⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Antotena]

Everybody knows Mbappe is a superstar. But he's just one piece of the puzzle. Ancelotti has to figure out how to make the greatest players in the world communicate. Thats the challenge, and thats what makes it fun. You have Vini, Rodrygo, Bellingham, Joselu - all hungry for goal. And who's gonna fill Kroos' shoes? Thats a big question. But thats what makes a great team, right? Everyone's gotta step up.

Ancelotti is no fool now, that much is clear. He's gonna find the right formation. He will change, adjust. Possibly there is more possession or counterattacking. Who knows?

What if this rush to get Mbape in 2021 wasn't part of his campaign strategy and to win leagues for Real Madrid? What if all this pressure to get Mbape to Real Madrid project was really what Real Madrid management like because looks at it from this angle, the pressure to sign him started when they won Champions League and they signed him when they won another Champions League and with losing only single match for the whole season, Anceloti would careless about needing that boy from beginning.

Since he is here already, it will help the team as well because Rodrigo, Vinicious, Bellingham and some other good players in the team are already filling lonely at the top, the presence of Mbape will make them insecure about their future performance and will like to improve more on their games creating a super competition within them and when they have any match, they will murder any team.

[Mame89]

Real Madrid's president is a very experienced man who spends money to recruit better players, which is why the club is still functioning well and winning trophies back-to-back. That is what Barcelona lacks; they do not have the money to get crucial players, which is why they do poorly in league competition. Real Madrid's addition of Mbappe has made them a formidable opponent for any club. Madrid no longer needs any transfers; the only thing they lack is a striker, but now that they have Mbappe, they will not buy any more players, and Real Madrid will be the favorites to win the La Liga title next season. Since Barcelona did not make any changes still they will still probably perform weak but let see if the new coach will do something good to make the team stronger.

Yes that's right. Real Madrid is very smart and very experienced in recruiting players in recent years, they can even get players for free and have a very good impact on the team. Just look, in the last few years, Real Madrid has managed to recruit several players for free, such as David Alaba 2021, Antonio Rudiger 2022, and Kylian Mbappe 2024. Maybe next season they will also get defender Alphonso Davies from Bayern Munich for free.

When buying players, Perez takes a direct approach to his players. Currently Alphonso Davies only has 1 year remaining on his contract and it is very likely that he will not extend his contract, so Real Madrid could get him for free if Bayern Munich does not sell him immediately. Real Madrid wants to buy at a price below that offered by Bayern Munich.

If we talk about Barcelona, ​​they failed to transfer players and had a financial crisis, but they bought players at high prices and high salaries so that Barcelona's finances are currently unstable. Next season Real Madrid will still dominate LaLiga because their squad is better than Barcelona at the moment.

[KTChampions]

Actually, in my opinion, pairing Mbappe and Haaland in one team will not be effective, maybe you have seen that with Messi, Nyemar and Mbappe as an illustration that PSG cannot be successful in European competitions. There will be a lot of ego created if 2 players like Mbappe and Haaland join. This is not what Ancelotti wants, Real Madrid stability needs to be maintained, not all great players need to be in Madrid if it ends up destroying the existing balance. Just having Mbappe is enough to complement Real Madrid's front line, and let Haaland remain opposite Mbappe. Because in this modern era of football there is competition for the best candidates in each team. Man City and Real Madrid, keep in mind that if Mbappe and Haaland had to share a place, would that be acceptable to them? The status of a striker is to have his own place as a core player. And I'm sure Mbappe or Haaland are not willing to share playing time.

Come on Mbappe that's enough, there's no need for everyone to be in Madrid, there are still lots of other teams in Europe, don't let the world of football be biased against one team. Because we need competition, not collections.

Haaland and Mbappe cannot play together at Real Madrid, firstly because of ego (no one wants to be in the shadow), and secondly for economic reasons. Real already has 3 of the most expensive players from the top 5. It would be strange to add Haaland here. They all have big salaries so it would be difficult from a financial point of view.
If we talk only about the game, then a scheme where Haaland plays the central striker, Mbappe plays a little lower, and then Vinnie, Bellingham, Rodrigo, then this would be ideal.

