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September 01, 2024, 05:57:14 PM
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It's really strange why Manchester United sold him? Hasn't McTominay always been able to help Manchester United when they were in trouble?

I also don't know why Erik ten Hag didn't ask him to stay and I think here it's clear that the club's decision is very big to change the direction of his career. McTominay is a Manchester United academy player and he was even there during the Sir Alex Ferguson era.

On the other hand, I am very sure that his move to Napoli will further improve his quality and everyone knows that if a player has left Manchester United he will shine even brighter in his new team and at that time we also knew that Manchester United was a problematic team for anyone who was there.


I don't think it's strange truthfully right now. He impacted into the Manchester United squad over the last few years since the time of Jose Mourinho but believe me when I say that it's the perfect time for him to leave. With the way Manchester United wants to play, they need to bring in quality midfielder's. Erik Ten Hag voiced his opinions on how he wanted him to stay but the lad has already come to agreement with Napoli already. He had great moments, played as attacking midfieder, double pivot with Fred in midfied and lots more. I know how important he was over the way but all good things comes to an end finally. It breaks my heart to see that such a great academy player couldn't win the Premier League Competition.
His kind of game suits that of Antonio Conte, he will bring in so much energy into that midfied. He has matured over the years for Manchester United, though we're yet to see his best. Goodluck to Scott MC Tominay, I will miss his late goalscoring and match winners for Manchester United.

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September 01, 2024, 08:18:52 PM
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Chelsea apparently moving fast that they start to selling the players who potentially will not be used because after Sterling and Lukaku the latest player who sell is Armando Broja that just like we know Armando Broja was asking to Chelsea owner to sell him because he hasn't included to Enzo Maresca plan and apparently he will have new club this summer

Everton would became an Armando Broja next club because it says Everton and Chelsea have reach an agreement to loan Armando Broja and it says no loan fees which mean Everton loan him for free but at the end of season Everton have to permanent Armando Broja status
Source : https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1829783686008480233
Yeah, I don't understand why Everton still decided to take Armando Broja on loan from Chelsea, when he is expected to be out until mid-October with a foot injury. He suffered an anterior cruciate ligament injury and will be sidelined until September. I know Armando Broja is a young player who has accumulated some impressive football experience. He has a lot of potential to develop (if he doesn't get injured again).
First and foremost, Everton probably needs to get Armando Broja fit again. I believe his presence gives Everton more options in attack. The free price is probably worth it for Everton Club do not hesitate to choose to try Armando Broja.


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I think they are just willing to take the chance with him. I also believe they have made this decision because they thought they were bringing him on as a loan player anyway. so I guess that thought they are not losing too much money anyway. But still, I do not support the idea of bringing in a player who is injured. Because you never know if he is actually going to recover in the time in which it is expected or if he is going to stay healthy after recovering. By the way, they are already going to give him two months of salary for free because he will be injured. Maybe they thought that as he is pretty young, he will actually recover pretty quickly. But I don’t know if that alone justifies this decision.

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September 01, 2024, 08:58:07 PM
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It's really strange why Manchester United sold him? Hasn't McTominay always been able to help Manchester United when they were in trouble?

I also don't know why Erik ten Hag didn't ask him to stay and I think here it's clear that the club's decision is very big to change the direction of his career. McTominay is a Manchester United academy player and he was even there during the Sir Alex Ferguson era.

On the other hand, I am very sure that his move to Napoli will further improve his quality and everyone knows that if a player has left Manchester United he will shine even brighter in his new team and at that time we also knew that Manchester United was a problematic team for anyone who was there.
I watched how Manchester United were convincingly thrashed by Liverpool today and had to tell the guy I was watching the game with that the result would have been different if Scott McTominay was paired with Kobbie Mainoo in the Manchester United midfield. Selling off a player when you don't have better replacement is one thing some clubs do that I find very difficult to understand their reasons for doing such but it's Manchester United so I believe the club management knows why they allowed him leave after 22 years at the Old Trafford club.
It's a big loss to Manchester United if you ask me but a also a big win for Napoli because I believe the presence of McTominay in that team will improve the performance of Antonio Conte's men. Hopefully for McTominay, he succeeds at his new club by performing more than he was expected to.

