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March 10, 2018, 03:11:20 AM
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Good day all,

I have been working daily to get the projects various pieces in order to complete the launch and am now moving closer to realizing that goal. There have been some delays which I will be able to speak to once a few more house keeping items are in order. For transparency, I have put up my consultancy at Crypto Consultant and my studio at Blockchain TV for sale last month and shut down their respective operations at the end of 2017. This was done to free up my time to focus solely on Helium and to ensure that the right people were brought into the project to get the launch completed properly without losing traction on the Enterprise front.


Good to see KarmaShark and craslovell posting updates here in bitcointalk.

From now on, I will also register for access to your Slack group to check on updates.

Nonetheless, I also like to see the Helium Community Manager (craslovell) post more updates on Bitcointalk, Reddit, and your website blog as not all users are on Slack. It would also be good to post some timelines on Trello (like Storj) to see how this project is moving on.

I am a long term holder on Helium as I love the idea of Master/Service Nodes. Good luck team.

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March 10, 2018, 05:05:31 PM
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Hopefully we will launch soon!
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March 12, 2018, 07:05:13 AM
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Hopefully we will launch soon!
I think this message will not affect the launch speed of the platform.  Smiley
But I'm very glad that they showed themselves, in this thread. And they look purposeful.
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March 12, 2018, 05:22:39 PM
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In fact I don't even understand how anyone could claim such a thing, regardless of delays.

For the record, I don't think it's a scam, but I am extremely concerned:
  • Team claims to work agile, but does not check in with stake-holders for weeks
  • Coin-swap is initiated somewhere around November and 5 months later, we still don't have anything in return
  • Endless delays that might or might not make sense in the end, but happen without communication
  • Founder goes completely radio-silent. What if he had simply dropped the project or is terminally ill?

If you can't see how this leads people to suspect fraud, I don't know what to say.

>Our team is comprised of some of the most genuine and passionate blockchain enthusiasts I've come across in my 5 years in this field

Yet no one is willing and able to entertain the unwashed masses here from time to time with their enthusiasm? That's strange, if I start a project, I would like to tell everyone about it.

>Great things are coming.

I've been hearing this for half a year now and every time it's without any details. That gets old fast.

Yes, I am salty as hell. The money locked into HLM I could have used on other projects to make me more money in between.

Just a case in point: the latest blog entry on https://www.heliumlabs.org/blog is about 6 weeks old now. That's no way to treat people who entrusted you their money.

Great post, sums the situation up nicely... Also, not to nitpick, but the fork/swap took place in early October, which makes the time frame even longer...

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March 12, 2018, 08:01:47 PM
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If you are working in the construction sector or you provide enterprise software to the construction sector and you are using Google to find information about the Helium Blockchain Alliance, this is one of the forums where you can get in contact with the Helium team.

You can also contact the team via our website or social media, heliumpay.com https://twitter.com/HeliumPay

We have attended industry workshops and we are also aware that businesses and organisations within the construction and infrastructure sector are now referencing our work in their marketing materials. We would ask anyone making use of our work to give proper attribution to either Helium or The Helium Blockchain Alliance.







While the above materials from the project sponsors makes partial references to a draft paper due out later this year, the process flow diagrams and other charts do not. We are an open source project, but we still ask that you give proper attribution.

For clarification to those new to our work, our development of at least one of the above charts can be traced back to a filmed event we helped to organise in June 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WszfphlmZA&t=671s

If you are searching for the Construction Smart Contracts Committee, some of their work is also based on our proposals for integrating distributed ledgers and smart contracts into supply chain dependent sectors, such as the construction sector. We will be releasing some further details on our approach to smart contracts after we have released a proposal on resolving the scaling constraints on extensive use of smart contracts within sectors that rely extensively on peaks in logistics for relatively short periods of time.
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March 12, 2018, 08:21:00 PM
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If you are working in the construction sector or you provide enterprise software to the construction sector and you are using Google to find information about the Helium Blockchain Alliance, this is one of the forums where you can get in contact with the Helium team.

You can also contact the team via our website or social media, heliumpay.com https://twitter.com/HeliumPay

We have attended industry workshops and we are also aware that businesses and organisations within the construction and infrastructure sector are now referencing our work in their marketing materials. We would ask anyone making use of our work to give proper attribution to either Helium or The Helium Blockchain Alliance.







