[ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract

[Mr. Pool]

So, I signed in this morning all giddy to find out what was happening with Artemine, and I run smack into this mess.  With that said, does anyone have any idea what the up side of either of these coins could be considering what has just been exposed.  Just trying to stay positive.  I have lost time and money on these types of things in the past, but before I invest in anything else I need to revisit the way I research these opportunities because I really missed the ball on this one. 

The presumed fact that the Dev throw us a curve ball does not help.  Like the rest of you guys, I hope the Dev comes clean.  That would be the appropriate thing to do.  In other words the Dev needs to man up.

Actually dev hasn't done anything wrong, whole discussion is pure speculation that who owns most of the gens. I have seen this kind of shit-talking too many times but this goes quite much beyond everything what I have seen so far.

That's absolutely right, a few people on a thread get upset at the dev with no proof and all of the sudden it's labeled a scam project.  There's no proof of anything other than one person has a lot of MNE genesis addresses, how in the fuck does that make this a scam???

Lol, go ahead then, buy when it's still low :-) nice trip to the moon on this one man spaceship :-)

I don't need to, I bought the MNE and ARTE that I wanted to.  Like a normal person, I assessed the risks and rewards of this penny stock and now I'm waiting to see what happens...

Don't start complaining when development lacks and someone dumps ART on you for 63 years :-)

[MrPuffnStuff]

So, I signed in this morning all giddy to find out what was happening with Artemine, and I run smack into this mess.  With that said, does anyone have any idea what the up side of either of these coins could be considering what has just been exposed.  Just trying to stay positive.  I have lost time and money on these types of things in the past, but before I invest in anything else I need to revisit the way I research these opportunities because I really missed the ball on this one. 

The presumed fact that the Dev throw us a curve ball does not help.  Like the rest of you guys, I hope the Dev comes clean.  That would be the appropriate thing to do.  In other words the Dev needs to man up.

Actually dev hasn't done anything wrong, whole discussion is pure speculation that who owns most of the gens. I have seen this kind of shit-talking too many times but this goes quite much beyond everything what I have seen so far.

That's absolutely right, a few people on a thread get upset at the dev with no proof and all of the sudden it's labeled a scam project.  There's no proof of anything other than one person has a lot of MNE genesis addresses, how in the fuck does that make this a scam???

Lol, go ahead then, buy when it's still low :-) nice trip to the moon on this one man spaceship :-)

I don't need to, I bought the MNE and ARTE that I wanted to.  Like a normal person, I assessed the risks and rewards of this penny stock and now I'm waiting to see what happens...

Don't start complaining when development lacks and someone dumps ART on you for 63 years :-)

I promise you I will not!  This investment represents about 3% of my portfolio...

[LlamaManGuy]

So, I signed in this morning all giddy to find out what was happening with Artemine, and I run smack into this mess.  With that said, does anyone have any idea what the up side of either of these coins could be considering what has just been exposed.  Just trying to stay positive.  I have lost time and money on these types of things in the past, but before I invest in anything else I need to revisit the way I research these opportunities because I really missed the ball on this one. 

The presumed fact that the Dev throw us a curve ball does not help.  Like the rest of you guys, I hope the Dev comes clean.  That would be the appropriate thing to do.  In other words the Dev needs to man up.

Actually dev hasn't done anything wrong, whole discussion is pure speculation that who owns most of the gens. I have seen this kind of shit-talking too many times but this goes quite much beyond everything what I have seen so far.

That's absolutely right, a few people on a thread get upset at the dev with no proof and all of the sudden it's labeled a scam project.  There's no proof of anything other than one person has a lot of MNE genesis addresses, how in the fuck does that make this a scam???

There is proof though, one person is in control of well over 800 gen address' and has been dumping on to exchanges a long with participating in the ICO that will continue to mine profit for this person. The only person who could possibly have that many genesis address' is the dev. That is the issue here. On top of this the dev will continue to produce it's coin through Artemine because they've used their genesis address' to participate in the ICO creating more genesis address that shouldn't even be there devaluating your Artemine.

