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April 04, 2017, 04:31:14 PM |
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You still owe me at least 2 Bitcoin if you remove the winnings from that day.
Untill this is sorted out I will advice everybody to stay away from this site because they will refuse to pay any big winners
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BetOpen (OP)
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April 04, 2017, 04:34:17 PM |
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Why will you not just reset my winnings from that day?
Any fraud usage is punished by closure of the account (and also you've used the fraudalent obtained coins to increase the balance more and counting them as fair), we just offered you ability to continue betting honestly by keeping account active, which you denied. Lets stop the discussion, as said before we won't change our decision. If we wanted just to keep your coins, we could block account without any explanations, discussions and chats here as other sportsbooks do. But you will never see any feedback like that from our users, your case is the only one with this kind of issue. So any blames to us about "scam" that were brought before are empty and unfair.
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M0w
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April 04, 2017, 04:38:35 PM |
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Funny how you are just removing your post and then posting it again so you can once again ignore any of my other comments.
You sir are a fraud, period.
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April 04, 2017, 04:41:32 PM |
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Funny how you are just removing your post and then posting it again so you can once again ignore any of my other comments.
You sir are a fraud, period.
I suggest you to create a scam accusation properly in this forum, to warn all users and bettors, when it is done, kindly post it here.
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BetOpen (OP)
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April 04, 2017, 04:42:12 PM |
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Funny how you are just removing your post and then posting it again so you can once again ignore any of my other comments.
It was just updated to answer them all
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M0w
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April 04, 2017, 04:47:23 PM |
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Really? Because the answer is still the same and does not address any of the other comments I made.
BetOpen is a scam site and claims fraudulent activity without providing any evidence.
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M0w
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April 04, 2017, 04:51:25 PM |
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Funny how you are just removing your post and then posting it again so you can once again ignore any of my other comments.
You sir are a fraud, period.
I suggest you to create a scam accusation properly in this forum, to warn all users and bettors, when it is done, kindly post it here. Where exactly can I post the accusation? In the same subforum as this thread?
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M0w
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April 04, 2017, 05:01:48 PM |
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Okay so I found it and copied the most important messages from this 'discussion' and created my own thread. This way BetOpen.co cannot any posts if they wanted to. Here is the thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1855440.0
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minime0105
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April 04, 2017, 05:53:03 PM |
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There you go mate, you posted it in the correct section, you can also pass it to admins here of bitcointalk, also to the moderators and cyber police here if there is, for them to check this accusation, so that this site will be RED Tagged until they are not showing evidence that you really cheated.
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Joel_Jantsen
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April 04, 2017, 06:49:15 PM |
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Do Not Recommend any players to continue depositing money here as casino is been involved in shady behaviour and has an open scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1855440.new#newI request Casino Owners to reply in opened scam accusation thread.As much as you would like to discuss it privately,your casino's rep will be evaluated on your transparency.
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April 04, 2017, 08:27:02 PM |
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Do Not Recommend any players to continue depositing money here as casino is been involved in shady behaviour and has an open scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1855440.new#newI request Casino Owners to reply in opened scam accusation thread.As much as you would like to discuss it privately,your casino's rep will be evaluated on your transparency. Jantsen is right, you have to answer to the scam accusation.
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April 05, 2017, 12:36:42 AM |
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Do Not Recommend any players to continue depositing money here as casino is been involved in shady behaviour and has an open scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1855440.new#newI request Casino Owners to reply in opened scam accusation thread.As much as you would like to discuss it privately,your casino's rep will be evaluated on your transparency. Definitely let us avoid this site, it can be an exit scam any time, they confiscated players' fund if the player is a big winner.
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Chevas Regal
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April 05, 2017, 06:53:53 AM |
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Do Not Recommend any players to continue depositing money here as casino is been involved in shady behaviour and has an open scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1855440.new#newI request Casino Owners to reply in opened scam accusation thread.As much as you would like to discuss it privately,your casino's rep will be evaluated on your transparency. Definitely let us avoid this site, it can be an exit scam any time, they confiscated players' fund if the player is a big winner. Its upto one, but always think logically before calling out someone/something a scam. As per the response from the Betopen owners that i got , i was able to infer that at the time the player made the stake/bet at the vary day the system(site) was having un-synchronized server timing , if you own a sportsbook then you would had known this that if the time-stamp is lagging in server then the slip still available after the required time. This fault generally occur and you can see the delay in feed if you know the time lag between williamhills and betfair , almost 10 sec gap, it could prove to be fatal if there is huge potential bet placed at that very instance.
never though i dont want to take you guys off the topic but yeah a time-stamp discover can be a potential reason why the player was so lucky that day, the amount here staked is not important but to save a credible platform. i will suggest betopen to prove this with proper documentation that there was indeed a glitch.
