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October 13, 2018, 02:37:37 PM
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Patience? Lol. More than year I patientlly wait when I can use my coins freezed on Cryptopia. And still waiting patiently, when those who had coins in their wallet skim the cream off.

As to me, there is no cream to speak about... I don't know about masternodes (assume they are earning well), but staking does not give me any reward at all - not a single stake for several days with wallet opened 24/7 and well-connected. The amount is not big (less than 1000 HLM), so I don't expect much, but zero reward (just one orphan stake during 5-6 days) show that earning estimations on the explorer website are completely false (they suggest 3-10 HLM daily by staking with my amount)..

I assume all rewards are going to big stakers, with smaller ones getting nothing - nowhere near values shown at calculator. Bad implementation of PoS, or bug in calculator?

EDIT: just checked once again - bingo!!! I got one stake finally! 2.5 HLM after staking for 5-6 days. Still pathetic, compared to calculator values...

Calculator on heliumchain.info calculates only the masternode rewards which are correct. With 1000 HLM you would expect to see an average of 1 stake in 24 hours. It's a lottery though so going 5-6 days without a reward could easily be the case with some bad luck.

Well, yes probably is calculates MN results correctly. But it claims to calculate PoS rewards too, but shows false results.

Checked it again - yes, looks like it just has a simple stupid bug - in fact it always shows exactly the same rewards for MN and staking. For example if I enter 1000 HLM and indicate I have 1 masternode with them, it shows 162.6479 monthly rewards; if I indicate I have no masternode, but am just staking, it still shows 162.6479 monthly, but as a staking reward.

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October 13, 2018, 06:34:37 PM
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Patience? Lol. More than year I patientlly wait when I can use my coins freezed on Cryptopia. And still waiting patiently, when those who had coins in their wallet skim the cream off.

As to me, there is no cream to speak about... I don't know about masternodes (assume they are earning well), but staking does not give me any reward at all - not a single stake for several days with wallet opened 24/7 and well-connected. The amount is not big (less than 1000 HLM), so I don't expect much, but zero reward (just one orphan stake during 5-6 days) show that earning estimations on the explorer website are completely false (they suggest 3-10 HLM daily by staking with my amount)..

I assume all rewards are going to big stakers, with smaller ones getting nothing - nowhere near values shown at calculator. Bad implementation of PoS, or bug in calculator?

EDIT: just checked once again - bingo!!! I got one stake finally! 2.5 HLM after staking for 5-6 days. Still pathetic, compared to calculator values...

Calculator on heliumchain.info calculates only the masternode rewards which are correct. With 1000 HLM you would expect to see an average of 1 stake in 24 hours. It's a lottery though so going 5-6 days without a reward could easily be the case with some bad luck.

Well, yes probably is calculates MN results correctly. But it claims to calculate PoS rewards too, but shows false results.

Checked it again - yes, looks like it just has a simple stupid bug - in fact it always shows exactly the same rewards for MN and staking. For example if I enter 1000 HLM and indicate I have 1 masternode with them, it shows 162.6479 monthly rewards; if I indicate I have no masternode, but am just staking, it still shows 162.6479 monthly, but as a staking reward.

Yep, sorry for that. I have to update the code when I have time.
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October 13, 2018, 07:19:12 PM
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HLM coin without Exchange SmileySmiley

here everything lasts for years

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October 14, 2018, 01:07:10 PM
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Anyone got link to download wallet
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October 14, 2018, 01:10:04 PM
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found it. is there any plan for 1 click masternode? maybe use gin platform
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October 14, 2018, 04:52:55 PM
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We are pleased to announce that Dr Dimitris Antoniadis will be joining the project team to focus on pilot delivery and governance.

Dimitris is highly respected within the construction sector, with particular expertise in delivery of complex projects. He has provided a profile summary:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xc3ie9q7lwt8gxt/Antoniadis_Publications_v01.pdf?dl=0

Following the last update, see below, the pilot work has now started with active input from several core members including SAP, Arup, TATA, Scan Computers / Ebb3 and others.

As the pilot expands out, all participants will be asked to sign a cooperation agreement which will cover a number of legal issues such as all intellectual property being open source, NDA arrangements between members to share sensitive information which may be necessary to facilitate the pilot and agreement around public representations such as press statements. Lawyers who have been giving input into the smart contracts workshops that took place earlier in the year, will be helping to draft the cooperation agreement.


While the immediate next stages of the development work are focused on process clarification around our draft white paper, a number of pilot participants are actively looking at how the work coming out of the pilot will impact real world deployment within their businesses and how they can begin to mobilize internally to yield the many benefits of blockchains and smart contracts.  This is an exciting aspect of our project as we move from having gained the trust and confidence of our partners based around listening to them and sketching out solutions, through to implementation.
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October 14, 2018, 07:08:42 PM
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We are pleased to announce that Dr Dimitris Antoniadis will be joining the project team to focus on pilot delivery and governance.