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September 01, 2024, 09:03:37 PM
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I think Osimhen should just go to Saudi Arabia. There is no meaning in staying at Napoli without playing football for a whole season. But the time is running out indeed. I hope this signing also doesn't fail just as it happened with Chelsea. Normally I wouldn't support a move to Saudi Arabia for Osimhen. Because he is still very young. But while there is no better option he should take it and leave.  Sad
Chelsea seems no longer interested to sign Osimhen. Since Osimhen expects too high salary, only Saudi teams who can fulfill it. I'm not sure there is still Saudi team which wants to sign a top striker now. But if they can buy Osimhen with reasonable transfer fees, I think there is a chance for Osimhen to play in Saudi league this season. This will depend on the Napoli board and agent of Osimhen. They must reduce the transfer fees of Osimhen, there will be no more teams to pay above €100m.
The whole Osimhen saga is complicated and I believe there is more to it why he couldn’t make a move, no player or players agent will want his client to stay without participating in football for months just because the they don’t want a pay cut in his salary. No player would choose staying without active football than a pay cut because it will be endangering his career. Osimhen should have agreed to join Al Ahli had it been he knew Chelsea’s deal would fail. I don’t think Chelsea will come for him again and looking at Saudi top teams i think most of them now have a foreign striker so i don’t think anyone of them will be interested to come for him.

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September 01, 2024, 09:04:25 PM
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Theoretically, there are still a day left before the transfer window closes in Saudi Arabia, so Osimhen's transfer could happen right now, but as I understand it, this transfer (unlike the transfer to Chelsea) is complicated by the position of the club and not the player. An absurd situation - if everything is not resolved within 24 hours, then Osimhen will not play until winter, Conte expressed himself quite clearly: whoever is removed from the squad will not be reintegrated back.
Hopefully there is a way out for Osimhen before the transfer window closes, because after all he must have a place to play and when Napoli through Conte has said that, then there is little hope for Osimhen to get the coach's trust to play if he stays at Napoli.
Now I think his agent must move faster and when there is a good opportunity, then Osimhen must accept it. However, it is indeed difficult when the problem lies in Napoli's agreement which still does not want to release him at the price offered. I know they are also doing business here, but they should also be able to ensure the player's future and not just hang it up. Because they also cannot be selfish in thinking about the player's future.

It is already too late for Osimhen from the Napoli side on him being included in the team this season as it stands now, as he has been left out of the squad for Serie A season already.

Victor Osimhen isn't only the one left out by the squad this season as Mario Rui is not also included in the list because Conte and Napoli management consider them out of the project, following their decisions to leave the club.

Napoli also went as far to remove the number 9 from Victor Osimhen and give it to Romelu Lukaku.
I just wish Osimhen well this season because it is worse not playing at all this season, only to struggle with fitness or injury or having to play at a worse club that Napoli is way better than, all in the pursuit of a better pay for a career.

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September 01, 2024, 09:08:55 PM
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The whole Osimhen saga is complicated and I believe there is more to it why he couldn’t make a move, no player or players agent will want his client to stay without participating in football for months just because the they don’t want a pay cut in his salary. No player would choose staying without active football than a pay cut because it will be endangering his career. Osimhen should have agreed to join Al Ahli had it been he knew Chelsea’s deal would fail. I don’t think Chelsea will come for him again and looking at Saudi top teams i think most of them now have a foreign striker so i don’t think anyone of them will be interested to come for him.

It is so sad to see how all this ended, it has now become had I know sort of a thing for Osimhen. Any player can settle for less of what they’re aspiring for can’t be guaranteed at that time, it is better than not actively participating in football and your market value depreciates. I also feel there’s more to this move that we don’t know about.
Napoli purposely increased his release clause so that no team will want to come for him even when his performance in the concluded season was not worth the price they put on him. This is very bad and now it has greatly affected his move. Napoli have now even delist him amongst players to be used for this season, this is cruel and it will maybe bring an end to his career in football if only if he gets another good chance at the end of the season or during mid-season transfer.

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September 01, 2024, 09:18:30 PM
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Theoretically, there are still a day left before the transfer window closes in Saudi Arabia, so Osimhen's transfer could happen right now, but as I understand it, this transfer (unlike the transfer to Chelsea) is complicated by the position of the club and not the player. An absurd situation - if everything is not resolved within 24 hours, then Osimhen will not play until winter, Conte expressed himself quite clearly: whoever is removed from the squad will not be reintegrated back.
Hopefully there is a way out for Osimhen before the transfer window closes, because after all he must have a place to play and when Napoli through Conte has said that, then there is little hope for Osimhen to get the coach's trust to play if he stays at Napoli.
Now I think his agent must move faster and when there is a good opportunity, then Osimhen must accept it. However, it is indeed difficult when the problem lies in Napoli's agreement which still does not want to release him at the price offered. I know they are also doing business here, but they should also be able to ensure the player's future and not just hang it up. Because they also cannot be selfish in thinking about the player's future.

