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[GreekGeek]

Happy New Year!!!!!!

[pixl8tr]

Happy New Year!       2015 Rally FOR BTC!   

[fichtn12345]

Happy New Year!!! dumpers, bulls and the rest of the bitches!

新年快乐 bitches 

[jertsy]

Happy new year

[marcus_of_augustus]

so bitcoin ETF for the new year it seems then.

Ya. Wall Street will save us

no, wall st. will save themselves ... just happens we built the liferafts and are selling the boarding passes

greed and fear, we'll shove it right back down their throats

I think you underestimate Wall Street. Unlike most Bitcoiners, they know a pump and dump problem when they see it and have regulations in place to mitigate the damage

hahaha wall st. has regulations to deal with pump 'n dumps!

like MBIA, MBS, CDO's and Treasury Bonds I guess you mean?

you're a comedian right?

[fichtn12345]

Happy new year

Happy new year!

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

so bitcoin ETF for the new year it seems then.

Ya. Wall Street will save us

no, wall st. will save themselves ... just happens we built the liferafts and are selling the boarding passes

greed and fear, we'll shove it right back down their throats

I think you underestimate Wall Street. Unlike most Bitcoiners, they know a pump and dump problem when they see it and have regulations in place to mitigate the damage

hahaha wall st. has regulations to deal with pump 'n dumps!

like MBIA, MBS, CDO's and Treasury Bonds I guess you mean?

you're a comedian right?

Like, for example the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. This is post-financial crisis

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[explorer]

so bitcoin ETF for the new year it seems then.

Ya. Wall Street will save us

no, wall st. will save themselves ... just happens we built the liferafts and are selling the boarding passes

greed and fear, we'll shove it right back down their throats

I think you underestimate Wall Street. Unlike most Bitcoiners, they know a pump and dump problem when they see it and have regulations in place to mitigate the damage

hahaha wall st. has regulations to deal with pump 'n dumps!

like MBIA, MBS, CDO's and Treasury Bonds I guess you mean?

you're a comedian right?

Like, for example the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. This is post-financial crisis

Oh, the one gutted, essentially repealed recently.

[Wekkel]

Happy new year everyone. Price is strong today

May the force be with you, my son...

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

so bitcoin ETF for the new year it seems then.

Ya. Wall Street will save us

no, wall st. will save themselves ... just happens we built the liferafts and are selling the boarding passes

greed and fear, we'll shove it right back down their throats

I think you underestimate Wall Street. Unlike most Bitcoiners, they know a pump and dump problem when they see it and have regulations in place to mitigate the damage

hahaha wall st. has regulations to deal with pump 'n dumps!

like MBIA, MBS, CDO's and Treasury Bonds I guess you mean?

you're a comedian right?

Like, for example the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. This is post-financial crisis

Oh, the one gutted, essentially repealed recently.

Just an example of society trying to protect itself. How many people have to be financially knee-capped before ethically-minded early adopters come to terms with the pump and dump Bitcoin is by nature?

[marcus_of_augustus]

so bitcoin ETF for the new year it seems then.

Ya. Wall Street will save us

no, wall st. will save themselves ... just happens we built the liferafts and are selling the boarding passes

greed and fear, we'll shove it right back down their throats

I think you underestimate Wall Street. Unlike most Bitcoiners, they know a pump and dump problem when they see it and have regulations in place to mitigate the damage

hahaha wall st. has regulations to deal with pump 'n dumps!

like MBIA, MBS, CDO's and Treasury Bonds I guess you mean?

you're a comedian right?

