UK Election on 8th June (and ensuing aftermath)

[valta4065]

You will lose if you are not more brutal than they are.

The perfect American
If a problem isn't solved with bombs it means you haven't used enough bombs right?

Please you ugly stupid motherfucker, could you try to use your FUCKING BRAIN FOR ONCE IN YOUR PATHETIC LIFETIME?

Damn I got angry
You can't fight ideals and ideas with violence it just DOESN'T WORK!
What are you going to do? Bomb the whole Middle East without any consideration towards innocent citizens? Fine! Imagine we do that, what will happen next?

GREAT JOB! By bombing the whole Middle East and killing millions of innocents you actually gave AN EXCELLENT reasons for citizens of all around the world to hate you, despize you and try to destroy you! You MIGHT HAVE DESTROYED ONE TERRORIST GROUP (and it's not guaranteed at all unless you use 500 atomic bombs) and you created 50 new ones! Excellent really!

USE YOUR BRAIN

Give me ONE EXAMPLE, just ONE, of a country that managed to annihilate terrorism or guerilla through war!
answer: there are none!!!

And to even think people like you vote ><
But sure, go on do like the Americans, 40 years of wars all around the world, 40 years of defeats, 40 years of creating more and more terrorists, 40 years of simply giving more money to weapons producers...

[yoseph]

Vote for anti-Islamic politician, if you don't, your grandchildren will be Muslim.

There are no viable choices. The Labor party is the worst, but the Tories are not too far behind. Both are in for Muslim appeasement. And the UKIP is having hardly any chances in most of the regions, although they are very moderate.

I am not a fan of the Tories, but they are the best option right now, Since Blair left, the Labour part has been in tatters, their leader Corbyn is a joke and I don't know how come he hasn't been challenged yet for the leadership of the party.

[gentlemand]

Natives, Schmatives.

I get your point though, you're saying that the terrorists have Islamic roots.

Perhaps the UK should have been more restrictive on its immigration policy 50 years ago...

But don't forget that if that were the case, we probably wouldn't have the NHS, which benefited hugely from Pakistani and Indian immigrants in the 70s and 80s.

if our country wasn't able to get these qualified, immigrant nurses and doctors, we probably wouldn't have a free health service right now.

Until 1962 I believe every single member of the Commonwealth had the right to live and work in the UK. That would've added up to about 800 million people which would've been a squeeze.

The Daily Mail has now gone full retard - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4578716/Apologists-terror-Corbyn-McDonnell-Abbott.html

Judging by the comments even White Van Man is tiring a little now, or it's been invaded by Momentum.

[protokol]

Vote for anti-Islamic politician, if you don't, your grandchildren will be Muslim.

There are no viable choices. The Labor party is the worst, but the Tories are not too far behind. Both are in for Muslim appeasement. And the UKIP is having hardly any chances in most of the regions, although they are very moderate.

I am not a fan of the Tories, but they are the best option right now, Since Blair left, the Labour part has been in tatters, their leader Corbyn is a joke and I don't know how come he hasn't been challenged yet for the leadership of the party.

You must be rich, or disillusioned.

The Tories are in bed with big business, they will allow the inequality of the UK to become even more pronounced, by enforcing taxes on the poor and middle class, and allow offshore businesses to operate on our shores with zero contributions.

They will give more power to the financial sector, hurting Bitcoin. They will enforce surveillance, both on our internet connections and our streets, invading the privacy of the population.

They will fail to counter terrorist attacks, because they think that they can counter them with "internet surveillance", "banning encryption", "forcing companies to allow back doors in software", and "not allowing safe spaces on the internet".

Thanks Theresa, for cutting 20% of our police officers when you were Home Secretary, police officers that could have prevented terrorist attacks. Instead you funnel our taxes into internet surveillance which achieves nothing (and many might argue endangers the privacy and civil liberties of your citizens).

They refuse to legalise drugs - even when the majority of the USA is legalising marijuana for recreational use, they fail to see the moral side of the issue, and exempt our economy from the huge amount of revenue that this would generate. Because they need the votes of old, stupid people.

They are stupid, archaic, and out of touch with the world of technology.

I'm not a huge fan of Labour, but the Tories are fucking obsolete in terms of the technological world we live in today. I would hope that anyone on a Bitcoin forum could see that, and tactically vote against them.

Bitcoin: This Machine Kills Inconveniences Tories

[protokol]

Natives, Schmatives.

I get your point though, you're saying that the terrorists have Islamic roots.