While the above materials from the project sponsors makes partial references to a draft paper due out later this year, the process flow diagrams and other charts do not. We are an open source project, but we still ask that you give proper attribution.

For clarification to those new to our work, our development of at least one of the above charts can be traced back to a filmed event we helped to organise in June 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WszfphlmZA&t=671s

If you are searching for the Construction Smart Contracts Committee, some of their work is also based on our proposals for integrating distributed ledgers and smart contracts into supply chain dependent sectors, such as the construction sector. We will be releasing some further details on our approach to smart contracts after we have released a proposal on resolving the scaling constraints on extensive use of smart contracts within sectors that rely extensively on peaks in logistics for relatively short periods of time.


Bravo! Glad to see you're alive and have all your fingers and toes!

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March 13, 2018, 02:03:23 AM
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I started to think , everyone is related with this project somehow disappeared or were abducted by aliens except bitcoinkw. Good to see everyone come together again. Delays can be acceptable but waiting without knowing what’s going on was really disappointing. At least community has been great. I enjoy trollbox. Just show up and talk with trolls like us. Good luck.
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March 13, 2018, 02:29:27 AM
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Crafting a blockchain platform cant be done in months. It is going to take years to lay the foundation of a working blockchain ecosystem . Helium is one heck of a blockchain application. Nicer to have an update as to where the project stands now.

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March 13, 2018, 08:27:49 AM
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March 13, 2018, 05:09:36 PM
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It's alive  Shocked

From what I understand ..this coin is based on DASH ..thus they are waiting for the Dev's of DASH to make some fixes to the code

before they move on and release Helium? Is that the crux of the issue now? If so anyone have any idea of a timeline just on the DASH fix?

thanks, just trying to put this in some kind of perspective/timeline

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March 13, 2018, 05:23:41 PM
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It's alive  Shocked

From what I understand ..this coin is based on DASH ..thus they are waiting for the Dev's of DASH to make some fixes to the code

before they move on and release Helium? Is that the crux of the issue now? If so anyone have any idea of a timeline just on the DASH fix?

thanks, just trying to put this in some kind of perspective/timeline

brad


Isn't this a really bad sign for HELIUM itself then? Whenever there is a bug or some issue with the code that requires an update or a fix, this community has to wait for DASH developers to act? Or am I misunderstanding this?

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March 13, 2018, 05:37:42 PM
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It's alive  Shocked

From what I understand ..this coin is based on DASH ..thus they are waiting for the Dev's of DASH to make some fixes to the code

before they move on and release Helium? Is that the crux of the issue now? If so anyone have any idea of a timeline just on the DASH fix?

thanks, just trying to put this in some kind of perspective/timeline

brad


Isn't this a really bad sign for HELIUM itself then? Whenever there is a bug or some issue with the code that requires an update or a fix, this community has to wait for DASH developers to act? Or am I misunderstanding this?

I am looking for clarity on this myself...but, from what I understand this is the reason for the delay...I suppose it makes sense, as a fork....this is also true of say

Litecoin and Bitcoin ..in that litecoin is a fork...I suppose it depends on how open DASH devs are with Helium devs....on keeping them in the loop..it is not a big

deal with LTC and BTC but it may be a big deal for DASH devs just not liking forks like Helium or something.

But yeah, clarity on the holdup, a timeline on the supposed 'fix' needed by dash devs ....would be helpful..even if it is just a 'ballpark' this summer of 2018 as a guess


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March 13, 2018, 06:16:11 PM
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Another coin, SEND, was forked form Dashbut they didn't have a problem so I don't know what the problem encountered Helium devs. At this point I'm happy that I sold Spread at all time high, before the snapshot

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March 13, 2018, 11:11:31 PM
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The next DASH developmental milestone would require considerable reworking of existing code. Rather than release Helium on the existing DASH codebase and then face a possible fork and a lot of rewriting of code they have chosen to wait. This is a logical choice, but shouldn't have been sprung on the community who invested in SPR to get into the airdrop expecting a much more imminent release.