This is a pretty serious accusation that I don't believe the dev addressed in any way possible. I am a long time supporter of MNE and ART and I am one of the most active people in the telegram group. This is nothing but bad.

On a side note, the address that sent most of the ETH to these gen address' also contains a huge amount of Polybius, if you guys remember Polybius it was a scam created by the makers of Hashcoins which was a scam for distributing mining hardware.

This is not a good sign, and on top of that the dev did not address the issue at all.

While I agree it would be stupid to blackmail them to cover up this information, it is equally stupid if not more to not address this issue at all.

[guigui371]

I find another person who own about 300 gen address.
the fund eth address is  0x864c68608554ebf619a054c5941b7a0988df11d3.
and when the ico begain, from all the gen address  send 21.11 to the ico address.
may be those gen address hoding by one person.

I also Statistics the MNE munber send to ico  address!
243.7MNE        432 address
21.1100MNE     402 address
57.59MNE        200 address
85.67MNE        198 address
73.66MNE        100 address
144.5MNE        94 address
243.61MNE       65 address
87.68MNE        64 address
100MNE          32 address
240MNE          20 address
usually the same acction means one person!

Good job, but be carrefull, I think there is somme amount whithout issues :-).
Tipiccaly at least 2 amounts :
 100 MNE is normal : a lot of differents sunscribers had probably subscribe with this "round" amount.
 The same for 240 MNE : it was the available amount during the first day of the ARTE ICO.

Exactly,
I have ONE  gen and i decided to send twice 100MNE from 2 wallet differents. 
My little brother decided to do the same so that is 4 transaction identical done by at least 2 persons (not just one)

But the other random number are probably one person like you assumed.

[CarlOrff]

I find another person who own about 300 gen address.
the fund eth address is  0x864c68608554ebf619a054c5941b7a0988df11d3.
and when the ico begain, from all the gen address  send 21.11 to the ico address.
may be those gen address hoding by one person.

I also Statistics the MNE munber send to ico  address!
243.7MNE        432 address
21.1100MNE     402 address
57.59MNE        200 address
85.67MNE        198 address
73.66MNE        100 address
144.5MNE        94 address
243.61MNE       65 address
87.68MNE        64 address
100MNE          32 address
240MNE          20 address
usually the same acction means one person!

Good job, but be carrefull, I think there is somme amount whithout issues :-).
Tipiccaly at least 2 amounts :
 100 MNE is normal : a lot of differents sunscribers had probably subscribe with this "round" amount.
 The same for 240 MNE : it was the available amount during the first day of the ARTE ICO.

If we add all these addresses (exept those with 100 and 240 MNE), it make 1550 addresses (thousands MNE).
Someone verified if these addresses were all genesis addresses ?
These facts are bad for MNE and ARTE, too bad.

[iamwagner]

Did the Minereum Dev just delete his big email proof of the blackmail?  LOL.  I thought we were going to have lawyers and police involved.  Maybe his legal team wanted him to stay quiet to help the case. 

Hurry in new investors these guys have some Minereum and Artemine on deck for you.  Better hurry.  Look at the history of the pumpers in here.  They need you to buy so they can dump there geneses address payouts on you guys.

[iamwagner]

After walking away from this and thinking about it, I have a suggestion that might help the Dev regain some credibility. 

You mentioned Apple,  can the Dev provide any verifiable documentation that there has been interaction with Apple.  You can stay behind you shield of darkness, but lend some truth to what you are saying.

Just a thought.  I want this project to be successful.

His only interaction with apple was heading over to the desk to buy an Ipad.  Why would apple involve itself with whats going on here.  I think they are going to be just fine without the Pokemon App and the lottery 20 other teams are doing.

For all those in doubt check this out and see if you notice anything strange.  I'll give you a hint 09.15.2017
genesis.artemine.org

Once done with that check out the post from MusclePump above.  Should paint a clear picture.

You guys decide.

