UK Election on 8th June (and ensuing aftermath)

[criptix]

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Af_newbie:

Why dont you move to north korea? Everything what you want and more is real there.

Why don't you move to Saudi Arabia? You will be closer to Mecca.

Because im no muslim and disapprove of the sauds?
Are you able to read?

You can post from north korea and tell us how great it is there.

So go to Chechnya that is where you from, right?

There are now depending on whom you believe atleast 193 countries left where i could come from.
I can tell you i wont be your neighbour when you move to north korea, so now are atleast 192 nations left.

Btw. How comes you expect me to be russian? Last time i read RT and breitbart they said russians do not like muslims or immigrants. :S

And it seems you dont want to live in NoKor even though there exist everything what you wish for.
I wonder why?

Lulz

[shroomzcoin]

£10 an minimum wage, we will no longer have a service industry, all call centres will close

I work in a call centre and can confirm this is just speculation.  With the Q1 profits they announced, they can definitely afford it, even with a workforce of over 300 people (although I'm sure they'd take the opportunity to reduce commission if the base pay is higher, so I probably won't see much difference anyway).

Call centers in the Philippines pay around £2 per hour for their workers, and the quality is almost equal to those within the United Kingdom. In addition to that the taxes are also lower in the Philippines. It is just a matter of time, before the "great flight" begins.

And to the other guy, i can afford to shop in house of fraiser, but i dont as i would spend most my money, just like these companies, they could pay the extra wages, or just move to somewhere like the Philippines and save 80%

There will always be huge tax evasion/avoidance schemes, but UK corporation tax is one of the lowest in the G20 already.  Average corporation tax has been falling and falling as all countries, especially the UK, delude themselves into believing that companies will all just run off.  I don't know when it's going to happen but it sure hasn't yet.

Pretending that all Labour's plans are somehow unaffordable is ridiculous.  The Attlee government nationalised the coal industry, Bank of England, health service (created the NHS), electricity, cable and wireless networks, trains/rail, waterways, gas and the steel industry.  They even created zero unemployment, only had six years, and ran a surplus.

Why do people act like all these things are impractical today?

Because if you just look at the figures, they dont add up, they are good policies and good for the public except it will ruin the country and leave us with less money than ever. And have you seen the state of our council services atm, its run by a bunch of monkeys and labour already proved 10 years ago they manage it worse, and they want it all nationalized? they couldn't run a piss up in a brewery, so how do you think the trains will run under nationalization, bear in mind they would have to pay off richard branson and the others for taking their business that they have spent 100+hours a week working for their entire lives, im guessing virgin trains will not be a cheap buyout either, surerly a few billion then would have to set it all up again, labour will destroy the country if they get in, kinda why im voting for them.

[DooMAD]

Because if you just look at the figures, they dont add up

Here are the names of 100+ economists who think tory austerity doesn't add up.  Are you telling me each and every one of them is wrong?

i was a nurse back in 2005 just before the country was spiraling into debt

And what connection do you currently hold with the NHS?  Because all the people I know who work in the NHS right now say it's worse under the tories.  Think I'll be taking their word over yours, cheers.  Plus, the solution certainly isn't to sell off the NHS on the cheap, which is what the tories are all for.  The satirists can see it, why can't you?

[shroomzcoin]

Because if you just look at the figures, they dont add up

Here are the names of 100+ economists who think tory austerity doesn't add up.  Are you telling me each and every one of them is wrong?

i was a nurse back in 2005 just before the country was spiraling into debt

And what connection do you currently hold with the NHS?  Because all the people I know who work in the NHS right now say it's worse under the tories.  Think I'll be taking their word over yours, cheers.

i left a long time ago when they started closing local hospitals down, never went back. Nursing stopped being about nursing a long time ago, when you spend 90% of your day doing paperwork and only 10% actually looking after patient its just not nursing. Went back to uni and became a bookkeeper, get paid a lot more for doing the same amount of paperwork. And yes of course it will be worse, labour plunged it into billions of debt that HAD to be paid back, that is only possible with cuts to all the services, how else will the NHS pay the money back? i was saying it back then that everything was being wasted and most of the staff were lazy, getting paid 20k+ a year for actually doing nothing, cleaning up 1 spill a day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp-2__k7I1o is why you cant have the NHS labour wants, they tried it and ruined it, tories left to pick up the debt, again with stupid notes left by the labour cabinet saying haha the money is all gone, does that sound like a responsible government to you?

