[ANN] SONM • Decentralized Fog Computing

[jack0m]

Shapeshift's rates are aligned with Kraken ones by a margin of less than 0.4%, I just checked via their Api:

https://shapeshift.io/rate/eth_btc

Then again, that wouldn't explain a difference of more than 2%, if they'd used the dynamic rate at any time between 1st and 6th confirmation of my BTC transaction.
Regarding the bonus, they are still manually calculating it, almost two weeks after the payment

[SONM Support]

Hello to all the SONM bounty campaign participants:
We apologize for the delay with the counting the bounty stakes and issuing bounty campaign tokens.

At the moment we are working hard on making the refunds to the preICO participants and issuing the correct amount of tokens and bonuses for the non-ETH deposit methods.
This has already took longer than we've expected, and at the moment we are working hard on this.

After we finish these tasks, we'll start counting the final numbers of bounty stakes and tokens.

Thank you for understanding

[dz4505]

Almeida is just too stupid to do math. He/She want only a fast ROI to get into another ico but sonm is long term hold and he/she stuck with sonm and he/she mad about it.

Probably.  He is using coinmarketcap as a comparison without realizing that coinmarketcap is a weighted aggregation of the coin's price for all Exchanges that they track the coins on, which makes it one of the shittest site to use.

But when you changed the BTC it only uses Shapeshift's conversion rate given at that time. 

[malekbaba]

Hello to all the SONM bounty campaign participants:
We apologize for the delay with the counting the bounty stakes and issuing bounty campaign tokens.

At the moment we are working hard on making the refunds to the preICO participants and issuing the correct amount of tokens and bonuses for the non-ETH deposit methods.
This has already took longer than we've expected, and at the moment we are working hard on this.

After we finish these tasks, we'll start counting the final numbers of bounty stakes and tokens.

Thank you for understanding

This is called nice communication. I am not tech guy but I do understand that there may be technical issue while refunding or distributing tokens and bla bla bla. We want news, what is actually going on behind the screen. Bad communication is bad for any business. We want to hear news on regular basis. So far SONM support is doing his/her task. We ask questions cause many of us suffered a lot from scams.

[Almeida]

Almeida is just too stupid to do math. He/She want only a fast ROI to get into another ico but sonm is long term hold and he/she stuck with sonm and he/she mad about it.

Probably.  He is using coinmarketcap as a comparison without realizing that coinmarketcap is a weighted aggregation of the coin's price for all Exchanges that they track the coins on, which makes it one of the shittest site to use.

But when you changed the BTC it only uses Shapeshift's conversion rate given at that time.  

Not true at all before, now yes, I just want to get rid of this token. I see desperation in you both attacking me at all costs, sorry but I'm not the one dumping the token in exchanges for 3000/2800 satoshi, I wish Santa had given me the gift of 4x more tokens!! You dz know very well that all this info was not available, not in whitepaper, nor in their website. Maybe it was my mistake? Maybe, stress leads to mistake, but I didn't see it anywhere, care to point it here (maybe you made confusion with page 17, item 3.6 of their wp)?

I just saw an exchange rate, don't be silly saying it is obvious if you look at the source code, no one is forced to do that. You are stretching your argument to defend it because you got a stake on it, understandable. But price is price, they tried to be clever with all the api and smart contracts and fucked up, period.

And yes, of course I'm aware that coinmarketcap is an aggregation, that's why I used it to be fair with my request and believe me, even with that I got less tokens than it should have been. I sent one email with a wrong calculation, could that have been the reason why they are not giving a shit? I don't think so because they never read my email, they replied with standard instructions to add the tokens to my ether wallet, lol.

But nevermind, hold 'n hope, that's all you can do now.

[dz4505]

Almeida is just too stupid to do math. He/She want only a fast ROI to get into another ico but sonm is long term hold and he/she stuck with sonm and he/she mad about it.