Dimitris is highly respected within the construction sector, with particular expertise in delivery of complex projects. He has provided a profile summary:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xc3ie9q7lwt8gxt/Antoniadis_Publications_v01.pdf?dl=0 ...


@coins101 I was looking at the Helium leadership team at https://heliumchain.org/team/ and I don't see your profile as part of the leadership.  What is your official capacity at Helium?  I see the CCO is responsible for community so don't understand where you fit into the scheme of things (unless you're the CCO and I missed that).  Perhaps you're the CMO as you're making new announcements?
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October 14, 2018, 08:36:12 PM
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We are pleased to announce that Dr Dimitris Antoniadis will be joining the project team to focus on pilot delivery and governance.

Dimitris is highly respected within the construction sector, with particular expertise in delivery of complex projects. He has provided a profile summary:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xc3ie9q7lwt8gxt/Antoniadis_Publications_v01.pdf?dl=0 ...


@coins101 I was looking at the Helium leadership team at https://heliumchain.org/team/ and I don't see your profile as part of the leadership.  What is your official capacity at Helium?  I see the CCO is responsible for community so don't understand where you fit into the scheme of things (unless you're the CCO and I missed that).  Perhaps you're the CMO as you're making new announcements?

He is the co-founder / CTO
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October 15, 2018, 12:20:46 AM
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We are pleased to announce that Dr Dimitris Antoniadis will be joining the project team to focus on pilot delivery and governance.

Dimitris is highly respected within the construction sector, with particular expertise in delivery of complex projects. He has provided a profile summary:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xc3ie9q7lwt8gxt/Antoniadis_Publications_v01.pdf?dl=0 ...


@coins101 I was looking at the Helium leadership team at https://heliumchain.org/team/ and I don't see your profile as part of the leadership.  What is your official capacity at Helium?  I see the CCO is responsible for community so don't understand where you fit into the scheme of things (unless you're the CCO and I missed that).  Perhaps you're the CMO as you're making new announcements?

He is the co-founder / CTO

I'm sure that's possible, but I can't establish that from any posts here at BTCTalk or anywhere.  Even on the Helium site everyone on the leadership team has a "mouseover" bio but the "co-founder / CTO" so that role and background is mysterious in itself.  Easy for coins101 to just re-state what you wrote.
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October 15, 2018, 12:44:50 AM
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We are pleased to announce that Dr Dimitris Antoniadis will be joining the project team to focus on pilot delivery and governance.

Dimitris is highly respected within the construction sector, with particular expertise in delivery of complex projects. He has provided a profile summary:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xc3ie9q7lwt8gxt/Antoniadis_Publications_v01.pdf?dl=0 ...


@coins101 I was looking at the Helium leadership team at https://heliumchain.org/team/ and I don't see your profile as part of the leadership.  What is your official capacity at Helium?  I see the CCO is responsible for community so don't understand where you fit into the scheme of things (unless you're the CCO and I missed that).  Perhaps you're the CMO as you're making new announcements?

He is the co-founder / CTO

I'm sure that's possible, but I can't establish that from any posts here at BTCTalk or anywhere.  Even on the Helium site everyone on the leadership team has a "mouseover" bio but the "co-founder / CTO" so that role and background is mysterious in itself.  Easy for coins101 to just re-state what you wrote.

coins101's involvement with helium is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, rolled up in a sleeping bag sucking cones through a wizard bong, battered in a year long sickie, deep fried in a lazy Sunday afternoon on the couch. Best to consider him as someone from the past, and not rely on him for anything. If he delivers cool, but don't expect it, and don't expect any explanations. Helium did well without him.
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October 15, 2018, 12:40:49 PM
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Did anyone try a one wallet MN setup, instead of Hot-cold (local-remote) wallet setup as described in the tutorial?

I mean - try to run a masternode and control it using the one single hot wallet. That is a standard setup, which should be the simplest one... and it works on all other MN coins I have setup before.
Yesterday I spent hours trying to make it work - to no avail. It just throws stupid errors, like "Not capable masternode: cannot connect to x.x.x.x:9009", or just "Not capable masternode: " - without error description.
Gave up yesterday. Today moved the controlling part to the remote wallet - boom, it worked immediately.

So I suppose there is either a bug in HLM MN implementation (as the single hot wallet setup works for other MN coins); or an intended security limitation - it this case it should be documented, and the daemon should throw some meaningful error message - like "Not capable masternode: only local-remote setup is supported." or something better...

Just wanted to report this, in case if it's not widely known and discussed in slack/telegram/discord already Smiley

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October 15, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
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Did anyone try a one wallet MN setup, instead of Hot-cold (local-remote) wallet setup as described in the tutorial?