[$weetne$$]

It looks like Chelsea still haven't given up on registering players who really shine at the club and this means the second time after Chelsea also completed Nkunku from Leipzig and now they will again target Nkunku's replacement last season for Leipzig although surely this will require a large enough nominal to bring Openda. It's just that for Openda it's clearly a little complicated even though there are indeed some rumors that say that Openda could have left with an offer of 70 million but I don't feel this will go smoothly for Chelsea.

Chelsea spending without breaking any financial fair play rules should be stopped because why are they allowing only one club to spend so much in a short time and they are not being punished. They are making other clubs to look small and inflating the price of players that re not worth the amount that they are spending on, making it difficult for other clubs to sign playes as the clubs also want to overprice their players. Chelsea might be doing some money laundering business because they are spending too much on average players. None of the players they bought for enormous sums have done something to be worth the amount they spend on buying the player yet they still want to spend more money to buy more average players that have not proven their worth in a big league.

[Alpha Marine]

Juventus and Douglas Luis could be official during this week

I believe this is going to be one of the best signings in Serie A next season. The deal is good for both Juventus and Douglas Luis. He's a good player and it's good to see him go from Aston Villa to Juventus.
Juventus really needs somebody like that in the middle of their midfield and especially now that new Manager Thiago Motta is taking over, it would be interesting to see how he utilities Douglas Luis. That's the kind of profile he likes, strong and very technical.

I heard talks about Osimhen wanting to move to Chelsea. I don't know if the team is willing to sign him or they have other plans with Openda and other players potentially?

At this point, I doubt it Osimhen would leave Napoli. Napoli are not in a hurry to sell, they're ready to hold out till their asking price is met and if the price is not met, they have nothing to lose, they'll just keep hold of Osimhen for the next season.
PSG looked like the most serious team for Osimhen but they have to let go of at least one of Ramos or Kolo Muani because they can't have 3 stickers in the team and Ramos looks like the most likely one to leave even though Kolo Muani has the higher market value.

[Stepstowealth]

Mykhailo Mudryk could leave Chelsea.

Chelsea should give him time because he has not yet adapted does not mean that he will not adapt to the system. It is possible that he thrives under the new coach Enzo. Mudryk remains a good substitute for any coach,  Chelsea will not be making the right decision to let him go.

About Chelsea trying to sign Osimhen, I do not think it is going to work.

[Silence Scream]

Actually, in my opinion, pairing Mbappe and Haaland in one team will not be effective, maybe you have seen that with Messi, Nyemar and Mbappe as an illustration that PSG cannot be successful in European competitions. There will be a lot of ego created if 2 players like Mbappe and Haaland join. This is not what Ancelotti wants, Real Madrid stability needs to be maintained, not all great players need to be in Madrid if it ends up destroying the existing balance. Just having Mbappe is enough to complement Real Madrid's front line, and let Haaland remain opposite Mbappe. Because in this modern era of football there is competition for the best candidates in each team. Man City and Real Madrid, keep in mind that if Mbappe and Haaland had to share a place, would that be acceptable to them? The status of a striker is to have his own place as a core player. And I'm sure Mbappe or Haaland are not willing to share playing time.

Come on Mbappe that's enough, there's no need for everyone to be in Madrid, there are still lots of other teams in Europe, don't let the world of football be biased against one team. Because we need competition, not collections.

Haaland and Mbappe cannot play together at Real Madrid, firstly because of ego (no one wants to be in the shadow), and secondly for economic reasons. Real already has 3 of the most expensive players from the top 5. It would be strange to add Haaland here. They all have big salaries so it would be difficult from a financial point of view.
If we talk only about the game, then a scheme where Haaland plays the central striker, Mbappe plays a little lower, and then Vinnie, Bellingham, Rodrigo, then this would be ideal.