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April 05, 2017, 07:24:20 AM |
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Do Not Recommend any players to continue depositing money here as casino is been involved in shady behaviour and has an open scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1855440.new#newI request Casino Owners to reply in opened scam accusation thread.As much as you would like to discuss it privately,your casino's rep will be evaluated on your transparency. Definitely let us avoid this site, it can be an exit scam any time, they confiscated players' fund if the player is a big winner. Its upto one, but always think logically before calling out someone/something a scam. As per the response from the Betopen owners that i got , i was able to infer that at the time the player made the stake/bet at the vary day the system(site) was having un-synchronized server timing , if you own a sportsbook then you would had known this that if the time-stamp is lagging in server then the slip still available after the required time. This fault generally occur and you can see the delay in feed if you know the time lag between williamhills and betfair , almost 10 sec gap, it could prove to be fatal if there is huge potential bet placed at that very instance.
never though i dont want to take you guys off the topic but yeah a time-stamp discover can be a potential reason why the player was so lucky that day, the amount here staked is not important but to save a credible platform. i will suggest betopen to prove this with proper documentation that there was indeed a glitch.It is better to wait for what will betopen do to eliminate red marks on his account. Frankly playing at a site where the admin get a red trust will be very uncomfortable. It is better to avoid it until all problem has been resolved!
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April 05, 2017, 08:31:35 AM |
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I request Casino Owners to reply in opened scam accusation thread.As much as you would like to discuss it privately,your casino's rep will be evaluated on your transparency.
Its upto one, but always think logically before calling out someone/something a scam. As per the response from the Betopen owners that i got , i was able to infer that at the time the player made the stake/bet at the vary day the system(site) was having un-synchronized server timing , if you own a sportsbook then you would had known this that if the time-stamp is lagging in server then the slip still available after the required time. This fault generally occur and you can see the delay in feed if you know the time lag between williamhills and betfair , almost 10 sec gap, it could prove to be fatal if there is huge potential bet placed at that very instance.
never though i dont want to take you guys off the topic but yeah a time-stamp discover can be a potential reason why the player was so lucky that day, the amount here staked is not important but to save a credible platform. i will suggest betopen to prove this with proper documentation that there was indeed a glitch.It is better to wait for what will betopen do to eliminate red marks on his account. Frankly playing at a site where the admin get a red trust will be very uncomfortable. It is better to avoid it until all problem has been resolved! Responded in the requested topic, please write your comments there, here will be posted new announcements/updates etc.
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April 05, 2017, 09:37:13 AM |
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Hey guys, we've lowered required bet size for winning GALAXY S8 parlay. Check it in the related topic ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) With the open scam accusation against you and the red mark on your account, it will be so hard for you to get interest at any kinds of promotions you offers except the free ones. People will think many times before spending their money on your site when they see the red trust on your account. Better to solve it first
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BetOpen (OP)
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April 05, 2017, 05:33:11 PM |
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April 05, 2017, 05:34:48 PM |
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Site is somewhat scammy , and I will tell you why
They advertise a 125% bonus up to 250 MBTC, however the bonus is near impossible to achieve.
Bonus requires a very reasonable 10X rollover, so far so good. However the bonus is near impossible to achieve. read
Follow these steps to receive 125% bonus on your first deposit, up to mBTC 250: - Register for an account with BetOpen; - Make your first deposit; - Place bets equal to your first deposit amount from your player account. Single bets must have a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; parlay bets must contain at least one selection with a minimum odd of 1.80 to be accounted for bonus activation; - Upon rollover completion, 125% bonus of your first deposit size will be added to your balance, available to withdraw.
So lets say you deposit 5 BTC, only bets 5 BTC or over will count towards your rollover. You would have to bet your entire balance on your first bet ( assuming they took a bet of that size on that market) Even if you only deposit only 1 BTC, you would have bet balance on your first bet.
You could make 5000 bets at 500 MBTC and you would never achieve your bonus. They are certainly making a great impersonation of a website that never intends to honor their advertised bonus.
Sounds unethical to me. I have never seen that requirement in any sportsbook anywhere. They certainly do not promote that rule in their headlines about 125% bonus.
I am looking forward to BetOpen's response here as to why I am incorrect calling them out for an unethical promo.
I think you got it wrong mate, the bonus is capped at 250 mbtc, so why the hell you will deposit 5btc? 200 mbtc is enough for this, when you lose you can deposit again, to achieve the FDB. So it means, you only need to bet 2 btc in total to achieve this FDB. It's okay since its their discretion for auch promotions, but it is certainly achievable, The main thing here, is proving the guy who won huge amount of btc is not yet paid, and there is no proof that he cheated, Another important thing is that, location and license to operate of the site is not disclosed. So without this, I suggest users to avoid the site. Of course the no-pay accusation is more important to the discussion. However, the misleading bonus advertisement is a sure sign of an unethical operation. Why would someone deposit more than 1/4 BTC, simply because they want to play many different games at many different amounts (like the true gambler they are seeking). I did not deposit simply to beat them on the promotion, I deposited to gamble and have fun.
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April 05, 2017, 06:53:26 PM |
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Why would someone deposit more than 1/4 BTC, simply because they want to play many different games at many different amounts (like the true gambler they are seeking). I did not deposit simply to beat them on the promotion, I deposited to gamble and have fun.
This is how our deposit bonus system works. It counts first deposit and rollovers as stated in our T&Cs and bonus description pages, all are written clearly as other users mentioned. You can still make first deposit for 200mB and within a minute add another 2 or more btc, for example and play as much as you want with rollover counting by the system. We're sorry if you've got this misleadingly, but this is described as it works on our website.
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April 06, 2017, 12:22:51 PM |
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Yesterday I saw OP got red trust, but why this time he has neutral again? Unfair if you see he is a neutral member again.
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