Thanks

[brendan6498011]

I find another person who own about 300 gen address.
the fund eth address is  0x864c68608554ebf619a054c5941b7a0988df11d3.
and when the ico begain, from all the gen address  send 21.11 to the ico address.
may be those gen address hoding by one person.

I also Statistics the MNE munber send to ico  address!
243.7MNE        432 address
21.1100MNE     402 address
57.59MNE        200 address
85.67MNE        198 address
73.66MNE        100 address
144.5MNE        94 address
243.61MNE       65 address
87.68MNE        64 address
100MNE          32 address
240MNE          20 address
usually the same acction means one person!

Good job, but be carrefull, I think there is somme amount whithout issues :-).
Tipiccaly at least 2 amounts :
 100 MNE is normal : a lot of differents sunscribers had probably subscribe with this "round" amount.
 The same for 240 MNE : it was the available amount during the first day of the ARTE ICO.

If we add all these addresses (exept those with 100 and 240 MNE), it make 1550 addresses (thousands MNE).
Someone verified if these addresses were all genesis addresses ?
These facts are bad for MNE and ARTE, too bad.

I verified that the statistic is only gen addresses,not include other addresses!

[banks38]

Was there really a deleted email claiming a blackmail on here posted by the Minereum dev team and he has since deleted it?  Why would he delete it if it was true?  Yikes

I bought into Minereum so I could take a stab and get a Genesis address.  Guess I should have stuck with Bitcoin!!  At least we will get a bit of entertainment out of it.  Popcorn Ready! 

Where is Minereum located out of and who do we have on the dev team?  Anyone that I would have heard of?

[brendan6498011]

the airdrop ended long time ago,now those facts cannot change anymore.
but how about the road map for MNE and Artemine?
the dev give so little message about those and keep silent most of the time，why!

[JetBlack]

Dev, I suggest you cancel the Artemine ICO and give us our MNE back, so we don't lose time & money.

We had hope and we truly believed in the project but it is hard to stay positive after the Artemine ICO "scandal"

[LlamaManGuy]

Was there really a deleted email claiming a blackmail on here posted by the Minereum dev team and he has since deleted it?  Why would he delete it if it was true?  Yikes

I bought into Minereum so I could take a stab and get a Genesis address.  Guess I should have stuck with Bitcoin!!  At least we will get a bit of entertainment out of it.  Popcorn Ready! 

Where is Minereum located out of and who do we have on the dev team?  Anyone that I would have heard of?

yes there was, the dev has deleted their post with news/threats.


It is my belief that the people behind Minereum are the same ones behind Polybius and therefore Hashcoins.

[pumz]

Dev never demand anything from anyone neither for development nor for anything else. I don't own any previous genesis address but bought from livecoin and sent to artemine seeing his history. Like some people mentioned already you will always see pros and cons in every project so happens in this. It is ultimately your own decision to invest after all. I will carry on with the project as investor.

[Tonton99]

After walking away from this and thinking about it, I have a suggestion that might help the Dev regain some credibility.  

You mentioned Apple,  can the Dev provide any verifiable documentation that there has been interaction with Apple.  You can stay behind you shield of darkness, but lend some truth to what you are saying.

Just a thought.  I want this project to be successful.

His only interaction with apple was heading over to the desk to buy an Ipad.  Why would apple involve itself with whats going on here.  I think they are going to be just fine without the Pokemon App and the lottery 20 other teams are doing.

For all those in doubt check this out and see if you notice anything strange.  I'll give you a hint 09.15.2017
genesis.artemine.org

Once done with that check out the post from MusclePump above.  Should paint a clear picture.

You guys decide.

