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April 29, 2018, 09:50:49 PM
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Thanks for information.

Don't think commit is bittrex, it looks totally like a snapshot taken in October for all address.

This is the Bittrex address list, different.

But see this link for the 3,600,000 address.

Again why do they and all other address from October 2017 get Helium? He all sold many moons ago, helium changed.
Helium should have 1 another snapshot as using the October snapshot is just retard and does not mirror the reality of ownership of real Spreadcoin distribution as of April 29 2018.

I buy many more spreadcoin still knowing the new team are not so stupid and will retake snapshot soon Cheesy


I can almost "confirm" you that there won't be another snapshot.

SpreadCoin was just a vehicle to have a more or less balanced distribution without having to comply with all the rules and procedures that an ICO carries, in addition to being able to attract all the SpreadCoin contributors that were still interested.

I can assume the 900,000+ wallet on bittrex is the largest holders with the 3,600,000 wallets.
Makes sense to hold 25% of balance to bittrex.
But thats is over 40% of proposed pre mined/snapshot.
So 40% going over to 1 or a group?

Also the 400,000k to the developers team, does not he already have too many if October snapshot is taken?
Such large premine which will give many coin to only so few.

They have had many costs during this year:
https://www.heliumlabs.org/docs/frequently-asked-questions#section-what-will-happen-to-that-432870-helium-

And the remaining amount of the Bittrex coins will be held in a 2/3 multisig wallet:
https://www.heliumlabs.org/docs/frequently-asked-questions#section-who-will-be-in-control-of-those-coins-
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April 29, 2018, 10:21:43 PM
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Thanks for information.

Don't think commit is bittrex, it looks totally like a snapshot taken in October for all address.

This is the Bittrex address list, different.

But see this link for the 3,600,000 address.

Again why do they and all other address from October 2017 get Helium? He all sold many moons ago, helium changed.
Helium should have 1 another snapshot as using the October snapshot is just retard and does not mirror the reality of ownership of real Spreadcoin distribution as of April 29 2018.

I buy many more spreadcoin still knowing the new team are not so stupid and will retake snapshot soon Cheesy


I can almost "confirm" you that there won't be another snapshot.

SpreadCoin was just a vehicle to have a more or less balanced distribution without having to comply with all the rules and procedures that an ICO carries, in addition to being able to attract all the SpreadCoin contributors that were still interested.

I can assume the 900,000+ wallet on bittrex is the largest holders with the 3,600,000 wallets.
Makes sense to hold 25% of balance to bittrex.
But thats is over 40% of proposed pre mined/snapshot.
So 40% going over to 1 or a group?

Also the 400,000k to the developers team, does not he already have too many if October snapshot is taken?
Such large premine which will give many coin to only so few.

They have had many costs during this year:
https://www.heliumlabs.org/docs/frequently-asked-questions#section-what-will-happen-to-that-432870-helium-

And the remaining amount of the Bittrex coins will be held in a 2/3 multisig wallet:
https://www.heliumlabs.org/docs/frequently-asked-questions#section-who-will-be-in-control-of-those-coins-


ohNoo that is not good for me now i must dump my Spreadcoin Sad

Sorry i misunderstand but 400,000 will be a developer fund? Then after that bittrex coin will also be in a 2/3 multisig?
How many Helium is that? According to this BITTREX ADDRESSES, that would equal around 3,500,000 Helium to the dev team?
Then 3,600,000 to the whale wallet (Which is the original pumpers, coins101 and others) We estimate 60% of all pre mined coins will go to 1 or few people.

Would this be correct?
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April 29, 2018, 11:46:39 PM
Last edit: April 29, 2018, 11:59:29 PM by RzeroD
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ohNoo that is not good for me now i must dump my Spreadcoin Sad

Sorry i misunderstand but 400,000 will be a developer fund? Then after that bittrex coin will also be in a 2/3 multisig?
How many Helium is that? According to this BITTREX ADDRESSES, that would equal around 3,500,000 Helium to the dev team?
Then 3,600,000 to the whale wallet (Which is the original pumpers, coins101 and others) We estimate 60% of all pre mined coins will go to 1 or few people.

Would this be correct?


Whops, Teela must have forgotten to change that in the FAQ. Forget the 430,000 SPR that the FAQ mentions.

