumptard" himself.

says princess trollmuch herself...


im good

It seems ShroomsKit has bought himself another account.

No I didn't....oops.  Grin
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August 21, 2014, 05:55:56 PM

Coinbase is going to buy huge amounts tomorrow

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/bitcoin-chart-analysis-end-trend/2014/08/19

Segment Coinbase Friday

Wouldn't want to hurt a rally, but the article based on inaccurate info.  Coinbase buys a certain amount EACH day, turns out lots of buyers that tried to purchase on the drop Sunday morning got that error, which I've seen in the past.  Coinbase soon fixed it later that morning. 

That message just means at that time, the broker Coinbase can't guarantee the buy with their exchange Bitstamp.  It does not mean that they held off on purchasing all Bitcoins until Friday the 22nd.

Reference this thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=742591.0
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August 21, 2014, 05:59:32 PM


Explanation
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That man was a disaster! Western civilizations downfall is partly this mans fault.

The more I think about it, the more I cannot find a single modern nightmare problem that Richard Nixon did not have a gigantic hand in. Although I do agree, Churchhill is a huge racist imperialist dick.

Well, there are worse leaders:



the west used and screwed these guys too... hence the hermit(ness)
They were the ones that invaded the south and their society is so hell bent on staying closed to outside information, they constantly blame their ills on an imperial west which we are. They'd be in even worse shape w/o their markets where smugglers bring in foreign products allowing the matriarchs to put food on the table through sales.

Having lived in South Korea for several years, the thing the western media never shows is after any anti-US protest by a few kids, the next day there was ALWAYS a much larger pro-US counter protest by the older generations.

The older people who lived through the war know that the US fought to create a stable open trade environment for them that allowed Korea to work hard and go from poorer than africa status to one of the richest countries in the world.

For some reason they seem to prefer that to the impoverished totalitarian hell hole up north the US stopped for them.

Is the US an imperial power run by a corporate/statist oligarchy? Yes. Does this need to be stopped? Yes. Were there many much worse and more evil alternatives in the 20th century that we should be thankful were avoid? Yes. (Pol Pot, Mao, Japanese 1+ million sex camps of teenage girls, Hitler, Stalin, I could go on)
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August 21, 2014, 06:10:36 PM

I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting really weary of the whole "Winklevii ETF launch soon, it will save us!" crap.

The SEC's job is supposed to include protecting the casual investor from fraudulent and misrepresented investments, like those that led to the crash of 1929.  If they were really committed to that, their position about COIN or any other bitcoin investment fund should be the one aptly and repeatedly illustrated in this classic video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gpjk_MaCGM

But, as we saw in the last financial crisis, the US government has redefined their mission as helping sleazy entrepreneurs to suck money from common folks.  So I suppose that the chances of COIN being approved are good.  The approval may have a positive effect on price, maybe.

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August 21, 2014, 06:12:46 PM

I know that realistically it has nothing to do with it, but everytime I go out of the country, the prices seem to rally.   We were at a low point for BTC and most of the other alts.   I left the country (and didn't really check prices), I got back and we had a really good recovery.

The last time, I left the country prices went  up a ton as well.   I guess that means I just need to take more vacations?
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August 21, 2014, 06:36:45 PM

I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting really weary of the whole "Winklevii ETF launch soon, it will save us!" crap.

The SEC's job is supposed to include protecting the casual investor from fraudulent and misrepresented investments, like those that led to the crash of 1929.  If they were really committed to that, their position about COIN or any other bitcoin investment fund should be the one aptly and repeatedly illustrated in this classic video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gpjk_MaCGM

But, as we saw in the last financial crisis, the US government has redefined their mission as helping sleazy entrepreneurs to suck money from common folks.  So I suppose that the chances of COIN being approved are good.  The approval may have a positive effect on price, maybe.


the SEC's job isn't to make investments risk free, its to stop shit like pirate40's Bitcoin Investment Trust from happening.
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August 21, 2014, 06:43:29 PM

Since some months, posts with "CCMFs" and train pictures seems to be the forces that wake bears from hibernation. Then Bears dump some coins, come back to sleep until market recovers until the first signals of CCMFs posts.
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That man was a disaster! Western civilizations downfall is partly this mans fault.

The more I think about it, the more I cannot find a single modern nightmare problem that Richard Nixon did not have a gigantic hand in. Although I do agree, Churchhill is a huge racist imperialist dick.

Well, there are worse leaders:



the west used and screwed these guys too... hence the hermit(ness)
They were the ones that invaded the south and their society is so hell bent on staying closed to outside information, they constantly blame their ills on an imperial west which we are. They'd be in even worse shape w/o their markets where smugglers bring in foreign products allowing the matriarchs to put food on the table through sales.

Having lived in South Korea for several years, the thing the western media never shows is after any anti-US protest by a few kids, the next day there was ALWAYS a much larger pro-US counter protest by the older generations.

The older people who lived through the war know that the US fought to create a stable open trade environment for them that allowed Korea to work hard and go from poorer than africa status to one of the richest countries in the world.

For some reason they seem to prefer that to the impoverished totalitarian hell hole up north the US stopped for them.

Is the US an imperial power run by a corporate/statist oligarchy? Yes. Does this need to be stopped? Yes. Were there many much worse and more evil alternatives in the 20th century that we should be thankful were avoid? Yes. (Pol Pot, Mao, Japanese 1+ million sex camps of teenage girls, Hitler, Stalin, I could go on)

Now you better hold on a minute there buddy. You're starting to make a little bit too much sense.
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August 21, 2014, 06:52:27 PM

I don't think that CCMF posts (which FGS, am I the only one trolling here? WTF is everybody?) signal the wake of the hibernating bears. I think that we're a LONG way before this thing is *something* that actually counts in the global economy scheme. ETFs? Sure! Amagi selling only for BTCs? YES! But people... let's face it. We're in STILL in the very beginning and that's not an understatement. If you don't believe me check the BTC's capitalization towards the individual country cap. As I said, we do have a long road ahead.