I mean - try to run a masternode and control it using the one single hot wallet. That is a standard setup, which should be the simplest one... and it works on all other MN coins I have setup before.
Yesterday I spent hours trying to make it work - to no avail. It just throws stupid errors, like "Not capable masternode: cannot connect to x.x.x.x:9009", or just "Not capable masternode: " - without error description.
Gave up yesterday. Today moved the controlling part to the remote wallet - boom, it worked immediately.

So I suppose there is either a bug in HLM MN implementation (as the single hot wallet setup works for other MN coins); or an intended security limitation - it this case it should be documented, and the daemon should throw some meaningful error message - like "Not capable masternode: only local-remote setup is supported." or something better...

Just wanted to report this, in case if it's not widely known and discussed in slack/telegram/discord already Smiley

I think this guide does that for windows machines: https://www.heliumlabs.org/v1.0/docs/masternode-setup-guide-windows-local

Its a setup up for running multiple MNs on one local machine (afaict, never used this set up). I don't think there is anything that prevents you from running a hot node. Haven't been able to test it yet though.
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October 15, 2018, 06:02:08 PM
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Did anyone try a one wallet MN setup, instead of Hot-cold (local-remote) wallet setup as described in the tutorial?

I mean - try to run a masternode and control it using the one single hot wallet. That is a standard setup, which should be the simplest one... and it works on all other MN coins I have setup before.
Yesterday I spent hours trying to make it work - to no avail. It just throws stupid errors, like "Not capable masternode: cannot connect to x.x.x.x:9009", or just "Not capable masternode: " - without error description.
Gave up yesterday. Today moved the controlling part to the remote wallet - boom, it worked immediately.

So I suppose there is either a bug in HLM MN implementation (as the single hot wallet setup works for other MN coins); or an intended security limitation - it this case it should be documented, and the daemon should throw some meaningful error message - like "Not capable masternode: only local-remote setup is supported." or something better...

Just wanted to report this, in case if it's not widely known and discussed in slack/telegram/discord already Smiley

I think this guide does that for windows machines: https://www.heliumlabs.org/v1.0/docs/masternode-setup-guide-windows-local

Its a setup up for running multiple MNs on one local machine (afaict, never used this set up). I don't think there is anything that prevents you from running a hot node. Haven't been able to test it yet though.

That setup uses dedicated controller wallet (albeit local), so it is different. I was using Linux, and. most importantly, I was trying to use a single wallet (single datadir etc) both as MN itself, and as controller. That setup could be interesting for smaller holders only, but well... smaller holders are the most important user category for real decentralization, so having this setup working is important too, IMHO.

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October 15, 2018, 06:21:00 PM
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Did anyone try a one wallet MN setup, instead of Hot-cold (local-remote) wallet setup as described in the tutorial?

I mean - try to run a masternode and control it using the one single hot wallet. That is a standard setup, which should be the simplest one... and it works on all other MN coins I have setup before.
Yesterday I spent hours trying to make it work - to no avail. It just throws stupid errors, like "Not capable masternode: cannot connect to x.x.x.x:9009", or just "Not capable masternode: " - without error description.
Gave up yesterday. Today moved the controlling part to the remote wallet - boom, it worked immediately.

So I suppose there is either a bug in HLM MN implementation (as the single hot wallet setup works for other MN coins); or an intended security limitation - it this case it should be documented, and the daemon should throw some meaningful error message - like "Not capable masternode: only local-remote setup is supported." or something better...

Just wanted to report this, in case if it's not widely known and discussed in slack/telegram/discord already Smiley

I think this guide does that for windows machines: https://www.heliumlabs.org/v1.0/docs/masternode-setup-guide-windows-local

Its a setup up for running multiple MNs on one local machine (afaict, never used this set up). I don't think there is anything that prevents you from running a hot node. Haven't been able to test it yet though.

That setup uses dedicated controller wallet (albeit local), so it is different. I was using Linux, and. most importantly, I was trying to use a single wallet (single datadir etc) both as MN itself, and as controller. That setup could be interesting for smaller holders only, but well... smaller holders are the most important user category for real decentralization, so having this setup working is important too, IMHO.

Do you have a static public IP?
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October 15, 2018, 06:33:15 PM
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More and more decentralized projects are coming into cryptos but it's good to see that the Helium made it with no obstacles and the work for the wallet is really amazing, you have good designers for sure.

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Did anyone try a one wallet MN setup, instead of Hot-cold (local-remote) wallet setup as described in the tutorial?

I mean - try to run a masternode and control it using the one single hot wallet. That is a standard setup, which should be the simplest one... and it works on all other MN coins I have setup before.
Yesterday I spent hours trying to make it work - to no avail. It just throws stupid errors, like "Not capable masternode: cannot connect to x.x.x.x:9009", or just "Not capable masternode: " - without error description.
Gave up yesterday. Today moved the controlling part to the remote wallet - boom, it worked immediately.