[Sithara007]

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Af_newbie:

Why dont you move to north korea? Everything what you want and more is real there.

Why don't you move to Saudi Arabia? You will be closer to Mecca.

Saudi Arabia does not give citizenship to non-Saudis. Officially, there is a pathway for citizenship for the Muslim expats who have continuously resided in KSA for 20 years, but it is very rarely honored. And citizenship for non-Muslims is banned altogether.

[DooMAD]

Speaking of Saudi Arabia, an independent candidate, Nicholas Wilson, in the Hastings and Rye constituency was trying to raise the issue of how arms sales to the region weaken our security.  The current Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, shut him down by passing a note to the moderator.  He then tried to move onto the subject of the tories shutting down the Serious Fraud Office, but again, was shut down.  Or, perhaps it was the part right at the beginning, where he pointed out the conflict of interest with the Prime Minister's husband being tied to HSBC, who are known money launderers who fund terrorism.  Either way, this is no excuse to resort to totalitarianism to silence dissent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w


Mr Wilson then had to take to social media to continue making his point:

https://www.facebook.com/realmediaUK/videos/1335994809823388/


But it will only be so long before we can't do that either, with the tories looking to place restrictions on the internet "coz terrists", as if that were somehow the problem.  NewsThump probably gave the best response in the form of this:

http://newsthump.com/2017/06/05/uk-hasnt-done-enough-to-tackle-terrorism-says-woman-whose-job-it-was-to-tackle-terrorism/

UK hasn’t done enough to tackle terrorism, says woman whose job it was to tackle terrorism

The UK hasn’t done enough to tackle terrorist extremists in the UK, according to the woman responsible for doing just that for the last six years.

Prime Minister Theresa May took the unprecedented step of attacking her own track record in tackling extremism when talking the reporters today.

She told the press, “The UK has not done enough to defeat extremism, and I should know because it was very specifically my job.

“When I say we haven’t done enough, I can be sure I’m correct in that assessment because everything we did for the last six years in trying to tackle extremism went across my desk as Home Secretary, and was specifically approved by me.

“So when I say we haven’t done enough, I am basically saying I was a bit shit at my job for quite a number of years.

“That’s how confident I am about this election; I can openly admit I did a bad job, but you lot will still vote for me because Jeremy Corbyn looks a bit awkward in a suit.

Satire, but only by the smallest of margins.  It couldn't be much closer to the sad reality we face.

[popcorn1]

Speaking of Saudi Arabia, an independent candidate, Nicholas Wilson, in the Hastings and Rye constituency was trying to raise the issue of how arms sales to the region weaken our security.  The current Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, shut him down by passing a note to the moderator.  He then tried to move onto the subject of the tories shutting down the Serious Fraud Office, but again, was shut down.  Or, perhaps it was the part right at the beginning, where he pointed out the conflict of interest with the Prime Minister's husband being tied to HSBC, who are known money launderers who fund terrorism.  Either way, this is no excuse to resort to totalitarianism to silence dissent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w


Mr Wilson then had to take to social media to continue making his point:

https://www.facebook.com/realmediaUK/videos/1335994809823388/


But it will only be so long before we can't do that either, with the tories looking to place restrictions on the internet "coz terrists", as if that were somehow the problem.  NewsThump probably gave the best response in the form of this:

http://newsthump.com/2017/06/05/uk-hasnt-done-enough-to-tackle-terrorism-says-woman-whose-job-it-was-to-tackle-terrorism/

UK hasn’t done enough to tackle terrorism, says woman whose job it was to tackle terrorism

The UK hasn’t done enough to tackle terrorist extremists in the UK, according to the woman responsible for doing just that for the last six years.