AND WE NEED TRAINZ!!!!1
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August 21, 2014, 06:59:32 PM


Explanation
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there you go ChartBuddy posting trains
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August 21, 2014, 07:07:28 PM

I guess Ethereum will sell off another batch of their coins when the price recovers further. Combined with the New York Issue we could see another panic sell before we get ready for the cold days.


Winter is coming!
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August 21, 2014, 07:09:17 PM

I guess Ethereum will sell off another batch of their coins when the price recovers further. Combined with the New York Issue we could see another panic sell before we get ready for the cold days.


Winter is coming!

can't they pay for there hookers and blow in BTC  as they consume guezz.


Ethereum logic: bitcoin recovered 12% better cash out a lifetime supply of fiat.

sad.

someone say it ain't so, i had respect for these guys...
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I guess Ethereum will sell off another batch of their coins when the price recovers further. Combined with the New York Issue we could see another panic sell before we get ready for the cold days.


Winter is coming!

can't they pay for there hookers and blow in BTC  as they consume guezz.


Ethereum logic: bitcoin recovered 12% better cash out a lifetime supply of fiat.

sad.

I heard they already had over 2 Million $ debts they have to pay. For lawyer marketing and so on.

So I guess they really need the money, it's not an investment for them. They need this money to keep everything running for now.
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August 21, 2014, 07:17:12 PM

Two pieces of Coinbase news:
(1) Coinbase is supposed to do an unusually large buy tomorrow or so I saw in a few articles (somebody could clean up that thought);
(2) Coinbase charged people Friday prices last week... hence they have an incentive to do an unusually large buy tomorrow to prop up the price to get more out of the price spread.

Expect $550 to $575 tomorrow... definitely get in on it, but be careful not to overreact when the price spikes (or at least overreact less than everybody else... =D).

These are my thoughts on what will happen next. The Junta says the price goes up... so the price goes up.
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I guess Ethereum will sell off another batch of their coins when the price recovers further. Combined with the New York Issue we could see another panic sell before we get ready for the cold days.


Winter is coming!

can't they pay for there hookers and blow in BTC  as they consume guezz.


Ethereum logic: bitcoin recovered 12% better cash out a lifetime supply of fiat.

sad.

I heard they already had over 2 Million $ debts they have to pay. For lawyer marketing and so on.

So I guess they really need the money, it's not an investment for them. They need this money to keep everything running for now.
Well it was stupid move from people that support both BTC and Etherum making so big IPO in bitcoins as it has been more than clear that it will have to be dumped someday and that i will really crash the price.
Even thought etherum should respect a bitcoin too as it was the first cryptocurrency and on other hand they maybe really needed to pay some debts cuz if they would want to, they could dump way more and make price go down way more also.
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That man was a disaster! Western civilizations downfall is partly this mans fault.

The more I think about it, the more I cannot find a single modern nightmare problem that Richard Nixon did not have a gigantic hand in. Although I do agree, Churchhill is a huge racist imperialist dick.

Well, there are worse leaders:



the west used and screwed these guys too... hence the hermit(ness)
They were the ones that invaded the south and their society is so hell bent on staying closed to outside information, they constantly blame their ills on an imperial west which we are. They'd be in even worse shape w/o their markets where smugglers bring in foreign products allowing the matriarchs to put food on the table through sales.

Oh yeah they are a mess now, and have been full of shit for sometime...not denying that... it is dark..

But....the history is not as simple as you may think though.... if you look at the history we (the west) used the Koreans as bargaining chips first with the Japanese and then with the Russians... the consequences were dire for the people of korea, and did not address their needs for liberty or democracy, and infact the people the west supported were the very people that the koreans themselves needed rid off... but the pay off for the west was too great and we betrayed the people of korea , and then the people of korea that helped fight the japanese and then we diddled them a second time with the russians, and that turned into what was in reality really another front for the proxy war in the cold war between the US and the Ruskis. So really it was more the Russians and Chinese that did the invading of the south, and the south was never really made up of or ruled by people that had the best interests of the koreans, but actually the Japanese..who still influence the south... basically the place was used as a pawn with zero regard for the people that actually lived there, and the people ,particularly of the north paid dire dire dire consequences...by the millions, and the misery still continues today....  I do not think there is a lot of trust floating around that part of the world, and they are certainly messed up, but the route that got us to here today is far from being blameless on the "wests" part (edit:nor the Japanese, the Russians, or even the Chinese, all of them have just used and abused both s and n korea) nor as obscure and hard to understand as some make out...  history has repeated itself over and over again in that betrayals on this level, from the british, the french, the americans etc , has caused severe humanitarian crisis and long lasting political upheaval and divisions, that were considered at the time a fair price to pay to achieve the outcomes that were desired.. often however history has infact proven that those considerations were short sighted and highly selfish... and the reactions of the politicians that have followed over the decades has failed to address or acknowledge, or make any attempt at mitigating any problems... far from it.. now these places, we pour more oil onto the fire and every now and then wheel them out as the boogie men, the evil wrongdoers, the axis of evil etc etc..  Much like human interference with natural ecosystems there are ramifications and consequences..... these
consequences and causes have been , and still are generally swiped under the carpet.  



 
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