Probably.  He is using coinmarketcap as a comparison without realizing that coinmarketcap is a weighted aggregation of the coin's price for all Exchanges that they track the coins on, which makes it one of the shittest site to use.

But when you changed the BTC it only uses Shapeshift's conversion rate given at that time.  

Not true at all before, now yes, I just want to get rid of this token. I see desperation in you both attacking me at all costs, sorry but I'm not the one dumping the token in exchanges for 3000/2800 satoshi, I wish Santa had given me the gift of 4x more tokens!! You dz know very well that all this info was not available, not in whitepaper, nor in their website. Maybe it was my mistake? Maybe, stress leads to mistake, but I didn't see it anywhere, care to point it here (maybe you made confusion with page 17, item 3.6 of their wp)?

I just saw an exchange rate, don't be silly saying it is obvious if you look at the source code, no one is forced to do that. You are stretching your argument to defend it because you got a stake on it, understandable. But price is price, they tried to be clever with all the api and smart contracts and fucked up, period.

And yes, of course I'm aware that coinmarketcap is an aggregation, that's why I used it to be fair with my request and believe me, even with that I got less tokens than it should have been. I sent one email with a wrong calculation, could that have been the reason why they are not giving a shit? I don't think so because they never read my email, they replied with standard instructions to add the tokens to my ether wallet, lol.

But nevermind, hold 'n hope, that's all you can do now.

LOL.  I do have a stake in this coin.  No that isn't the reason why I attacked you.  You were being confused on how something very simple is calculated.  I corrected it.  If SONM scammed you by all means attack them.  I will not partake into that conversion as I first said -- anyone is right to demand what they are owed.  Just make sure you double-check all your calculation and conclude that is what you are owed.

[ostsee77]

was there a bonus on the 17.06.2017  ?  

[Sonm_Community]

was there a bonus on the 17.06.2017  ?  

What time and time zone on the 17th are you referring to.

[ostsee77]

was there a bonus on the 17.06.2017  ?  

What time and time zone on the 17th are you referring to.

17:00 MEZ

[Sonm_Community]

was there a bonus on the 17.06.2017  ?  

What time and time zone on the 17th are you referring to.

17:00 MEZ

No I think the bonuses were over by then.

[Almeida]

LOL.  I do have a stake in this coin.  No that isn't the reason why I attacked you.  You were being confused on how something very simple is calculated.  I corrected it.  If SONM scammed you by all means attack them.  I will not partake into that conversion as I first said -- anyone is right to demand what they are owed.  Just make sure you double-check all your calculation and conclude that is what you are owed.

I didn't get confused, it was just misleading showing 1 usd= 8 snm in the API while in reality it was 7ish, or 1 usd = 9 snm when in reality it was 8ish. That's a big difference. It is pretty straightforward putting 2824/ETH as the exchange ratio, no doubt that's a clear idea, but I didn't rush to check ETH price (to check where btw?), I checked only BTC price because I assumed the exchange rate fixed there and multiplied it by the average price of BTC in coinmarketcap to have a rough idea of how many tokens I was going to get.

As for the scam, by definition is taking your money and vanishing, or taking advantage of a situation where you cannot have your money back. Sorry but so far that's what they did and not only with me. Why don't they offer a refund? They did for the golden pre-ICO investors. The sonm_community people said they are solving the bonus issues manually and that they solved for many people already, then the Alexey guy came and said to me that they will solve all the bonus issues simultaneously in the future. This consistency of information is really reassuring!!

With so many scams running loose the lack of transparency and presence here and elsewhere is appalling.

I'm sorry for saying the king is naked.

[Sonm_Community]

Maybe it is a language barrier.  There are many people who have received their bonuses.  Maybe he meant they are trying to make 1 batch to correct the rest. 

I will be happy to ask him and confirm. 

[Almeida]

Maybe it is a language barrier.  There are many people who have received their bonuses.  Maybe he meant they are trying to make 1 batch to correct the rest. 

I will be happy to ask him and confirm. 