Perhaps the UK should have been more restrictive on its immigration policy 50 years ago...

But don't forget that if that were the case, we probably wouldn't have the NHS, which benefited hugely from Pakistani and Indian immigrants in the 70s and 80s.

if our country wasn't able to get these qualified, immigrant nurses and doctors, we probably wouldn't have a free health service right now.

Until 1962 I believe every single member of the Commonwealth had the right to live and work in the UK. That would've added up to about 800 million people which would've been a squeeze.

The Daily Mail has now gone full retard - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4578716/Apologists-terror-Corbyn-McDonnell-Abbott.html

Judging by the comments even White Van Man is tiring a little now, or it's been invaded by Momentum.

Bloody hell, I didn't read it all but the first few paragraphs read like full-on smear tactics, spin and scathing propaganda. I think they're scared...

It's funny you mention "White Van Man". I know of the demographic, but perhaps if Theresa banned actual white vans, and kitchen knives, she might do a better job of combatting terrorism than demanding back doors in our internet applications...

[Sithara007]

How much Saudi money did the PM take, would you know?

Everyone takes the Saudi money. What is wrong in it? It will be wrong to blame Theresa May for it, when Jeremy Corbyn is even more likely to accept funds from the GCC nations such as KSA and the United Arab Emirates.

[DooMAD]

How much Saudi money did the PM take, would you know?

Since March 2015, the UK Government has approved 194 export licences for arms and related equipment to Saudi Arabia, worth an estimated £3.5 billion.  This is despite numerous calls to halt arms exports after Saudi airstrikes in Yemen have violated international law.

These arms sales themselves are also in direct contravention of international law.  The UK is a signed and ratified member of the Arms Trade Treaty, aiming to restrict the number of weapons that could be used for war crimes:

The Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) was adopted by the UN General Assembly to regulate the international trade in conventional arms by establishing the highest international standards and to prevent and eradicate illicit trade and diversion of conventional arms.
The ATT contributes to international and regional peace, security and stability, reducing human suffering, and promoting cooperation, transparency and responsible action among the international community.

The UK now completely undermines this treaty and acts in violation of it.


All this while the government attempt to bury a report into the funding of terrorism doesn't look good, to put it mildly.  You can listen to what the Foreign Secretary, Boris "Arseclown" Johnson, struggles to get the words out to say about it here.

A human rights charity has also warned that May risks handing terrorists their greatest victory:

"Our human rights laws are the legacy of World War Two, the brainchild of a Conservative Prime Minister and drafted by British lawyers. They're a beacon of hope for those still fighting for basic rights elsewhere. And, most importantly, they continue to help ordinary people all over this country - from trafficking victims to the Hillsborough families.

"If Theresa May does what she threatens, she will go down in history as the Prime Minister who handed terrorists their greatest victory. For cheap political points and headlines, she is willing to undermine our democracy, our freedom and our rights – the very things these violent murderers seek to attack.

"All this and we'll be no safer – our security services and police already have vast powers to tackle terror and hate speech and monitor those they suspect of doing us harm."

In other news, tory 'strong and stable' advertising van overturns in the wind.  

And May becomes the first serving Prime Minister in 7 General Elections to refuse an interview with the great British institution that is Jon Snow.  Shameful.




Maybe it's due to the humiliating but accurate hammering she took the last time she faced off with a veteran interviewer, when this happened:

[DooMAD]

BREAKING NEWS:

Why am I only reading just now, the day before the election, that both London attacker Rachid Redouane and Salman Abedi, the Manchester bomber fought in the 2011 British/NATO war against Gaddafi?

People are now saying that they were both recruited by MI5 to fight in Libya and Syria.  The reason that being frequently reported to the PREVENT program did nothing is because they weren't on a watchlist, they were on our own government's payroll!

It’s little wonder that just one day before the general election, Theresa May has gone camera shy. Theresa May is hiding from questions by journalists about her activities as Home Secretary which saw the recruitment of British Jihadis by MI5 to fight in Libya and Syria and who were given freedom of movement and funding to come in and out of the UK as they pleased. Hiding from questions about her selling Billions of pounds of weaponry to Saudi Arabia, the biggest supplier of weapons to ISIS. Hiding from questions about cutting military personnel by 35,000, police numbers by 20,000 and firefighters by 10,000.