Thanks

Would this implicate that the MNE's to ART amounts of 243.461 and 243.7 are suspicious transactions? Might be pure coincidence right? Should be 100% coincidence since MNE was fairly airdropped and the Dev personally verified all the IP's so no way that somebody accumulated so many Genesis accounts right?
The project delivered already so much on development since they started their fairly distributed airdrop and Dev personally paid all of this state of the art development out of his own pocket because he is an idealist and not tempted by personal gains on the expense of the investors in any means. His drive solely comes from the challenge to be the best blockchain programmer of them all :-) The strange rate development is also pure coincidence and the ART ICO is just an enhancement of this fairly airdropped coin to allow investors to participate on both with fair changes for the early birds and loyal supporters to earn themselves a nice profit down the road. With the JP with IOS for the Pokemon game and a fair lottery release (since no one owns so many free coins) down the road this must be  a sure bet for every experienced investor. Personally I do not see any objective to put a lot of money into this since ART and MNE have a golden future ahead :-)

I'm sure one of these days he will deliver on his promise the add a major exchange to MNE to allow liquidity to flow in and to make MNE accessible for a much bigger audience than those trading on the obscure platforms. I guess it's time now the mingle with the Big Boys and I am sure the professional Dev team is really up to the challenge to deliver both MNE and ART into the CMC Top 100 in due time.

Also certain that he will reveal his true identity very soon to promote his enterprise and take all the credits for this! I would not expect anything else as this something that needs to be recognised by the whole crypto community.

If there would be EMMY's or OSCAR's for exceptional performance on blockchain development and honesty I am sure this Dev would have multiple nominations in his pocket.

Satoshi, kiss my ass :-)

[minereum]

Our post got moderated because it contained personal information.

Here is the answer that we posted before (with the e-mail censured):

Hi Everyone,

In reference to this post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1867535.msg22057830#msg22057830

First of all I want to thank musclepump for his analysis.

Although his intentions are clearly with "bad faith" against Minereum, it brings awareness to the community to the Minereum blockchain that we recommend everyone to always keep a look on.

We are not going to comment on any particular transactions, whatever we say, some will believe, others will not, and this we believe is a useless discussion and we will not go down that path.

But we can say that the allegations that we have the intention to "dump" on the community are completely false.

The market is completely free and we don't have any control whatsoever on the MNE price, we don't hold the majority of Genesis Addresses, not even close.

We have always our focus on keeping Minereum strong and we never, in any way, directly or indirectly, have the intention of hurting this project or its community, either on the open market or in any action we take.

Now, regarding the user "musclepump", we would like to add the following:

This user has been black mailing our team since some days, requesting for money for him "to be quiet", as you can see in his e-mail sent to us, asking for money for "his hard work" (that is, his analysis of the blockchain):





Then later sends us this e-mail when making his post:



This kind of behavior is completely unacceptable, our Team does not accept or tolerate any kind of black mail.

This user has clear intentions of hurting Minereum, the community and the whole project and is just trying to get money out of it by black mailing us.

We will seek any legal actions in our power against this sort of behavior in the relevant jurisdictions.

Let us also remind the community that we never asked any money from anyone, we are funding all the development, analysis, marketing costs, etc. from our own pockets even while taking losses, and we are still here and we will keep being here. We believe what we are doing is greater than money, we are creating evolution in blockchain technology and our intentions and plans remain.

We are here and we will keep being here working on this project and in our roadmap. Regarding the Minereum World app we have been working quietly in the last months. We got multiple conclusions from our analysis and we can share with you:

1. To our surprise when we started our anaylsis on this area, the Augmented Reality on Mobile devices was not so evolved as we expected, we explored many options but none of them seemed to be a viable one.

2. We had a user from the community that was willing to help us on the Augmented Reality development, however, due to personal reasons, the user decided not to take this responsibility. (And we respect that)

3. Just few days ago, Apple announced its new device and with it they are releasing a new pack of Augmented Reality development, for more info:

https://developer.apple.com/arkit/

Our focus is shifting to this area, this could mean that the potential World App could be first released only for Apple devices, while we wait for other devices to be ready with this technology. However, still a lot of work is ahead of us and it's still not 100% clear to us if the new technology released by Apple will fit the purpose of our app. We are keeping our analysis on this area and we will update once we have more details.