The address with 3,600,000 SPR is from Cryptopia.
Bittrex only had about 750,000 SPR when the snapshot was made.
That list of addresses must be a recent one that Graham has taken from the block explorer to test the script.
You can check it here: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/spr/wallet.dws?170495.htm (History tab)

Of those 750,000 HLM the team will receive a part because they have been paying everything from their own pocket (developers, Cryptopia fee, networking expenses, etc).
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April 30, 2018, 12:01:32 AM
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How do Helium with 50-60% pre-mine of total supply be nothing other than a pump coin for few whales?
One ombre will hold 36% all available Helium and will have final say over pivx governance tool. How can this function with one person controlling 36% of all Helium?

This is a failed from start if team does not make new snapshot.
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April 30, 2018, 12:03:58 AM
Last edit: April 30, 2018, 12:16:30 AM by RzeroD
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How do Helium with 50-60% pre-mine of total supply be nothing other than a pump coin for few whales?
One ombre will hold 36% all available Helium and will have final say over pivx governance tool. How can this function with one person controlling 36% of all Helium?

This is a failed from start if team does not make new snapshot.

There is no premine and there is no one controlling 36% of the supply.
I have already told you ¬¬
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April 30, 2018, 12:17:38 AM
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How do Helium with 50-60% pre-mine of total supply be nothing other than a pump coin for few whales?
One ombre will hold 36% all available Helium and will have final say over pivx governance tool. How can this function with one person controlling 36% of all Helium?

This is a failed from start if team does not make new snapshot.

There is no premine. I told you ¬¬

But i mean the total amount being created
https://github.com/gjhiggins/diproton/commit/0412725e44367c80d20211f1840e70277f11df06

I think this is total amount created for testnet 9,234,000. And is proposed amount for mainnet right?

Is there a complete break down of the real amount if the Bittrex amounts in github is incorrect? Why would dev include this anyway?
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April 30, 2018, 12:24:43 AM
Last edit: April 30, 2018, 12:42:28 AM by rrolltoll
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How do Helium with 50-60% pre-mine of total supply be nothing other than a pump coin for few whales?
One ombre will hold 36% all available Helium and will have final say over pivx governance tool. How can this function with one person controlling 36% of all Helium?

This is a failed from start if team does not make new snapshot.

There is no premine and there is no one controlling 36% of the supply.
I have already told you ¬¬

We are not coding, we know only small but is very confusing.

https://ibb.co/fk14jH
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April 30, 2018, 12:39:51 AM
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How do Helium with 50-60% pre-mine of total supply be nothing other than a pump coin for few whales?
One ombre will hold 36% all available Helium and will have final say over pivx governance tool. How can this function with one person controlling 36% of all Helium?

This is a failed from start if team does not make new snapshot.

There is no premine and there is no one controlling 36% of the supply.
I have already told you ¬¬

We are not coding, we know only small but is very confusing.




Dude, that address is from CRYPTOPIA ¬¬
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April 30, 2018, 12:58:12 AM
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How do Helium with 50-60% pre-mine of total supply be nothing other than a pump coin for few whales?
One ombre will hold 36% all available Helium and will have final say over pivx governance tool. How can this function with one person controlling 36% of all Helium?

This is a failed from start if team does not make new snapshot.

There is no premine and there is no one controlling 36% of the supply.
I have already told you ¬¬

We are not coding, we know only small but is very confusing.

https://ibb.co/fk14jH


Dude, that address is from CRYPTOPIA ¬¬

We understand Smiley

Can you we get answer to why these BITTREX WALLETS balances are added, if only 700,000 is held for develop team? Again we confused



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April 30, 2018, 05:51:35 AM
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Testnet Masternode Guide:

What do you need?
10000 tHLM
1 main wallet on a host with the 10000 tHLM
1 wallet on your masternode
masternode with a public IP or NATed
make sure port TCP 19009 is open to the masternode IP for testnet

Note: port 19009 and 10000 tHLM are specific for testnet.