I think there is no need for Haaland when there is Mbappe. Having so many star players in the team also has its disadvantages. The demands of the players can be very high, and each player can spend every position generously to stand out. I think they can finish this transfer season with a very good defender instead of Haaland and an excellent player instead of Kroos.

[marcous]

The speculation about the future of Mykhailo Mudryk in Chelsea was appears since this winter because since joining Chelsea Mykhailo Mudryk was unable to performing well just like he was showed when playing at Shakhtar Donetsk and some people considers Chelsea has got scammed because the transfer fee when they bought Mykhailo Mudryk was very expensive so people have been wondering whether Mykhailo Mudryk is really worth to that price or not considering since joining Chelsea Mykhailo Mudryk didn't give any significant progress with this team

I have to says Mykhailo Mudryk was failed to adapt with Chelsea and Premier League so that's why he was unable to reach to his top performance with Chelsea but i think Chelsea shouldn't be rush to decided whether they will sell Mykhailo Mudryk or not because he still have potention to develop his skill in Chelsea and actually last season Mykhailo Mudryk performance is better but indeed he still cannot help Chelsea to reach to top 4 position on League Standing however according to the rumour if Chelsea is really want to sell him then probably Arsenal can save his career

Mudryk looks like a fraudulent investment, where since he came to Stamford Bridge, his performance has never been in the best form. His expensive transfer value does not reflect his quality, many have even made him the butt of jokes on social media, Arteta will not buy such a player. It's true that Mudryk still has a lot of time to develop, because he's still very young, but it doesn't look like Enzo Maresca will give him much of a chance. Pochettino didn't have many choices last season, because most of Chelsea players were injured, so Mudryk had more time to play.

Mudryk scored 7 goals and recorded 2 assists from 41 matches in all competitions, I think that is very far from expectations. Meanwhile, the Blues will likely have difficulty selling Mudryk in the transfer window, where his high price will be a major obstacle, which is not commensurate with the contribution he can make. Mudryk made Chelsea go awry, and in fact there were several other Chelsea players who also failed to live up to expectations. If Chelsea want to let Mudryk go in this transfer window, they have to set a cheaper price so that his departure can happen.

[Leviathan.007]

Mourinho started his work in Fenerbahçe after the drama he had in Roma, Fenerbahçe is happy to have a famous coach like his in the team. Mourinho tried to do his best for Roma but it was not enough and that's why he got fired from this team.
Now after starting his work in Fenerbahçe, he wants to hire Filip Kostić and Dean Huijsen from Juventus, However, I think think if this will be easy for them because Juventus is also trying hard to keep the team in the good form.

[legendbtc]

Everybody knows Mbappe is a superstar. But he's just one piece of the puzzle. Ancelotti has to figure out how to make the greatest players in the world communicate. Thats the challenge, and thats what makes it fun. You have Vini, Rodrygo, Bellingham, Joselu - all hungry for goal. And who's gonna fill Kroos' shoes? Thats a big question. But thats what makes a great team, right? Everyone's gotta step up.

Ancelotti is no fool now, that much is clear. He's gonna find the right formation. He will change, adjust. Possibly there is more possession or counterattacking. Who knows?

What if this rush to get Mbape in 2021 wasn't part of his campaign strategy and to win leagues for Real Madrid? What if all this pressure to get Mbape to Real Madrid project was really what Real Madrid management like because looks at it from this angle, the pressure to sign him started when they won Champions League and they signed him when they won another Champions League and with losing only single match for the whole season, Anceloti would careless about needing that boy from beginning.

Since he is here already, it will help the team as well because Rodrigo, Vinicious, Bellingham and some other good players in the team are already filling lonely at the top, the presence of Mbape will make them insecure about their future performance and will like to improve more on their games creating a super competition within them and when they have any match, they will murder any team.

Yes, Mbappe is just the last piece of the puzzle in Real Madrid's squad. Without Mbappe, coach Carlo Ancelotti would still have succeeded. With 5 Champions League titles, coach Carlo Ancelotti can be considered the greatest strategist of his generation. Although Real Madrid was successful last season with the Champions League and La Liga titles, they lacked a central striker. Jude Bellingham experienced an explosive first half of the season with countless goals but was gradually locked down by the opponent. Meanwhile, Vinicius knows how to make a difference, but is not a genuine goal-scoring machine. Kylian Mbappe will be a great goalscorer.