Thank you all.

Minereum Team

[David0203]

It will be very stupid to panic now and sell at this price.
Even if he has 30% of the genesis adresses and dumped on us what we do know that he has always deliverd the product so i will be waiting for the world app to sell.

[ampleclarity]

When will artemine tokens be distributed?

[David0203]

When will artemine tokens be distributed?

After the ICO

[cryptovikingr]

WARNING
 LONG POST, please read until the end before making a decision...... also please read with an open mind set..

I'm no way saying this project is a scam... the information i'm about to provide is details i believe we should've all known, that we should've been told about from the beginning. With the lack of communication from the dev, its apon the community to find crucial details that should be made public. I'm about to provide some addresses that are of concern and explain my findings so everyone can see for themselves.

I'm going to start with an obvious one alot of people noticed during the first day of ico.
0x03b7c8d1f3974565150cf15d15543e1af59a0e85
here is an address that was used to fund eth (gas) to 816 gen. addresses then, all those addresses sent all there mne to ico... all instantly by using a bot. you do the math 816 addresses all 243mne thats around 200k mne into ico during last hour of day one.... best thing yet all addresses were completely inactive before this......

that is an easy one to see.. all it shows is someone has 816 addresses, never used it until last hour of day one ico and decided to dump into the arte

now we are getting alot more complex..... 36 days ago a bot pulled all the unused eth(gas) from over 5k addresses... that is the link.... now within those 5k addresses you will find hundreds of what i call "burner" addresses... these regular eth addresses group mne gen addresses together to send a larger amount of mne to certain places...this now links thousands of gen addresses to a single person.. how many to be exact, idk i cant keep count nor do i want to spend the time but everything provided below will be linked to that same address that collected the eth...

here is the address used to collect eth
0xaae9df016092cefde18f3918a9a73ad8fe0eb1a0

here are some burner addresses that have large amounts mne from gen address
0x77612c9da071b4481a4e1bdd9c614c6472b749b6
0xF032CE9B154be7329C4c7C8F0031D15aeff451ee
0xFE0208942675E3e0c5D12742ea8abaeA8F48F81F
0xabEa2b2beCC4c7335F0E5ee937214311AD795333
0x2DA502D602EbA3a656222fC861947a29771F3bAa
0x69Af051CDBc71fc7b2e757c399De779Dc3173737
0x971c5f32b2625f1b781291f082B722c82803403C
0x5D14F6F0A094c6706dd0A73aC889AA448E51017D


here is an address used to dump into live coin right as mne hit ath..... this also ties 100 gen addresses together
0xaE641Cc64f35AE1C3E0eD58D03Fea4885dfC307F

here is a burner address used for mne durning ATH and also arte ICO.... another 170 address linked together
0xcede51a076712196dcab014742616ac65e56673f

wonder why mne hit a low right when ico hit.. here is an addy sent to livecoin right before ico
0xcea94e97bd00dcadc94b13cfa2bbc1932e88b5a5

second day of ico???
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61

just not large amount of gen addresses pair... even smaller amounts to hide the link...
0xe603CB1fAd1f5Eb0B62CB48bF0049a9E803e5A22
0xe20c2ec41b6881ddc1e43602063c6cf3ff2876d8

another big burner address being sent to livecoin
0xf032ce9b154be7329c4c7c8f0031d15aeff451ee

