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March 13, 2017, 01:43:48 PM
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Hoping somebody can help me out so I can have my expectations correct.  Assuming Iconomi generates $1 Mill in profits what would the payout per ICN be?

Is it 20% of $1 Mill = $200k
Then ICN shares cap is 87 mill (correct?) so..
$200k / 87 million (shares) = 0.00229

so 1 ICN = $0.00229 if Iconomi generates $1 mill in profits?

Making 10,000 ICN $22.99 in realized returns per year?  

Also, is profit actually profit.  What I mean is: Does Iconomi consider profit the amount after paying for employees, renting the office, expenses, etc.?  I asking because if Iconomi generates $1million in revenue, after expenses the true profit is much less.

Again, just hoping to make sure expectations or in the right place and seeing how much to invest.  Love the team, love the idea, hope to love the returns.

-AJ

They will use the money raised in ico to pay all expenses for first ~5 years

ICN gets these fees:

1) 20% performance fee from ICNP taken from realized profits
2) 3% management fee from ICNX taken regardless of profit/loss
3) 0.3% to 3% management fee from user-created arrays depending on if user sets the total fee at 1% to 10%
4) any fees generated by fiat gateway

The fees generated by 2), 3), and 4) are not based on performance, but rather the amount of assets deposited into the arrays and the trade volume of the fiat gateway

A conservative example:

1) ICNP generates $1 million profit in a year = $200k to ICN
2) ICNX holds on average $10 million in assets for a year = $300k to ICN
3) user-created arrays hold on average $5 million in assets for a year = $15k to $150k to ICN
4) fiat gateway does $5 million volume in a year = maybe 1% fee so $50k to ICN (maybe they will set this at 0% fee to begin with in order to build volume)

I'm not sure if the fees on user-created arrays were fully explained yet.  I assumed it's a management fee like ICNX, but maybe there is a possibility for user-created performance arrays that take a performance fee.

ICN lives on the same exchanges and in the same wallets as altcoins, most of which have 0 earnings.  ICN price will largely be based on speculation.  Dividends is just the icing on the cake.

Thanks for the input.  So using those numbers now:  $200k + $300k + $50k (conservative) + $50k = $600k. And 100mil not 87 mil.  We arrive at $0.006 per ICN.  Making a 10,000 ICN investment $60.  This would mean dividends would yield a 2% return, which is good imo compared to traditional investments.  The real money is the value of ICN it would seem.

I believe the user created arrays will take some time to generate a sizable load.  On the flip side, I can see ICNX generating >$100mill under management once it passes the tipping point.  Passive investments are where everybody seems to be putting their money. 

Will be very fun to watch Iconomi develop in the next few years. 
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March 13, 2017, 02:00:36 PM
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ICN below DOGE on market cap.

Yay!

Cheesy
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March 13, 2017, 02:28:22 PM
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Will ICN returned to 30k satoshi? Roll Eyes

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March 13, 2017, 03:26:25 PM
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ICN below DOGE on market cap.

Yay!

Cheesy


If someone will trade ICN aganist DOGE that had last github update in 2015... is loosing mind IMO.

Will ICN returned to 30k satoshi? Roll Eyes

Never man ; )
Did last time when BTC crashed ICN went from 21k to 29k in hour ?
I think that at some point even speculators will come to ICN.
Don't worry ICN is on radar IMO.

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March 13, 2017, 03:27:09 PM
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Why the fuck all other coins pumping while ICN still shitty 30k ?
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March 13, 2017, 03:32:06 PM
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Why ppl continue to dump their ICN ? Welle i like the volume i only make more icn with daily trading.. but why ?? Shocked

Now is only 16th, lol, it was 11th weeks ago, what happen? Other altcoins are going up, but ICN is going down.  Cheesy
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March 13, 2017, 03:33:32 PM
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the high price of icn in a few month ago is 51k, (correct me if I am wrong)
It seems difficult to go back to high price that.

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March 13, 2017, 03:34:56 PM
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Why the fuck all other coins pumping while ICN still shitty 30k ?

How much DEVs delivered ?
How much dividends were payed ?
...
i guess people and speculators need to see some results i will wait and price rebalance will come.

the high price of icn in a few month ago is 51k, (correct me if I am wrong)
It seems difficult to go back to high price that.