Yes, Napoli must make concessions on the amount they are willing to take from the Saudis in exchange for releasing Osimhen. But not because it would be in the player's interests (although that could be taken into account) but because, despite the fact that Osimhen is not on Napoli's roster for the season, they are obliged to pay him a salary, which is high.
It is unlikely that Napoli is such a rich club that they would simply pay a huge salary to a player who is not on the roster and is just waiting for him to be released or for his contract to expire.

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September 01, 2024, 09:42:07 PM
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I think Osimhen should just go to Saudi Arabia. There is no meaning in staying at Napoli without playing football for a whole season. But the time is running out indeed. I hope this signing also doesn't fail just as it happened with Chelsea. Normally I wouldn't support a move to Saudi Arabia for Osimhen. Because he is still very young. But while there is no better option he should take it and leave.  Sad
Chelsea seems no longer interested to sign Osimhen. Since Osimhen expects too high salary, only Saudi teams who can fulfill it. I'm not sure there is still Saudi team which wants to sign a top striker now. But if they can buy Osimhen with reasonable transfer fees, I think there is a chance for Osimhen to play in Saudi league this season. This will depend on the Napoli board and agent of Osimhen. They must reduce the transfer fees of Osimhen, there will be no more teams to pay above €100m.
The whole Osimhen saga is complicated and I believe there is more to it why he couldn’t make a move, no player or players agent will want his client to stay without participating in football for months just because the they don’t want a pay cut in his salary. No player would choose staying without active football than a pay cut because it will be endangering his career. Osimhen should have agreed to join Al Ahli had it been he knew Chelsea’s deal would fail. I don’t think Chelsea will come for him again and looking at Saudi top teams i think most of them now have a foreign striker so i don’t think anyone of them will be interested to come for him.
Nothing looks complicated from my own perceptive, what transpired was Osimhen requesting for more than what was the available offer. We saw when the transfer window was open most clubs were ready to bid for Osimhen, no doubt his a great striker and deserves to be bought at that huge price but whereas the available offers are not meeting up as expected then alternatively one can just settle with the best out of the options instead of keeping the tag stagnant knowing fully well the transfer window is close to an end now he has to suffer for it.

Chelsea was really down to sign him, I'm sure they made all available options just to come in agreement with Napoli and Osimhen but they had bad decisions on the subject. If he really wanted to be bought at that price then he should have saved his carrier first by accepting the deal from Chelsea then during the season improve on his performance which will definitely increase his worth and value next time he gets option in the transfer market.

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September 01, 2024, 09:53:50 PM
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I think Osimhen should just go to Saudi Arabia. There is no meaning in staying at Napoli without playing football for a whole season. But the time is running out indeed. I hope this signing also doesn't fail just as it happened with Chelsea. Normally I wouldn't support a move to Saudi Arabia for Osimhen. Because he is still very young. But while there is no better option he should take it and leave.  Sad

I agree with you, although I don't want that either, but I believe there is no other solution for Osimhen...

Chelsea tried until the last minutes of the transfer window, but they couldn't reach an agreement with Napoli, so even with the end of the transfer window in the main leagues in Europe, the Nigerian will hardly stay with the Azzurri because Osimhen was not registered by Napoli in the Italian Championship and therefore is not part of Antonio Conte's project at the club.

The fact is that Osimhen never hid his desire to leave, and although a move to Chelsea and Paris Saint-Germain was on the table, neither club reached a financial agreement with Napoli and so we had this confusion until the end of the transfer window.

The main problem was certainly the irritation of the Napoli board after Osimhen refused the initial offer to play in Saudi Arabia, and then took his number 9 shirt away from Lukaku... in the end, all that was left was what he really didn't want.

To make matters worse, Al Ahli have now reached an agreement with Ivan Toney from Brentford and are unlikely to support the offer for Osimhen, so the likelihood of seeing a high-performance player employed but "without work" is very high.

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September 01, 2024, 09:59:41 PM
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It is already too late for Osimhen from the Napoli side on him being included in the team this season as it stands now, as he has been left out of the squad for Serie A season already.