Prime Minister Theresa May took the unprecedented step of attacking her own track record in tackling extremism when talking the reporters today.

She told the press, “The UK has not done enough to defeat extremism, and I should know because it was very specifically my job.

“When I say we haven’t done enough, I can be sure I’m correct in that assessment because everything we did for the last six years in trying to tackle extremism went across my desk as Home Secretary, and was specifically approved by me.

“So when I say we haven’t done enough, I am basically saying I was a bit shit at my job for quite a number of years.

“That’s how confident I am about this election; I can openly admit I did a bad job, but you lot will still vote for me because Jeremy Corbyn looks a bit awkward in a suit.

Satire, but only by the smallest of margins.  It couldn't be much closer to the sad reality we face.

Amber Rudd and Theresa may..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqHTHsgW6ho


I forgot here husband is a bankster gangster < Money Predators the worst of the lot..
They cause trouble for the stock markets ..UP or DOWN ..

If you know something go down
If you know something go ups  ..

SHE IS ANOTHER HILLARY CLINTON ..THERESA MAY..AKA ZELDA..<with an haircut..

[Qartada]

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Af_newbie:

Why dont you move to north korea? Everything what you want and more is real there.

Why don't you move to Saudi Arabia? You will be closer to Mecca.

Saudi Arabia does not give citizenship to non-Saudis. Officially, there is a pathway for citizenship for the Muslim expats who have continuously resided in KSA for 20 years, but it is very rarely honored. And citizenship for non-Muslims is banned altogether.

And why the Western democracies are not following the same rules?  Saudis are smarter than Westerners.

Oh, so you're against freedom then.  What values are you even protecting when you hate Muslims so much?  You just associate Muslim nations with evil, then argue that Western nations should do exactly the same things as them?

Are you even listening to yourself?

[popcorn1]

Theresa May says the internet must now be regulated following ...
www.independent.co.uk › News › UK › UK Politics
2 days ago - New international agreements should be introduced to regulate the internet in the light of the London Bridge terror attack, Theresa May has said. ... London attack shows too much tolerance for extremism in UK, May says. ... “We need to work with allied democratic governments to reach

Theresa May: London Bridge attack shows 'we are too ... - Sky News
news.sky.com/.../theresa-may-london-bridge-attack-shows-we-are-too-tolerant-of-extr...
2 days ago - Theresa May: London Bridge attack shows 'we are too tolerant of extremism'. After the van and knife attack in London, the Prime Minister says

She said extremism is creating extremism ..WOW

I thought it was ISLAM
I mean you got the taliban and many other islamic faiths killing each other in other countries

Pakistan you die for blasphemy   Africa they cut women's pussies
and also some fathers and family members will kill there own family members for shaming the religion..

NOW WHAT CREATES this in our land ..HMMMM let me GUESS ..

would it be inviting many many different belief systems all living in little BRITAIN
to spread there way of life NOT OUR WAY but there way..

I mean why would a guy from Pakistan believe in our way     if in his own country he hates
blasphemers he would still hate them HERE..

And TO ALL MUSLIMS ..

ISLAM AS NO MEANING IN THE UK..IT'S OUR COUNTRY.. ;)WE FUCKING HATE IT..
AND ALWAYS WILL..

We the UK never had Muslims telling us it's there country NO IT'S FUCKING NOT..

The only reason why is because GREEDY TWAT POLITICIANS take SAUDI MONEY..

THEY SOLD US OUT..

I am SICK OF MUSLIMS saying it's our country IT'S NOT..

THE UK IS NO MUSLIM COUNTRY ..And it never ever will be CIVIL WAR BEFORE IT DOES..

Why would we want you horrible little twats running around our nation?..
YOUR RELIGION IS THE RELIGION OF SHIT..