People were betting platform release but that did not happened so it went from 50k to ICO price again.
But other ICOs are in 50% BTC price right now ^^


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March 13, 2017, 03:36:21 PM
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Literally the shittiest stock out there, everything else is +20% today, ICONOMI is -7%
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March 13, 2017, 03:39:27 PM
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Literally the shittiest stock out there, everything else is +20% today, ICONOMI is -7%

look at recent ICOs and tell which is above BTC ICO price ? hmmmmmmm only ICONOMI ?

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March 13, 2017, 03:48:11 PM
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Literally the shittiest stock out there, everything else is +20% today, ICONOMI is -7%

Then sell and go buy some Doge or other shitcoin. You are apparently looking for some pump and dump crap. In that case, you are in a wrong place.
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March 13, 2017, 03:48:53 PM
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Literally the shittiest stock out there, everything else is +20% today, ICONOMI is -7%

ICONOMI is a long term project... if you are looking for pump & dump shitcoin go to Poloniex and buy a random coin.

Nothing! Nothing! Nothing! Selling Nothing for only 1.99 ICN
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March 13, 2017, 03:53:14 PM
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who dfk cares about the price if all the plattforms arent even out yet lol, if you bought and cry about the current price you should prob. stop investing in anything

 
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March 13, 2017, 04:44:39 PM
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Someone transferred about 700,000 tokens last night to Kraken out of his 1.5 million stash and is dumping.

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0xcf40d0d2b44f2b66e07cace1372ca42b73cf21a3

things are about to get choppy
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March 13, 2017, 06:40:43 PM
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Someone transferred about 700,000 tokens last night to Kraken out of his 1.5 million stash and is dumping.

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0xcf40d0d2b44f2b66e07cace1372ca42b73cf21a3

things are about to get choppy
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At the link you gave there is no ~700k ICN transaction in the last 3 days. Are you sure you saw it right ?
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March 13, 2017, 06:48:45 PM
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Someone transferred about 700,000 tokens last night to Kraken out of his 1.5 million stash and is dumping.

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0xcf40d0d2b44f2b66e07cace1372ca42b73cf21a3

things are about to get choppy
HODL!

At the link you gave there is no ~700k ICN transaction in the last 3 days. Are you sure you saw it right ?

Not all at once... I think he means this address:

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0x2ccc5a059a1bda4c3c3c594516e812a0b15799c9
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March 13, 2017, 06:59:50 PM
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Someone transferred about 700,000 tokens last night to Kraken out of his 1.5 million stash and is dumping.

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0xcf40d0d2b44f2b66e07cace1372ca42b73cf21a3

things are about to get choppy
HODL!

At the link you gave there is no ~700k ICN transaction in the last 3 days. Are you sure you saw it right ?

Not all at once... I think he means this address:

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0x2ccc5a059a1bda4c3c3c594516e812a0b15799c9

 the first one really dump'd some ICN in less time.seems a whale to me..
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March 13, 2017, 07:06:55 PM
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Someone transferred about 700,000 tokens last night to Kraken out of his 1.5 million stash and is dumping.

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0xcf40d0d2b44f2b66e07cace1372ca42b73cf21a3

things are about to get choppy
HODL!

At the link you gave there is no ~700k ICN transaction in the last 3 days. Are you sure you saw it right ?

Not all at once... I think he means this address:

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0x2ccc5a059a1bda4c3c3c594516e812a0b15799c9

 the first one really dump'd some ICN in less time.seems a whale to me..

doesn't really matter too much who dumped and who accumulated. More dump from whales now --> better distribution
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March 13, 2017, 07:19:52 PM
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Someone transferred about 700,000 tokens last night to Kraken out of his 1.5 million stash and is dumping.

https://etherscan.io/token/ICONOMI?a=0xcf40d0d2b44f2b66e07cace1372ca42b73cf21a3

things are about to get choppy
HODL!

What is the use of sending so many random sized transactions and not just one big or a few bigger transactions?

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March 13, 2017, 07:42:13 PM
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What is the use of sending so many random sized transactions and not just one big or a few bigger transactions?

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