So I suppose there is either a bug in HLM MN implementation (as the single hot wallet setup works for other MN coins); or an intended security limitation - it this case it should be documented, and the daemon should throw some meaningful error message - like "Not capable masternode: only local-remote setup is supported." or something better...

Just wanted to report this, in case if it's not widely known and discussed in slack/telegram/discord already Smiley

I think this guide does that for windows machines: https://www.heliumlabs.org/v1.0/docs/masternode-setup-guide-windows-local

Its a setup up for running multiple MNs on one local machine (afaict, never used this set up). I don't think there is anything that prevents you from running a hot node. Haven't been able to test it yet though.

That setup uses dedicated controller wallet (albeit local), so it is different. I was using Linux, and. most importantly, I was trying to use a single wallet (single datadir etc) both as MN itself, and as controller. That setup could be interesting for smaller holders only, but well... smaller holders are the most important user category for real decentralization, so having this setup working is important too, IMHO.

Do you have a static public IP?

Yes, sure, I was doing that on a Linux VPS on Vultr. The "Not capable masternode: cannot connect to x.x.x.x:9009" statement made me wonder the most, as I checked and was able to telnet to that port ("telnet x.x.x.x 9009" on my machine).

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October 15, 2018, 07:27:41 PM
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currency without exchange Smiley
When Cryptopia ?

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October 15, 2018, 07:40:04 PM
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currency without exchange Smiley
When Cryptopia ?

I didn't know that CREX24 was not considered an exchange: https://crex24.com/exchange/HLM-BTC
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October 15, 2018, 11:17:19 PM
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Did anyone try a one wallet MN setup, instead of Hot-cold (local-remote) wallet setup as described in the tutorial?

I mean - try to run a masternode and control it using the one single hot wallet. That is a standard setup, which should be the simplest one... and it works on all other MN coins I have setup before.
Yesterday I spent hours trying to make it work - to no avail. It just throws stupid errors, like "Not capable masternode: cannot connect to x.x.x.x:9009", or just "Not capable masternode: " - without error description.
Gave up yesterday. Today moved the controlling part to the remote wallet - boom, it worked immediately.

So I suppose there is either a bug in HLM MN implementation (as the single hot wallet setup works for other MN coins); or an intended security limitation - it this case it should be documented, and the daemon should throw some meaningful error message - like "Not capable masternode: only local-remote setup is supported." or something better...

Just wanted to report this, in case if it's not widely known and discussed in slack/telegram/discord already Smiley

I think this guide does that for windows machines: https://www.heliumlabs.org/v1.0/docs/masternode-setup-guide-windows-local

Its a setup up for running multiple MNs on one local machine (afaict, never used this set up). I don't think there is anything that prevents you from running a hot node. Haven't been able to test it yet though.

That setup uses dedicated controller wallet (albeit local), so it is different. I was using Linux, and. most importantly, I was trying to use a single wallet (single datadir etc) both as MN itself, and as controller. That setup could be interesting for smaller holders only, but well... smaller holders are the most important user category for real decentralization, so having this setup working is important too, IMHO.

Do you have a static public IP?

Yes, sure, I was doing that on a Linux VPS on Vultr. The "Not capable masternode: cannot connect to x.x.x.x:9009" statement made me wonder the most, as I checked and was able to telnet to that port ("telnet x.x.x.x 9009" on my machine).

As said: nothing keeps you from running a hot node. And I haven't been able to check it. Soon as I can I'll tell you but then again: why run a hot node in the first place.
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How about you you write the fucking guide yourself instead of asking.

Not sure I get what you mean. And looks like you didn't understand what I was telling. I am asking neither for a guide, nor for a help. Neither a new guide for running a single hot wallet is needed (or possible) for me to write, as it doesn't seem to work currently (unless someone re-tests this and reports to be working somehow).
I just reported a possible issue with the MN implementation, which I found while trying to setup a hot MN wallet - just in case if this indeed a bug to be fixed, and just in case if it is interesting for developers and/or community. I do not insist on fixing this, neither am asking for your help or valuable advice, dear Mr. Mrrr (I am still a fan of your brilliant Haiku collection post, regardless of this particular outburst Smiley).


As said: nothing keeps you from running a hot node. And I haven't been able to check it. Soon as I can I'll tell you but then again: why run a hot node in the first place.
So better to tell - nothing but possible bugs Smiley
Regarding the reason for running a hot node... well, that is one of the possible ways to run it, and it is the most resource-friendly way if you run just one node (as you keep just one copy of blockchain + save CPU some power), so I assume there could be users willing to run that way. As to me, I am currently running the controller wallet separately on different PC, as this is the working way.

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