And no wonder INDIA fucking moved you all out .
To make your own land called PAKISTAN..

So if YOU MUSLIMS ARE SO GOOD ..

WHY THE FUCK DID INDIA ..MOVE YOU OUT?..

I mean if something is so good you keep it.. So how good was you for INDIA..
Remember you are PAKISTANI are really Indians ..

So the INDIANS thought get those CRAZY MUSLIM INDIANS out because they don't bring nothing BUT
SHIT..

[popcorn1]

And when immigrants come over have you ever heard the expression like father like son..
Well his father come from PAKISTAN  and he hate many things we westerners do..

And i bet some rub off onto the CHILDREN..

Don't do this don't do that from the father ..Then when child grows up don't do this and don't do that..

DO WHAT ..Well anything is father could of brought from PAKISTAN ..

[Spendulus]

How much Saudi money did the PM take, would you know?

[protokol]

Jihadism should be criminalized.

Well it's not exactly legal, is it, you prat.  

If British people elect the Labour party it would mean they either don't care or don't understand what is going on.

You don't understand what's going on.  The things the terrorists hate most are our freedom, democracy, tolerance, pluralism and decency.  It's nothing more than provocation on their part.  They want you to lower yourself to their level.  They're goading you into fighting on their terms.  They know that the more we try to tighten our grip, the more radicalised individuals we create.  They want you to abandon all the things that make us who we are to fight them.  Stop falling for it like an idiot.  Stop giving in.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking.  You're giving extremists exactly what they want, namely more extremism and further escalation.  You don't defeat terrorists by letting them win.

Try thinking it through to conclusion for a change.  There are ways to beat terrorism that don't include debasing your morals to the point that you're no better than they are.  Pity you're already there, though.  Just don't expect the rest of us to join you.

Great post.

This is what I don't understand about the mindset of a Tory voter - The party will literally and flagrantly take away the freedoms that make Britain so great. Their nonsense about censoring the internet is especially worrying, yet they fail to put police on the street where they can actually make a difference. Theresa May cut thousands of police jobs when she was Home Secretary.

Not to mention the immmigration debate which is ridiculous on two levels: Firstly the Conservative party has failed to curb immigration and it has increased while they were in power; secondly the majority of the terrorist attacks in recent months have been made by British citizens, so their immigration policy wouldn't have worked anyway.

A vote for the Tories is not in 90% of the members' of this forum's interest...

[popcorn1]

How much Saudi money did the PM take, would you know?

Well we wont know until the future like this..

Mark Thatcher accused: Sources say he got 12m pounds from arms ...
www.independent.co.uk/.../mark-thatcher-accused-sources-say-he-got-12m-pounds-fr...
8 Oct 1994 - MARK THATCHER made millions of pounds from Britain's huge ... publish, Mr Sheldon said there had been 'no evidence of fraud or corruption'.

Thatcher made secrecy pact with Saudi king over 'corrupt' arms deal ...
https://www.rt.com/uk/310030-saudi-thatcher/
16 Jul 2015 - Margaret Thatcher promised Saudi Arabia secrecy ahead of a £43 ... They were being investigated by Britain's Serious Fraud Office at the time..


And that's why they want to do this...

London Attack: Theresa May Wants to Transform the Internet | Time.com
time.com/4805645/theresa-may-london-attack-internet/
1 day ago - Theresa May Wants to Regulate Cyberspace After the London Attack. ... British Prime Minister Theresa May has focused on vastly improved regulation of the internet since the U.K. suffered its third terrorist attack in the space of three months on Saturday. ..


SHE IS A SNAKE ..So maybe we will know how much in the future or maybe we will never know nothing because the internet been SHUT DOWN.. ..

And Bitcoin will be worth 1p ..

CRIPTIX will shit his pants

[popcorn1]

Jihadism should be criminalized.

Well it's not exactly legal, is it, you prat.  

If British people elect the Labour party it would mean they either don't care or don't understand what is going on.