"A London attacker and UK covert operations in Syria and Libya. The Telegraph reports that London attacker Rachid Redouane fought in the 2011 British/NATO war against Qadafi – as did Salman Abedi, the Manchester bomber – and joined a militia which went on to send jihadist fighters to Syria. In Libya, he is believed to have fought with the Liwa al Ummah unit.
http://markcurtis.info/2017/06/07/a-london-attacker-and-uk-covert-operations-in-syria-and-libya/#_ftn1

"'Sorted' by MI5: How UK government sent British-Libyans to fight Gaddafi"
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/sorted-mi5-how-uk-government-sent-british-libyans-fight-gaddafi-1219906488

"TERROR IN BRITAIN: WHAT DID THE PRIME MINISTER KNOW?"
http://johnpilger.com/articles/terror-in-britain-what-did-the-prime-minister-know

"British Libyans and Libyan exiles in Britain, who saw their “control orders” lifted and their passports returned by MI5 six years ago so they could go and fight Gaddafi were never going to turn into sober citizens the day after his fall. Just as the link is undeniable between the perpetrators of 9/11 and the US and Saudi backing for Jihadis fighting the Communists in Afghanistan in the 1980s, so too is the connection between the Manchester bombing and the British Government using Salafi-jihadis from the UK to get rid of Gaddafi."
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/30/we-cant-britainbecome-a-vast-isis-recruiting-station/

WHAT.  THE.  ACTUAL.  SHIT?

If there turns out to be even the slightest hint of truth to this, we are absolutely NOT SAFE under Theresa May!

[citizenh-ssd]

BREAKING NEWS:

Why am I only reading just now, the day before the election, that both London attacker Rachid Redouane and Salman Abedi, the Manchester bomber fought in the 2011 British/NATO war against Gaddafi?

People are now saying that they were both recruited by MI5 to fight in Libya and Syria.  The reason that being frequently reported to the PREVENT program did nothing is because they weren't on a watchlist, they were on our own government's payroll!

It’s little wonder that just one day before the general election, Theresa May has gone camera shy. Theresa May is hiding from questions by journalists about her activities as Home Secretary which saw the recruitment of British Jihadis by MI5 to fight in Libya and Syria and who were given freedom of movement and funding to come in and out of the UK as they pleased. Hiding from questions about her selling Billions of pounds of weaponry to Saudi Arabia, the biggest supplier of weapons to ISIS. Hiding from questions about cutting military personnel by 35,000, police numbers by 20,000 and firefighters by 10,000.

"A London attacker and UK covert operations in Syria and Libya. The Telegraph reports that London attacker Rachid Redouane fought in the 2011 British/NATO war against Qadafi – as did Salman Abedi, the Manchester bomber – and joined a militia which went on to send jihadist fighters to Syria. In Libya, he is believed to have fought with the Liwa al Ummah unit.
http://markcurtis.info/2017/06/07/a-london-attacker-and-uk-covert-operations-in-syria-and-libya/#_ftn1

"'Sorted' by MI5: How UK government sent British-Libyans to fight Gaddafi"
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/sorted-mi5-how-uk-government-sent-british-libyans-fight-gaddafi-1219906488

"TERROR IN BRITAIN: WHAT DID THE PRIME MINISTER KNOW?"
http://johnpilger.com/articles/terror-in-britain-what-did-the-prime-minister-know

"British Libyans and Libyan exiles in Britain, who saw their “control orders” lifted and their passports returned by MI5 six years ago so they could go and fight Gaddafi were never going to turn into sober citizens the day after his fall. Just as the link is undeniable between the perpetrators of 9/11 and the US and Saudi backing for Jihadis fighting the Communists in Afghanistan in the 1980s, so too is the connection between the Manchester bombing and the British Government using Salafi-jihadis from the UK to get rid of Gaddafi."
https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/30/we-cant-britainbecome-a-vast-isis-recruiting-station/

WHAT.  THE.  ACTUAL.  SHIT?

If there turns out to be even the slightest hint of truth to this, we are absolutely NOT SAFE under Theresa May!

You need to look at the situation soberly and toughly solve this problem. First of all, every person living in Europe today is afraid of any Muslim and is not ready to live with them. Radical steps are needed to stamp out the Islamists' stay in the countries of Europe. Otherwise, we will suffer every day from their actions.

[Sithara007]

Yeah.... I knew something was fishy when I first read that one of the attackers were originally from Libya. First of all, there are only a handful of Libyans in the UK. And almost all of them were brought to the UK, when Gaddafi was overthrown.

[DooMAD]

Radical steps are needed to stamp out the Islamists' stay in the countries of Europe. Otherwise, we will suffer every day from their actions.

Maybe the first radical step should be for us not to recruit and train them to fight proxy wars and overthrow regimes we once supported?