Like, for example the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act. This is post-financial crisis

like no-one gets prosecuted for GS "ripping the faces off the muppets"??

or for the Fed. Res. blatantly ignroing wrong-doing and firing anyone on the inside for questioning GS accounting and legal practices??

like congress amending GAAP laws for mark-to-model so that technically insolvent corporations and the criminal CEO's operating them can be kept 'above' the law'??

the place is soooo rotten and corrupted it is beyond help, wake up fossils that sucker is going down and you do not want to be a part of it ... wall st. insiders have been heading for the exits and making plans like busy little rats

regulation and laws are meaningless when the actors behave above the law and the regulators/enforcers are bought and paid for, you are pissing into the hurricane with Dodd-Frank (both of whom were irrevocably compromised by wall st. funding btw)

Wall st. is beyond help, the only thing that will change them is a truly better technology that makes them obsolete ...  that's why they hate bitcoin and spew their vitriol ... it is also why they WILL adopt.

[JimboToronto]

Happy New Year (UTC) Bitcoinland.

Nice to see a tiny upswing at the end of the old year.

Catch you all later. Gotta be onstage in less than 2 hours.

Definitely gonna check the prices through the evening.

Cheers.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Just an example of society trying to protect itself. How many people have to be financially knee-capped before ethically-minded early adopters come to terms with the pump and dump Bitcoin is by nature?

basically you are an apologist for the myriad of wall st. crimes and you hate bitcoin because it is sound money ... ok thanks for telling us, now you can piss off.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Once again rumors of the death of cryptocurrency will prove unfounded. In an era where politicians and management consultants alike spout an obsession with ‘innovation,’ alas they tend to turn skeptical as soon as a genuinely new way of doing anything is staring them in the face! With so many analogue legacy stakeholders eager to continue exploiting the currency status quo, unsurprisingly the arrival of a genuinely revolutionary upheaval in money is viewed with suspicion amongst those with so much to lose. Bankers (both central and ‘commercial’), politicians and large corporations tend to regard Bitcoin as a nasty inconvenience to their self-interested pork barrel approach to prosperity.

The problem for legacy players is that price is only one aspect of the complex bitcoin equation. Besides, the big business/big government nexus is poor at process innovation - as those who watched them endeavor to ignore or belittle the initial rise of the internet itself can readily attest.

http://rt.com/op-edge/218915-bitcoin-cryptocurrency-revolution-innovation/

[JayJuanGee]

Alright, I think it's safe to say now that the bears won in 2014.
Re-match begins tomorrow. The bulls are ready for some payback!

Yep... 2014... a good year for BTC bears.  

2015 is another year, and only time will tell regarding results.

I would be quite surprised if we get another bear year in 2015, but I would NOT be so surprised if 2015 has mixed results that tend towards bullish results.

It would be nice, however, if 2015 could generate another bubble year - preferably in the first half of the year... yet us BTC enthusiasts should be prepared to wait out the totality of the year, if necessary and HODL, HODL, HODL.... and BUYDL, BUYDL, BUYDL.

 

Depends how you look at it. Through 2014 we managed to stay above the pre-November-bubble high and stayed well above what the value was for most of 2013. If you look at the 2 year chart on Bitcoinity, if anything we've been too high through 2014 and taking our time to get back to the proper level. We appear to be there now though and 2015 will be the real fight.

I'm not saying it couldn't have been better and for many people, it was undoubtedly a bad year but for Bitcoin, it wasn't that bad.

I think that you make a lot of good points, Richy T... ; however, at the same time, I believe that there is a considerable amount of upside potential for BTC prices in the near future (although I have been making those kinds of assertions throughout 2014).  In any event, there have been a lot of positive developments in the bitcoin infrastructure over the past year. 

Accordingly, it seems very plausible that BTC is going to experiences at least one or two more exponentially upward price surges (maybe in the 5x to 20x territory) in the coming years - whether such an upward price surge occurs in 2015 remains a point of speculation, at this point.

At this current price point, I am fairly optimistic that 2x to 2.5x price increase is very likely to occur in 2015; however, I believe if prices go beyond a 2.5x price increase, then it seems very likely that prices will shoot past the previous ATH into the $3k to $9k territory... just my own personal sense of the BTC market dynamics.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Just an example of society trying to protect itself. How many people have to be financially knee-capped before ethically-minded early adopters come to terms with the pump and dump Bitcoin is by nature?

basically you are an apologist for the myriad of wall st. crimes and you hate bitcoin because it is sound money ... ok thanks for telling us, now you can piss off.

