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April 21, 2013, 05:45:19 AM |
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A lie would be saying "We shipped in October" in November when they haven't shipped in October. If they say "We intend to ship in October" but something happens and they can't, that statement doesn't retroactively become a lie. A statement is true or false at the time that it is made; to knowingly make a false statement is to lie, by definition. Anything else is not a lie.
There are lots of different kinds of lies. Putting forth ship dates that have no chance to be met, is a "misleading" lie. Being in "final stages of development" for 7 months is a "puffery" lie. Promising "1 watt consumed per gigahash" when they haven't even built a prototype is a "fabrication" lie. There were also cut and dry claims such as the processing of certification with FCC or UL were nearly complete when the prototype did not yet exist and no record of certification application exists (public records are a bitch) |
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Xian01
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April 21, 2013, 05:57:45 AM |
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You are a real stand up guy! Not only a liar, but a thief and fraudster as well, GG!
Holy shit dude... Glass houses much ?! |
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Frizz23
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April 21, 2013, 06:49:41 AM |
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Haha, do you expect anything less from Puerto Libre? He's lied repeatedly for months, why not throw some fraud into the mix?
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Right, Josh. We are all liars. Only you speak the truth   |
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Ruu \o/
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April 21, 2013, 07:10:34 AM |
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Yes, Conman and Kano should be getting their units next week as well as Bitminter, among a number of others.
Well that's reassuring news, thanks. I haven't heard a thing in months directly so I've been in the dark as much as anyone else. |
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April 21, 2013, 07:24:21 AM |
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Yes, Conman and Kano should be getting their units next week as well as Bitminter, among a number of others.
Well that's reassuring news, thanks. I haven't heard a thing in months directly so I've been in the dark as much as anyone else. Grats! Will cgminer support multiple "Jalapeno" devices at the same time? |
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April 21, 2013, 07:38:05 AM |
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Yes, Conman and Kano should be getting their units next week as well as Bitminter, among a number of others.
Well that's reassuring news, thanks. I haven't heard a thing in months directly so I've been in the dark as much as anyone else. Grats! Will cgminer support multiple "Jalapeno" devices at the same time? Of course. |
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rupy
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April 21, 2013, 08:41:26 AM |
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Am I the only one who wants to see the new single case?
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April 21, 2013, 08:43:50 AM |
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It's a really good idea to add a power adapter cable. But it looks like this cable is made for a specific modular ATX power supply from OCZ (or compatible). The used connector on the cable is not the counterpart connector for normal PCIe cables from standard ATX power supplies. I hoped they offered a more generic solution. |
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April 21, 2013, 09:06:21 AM |
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"This is why I know a large majority of the whiny brats that cry about BFL still maintain their pre-orders." Quote taken out of context but I felt the need to draw a line Josh. Sure, you're talking on a BTC forum so you do not need to practice any professionalism as you would on BFL's forum. However, you represent yourself and on behalf of BFL as most of us sees it. To frankly put it and on how I see it, you sure do talk a lot of smack. I haven't seen a single post from you on some of the topics regarding BFL that I regularly watch, maybe you thought it would be better to not add more fuel into the fire or maybe there wasn't anything you could reply back in a "smart-ass" tone. And now, the way I see it, you're getting on your victory dance because BFL has proven something against all odds and accusations, well.. congrats to you then, maybe you deserve it, maybe not... I don't know nor care. But that's not the point, you are you and what you say will affect your image and the company you work/represent for. I seriously don't understand why you have the need to flame back. |
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April 21, 2013, 09:11:56 AM |
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Good News!! I hope get my jalapeño with chesse for the next month. Order #100043XXX.. too much hope? ^^
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April 21, 2013, 09:44:54 AM |
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A lie would be saying "We shipped in October" in November when they haven't shipped in October. If they say "We intend to ship in October" but something happens and they can't, that statement doesn't retroactively become a lie. A statement is true or false at the time that it is made; to knowingly make a false statement is to lie, by definition. Anything else is not a lie.