Carlo Ancelotti faces a difficult personnel problem after Kylian Mbappe joined Real Madrid. The question is, how does coach Carlo Ancelotti optimize a squad with so many quality options? Not ruling out the possibility, Ancelotti will let Bellingham return to the midfield, playing alongside Valverde and Aurelien Tchouameni. As for the attack, the trio of Vinicius, Mbappe, and Rodrygo will be a terror to all of Europe for many years to come.

[EL MOHA]

Chelsea is interested in Belgium striker Lois Openda.
Mykhailo Mudryk could leave Chelsea.
Manchester United is doing a talk for goalkeeper Josep Martinez, even if Inter Milan already agreed personal terms with the player.
Juventus and Douglas Luis could be official during this week

Lois Openda was definitely one of the players of the just concluded season that I definitely knew many top clubs will easily like to get due to his stellar performance for RB Leipzig. Chelsea on the other hand are definitely in need of a striker after something that they felt was a disappointing first season by their first choice striker Nicolas Jackson even though he got to double figures in goals in his first premier league season. The number of chances missed and the lack of competition by the second choice striker Brojal is reason why Chelsea are in this summer for a new striker, Openda seems a good option for me if the price doesn’t exceeds 65M.

Mudryk should seriously leave Chelsea even if it is on loan to another club just for the sake of game time. The Ukrainian has enjoyed a very disappointing first two seasons at the bridge and many of it to me is that because of lack of game time which would have build his confidence more. A move to a club where he will have enough time Should be his priority.

I don’t think United need an extra goalkeeper at the moment with the likes of Atla Benyidir and also Tom Heaton who they wants to offer a new contract again.

[TastyChillySauce00]

Chelsea is interested in Belgium striker Lois Openda.
Mykhailo Mudryk could leave Chelsea.

I think Mudrick's departure will only be worthwhile if the new player is paid a reasonable wage and bought for reasonable money, unlike Mudrick. They spent too much money on him and he clearly didn't justify it, 7 goals can't be worth 100 million. I think if he was bought 10 times cheaper he would probably fully justify his cost. Oh and also the possible transfer of Oliseh would be nice because looking at him from the outside he is playing much better

I'd support Chelsea releasing him if Mudryk's price was ten times less than when they purchased him, because of that, chelsea would lose pennies on their investment in him, but the problem is that 100 million was paid by chelsea for mudryk from shaktar, and the blues will suffer a huge loss on mudryk because his price may have dropped significantly, if chelsea decides to sell him. Apparently, there's no club that is keen to acquire him from chelsea either. 

Regarding Olise, the Blues have been in talks with Palace. Chelsea's plan to include Medueke and Chalobach in the Olise move may now be reconsidered by Palace. The talks between Chelsea and Palace are still underway, and no final agreement has been reached by these clubs. To recap, Olise's price is rather high, but he may be worth it, and a final agreement is all that is required to complete the transfer of Olise to the Blues. 

[Rustam Meraj]

I'd support Chelsea releasing him if Mudryk's price was ten times less than when they purchased him, because of that, chelsea would lose pennies on their investment in him, but the problem is that 100 million was paid by chelsea for mudryk from shaktar, and the blues will suffer a huge loss on mudryk because his price may have dropped significantly, if chelsea decides to sell him. Apparently, there's no club that is keen to acquire him from chelsea either. 

Regarding Olise, the Blues have been in talks with Palace. Chelsea's plan to include Medueke and Chalobach in the Olise move may now be reconsidered by Palace. The talks between Chelsea and Palace are still underway, and no final agreement has been reached by these clubs. To recap, Olise's price is rather high, but he may be worth it, and a final agreement is all that is required to complete the transfer of Olise to the Blues. 