You don't understand what's going on.  The things the terrorists hate most are our freedom, democracy, tolerance, pluralism and decency.  It's nothing more than provocation on their part.  They want you to lower yourself to their level.  They're goading you into fighting on their terms.  They know that the more we try to tighten our grip, the more radicalised individuals we create.  They want you to abandon all the things that make us who we are to fight them.  Stop falling for it like an idiot.  Stop giving in.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking.  You're giving extremists exactly what they want, namely more extremism and further escalation.  You don't defeat terrorists by letting them win.

Try thinking it through to conclusion for a change.  There are ways to beat terrorism that don't include debasing your morals to the point that you're no better than they are.  Pity you're already there, though.  Just don't expect the rest of us to join you.

Great post.

This is what I don't understand about the mindset of a Tory voter - The party will literally and flagrantly take away the freedoms that make Britain so great. Their nonsense about censoring the internet is especially worrying, yet they fail to put police on the street where they can actually make a difference. Theresa May cut thousands of police jobs when she was Home Secretary.

Not to mention the immmigration debate which is ridiculous on two levels: Firstly the Conservative party has failed to curb immigration and it has increased while they were in power; secondly the majority of the terrorist attacks in recent months have been made by British citizens, so their immigration policy wouldn't have worked anyway.

A vote for the Tories is not in 90% of the members' of this forum's interest...

secondly the majority of the terrorist attacks in recent months have been made by British citizens..

BUT NOT NATIVES  ..^^^

The parents come over for a job and have a baby and then teach that child WHAT?..

Well if i am from ITALY i will teach my child even though i live in Spain how to make PASTA
or become a gangster the MAFIA and will teach them CHRISTIANITY ..

Now if your from CHINA even though you live in the UK you teach your child how to make PEKING DUCK and have a BET..

Now if your from PAKISTAN you will teach your child to do WHAT even though you live in Spain?..
would they teach the daughters to go out and enjoy themselves and have a boy friend?..
would they teach them CHRISTIANITY and to forgive all?..

I could imagine they teach them the ways of the KORAN being a MUSLIM

[protokol]

Jihadism should be criminalized.

Well it's not exactly legal, is it, you prat.  

If British people elect the Labour party it would mean they either don't care or don't understand what is going on.

You don't understand what's going on.  The things the terrorists hate most are our freedom, democracy, tolerance, pluralism and decency.  It's nothing more than provocation on their part.  They want you to lower yourself to their level.  They're goading you into fighting on their terms.  They know that the more we try to tighten our grip, the more radicalised individuals we create.  They want you to abandon all the things that make us who we are to fight them.  Stop falling for it like an idiot.  Stop giving in.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking.  You're giving extremists exactly what they want, namely more extremism and further escalation.  You don't defeat terrorists by letting them win.

Try thinking it through to conclusion for a change.  There are ways to beat terrorism that don't include debasing your morals to the point that you're no better than they are.  Pity you're already there, though.  Just don't expect the rest of us to join you.

Great post.

This is what I don't understand about the mindset of a Tory voter - The party will literally and flagrantly take away the freedoms that make Britain so great. Their nonsense about censoring the internet is especially worrying, yet they fail to put police on the street where they can actually make a difference. Theresa May cut thousands of police jobs when she was Home Secretary.

Not to mention the immmigration debate which is ridiculous on two levels: Firstly the Conservative party has failed to curb immigration and it has increased while they were in power; secondly the majority of the terrorist attacks in recent months have been made by British citizens, so their immigration policy wouldn't have worked anyway.

A vote for the Tories is not in 90% of the members' of this forum's interest...

secondly the majority of the terrorist attacks in recent months have been made by British citizens..

BUT NOT NATIVES  ..^^^

The parents come over for a job and have a baby and then teach that child WHAT?..

Well if i am from ITALY i will teach my child even though i live in Spain how to make PASTA
or become a gangster the MAFIA and will teach them CHRISTIANITY ..

Now if your from CHINA even though you live in the UK you teach your child how to make PEKING DUCK and have a BET..