Thank you, but it would be much better to have a refund at this point.

[Sonm_Community]

Maybe it is a language barrier.  There are many people who have received their bonuses.  Maybe he meant they are trying to make 1 batch to correct the rest. 

I will be happy to ask him and confirm. 

Thank you, but it would be much better to have a refund at this point.

Sorry buyers remorse isn't covered.  You will not receive a refund.

[Almeida]

Maybe it is a language barrier.  There are many people who have received their bonuses.  Maybe he meant they are trying to make 1 batch to correct the rest. 

I will be happy to ask him and confirm. 

Thank you, but it would be much better to have a refund at this point.

Sorry buyers remorse isn't covered.  You will not receive a refund.

Yeah of course not, that was all expected. Nor will I have any correction in my investment, that's all clear judging by the greed and "fucks given" of people running this.

[BTCBusinessConsult]

In the spirit of kindness, I am willing to buy up these worthless coins from you guys at an attractive rate of $0.03 each.

Pm me how many coins you want to dump, and ill send you my ETH address. You hate this coin, this coin is worthless, let me take those worthless coins from you and give you REAL BTC you can do something with.

Limited time offer, dont miss out -- save what little is left of your investment!!

[dz4505]

Maybe it is a language barrier.  There are many people who have received their bonuses.  Maybe he meant they are trying to make 1 batch to correct the rest. 

I will be happy to ask him and confirm. 

Thank you, but it would be much better to have a refund at this point.

Sorry buyers remorse isn't covered.  You will not receive a refund.

Yeah of course not, that was all expected. Nor will I have any correction in my investment, that's all clear judging by the greed and "fucks given" of people running this.

Pretty sure it is like that for all ICOs else people will ask for refund anytime the price drops below ICO price.  But if you have preico tokens I am sure they will refund you your ETH.

What you want is the bonus to be corrected, if there is any.

[electronicash]

GOLEM started out with just a cent.

In the spirit of kindness, I am willing to buy up these worthless coins from you guys at an attractive rate of $0.03 each.

Pm me how many coins you want to dump, and ill send you my ETH address. You hate this coin, this coin is worthless, let me take those worthless coins from you and give you REAL BTC you can do something with.

Limited time offer, dont miss out -- save what little is left of your investment!!

poor attempt. at this early stage you guys are already feeling the FOMO. why would you buy a worthless token for $0.03 when its worthless. you should be buying something else or you are just piling up garbage. save whats left of your face. save face.

[CORNEL]

In the spirit of kindness, I am willing to buy up these worthless coins from you guys at an attractive rate of $0.03 each.

Pm me how many coins you want to dump, and ill send you my ETH address. You hate this coin, this coin is worthless, let me take those worthless coins from you and give you REAL BTC you can do something with.

Limited time offer, dont miss out -- save what little is left of your investment!!

This post made my day what a terrible that is but time is almost over to buy this at cheap price. This market is going to rise very soon and all weak hands gonna cry. I bought from Liqui which is still cheap so you can bu from that.

[Almeida]

Pretty sure it is like that for all ICOs else people will ask for refund anytime the price drops below ICO price.  But if you have preico tokens I am sure they will refund you your ETH.

What you want is the bonus to be corrected, if there is any.

Nah, I wouldn't buy this. It is being sold right now at +/- 3000 satoshi in Liqui, it is just a matter of going there to "average" down the price we paid if one wants to hodl. I just wanted my BTC back, this company is not going anywhere, too much greed, disrespect and lack of skills. Everybody is dumping it that low because they saw the fiasco this ICO was, just the truth. Pre-ICO can still have profit selling as low as 2000 sat, yes, but they could have created a resistance around ICO price, they didn't. Wait for the bounty tokens... hope is speculators will pump it so we can get out, but time it well.

I knew they wouldn't refund, as I know they won't correct the investment, not trustworthy at all. Bottom line is that they don't give a fuck since they have their 40 millions and we can't do anything, at least they think.