what do all these have in common? look at the eth transaction... 36 days ago a bot took the left over eth out and sent to a single address.... all of these are linked together by that address..... and thats not even close to it.... what about the first deposits into livecoin....first addresses to deposit were all from a single source... dont believe me... check for yourself
0xe2f9484c422f393dc48d791e8cf1d17aa9713995
0x217EE4aFC8F8c0bB57075273ac2C264202305E12
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61
0xdC19457530b9a60808Ed60125273335e4160DfC5
0x1545d607723ffDe90B79b786b2cDe7277a79F5F8
0x4AA8252e42e1d41b41Fec1D368Ce17c98A808802
0xF0019be307F7756e45d6bfB0F5cc4BA2500274d8
0xc6e7853B83709e716aADD4B2b4c4CB51Bf8cf4cd
 0x7A638B9eD6471fE8Ffa08d9ffbD18aA13052a896
0x1624e4Afa6642D533A56DD5e97Cebc54dE9cC2eD
 0x7d08e8851DDA46C27bEefe3b644520A9a3Bc228E
0xB3a6b21ECc8eC69eE66FC26a77fa624A8c8126f9
0xa61Ab4398B9Ec923Ba02c575d97a9Cd86D390d7f
0x30c72242EaC5a89e8a5613F7c0CA872aF08176e2
0x69a3510902B7DEb6A290667D6514F5b82829DD77
0xdC19457530b9a60808Ed60125273335e4160DfC5
0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x9FF95361dd77CACb55d74d94348e60f0691F0f54
0xf280De47b474E1eAA942ae539Dd9Be570d43Ec1E
0x3f2700b9D800096f598736b643891CD74816CC98
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61
0x57D626c7a3a100A9C659601D3bd073225F3D43f3
0xc3d4114F5aedf579dd5E656B8Da23dca8A62a80f
0xED4F292bb7f85ccEB564613bebA41D5306f0E2fd
 0x8b092Af6dc3cA8654b00186CEEae2C0197B02deE
 0xb718Be046D4E6302eee08a06F65B9C1778C227FE
0x7A638B9eD6471fE8Ffa08d9ffbD18aA13052a896
0x15dc6BeBBD91AE7B96c0D0e5671539470b026611
0xE7689B56aD80D1834C6DCB2105A14A4Ca30b17e9
0x00d0c98ed04dec0cffe571a9deed871feabc34f6
 0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x7b247822De8763C3CDa86b5680E14f3A20B78B98    
0x77612C9Da071b4481a4E1bdD9c614C6472B749B6
0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x8fD10Ac278badB13a2e296f2EEe06bfCDcCa9378
0x69a3510902B7DEb6A290667D6514F5b82829DD77
0x00D0C98ed04DEC0cFFe571A9DeeD871feAbC34F6
0xd61850Ff0b28B72864F4e5E543a0a652E7ab7b61
0xE2f9484C422F393Dc48d791e8cF1D17Aa9713995
0x396BD4FB0708A847298e7C32CFc1c91F342Eb5A5
0xa459DCED416eFAdcecfa3A0E8bA99Dcad358EdcD   -------1 coin deposits
0x69Af051CDBc71fc7b2e757c399De779Dc3173737
0x28B5Bd9dE137342240E0A404d6F13a7a3121c415
0x9FF95361dd77CACb55d74d94348e60f0691F0f54
0xfcD9309aB791F1aB6cda79c1EDe24E8B342Fad2D
0xc3d4114F5aedf579dd5E656B8Da23dca8A62a80f
0x9b6A2FAB03D506BEd470D7Fea67D23E53E52DDeC



wanna take some more research yourself... go to mne gen address list... pick ANY random address and i bet MOST will link to the ETH addresses i provided

i said most.. why??? a few reasons... like the first example i gave you... those 816 addresses dont link.. why... they were inactive 36 days ago... also one more address that doesnt link but has 128 addresses in a single burner address ready to be sent....
0xC40B312169c7F8d93679EF1E91da989693cB5f93

all this really shows is that 1 person might have close to all of the mne gen addresses... or maybe a few people have almost all of them.... more money for the project some might say.. i dont really care... what im trying to give you is the information you HAVENT been given.... please look around and tell me what i missed

Dev or not, it is obvious that SOMEONE holds a considerable amount of genesis addresses. Which basically means that we the common people who only have one, will NEVER be able to sell our coins at a good price. Because he/they can flood the market with their coins from their addresses.

[jofox]

@minereum

Thank you for your great information for us who always support the minereum.

I just ask about artemines, I have read about artemine that are not good. because I also invest in artemine.