Now if your from PAKISTAN you will teach your child to do WHAT even though you live in Spain?..
would they teach the daughters to go out and enjoy themselves and have a boy friend?..
would they teach them CHRISTIANITY and to forgive all?..

I could imagine they teach them the ways of the KORAN being a MUSLIM

Natives, Schmatives.

I get your point though, you're saying that the terrorists have Islamic roots.

Perhaps the UK should have been more restrictive on its immigration policy 50 years ago...

But don't forget that if that were the case, we probably wouldn't have the NHS, which benefited hugely from Pakistani and Indian immigrants in the 70s and 80s.

if our country wasn't able to get these qualified, immigrant nurses and doctors, we probably wouldn't have a free health service right now.

[popcorn1]

Jihadism should be criminalized.

Well it's not exactly legal, is it, you prat.  

If British people elect the Labour party it would mean they either don't care or don't understand what is going on.

You don't understand what's going on.  The things the terrorists hate most are our freedom, democracy, tolerance, pluralism and decency.  It's nothing more than provocation on their part.  They want you to lower yourself to their level.  They're goading you into fighting on their terms.  They know that the more we try to tighten our grip, the more radicalised individuals we create.  They want you to abandon all the things that make us who we are to fight them.  Stop falling for it like an idiot.  Stop giving in.

For every person calling for a crackdown, deportations, destruction of mosques, etc, you are the ones attacking the exact same freedoms that the terrorists themselves are attacking.  You're giving extremists exactly what they want, namely more extremism and further escalation.  You don't defeat terrorists by letting them win.

Try thinking it through to conclusion for a change.  There are ways to beat terrorism that don't include debasing your morals to the point that you're no better than they are.  Pity you're already there, though.  Just don't expect the rest of us to join you.

Great post.

This is what I don't understand about the mindset of a Tory voter - The party will literally and flagrantly take away the freedoms that make Britain so great. Their nonsense about censoring the internet is especially worrying, yet they fail to put police on the street where they can actually make a difference. Theresa May cut thousands of police jobs when she was Home Secretary.

Not to mention the immmigration debate which is ridiculous on two levels: Firstly the Conservative party has failed to curb immigration and it has increased while they were in power; secondly the majority of the terrorist attacks in recent months have been made by British citizens, so their immigration policy wouldn't have worked anyway.

A vote for the Tories is not in 90% of the members' of this forum's interest...

secondly the majority of the terrorist attacks in recent months have been made by British citizens..

BUT NOT NATIVES  ..^^^

The parents come over for a job and have a baby and then teach that child WHAT?..

Well if i am from ITALY i will teach my child even though i live in Spain how to make PASTA
or become a gangster the MAFIA and will teach them CHRISTIANITY ..

Now if your from CHINA even though you live in the UK you teach your child how to make PEKING DUCK and have a BET..

Now if your from PAKISTAN you will teach your child to do WHAT even though you live in Spain?..
would they teach the daughters to go out and enjoy themselves and have a boy friend?..
would they teach them CHRISTIANITY and to forgive all?..

I could imagine they teach them the ways of the KORAN being a MUSLIM

Natives, Schmatives.

I get your point though, you're saying that the terrorists have Islamic roots.

Perhaps the UK should have been more restrictive on its immigration policy 50 years ago...

But don't forget that if that were the case, we probably wouldn't have the NHS, which benefited hugely from Pakistani and Indian immigrants in the 70s and 80s.

if our country wasn't able to get these qualified, immigrant nurses and doctors, we probably wouldn't have a free health service right now.

if our country wasn't able to get these qualified, immigrant nurses and doctors, we probably wouldn't have a free health service right now.

You are so right BUT why ISLAMS why not GREECE ITALY CANADA all with many people looking for a job..

And as for India they have never been a problem NOT EVER ..
I love the NONE MUSLIM Indians  ..They are apart of our culture they will mix ..

But even they cannot over fill our nation NOT ENOUGH getting built to cope..
Like a football stadium only so many seats  then you need to shut the doors..