You should also be aware that there will be some waiting period after the DASH update while our devs actually code and test Helium. I'm expecting a Q3 2018 release. Q2 would be a nice surprise.
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March 13, 2018, 11:41:29 PM
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There has been quite a lot of activity on HLM Slack recently. From what I've understood the community mailinglist is having some issues so an update may or may not have been sent out. This is a TL:DR from all what was said in the last couple of days:

March 10th:


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I'm lending Karmashark a hand with setting up the premine and the script to execute the ledger balance transfer transactions. Currently getting up to speed, nothing to contribute immediately, give me a couple of days.

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Indeed, Graham has been good enough once again to lend a hand so be kind and try to keep your inquiries to a minimum as we work through some hurdles together

my time and effort is needed right now to get this project back on track however I will opine - while Enterprise funding is a nice bonus it was never a requirement to launch a blockchain (at least in my opinion )

there are many moving parts so I will not repeat myself - once the network is in a good place I will give an account on what has transpired and why I handled matters the way I did given the information I had at the time

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@everyone As you can see @coins101 is very much alive - I have been working to bring everyone together while dealing with several issues so please bare with my team while we put various pieces in their proper place

@everyone While on the topic of updates I would like to introduce @richyjames to the team - Richy has been instrumental in helping keep the ball rolling with me while adding another level-headed soul to the mix


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Cheers guys,  plugging away to get this done

These are quotes pulled from Slack. If you need more I suppose you join and read everything for yourself.
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March 14, 2018, 02:03:08 AM
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Well I'm definitely glad to see that team members are giving updates, but they need to be making sure they're coming to Bitcointalk so the majority of the project's followers can see...

Need a(nother) community manager? Wink

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Well I'm definitely glad to see that team members are giving updates, but they need to be making sure they're coming to Bitcointalk so the majority of the project's followers can see...

Need a(nother) community manager? Wink

I plan to deliver many great updates to our community here. When they are ready that is  Cheesy

I think at this point most of our followers are spectating the various Slack channels.
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Well I'm definitely glad to see that team members are giving updates, but they need to be making sure they're coming to Bitcointalk so the majority of the project's followers can see...

Need a(nother) community manager? Wink

I plan to deliver many great updates to our community here. When they are ready that is  Cheesy

I think at this point most of our followers are spectating the various Slack channels.
Even if the majority of your followers are in slack, you should still update your thread for the few people who still don`t want to use slack for privacy purposes.
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Well I'm definitely glad to see that team members are giving updates, but they need to be making sure they're coming to Bitcointalk so the majority of the project's followers can see...

Need a(nother) community manager? Wink

I plan to deliver many great updates to our community here. When they are ready that is  Cheesy

I think at this point most of our followers are spectating the various Slack channels.
Even if the majority of your followers are in slack, you should still update your thread for the few people who still don`t want to use slack for privacy purposes.

I just gave you an update. There is also nothing against making a spoof email address for your slack account.
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It's alive  Shocked

From what I understand ..this coin is based on DASH ..thus they are waiting for the Dev's of DASH to make some fixes to the code

before they move on and release Helium? Is that the crux of the issue now? If so anyone have any idea of a timeline just on the DASH fix?

thanks, just trying to put this in some kind of perspective/timeline

brad


Isn't this a really bad sign for HELIUM itself then? Whenever there is a bug or some issue with the code that requires an update or a fix, this community has to wait for DASH developers to act? Or am I misunderstanding this?

I am looking for clarity on this myself...but, from what I understand this is the reason for the delay...I suppose it makes sense, as a fork....this is also true of say

Litecoin and Bitcoin ..in that litecoin is a fork...I suppose it depends on how open DASH devs are with Helium devs....on keeping them in the loop..it is not a big

deal with LTC and BTC but it may be a big deal for DASH devs just not liking forks like Helium or something.

But yeah, clarity on the holdup, a timeline on the supposed 'fix' needed by dash devs ....would be helpful..even if it is just a 'ballpark' this summer of 2018 as a guess



So Dash has 3 security bugs that were discovered during the bounty. Dash has a large development team to fix those bugs. Helium has been financed out of pocket by the developers. Since Helium does not yet have the funds to hire a large development team, they were waiting for Dash to release the update to save months of development time and costs.

 Things have changed though, from what I understand, Helium will launch soon but remain Dash compatible until after the security patch can be added. Then it will branch out. Helium needs to gain steam so the treasury can start funding a core development team.

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