DUDE! Hold the phone. I have no love for Wall Street OR myopic Libertarians whose heart would be broken if they knew Ayn Rand lived on Social Security for 8 years. I believe consumer protection is important. That's all

Edit: maybe this was a general statement directed at ethically-minded early adopters. If that's not you, then you kindly piss off. Jack!

Post-Edit: you were the one to bring up the ETF in the first place!

[marcus_of_augustus]

Just an example of society trying to protect itself. How many people have to be financially knee-capped before ethically-minded early adopters come to terms with the pump and dump Bitcoin is by nature?

basically you are an apologist for the myriad of wall st. crimes and you hate bitcoin because it is sound money ... ok thanks for telling us, now you can piss off.

DUDE! Hold the phone. I have no love for Wall Street OR myopic Libertarians whose heart would be broken if they knew Ayn Rand lived on Social Security for 8 years. I believe consumer protection is important. That's all

Edit: maybe this was a general statement directed at ethically-minded early adopters. If that's not you, then you kindly piss off. Jack!

'consumer protection' is just another racket foisted onto unsuspecting public by grifters through beholden politcians and bureaucrats who love any excuse to stick their nose (and money-sucking funnels) into your business ... can't believe people like you still naively think anything to do with government is actually helpful after all the evidence that has now been presented in the public domain by the Internet (yeah that thing they keep trying to coopt, twist and shut-down)

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

Just an example of society trying to protect itself. How many people have to be financially knee-capped before ethically-minded early adopters come to terms with the pump and dump Bitcoin is by nature?

basically you are an apologist for the myriad of wall st. crimes and you hate bitcoin because it is sound money ... ok thanks for telling us, now you can piss off.

DUDE! Hold the phone. I have no love for Wall Street OR myopic Libertarians whose heart would be broken if they knew Ayn Rand lived on Social Security for 8 years. I believe consumer protection is important. That's all

Edit: maybe this was a general statement directed at ethically-minded early adopters. If that's not you, then you kindly piss off. Jack!

'consumer protection' is just another racket foisted onto unsuspecting public by grifters through beholden politcians and bureaucrats who love any excuse to stick their nose (and money-sucking funnels) into your business ... can't believe people like you still naively think anything to do with government is actually helpful after all the evidence that has now been presented in the public domain by the Internet (yeah that thing they keep trying to coopt, twist and shut-down)

So no safeguards, no social safety nets? Winners take all?

[Son0fLamb]

regulation and laws are meaningless when the actors behave above the law and the regulators/enforcers are bought and paid for, you are pissing into the hurricane with Dodd-Frank (both of whom were irrevocably compromised by wall st. funding btw)

Wall st. is beyond help, the only thing that will change them is a truly better technology that makes them obsolete ...  that's why they hate bitcoin and spew their vitriol ... it is also why they WILL adopt.

Lol, You're talking about securities?  Let's see, the foremost bitcoin securities exchange, Havelock Investments, had dozens of "securities" listed throughout its existence.  At this point, all but one are showing spectacular loss (the one that is not yet showing loss is a cloudmining contract, so give it another month).  And that's the ones that didn't simply run away with their marks' investment enthusiasts' coins.

TL;DR: bitcoin's equivalent of Wall St. is 100% scam and theft, impossible to surpass or even match by the crookedest IRL exchange.  
Surprised by the dearth of knowledge, marcus_of_augustus, you've been around long enough to know better

Edit:  Of course, if we're talking financial services, there's Pirate@40, Nefario, TradeFortress, Ukyo, Cryptocypruss (Neo Bee Danny), Gox Mark and so on.  Not just scamming you, buddy, simply taking your coins and waving se ya