There are lots of different kinds of lies. Putting forth ship dates that have no chance to be met, is a "misleading" lie. Being in "final stages of development" for 7 months is a "puffery" lie. Promising "1 watt consumed per gigahash" when they haven't even built a prototype is a "fabrication" lie. Delivery product way out of specs and sticking it to their investors while they're lying face down is a reach-around lie. |
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April 21, 2013, 09:53:56 AM |
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"This is why I know a large majority of the whiny brats that cry about BFL still maintain their pre-orders." Quote taken out of context but I felt the need to draw a line Josh. Sure, you're talking on a BTC forum so you do not need to practice any professionalism as you would on BFL's forum. However, you represent yourself and on behalf of BFL as most of us sees it. To frankly put it and on how I see it, you sure do talk a lot of smack. I haven't seen a single post from you on some of the topics regarding BFL that I regularly watch, maybe you thought it would be better to not add more fuel into the fire or maybe there wasn't anything you could reply back in a "smart-ass" tone. And now, the way I see it, you're getting on your victory dance because BFL has proven something against all odds and accusations, well.. congrats to you then, maybe you deserve it, maybe not... I don't know nor care. But that's not the point, you are you and what you say will affect your image and the company you work/represent for. I seriously don't understand why you have the need to flame back. Ive seen few post and wondered how a comunity manager at self respected corporation would allow himself to post in such a non proffesional manner. Its one thing to troll anonimously, but writing prophanity while using real name and posting on behalf of an enterprise doesnt speak highly about the individual and business he represents. Art |
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April 21, 2013, 09:57:41 AM |
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"This is why I know a large majority of the whiny brats that cry about BFL still maintain their pre-orders." Quote taken out of context but I felt the need to draw a line Josh. Sure, you're talking on a BTC forum so you do not need to practice any professionalism as you would on BFL's forum. However, you represent yourself and on behalf of BFL as most of us sees it. To frankly put it and on how I see it, you sure do talk a lot of smack. I haven't seen a single post from you on some of the topics regarding BFL that I regularly watch, maybe you thought it would be better to not add more fuel into the fire or maybe there wasn't anything you could reply back in a "smart-ass" tone. And now, the way I see it, you're getting on your victory dance because BFL has proven something against all odds and accusations, well.. congrats to you then, maybe you deserve it, maybe not... I don't know nor care. But that's not the point, you are you and what you say will affect your image and the company you work/represent for. I seriously don't understand why you have the need to flame back. Ive seen few post and wondered how a comunity manager at self respected corporation would allow himself to post in such a non proffesional manner. Its one thing to troll anonimously, but writing prophanity while using real name and posting on behalf of an enterprise doesnt speak highly about the individual and business he represents. Art It's because these forums are not very heavily moderated, people tend to go a bit overboard than they probably normally would. I spend a lot of time on other computer forums, and the mods there would have deleted half the posts in this thread within 10min. and issued some bans. There are libel and defamation issues to consider, the board owners would want to be seen as actively doing the right things. Each to their own. |
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sunblaster
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April 21, 2013, 10:04:59 AM |
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If I were to use foul language on any online media while representing my place of work I would get fired in no time. I dont think it matters if you are working for #1 employer in the country or a small startup in Kansas you have to have integrity and proffesionalism, things that money cant buy.
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mezzomix
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April 21, 2013, 10:12:51 AM |
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The only thing Josh demonstrates here is that BFL sees the customer as a piece of shit. A customer has to pay money and shut up. For me the Single SC was my first and my last deal with BFL. Well, at the moment there is no deal - I paid money to BFL to watch Avalon and ASICMINER shipping ASIC miners to their customers.
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Turbor
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April 21, 2013, 10:43:04 AM |
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The only thing Josh demonstrates here is that BFL sees the customer as a piece of shit. A customer has to pay money and shut up. For me the Single SC was my first and my last deal with BFL. Well, at the moment there is no deal - I paid money to BFL to watch Avalon and ASICMINER shipping ASIC miners to their customers.
Some asshats are bashing BFL for months. Josh gave them what they deserved. I never had problems with customer support at BFL. They came back to me within 10 minutes all the time. |
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April 21, 2013, 10:55:22 AM |
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Wow. I'm still glad I didn't buy one. It seems quite noisy too.
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April 21, 2013, 11:01:15 AM |
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It's a really good idea to add a power adapter cable. But it looks like this cable is made for a specific modular ATX power supply from OCZ (or compatible). The used connector on the cable is not the counterpart connector for normal PCIe cables from standard ATX power supplies. I hoped they offered a more generic solution. Yes, a molex or some old fashioned pc connector should be great. |
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April 21, 2013, 12:00:38 PM |
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Yes, Conman and Kano should be getting their units next week as well as Bitminter, among a number of others.
I gotta say, I like it. So far 2 devices have shipped, and a few more to come. Are those to ship next going to real customers, or are these jalepenos advertising gimmicks? I'm not trying to bust anyones stones, but I find myself in a real tight spot. 10 weeks to wait for some Avalon chips... couple more (at least) to have them populate boards... It would be most cost effective for me to purchase jalepenos... If, indeed, I could obtain them more quickly than the other route. Shucks, a single and a jalepeno would be perfect, for now. |
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April 21, 2013, 02:03:36 PM |
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Josh is what I always imagined a Blizzard community manager to be if their bosses one day said "today you can post whatever the fuck you want on the forums"
What you might find even more frightening is the the fact that I restrain myself a great deal when posting on Bitcointalk.  Really.....The one about..... nothing that a a bottle of jack,a coat hanger and his pregnant mother wouldnt fix Senior VP Fortune 500 material ....keep up the good work ..lol |
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