Steps - modified from here for Helium Testnet: https://pivxmasternode.org/2017/03/08/step-step-guide-setting-masternode/

1) Using the main wallet, enter the debug console and type the following command:
```masternode genkey```
- this is the masternode privkey

2) Using the main wallet still, enter the following command:
```getaccountaddress your_masternode_name_aka_alias```
- copy the address

3) In main wallet send 10000 tHLM to the copied address

4) Still in the main wallet, enter the command into the console:
```masternode outputs```
 - proof that it went through, needed for next step

5) On the place where the main wallet is go to the Helium testnet directory:

Linux: ~/.helium/testnet4
Mac: ~/Library/Application Support/Helium or ~/.helium/testnet4
Win: %Appdata%/Helium/testnet4

Find masternode.conf and add the following line to it:
<Name of Masternode(Use the name you entered earlier for simplicity)> <Unique IP address>:19009 <The result of Step 1> <Result of Step 4> <The number after the long line in Step 4>
Example:
```masternode_name_aka_alias 31.14.135.27:19009 892WPpkqbr7sr6Si4fdsfssjjapuFzAXwETCrpPJubnrmU6aKzh c8f4965ea57a68d0e6dd384324dfd28cfbe0c801015b973e7331db8ce018716999 1```

Substitute it with your own values and without the “<>”s

6) Still on the main computer, open the helium.conf file (Find it or use the edit the config file in the helium-qt client under “Tools”). Make it look like this:

```rpcuser=long random username
 rpcpassword=longer random password
 rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
 listen=0
 server=1
 daemon=1
 logtimestamps=1
 maxconnections=256```
Save it, close and restart the wallet.

6) Still on the main computer, open the helium.conf file (Find it or use the edit the config file in the helium-qt client under “Tools”). Make it look like this:

```rpcuser=long random username
 rpcpassword=longer random password
 rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
 listen=0
 server=1
 daemon=1
 logtimestamps=1
 maxconnections=256```
Save it, close and restart the wallet.

7) Now on the masternode, find the helium testnet data directory here.(Linux: ~/.helium/testnet4). Open the helium.conf file and make it look like this:

```rpcuser=long random username that you used in last step
 rpcpassword=longer random password that you used in last step
 rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
 listen=1
 server=1
 daemon=1
 logtimestamps=1
 maxconnections=256
 masternode=1
 externalip=your unique public ip address - or your NAT address, whatsmyip.org will see it
 bind=your unique public ip address, IP of the system - ifconfig -a will show it
 masternodeaddr=your unique public ip address - or your NAT address, whatsmyip.org will see it
 masternodeprivkey=Result of Step 1```

Cool Close and restart this masternode wallet.

9) On main wallet (not masternode) open debug and enter:

```masternode start-alias lockwallet our_masternode_name_aka_alias```
- remember the name you gave it in step 2

If you did it right, you should see something like this:

               
```{
                       "overall" : "Successfully started 1 masternode, failed to start 0, total 1",
                       "detail" : {
                          "status" : {
                             "alias" : "mn1",
                             "result" : "successful"
                         }
                 }```

10) Use the following command to check status:

```masternode status```

You should see something like:

```{
"vin" : "CTxIn(COutPoint(masternode output, index
), scriptSig=)",
"service" : "ip:19009",
"pubkey" : "masternode address",
"status" : "Masternode successfully started"
}```

10000 helium to make a masternode, it's a joke?

Already the project has taken 9 months to go out, you change code base at the last moment, and finally you change 1000 helium by 10000 to make a masternode.

You do anything.

Helium does not have as much supply as Pivx. 10000 helium for a masternode is therefore very centralized and does not correspond to the idea of decentralization.

It's just a shame from start to finish this project ..

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April 30, 2018, 06:08:16 AM
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And to anticipate the following question:

The number of coins for a masternode in Helium will continue to be 1,000 HLM, although for the testnet it will take 10,000 tHLM.

I anticipate it and they don't read it ...
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April 30, 2018, 06:12:20 AM
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We understand Smiley

Can you we get answer to why these BITTREX WALLETS balances are added, if only 700,000 is held for develop team? Again we confused


That is not the definitive list of Bittrex addresses, it's a false list to test the script.
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We understand Smiley

Can you we get answer to why these BITTREX WALLETS balances are added, if only 700,000 is held for develop team? Again we confused


That is not the definitive list of Bittrex addresses, it's a false list to test the script.

Ok.. We still think 50% pre-mine going to very few from snapshot Oct 2017 is retard.

All whales would sold they coin to market. Now we 6 months on from snapshot.. What if helium take 2 -3 month to release Pivx copy?
Then we wait total 8-9 month? How does this reflect reality and not just a pump and dump whale coin?

HELIUM NEEDS NEW SNAPSHOT
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Ok.. We still think 50% pre-mine going to very few from snapshot Oct 2017 is retard.

All whales would sold they coin to market. Now we 6 months on from snapshot.. What if helium take 2 -3 month to release Pivx copy?
Then we wait total 8-9 month? How does this reflect reality and not just a pump and dump whale coin?

HELIUM NEEDS NEW SNAPSHOT

You have already established that you have currently purchased SPR (at a very low price) so your claims are only motivated for economic reasons.
There won't be another snapshot. Period.
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April 30, 2018, 01:32:54 PM
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And to anticipate the following question:

The number of coins for a masternode in Helium will continue to be 1,000 HLM, although for the testnet it will take 10,000 tHLM.

I anticipate it and they don't read it ...

Dude, reading is hard as is math. That's why they don't do it. Easier to spew BS and complain.
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10000 helium to make a masternode, it's a joke?


It's just for testnet. If you read RzeroD's post earlier you would have understood that. 1000 HLM will be for production.
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Ok.. We still think 50% pre-mine going to very few from snapshot Oct 2017 is retard.

All whales would sold they coin to market. Now we 6 months on from snapshot.. What if helium take 2 -3 month to release Pivx copy?
Then we wait total 8-9 month? How does this reflect reality and not just a pump and dump whale coin?

HELIUM NEEDS NEW SNAPSHOT

You have already established that you have currently purchased SPR (at a very low price) so your claims are only motivated for economic reasons.
There won't be another snapshot. Period.

Is that not reason for using Oct 2017 snapshot, economic reasons?
You will benefit but what about new people wanting buy Helium, I at big disadvantage compared to ombre who buy spreadcoin 6 month ago.

Helium scammed everyone out of millions of $ by selling and marketing a product that was never in the work.
I read slarck history and all we see are claims that the wallet in development after the snapshot, one after other from coins101/gjhiggins/karmashark.
This was Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar/Apr/Today claims of the wallet being tested ect "Only weeks aways guys Cheesy"
coins101 awol for two months during the spreadcoindarkgold scam.
Why should any partake in this clear scheme? We only bought to dump free Helium, we knew this project was bad.

Dev can't even launch blockchain, just more lies about building something never seen.
All i see is scam snapshot from 2017 and pivx code base, this is best dev can do since snapshot?
Failed project, centralized coin, scam dev team.

We also see many many documents and videos from RICS and the building industry. I also in building industry in Spain and am aware of RICS.
I'm sure they interested to know they name used throughout the scam promotion of Helium and the resulting damages on the RICS brand Helium may have brought against they.

So many evidence of false and misleading statements regarding the progress of project, are you sure you not breaking law now?
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April 30, 2018, 03:20:11 PM
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@rrolltoll the code and procedure used to make the snapshot was carefully documented and you'll find this on the github. Feel free to make your own snapshot.
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Is that not reason for using Oct 2017 snapshot, economic reasons?
You will benefit but what about new people wanting buy Helium, I at big disadvantage compared to ombre who buy spreadcoin 6 month ago.

Helium scammed everyone out of millions of $ by selling and marketing a product that was never in the work.
I read slarck history and all we see are claims that the wallet in development after the snapshot, one after other from coins101/gjhiggins/karmashark.
This was Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar/Apr/Today claims of the wallet being tested ect "Only weeks aways guys Cheesy"
coins101 awol for two months during the spreadcoindarkgold scam.
Why should any partake in this clear scheme? We only bought to dump free Helium, we knew this project was bad.

Dev can't even launch blockchain, just more lies about building something never seen.
All i see is scam snapshot from 2017 and pivx code base, this is best dev can do since snapshot?
Failed project, centralized coin, scam dev team.

We also see many many documents and videos from RICS and the building industry. I also in building industry in Spain and am aware of RICS.
I'm sure they interested to know they name used throughout the scam promotion of Helium and the resulting damages on the RICS brand Helium may have brought against they.

So many evidence of false and misleading statements regarding the progress of project, are you sure you not breaking law now?

Your account was created yesterday, 2 seconds ago you were wishing that a second snapshot was made to participate, now you simply dedicate yourself to throwing accusations without evidence. I have answered your questions but it seems that you prefer to ignore the information I have given you.

Do what you want.

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Ah, and don't worry about RICS, they already know us Cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=3WszfphlmZA
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April 30, 2018, 07:01:57 PM
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@rrolltoll the code and procedure used to make the snapshot was carefully documented and you'll find this on the github. Feel free to make your own snapshot.

But that 6 months ago? Many has changed since then. Snapshot ok if release follows short after but 6 - 9 months? This stupid Cheesy
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