Chelsea should consider cutting their losses and selling Mudryk even if it means selling him at significantly lower price than what they paid for him. Holding onto him won't change fact that his value has decreased and it is better to minimize their losses.However issue is that Chelsea paid hefty sum of 100 million for him and selling him at lower price would result in substantial loss. Unfortunately there does not look to be any club interested in acquiring him either. On separate note Chelsea negotiations with Palace for Olise are ongoing and while his price is steep he may be worth it. Including players like Medueke and Chalobach in deal could be smart move but ultimately it is up to Palace to decide. Let's see if the two clubs can reach a final agreement and complete the transfer.

[tusandii]

I'd support Chelsea releasing him if Mudryk's price was ten times less than when they purchased him, because of that, chelsea would lose pennies on their investment in him, but the problem is that 100 million was paid by chelsea for mudryk from shaktar, and the blues will suffer a huge loss on mudryk because his price may have dropped significantly, if chelsea decides to sell him. Apparently, there's no club that is keen to acquire him from chelsea either. 

There is another option if Chelsea doesn't want to lose too much and simply by loaning Mudryk to another club is one of the best ways to increase his selling price because this way Mudryk can increase his talent and the market price will be better than having to sell him now, Chelsea will definitely experience too big a loss because Mudryk did not have great achievements while with Chelsea.

In fact, this is all Chelsea's own fault, who at that time were determined to recruit Mudryk at a very high price even though he was not a player who looked reliable, but they still bought him ridiculously and now Chelsea have to admit their loss.
For the time being, of course there will be no other clubs that want to sign Mudryk because other clubs think that if they bring in Mudryk it will definitely not provide anything good in the long term or maybe other clubs also think that even if Chelsea will give a price of 40 million or 60 million, it still wouldn't match the talent he had.

I'm just speculating that Chelsea doesn't have to rush to sell him or can be loaned to a club in need like Barcelona or another club so that Mudryk can have good achievements in the future.

[reagansimms]

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I think there is no need for Haaland when there is Mbappe. Having so many star players in the team also has its disadvantages. The demands of the players can be very high, and each player can spend every position generously to stand out. I think they can finish this transfer season with a very good defender instead of Haaland and an excellent player instead of Kroos.

It is very unlikely that Real Madrid will recruit Haaland after they succeeded in bringing in Mbappe, after all these two players cannot be played at the same time because they play in the same position. It's enough for Real Madrid to bring in a quality striker, what is needed now is all in Mbappe.
Real Madrid front line is very complete, they also have quality reserve players who can play in the same area. Real Madrid may bring in one or two more players before the transfer window closes, but it is certain that the player they will bring in will not be a striker because it is no longer their priority.

[samuraijin]

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I think there is no need for Haaland when there is Mbappe. Having so many star players in the team also has its disadvantages. The demands of the players can be very high, and each player can spend every position generously to stand out. I think they can finish this transfer season with a very good defender instead of Haaland and an excellent player instead of Kroos.

It is very unlikely that Real Madrid will recruit Haaland after they succeeded in bringing in Mbappe, after all these two players cannot be played at the same time because they play in the same position. It's enough for Real Madrid to bring in a quality striker, what is needed now is all in Mbappe.
Real Madrid front line is very complete, they also have quality reserve players who can play in the same area. Real Madrid may bring in one or two more players before the transfer window closes, but it is certain that the player they will bring in will not be a striker because it is no longer their priority.

Most likely it will be difficult to happen considering how much his father loves Man City, this is not about money, maybe Real Madrid can buy top players, but Real Madrid doesn't want to be careless about player transfers because Real Madrid is thinking about the balance of the club. If they waste money, financial problems will occur.  At a club as big as Real Madrid, I think bringing in Mbappe is far more sufficient than having to bring in Haaland to satisfy Florentino Perez's ambition to chase all the titles.