Still waiting to see when, or more likely if the traditional media pick up on it.  It's shocking that most Brits will be going to the polls today completely unaware that the tories trained the terrorists who attacked us:

As Home Secretary, Theresa May ensured that counter-terror police were overruled to allow the Manchester bomber and his father - a known member of Al Qaeda's Libyan affiliate, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group - to train and fight in Libya. The same policy allowed literally hundreds of 'subjects of interest' to shuttle back and forth between Britain and the training camps and battlefields of Libya and Syria as part of Britain's campaign to destroy those states. As far as she and her government are concerned, the murdered victims of the Manchester and London Bridge attacks are merely collateral damage. Apparently this story is of no interest whatsoever to any serious media outlet.
- Daniel Glazebrook

Theresa May facilitated the Manchester bomber's training

[MostHigh]

Following this story, Theresa May, being the Home Secretary was a corporate to all this Arab crisis in Saudi and Syria for a reward for this Jihadis. The whole Britain is paying for a decision a few crook politicians made. My take is fish all this Jihadist out and deport them home

[Sithara007]

So guys, it is confirmed. There will be a hung parliament in the United Kingdom. Theresa May was wrong when she declared early polls.

Right now, the Tories are at 313, with Lab+SNP+LD at 306. The DUP is at 10, Sinn Fein 7, Plaid Cymru 4, and Greens 1.

DUP may side with the Tories, but Sinn Fein, Greens and Plaid Cymru might go with Labor.

So Tories+ is at 323, and Lab+ is at 318. 326 is needed for a majority, and 8 seats are yet to be declared.

[Sithara007]

Everyone bow down to the UK's new overlords, the DUP.

The anti-LGBT+, anti-abortion to the point of human rights abuses, climate change denying bastards, the DUP.

I hope you're all happy that you didn't get a "coalition of chaos" from the Labour Party.  Instead you've got something that's actually bad, not a lot of empty words.

Not many residing outside the Northern Ireland know much about the DUP. Their policies are well known, but their priorities are not very clear. Obviously, they are anti-LGBT and anti-abortion. But would they force these policies on May? We need to wait and watch.

[DooMAD]

Everyone bow down to the UK's new overlords, the DUP.

The anti-LGBT+, anti-abortion to the point of human rights abuses, climate change denying bastards, the DUP.

I hope you're all happy that you didn't get a "coalition of chaos" from the Labour Party.  Instead you've got something that's actually bad, not a lot of empty words.

Not many residing outside the Northern Ireland know much about the DUP. Their policies are well known, but their priorities are not very clear. Obviously, they are anti-LGBT and anti-abortion. But would they force these policies on May? We need to wait and watch.

I think this tells you everything you need to know about the DUP.  May warned us about a coalition of terrorists sympathisers, turns out to be the most honest thing the vile witch has ever said.  She simply neglected to mention that she'd be the one in charge of it!  Fucking hypocrite!  They're more than happy to jump into bed with these Protestant Christian extremists, because other some religious extremists are bad.  Tory logic at it's finest.

Plus, despite failing to capture a majority by themselves, they're still going to try to force through draconian "Big Brother" legislation to regulate the internet, despite warnings from people who, unlike the tories, actually know what they're talking about, saying (much like her plan to call an election to begin with) this could massively backfire and actually make life easier for terrorists.

[Sithara007]

Everyone bow down to the UK's new overlords, the DUP.

The anti-LGBT+, anti-abortion to the point of human rights abuses, climate change denying bastards, the DUP.

I hope you're all happy that you didn't get a "coalition of chaos" from the Labour Party.  Instead you've got something that's actually bad, not a lot of empty words.

Not many residing outside the Northern Ireland know much about the DUP. Their policies are well known, but their priorities are not very clear. Obviously, they are anti-LGBT and anti-abortion. But would they force these policies on May? We need to wait and watch.

I think this tells you everything you need to know about the DUP.  May warned us about a coalition of terrorists sympathisers, turns out to be the most honest thing the vile witch has ever said.  She simply neglected to mention that she'd be the one in charge of it!  Fucking hypocrite!  They're more than happy to jump into bed with these Protestant Christian extremists, because other some religious extremists are bad.  Tory logic at it's finest.

Plus, despite failing to capture a majority by themselves, they're still going to try to force through draconian "Big Brother" legislation to regulate the internet, despite warnings from people who, unlike the tories, actually know what they're talking about, saying (much like her plan to call an election to begin with) this could massively backfire and actually make life easier for terrorists.

