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Author Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion  (Read 26390812 times)
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October 16, 2014, 11:12:26 PM

Ah! I had to verify in stamp today  Angry
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October 16, 2014, 11:12:37 PM

Huobi bids just got interesting.
WTF. Front running the Bitstamp criminals? Are the Chinese that cunning?
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October 16, 2014, 11:13:33 PM

HUOBI, our lord and savior
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October 16, 2014, 11:15:13 PM

Fascinating.  There and gone.  Thomas, what do you know?
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October 16, 2014, 11:16:19 PM

Fascinating.  There and gone.  Thomas, what do you know?

Still there. Tick tock, stamp criminals. 28 days, and the price gets steeper every day!
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October 16, 2014, 11:18:14 PM

What if tomorrow there are <10k BTC in asks because the criminals and anarchists all withdrew?

I am NOT sure if I understand this situation sufficiently in layman's terms. 

Does the Bitstamp announcement mean that after 28 days, everyone participating with Bitstamp will have verified accounts? 

And before the 28 days are concluded, Bitstamp account holders can withdraw their funds from Bitstamp or do those accounts just get frozen (seized) in the event that the accounts do NOT get verified?  I was of the expectation that funds could NOT be withdrawn from non-verified Bitstamp accounts, is that not correct?
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October 16, 2014, 11:20:37 PM

Fascinating.  There and gone.  Thomas, what do you know?


Maybe it was a market buy that should have been a market sell  Cheesy
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October 16, 2014, 11:21:19 PM

I am NOT sure if I understand this situation sufficiently in layman's terms. 

Does the Bitstamp announcement mean that after 28 days, everyone participating with Bitstamp will have verified accounts? 

And before the 28 days are concluded, Bitstamp account holders can withdraw their funds from Bitstamp or do those accounts just get frozen (seized) in the event that the accounts do NOT get verified?  I was of the expectation that funds could NOT be withdrawn from non-verified Bitstamp accounts, is that not correct?
I don't know, it just sounds good. Facts aren't really important when it's perception that creates reality.



May or may not be bull FUD.
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October 16, 2014, 11:21:37 PM

Huobi bids just got interesting.
WTF. Front running the Bitstamp criminals? Are the Chinese that cunning?

don't underestimate the triads  Grin

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October 16, 2014, 11:22:33 PM

Huobi is STILL stacking up the green. 
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October 16, 2014, 11:22:41 PM

What if tomorrow there are <10k BTC in asks because the criminals and anarchists all withdrew?

I am NOT sure if I understand this situation sufficiently in layman's terms. 

Does the Bitstamp announcement mean that after 28 days, everyone participating with Bitstamp will have verified accounts? 

And before the 28 days are concluded, Bitstamp account holders can withdraw their funds from Bitstamp or do those accounts just get frozen (seized) in the event that the accounts do NOT get verified?  I was of the expectation that funds could NOT be withdrawn from non-verified Bitstamp accounts, is that not correct?

so many questions, so little time.

someone said it use to be you had to be verified to withdraw even bitcoin, but not anymore ( i guess they wanted to cover their ass while the laws we're clear )
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October 16, 2014, 11:24:08 PM

Look at it this way: If you create enough FUD, you can make the criminals believe that they need to be in BTC and thus that they need to convert all fiat balances. Whether or not they can withdraw is only secondary to the topic of price. Never forget, perception makes reality, that's the reason why companies spend shittons on marketing.

Convert to BTC or enjoy getting all your illegal money collected by the state!
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October 16, 2014, 11:30:33 PM

someone said it use to be you had to be verified to withdraw even bitcoin, but not anymore ( i guess they wanted to cover their ass while the laws we're clear )

in any case its probably a lot easier to send in some fake ID to get verified at stamps and withdraw bitcoin then it is to fake a bank account and withdraw fiat.

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October 16, 2014, 11:30:39 PM

Bitstamp bears looking at Huobi like ".....fuck"
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October 16, 2014, 11:31:40 PM

someone said it use to be you had to be verified to withdraw even bitcoin, but not anymore ( i guess they wanted to cover their ass while the laws we're clear )

in any case its probably a lot easier to send in some fake ID to get verified at stamps and withdraw bitcoin then it is to fake a bank account and withdraw fiat.


Good point. BTC is the criminal's first choice in either case.

BTW, what if a lot of the downwards pressure has come from stolen MtGox coins being sold off? If that was the case, wouldn't it cease now?
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October 16, 2014, 11:33:18 PM

What if the 30k bearwhale wasn't even verified? What's he going to do with all this useless Bitstamp IOU fiat? Shocked Shocked Shocked

Yeah, what if?   Shocked    Do those questions fit the definition of FUD or acceptable speculations?  inference upon inference upon inference?  OMG?   Tongue
It's about time someone take it into his hands to combat the Shroomsy FUD by posting some good bullish FUD.

You better watch out, because some posters here believe that bulltrolls are the same as beartrolls (merely opposites)...   

You may subscribe to that same belief, since you are striving to balance out the doggie-bird, but I would argue that the birdie-dog cannot be balanced.. NO matter what you attempt the doggie-bird will find a way, by hook or by crook, to undermine you. 
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October 16, 2014, 11:36:41 PM

I don't think there is as many criminals on stamp as you think.  If you were a criminal where would you sell?

BTC-E and local bitcoins are probably best. I dont think many criminals are hoarding much coin either as they have expenses to pay, unless they got lucky on the run up. I suspect most criminals aren't into BTC for the technology but rather the means of payment. The last 6 months has probably had most of them running for the hills
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October 16, 2014, 11:37:23 PM

Also, it looks like that wall is real
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October 16, 2014, 11:38:07 PM

You better watch out, because some posters here believe that bulltrolls are the same as beartrolls (merely opposites)...   
It's definitely not the same thing. If I post highly speculative stuff that is bearish, usually I'll get insulted left and right. If I do it in bullish, noone will give a shit and some will approve. Cheesy

I don't think there is as many criminals on stamp as you think.  If you were a criminal where would you sell?

BTC-E and local bitcoins are probably best. I dont think many criminals are hoarding much coin either as they have expenses to pay, unless they got lucky on the run up. I suspect most criminals aren't into BTC for the technology but rather the means of payment. The last 6 months has probably had most of them running for the hills
Yes, I'm sure BTC-E is the preferred avenue. I don't know how many funds on Bitstamp the criminals control, but the criminals themselves don't know that either, and neither do the other buyers who may wish to front run them. See what I'm getting at?
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