[klidex]

It is very unlikely that Real Madrid will recruit Haaland after they succeeded in bringing in Mbappe, after all these two players cannot be played at the same time because they play in the same position. It's enough for Real Madrid to bring in a quality striker, what is needed now is all in Mbappe.
Real Madrid front line is very complete, they also have quality reserve players who can play in the same area. Real Madrid may bring in one or two more players before the transfer window closes, but it is certain that the player they will bring in will not be a striker because it is no longer their priority.

Real Madrid already has Kylian Mbappe so why should they recruit Erling Haaland? These two players have almost equal performance on the front line. Apart from that, Real Madrid will not spend a lot of money to recruit players like Erling Haaland because Erling Haaland has a fairly high price so why would they dig deep into their pockets when they already have star players in them? In fact, it wouldn't be good for Real Madrid to have many star players, it would create competition between players, besides that they would fight each other to play as the main player even though as strikers they couldn't play simultaneously.

Yes, Real Madrid already has a very complete squad and has good performance, so Real Madrid doesn't need to recruit Erling Haaland. Many star players will not be good for the club itself, just like when PSG when they have star players like Neymar, Mbappe and Messi, the club doesn't can achieve success because star players prioritize their egos to perform well according to themselves without requiring cooperation between players just because the most important thing is for them to win individual titles.

[Minor Miner]

Chelsea sold Jamal Musiala for just £170,000 to Bayern when he was 16.

Recently Jamal Musiala caught everyone's eye after 5-1 win against Scotland in the Euro 2024 opening match.
Source: https://www.goal.com/en-om/lists/jamal-musiala-chelsea-england-germany-starboy-slip-grasp/blta9b3682d9ee0f3c5

In recent years Chelsea has made a lot of bad decisions. Chelsea has also made a lot of decisions that made them question their decision-making later. And I have to say this was one of the worst decisions that they have taken. But I guess we cannot talk trash about Chelsea too much. Because at the end of the day, They did not know how Musiala was going to turn out to be.

Obviously, they did not know he was going to be such a great player, no one knows what is going to happen in the future. If they had actually known what was going to happen, they would have kept him. But this does question how Chelsea is running their youth program. Because they have missed out on a very good talent.

[Bobrox]

Yes that's right. Real Madrid is very smart and very experienced in recruiting players in recent years, they can even get players for free and have a very good impact on the team. Just look, in the last few years, Real Madrid has managed to recruit several players for free, such as David Alaba 2021, Antonio Rudiger 2022, and Kylian Mbappe 2024. Maybe next season they will also get defender Alphonso Davies from Bayern Munich for free.

When buying players, Perez takes a direct approach to his players. Currently Alphonso Davies only has 1 year remaining on his contract and it is very likely that he will not extend his contract, so Real Madrid could get him for free if Bayern Munich does not sell him immediately. Real Madrid wants to buy at a price below that offered by Bayern Munich.

If we talk about Barcelona, ​​they failed to transfer players and had a financial crisis, but they bought players at high prices and high salaries so that Barcelona's finances are currently unstable. Next season Real Madrid will still dominate LaLiga because their squad is better than Barcelona at the moment.

Transfer histories of Real Madrid seems only Eden Hazard is not effective transfer after many top players recruitment success reach their top performance, Florentino Perez looks smart looking for most potential transfer from with frees transfer players from David Alaba, Antonio Rudiger and Kylian Mbappe. Real Madrid more efficient when signing some players although spending much money but most of them can reach the highest top perform level how did by Jude Bellingham this season after Madrid spend him above 130 million euro.

Next season, Real Madrid will arrive new recruitment beside Kylian Mbappe as free agent has young players Endrick will give positive impact or not although his performance keep consistency with Palmeiras and Brazil national team. Barcelona difficult to follow with success signed of Real Madrid because spend much money when signing some players but have sell them more than 50% decreasing values when first time signing them. I think Barcelona need learn more how effective transfer did by Real Madrid and try adopting to make efficient by selling them later higher than fee spending from signing.