But the ISLAM is a crazy belief system that many do not like ONLY A MUSLIM does..
And who's RELIGION is causing all THIS?..

Not me i don't believe in FAIRY TALES..
And many British people don't believe in fairy tales SO you can imagine the shock when someone kills people because we don't believe what they believe..FAIRY TALES..

So you begin to wonder are these people for real?..
And not very many are saying it's the Islam..


If i went in your shop and blew your shop up and said THIS IS FOR HORSES ..
You would tell the police he killed for WHAT?..  For sheep..

If they go in and said this               allahu akbar  this is for the infidels
then you would say to the police they done it for what..

WELL GIVE YOURSELF A PAT ON THE BACK..Oh and 10 house points and a gold star..

[protokol]

Who said I hate Muslims? I don't hate people.

I hate the Islamist ideology.  I am all for freedom.

Freedom does not mean you allow the enemy to operate on your territory.

When you are at war, you need to protect your country and protect your borders.  You do this to protect your freedoms, you little twit!!!

Firstly, there is no war. There are dumbass annoying twats blowing shit up - they are not part of an army. If there was an army, then there would be multiple attacks every day, and that's not the case.

The war on terror is not a real war. It is a clash of ideologies of the west, and the individual extremist Islamists who choose to counter those ideologies. They are obviously tiny in number, as you are more likely to be killed by some furniture in the UK, than by a terrorist. They are pretty much all lone wolves.

Secondly, protecting our borders will do absolutely no good, as the people that carry out these attacks are predominantly British citizens already.

[af_newbie]

Who said I hate Muslims? I don't hate people.

I hate the Islamist ideology.  I am all for freedom.

Freedom does not mean you allow the enemy to operate on your territory.

When you are at war, you need to protect your country and protect your borders.  You do this to protect your freedoms, you little twit!!!

Firstly, there is no war. There are dumbass annoying twats blowing shit up - they are not part of an army. If there was an army, then there would be multiple attacks every day, and that's not the case.

The war on terror is not a real war. It is a clash of ideologies of the west, and the individual extremist Islamists who choose to counter those ideologies. They are obviously tiny in number, as you are more likely to be killed by some furniture in the UK, than by a terrorist. They are pretty much all lone wolves.

Secondly, protecting our borders will do absolutely no good, as the people that carry out these attacks are predominantly British citizens already.

You are in denial.  Go ahead, wait until you'll have multiple attacks every day. 

If you are non-Muslim go and live in Dearborn, MI.  See how long you'll last.

I think you are simply ill-informed and brainwashed.

[protokol]

Who said I hate Muslims? I don't hate people.

I hate the Islamist ideology.  I am all for freedom.

Freedom does not mean you allow the enemy to operate on your territory.

When you are at war, you need to protect your country and protect your borders.  You do this to protect your freedoms, you little twit!!!

Firstly, there is no war. There are dumbass annoying twats blowing shit up - they are not part of an army. If there was an army, then there would be multiple attacks every day, and that's not the case.

The war on terror is not a real war. It is a clash of ideologies of the west, and the individual extremist Islamists who choose to counter those ideologies. They are obviously tiny in number, as you are more likely to be killed by some furniture in the UK, than by a terrorist. They are pretty much all lone wolves.

Secondly, protecting our borders will do absolutely no good, as the people that carry out these attacks are predominantly British citizens already.

You are in denial.  Go ahead, wait until you'll have multiple attacks every day. 

If you are non-Muslim go and live in Dearborn, MI.  See how long you'll last.

I think you are simply ill-informed and brainwashed.

Nice arguments... oh wait. You didn't actually say anything.

A. You claim to predict the future.
B. You presume my religion and ask me to live somewhere else.
C. You present an ad hominem attack on my character.

Try addressing my points, rather than spouting random bullshit.

[protokol]

I'm not watching youtube videos.

If you want to convince me you're gonna have to use words like a civilised person.