Wow... that guy bombed his Polish neighbors just because they were Catholic? I thought that the civil war was over in Northern Ireland, and there has been no violence for the past many years. Seems like I was wrong. So what they are going to do next, provided that they are in power now? Are they going to send pipe-bombs to the Vatican?

[DooMAD]

So along with Theresa May still not having managed to reach a deal with the DUP (yet somehow still adamant she can negotiate with the whole European Union), her own party are turning on her (much like the papers claimed Jeremy Corbyn's own party would turn on him, but haven't).  They've given May "10 days to shape up or ship out", threatening a vote of no confidence in her leadership. 

By some strange coincidence, she has suddenly stopped blurting out "strong and stable" at every given opportunity.   

Could the UK be heading for a minority government?  And if no parties are willing to work with the tories due to their abhorrent policies, will that minority government be formed by Labour and one or more other parties?  If the tories can't find a working majority, the leader of the opposition can be called on to attempt to form a government instead.

[popcorn1]

So along with Theresa May still not having managed to reach a deal with the DUP (yet somehow still adamant she can negotiate with the whole European Union), her own party are turning on her (much like the papers claimed Jeremy Corbyn's own party would turn on him, but haven't).  They've given May "10 days to shape up or ship out", threatening a vote of no confidence in her leadership. 

By some strange coincidence, she has suddenly stopped blurting out "strong and stable" at every given opportunity.   

Could the UK be heading for a minority government?  And if no parties are willing to work with the tories due to their abhorrent policies, will that minority government be formed by Labour and one or more other parties?  If the tories can't find a working majority, the leader of the opposition can be called on to attempt to form a government instead.

I want to BORROW and BORROW and BORROW until there is no tomorrow ..

ARR well we can do it for weapons and foreign aid we can do it for free education and free healthcare.
Funny because TV saying DUP want to remain  ..

THEY WANT OUT..

All i know is most politicians are lying thieving RATS and all they do is talk BULLSHIT for MONEY..
IT'S THE JOBS to BULLSHIT ..

Never trust any of them they are all BULLSHIT ..

And this planet is the way it is because of the BULLSHIT..

This guy knows what i mean..

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[Sithara007]

So along with Theresa May still not having managed to reach a deal with the DUP (yet somehow still adamant she can negotiate with the whole European Union), her own party are turning on her (much like the papers claimed Jeremy Corbyn's own party would turn on him, but haven't).  They've given May "10 days to shape up or ship out", threatening a vote of no confidence in her leadership. 

By some strange coincidence, she has suddenly stopped blurting out "strong and stable" at every given opportunity.   

Could the UK be heading for a minority government?  And if no parties are willing to work with the tories due to their abhorrent policies, will that minority government be formed by Labour and one or more other parties?  If the tories can't find a working majority, the leader of the opposition can be called on to attempt to form a government instead.

I checked the Daily Mail, and they are saying that the pact with the DUP is still not finalized. Isn't there any other option? I know that there is at least one independent MP and a few MPs from Plaid Cymru. Can't May form a government with their support?

[DooMAD]

So along with Theresa May still not having managed to reach a deal with the DUP (yet somehow still adamant she can negotiate with the whole European Union), her own party are turning on her (much like the papers claimed Jeremy Corbyn's own party would turn on him, but haven't).  They've given May "10 days to shape up or ship out", threatening a vote of no confidence in her leadership.  

By some strange coincidence, she has suddenly stopped blurting out "strong and stable" at every given opportunity.    

Could the UK be heading for a minority government?  And if no parties are willing to work with the tories due to their abhorrent policies, will that minority government be formed by Labour and one or more other parties?  If the tories can't find a working majority, the leader of the opposition can be called on to attempt to form a government instead.

I checked the Daily Mail, and they are saying that the pact with the DUP is still not finalized. Isn't there any other option? I know that there is at least one independent MP and a few MPs from Plaid Cymru. Can't May form a government with their support?

The thing to bear in mind is, after you jump into bed with the tories, your reputation can take a hit once they've kicked you to the curb after they finish using you.  The Lib Dems entered into a coalition with David Cameron, but in order to do so, the Lib Dems had to abandon a significant proportion of their ideals.  They managed to negotiate a few key Lib Dem policies in, but had to concede on most of their other election pledges and play lapdog.  After the coalition ended and the Tories had an outright majority under David Cameron, many Lib Dem voters felt somewhat betrayed.  

There are some big costs and it's not a decision to be taken lightly, so May will likely struggle to find support because of this.