[Iranus]

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Typical words of Ronaldo fans, it's obvious you love Ronaldo very well and that's fine but don't use it to slam Messi like Ronaldo is better.
There is a natural born player and there is physically motivated player, Messi is one born with his talent and all he did, he didn't have to prove to anyone he is doing it, he is doing it because he thinks it's the best thing for him and his club, can't you see many goals Messi has refused to scored and always ended as assist? If Messi is that hungry for goals and numbers, you really think Ronaldo will come close, just compare the assists and do the math's again.

Another thing is Messi is never in any competition with anyone, he doesn't have to seek for anyone opinion when to retire, if he thinks he has achieved enough, then so be it. There are many players that didn't even reach his age and they retire early, it's because of this baseless comparison he never went to Saudi Arabia.

Just to be clear Witt you, Messi has completed football with all the trophies needed, tell Ronaldo to take Portugal to World cup by 2026.

I don’t see him taking sides here. I don’t understand what everyone means by Messi is naturally talented and Ronaldo is an hardworking player, have you watched Ronaldo during his Sporting days and his first time at Manchester United? He was pure talent that frightens every defender and throughout those years he hasn’t started his hard work but still managed to beat the best players around those years to win his first Ballon D’Or.

No doubts Messi is more naturally talented but He pushed himself to the limit not because he is not talented but  because he just wanted to be the best he build on the mentality and the consistency is something not everyone can maintain.

Let’s not argue this but i can see you are clearly taking sides as a Messi fan, there are lots of goals Ronaldo gifted to his teammates despite people calling him greedy and full of himself and yet none of his teammates have ever come out to say negative things about him. I’d say it’s probably because you don’t watch Ronaldo as much as you watch Messi.

There are great players who couldn’t win everything in football and are still regarded as a great player so Messi is just one of the few lucky players to win almost everything in football so I don’t think there such thing as completing football. Or if Mbappe ends up winning the champions League and Ballon D’or is it safe to say Mbappe is up there with Messi and have completed football.

Messi is a great player just like Ronaldo but belittling Ronaldo because he is yet to win the World Cup despite his achievements is wrong.

Lol... Dumb argument 

I was the biggest fan of Messi and of course maybe for that reason alone, I hated Cristiano Ronaldo. But looking at what happened with him towards the end of his career, especially with him and Manchester United and him in the last World Cup, I have sympathy for that player. Even though I denied that he was a good player before, now I can actually say that he is definitely one of the best. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo are in the same class. No other player comes close to them. If wanting to see Cristiano Ronaldo have a good ending to his football career makes me a Ronaldo fan, then I guess I am one.

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I don’t see him taking sides here. I don’t understand what everyone means by Messi is naturally talented and Ronaldo is an hardworking player, have you watched Ronaldo during his Sporting days and his first time at Manchester United? He was pure talent that frightens every defender and throughout those years he hasn’t started his hard work but still managed to beat the best players around those years to win his first Ballon D’Or.

No doubts Messi is more naturally talented but He pushed himself to the limit not because he is not talented but  because he just wanted to be the best he build on the mentality and the consistency is something not everyone can maintain.

Let’s not argue this but i can see you are clearly taking sides as a Messi fan, there are lots of goals Ronaldo gifted to his teammates despite people calling him greedy and full of himself and yet none of his teammates have ever come out to say negative things about him. I’d say it’s probably because you don’t watch Ronaldo as much as you watch Messi.

There are great players who couldn’t win everything in football and are still regarded as a great player so Messi is just one of the few lucky players to win almost everything in football so I don’t think there such thing as completing football. Or if Mbappe ends up winning the champions League and Ballon D’or is it safe to say Mbappe is up there with Messi and have completed football.

Messi is a great player just like Ronaldo but belittling Ronaldo because he is yet to win the World Cup despite his achievements is wrong.

You are right. I think he is just a Messi fan who probably has never seen either Messi or Cristiano Ronaldo in their prime. He just looks at the record books and the ballon D'or (which is definitely rigged by the way) and decides who is a better player. By that definition, I could easily say that Hazard was a very important player for Real Madrid. But we all know that he was just injured the whole time and won the titles just doing nothing.

At the end of the day, you cannot argue with stupid people or ignorant people