Victor Osimhen isn't only the one left out by the squad this season as Mario Rui is not also included in the list because Conte and Napoli management consider them out of the project, following their decisions to leave the club.

Napoli also went as far to remove the number 9 from Victor Osimhen and give it to Romelu Lukaku.
I just wish Osimhen well this season because it is worse not playing at all this season, only to struggle with fitness or injury or having to play at a worse club that Napoli is way better than, all in the pursuit of a better pay for a career.
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Osimhen should have l decided to leave when he was still red-hot and wanted by top European teams. Things have turned up quite so bad for him and I don't know if he will rise up from the mess, but when he does, he should know where his loyalty lies.

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September 01, 2024, 11:29:48 PM
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Now we have to know who's the boss in this Osimhen's issue, he made his decision but that wasn't the best , when he had the chance to leave without any of these complications he still said he wanted to stay to prove his loyalty to the club, he should have left with the coach that won the league with them. I think that should have been his way out of this miss and now where in earth is he going to start from 🤔? He can't play or train with the squad and he's not even registered as one of the Napoli players so what would he be doing since they have discarded him?
Osimhen is using his hands to kill his career at this young age but let's hope the season comes to an end fast so that he can decide or maybe by January he can start up another move to leave the club but he won't be as expensive as he is now.

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September 01, 2024, 11:46:35 PM
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I think Osimhen should just go to Saudi Arabia. There is no meaning in staying at Napoli without playing football for a whole season. But the time is running out indeed. I hope this signing also doesn't fail just as it happened with Chelsea. Normally I wouldn't support a move to Saudi Arabia for Osimhen. Because he is still very young. But while there is no better option he should take it and leave.  Sad

I agree with you, although I don't want that either, but I believe there is no other solution for Osimhen...

Chelsea tried until the last minutes of the transfer window, but they couldn't reach an agreement with Napoli, so even with the end of the transfer window in the main leagues in Europe, the Nigerian will hardly stay with the Azzurri because Osimhen was not registered by Napoli in the Italian Championship and therefore is not part of Antonio Conte's project at the club.

The fact is that Osimhen never hid his desire to leave, and although a move to Chelsea and Paris Saint-Germain was on the table, neither club reached a financial agreement with Napoli and so we had this confusion until the end of the transfer window.

The main problem was certainly the irritation of the Napoli board after Osimhen refused the initial offer to play in Saudi Arabia, and then took his number 9 shirt away from Lukaku... in the end, all that was left was what he really didn't want.

To make matters worse, Al Ahli have now reached an agreement with Ivan Toney from Brentford and are unlikely to support the offer for Osimhen, so the likelihood of seeing a high-performance player employed but "without work" is very high.
It can be concluded that Al Ahli is the only option still available, but some parties doubt that Osimhen is willing to move to the Saudi Pro League. Conte has emphasized that Osimhen is not included in his plans, therefore he insists on recruiting Lukaku. The other most difficult option is to be frozen, Osimhen stays at Napoli and must wait until January to be able to move clubs. Maybe this will be a lesson for him, and widely for other players, that being a star player who is fought over by many teams is not easy. Fabrizio Romano said that Napoli had reached a total agreement with Al Ahli, and Osimhen would be offered a four-year contract, with a salary of 30 million per season.

Chelsea cannot increase their offer to recruit Osimhen, financially they are very capable. But they must pay attention to their financial balance to avoid FFP sanctions, because previously Enzo Maresca had spent a lot of budget to recruit a number of players. In addition, Chelsea also had difficulty releasing their players because of the limited time, which ultimately caused Chelsea to fail to reach an agreement with Napoli to recruit Osimhen. I think that reason sounds more logical, regardless of the other opinions that have developed.

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September 01, 2024, 11:59:34 PM
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Now we have to know who's the boss in this Osimhen's issue, he made his decision but that wasn't the best , when he had the chance to leave without any of these complications he still said he wanted to stay to prove his loyalty to the club, he should have left with the coach that won the league with them. I think that should have been his way out of this miss and now where in earth is he going to start from 🤔? He can't play or train with the squad and he's not even registered as one of the Napoli players so what would he be doing since they have discarded him?
Osimhen is using his hands to kill his career at this young age but let's hope the season comes to an end fast so that he can decide or maybe by January he can start up another move to leave the club but he won't be as expensive as he is now.

Do you mean who is the boss or who is the agent who is responsible signing the deals or doing the negotiations? It's up to the players and honestly Osimhen himself is to blame because of his greediness. There are even players who work through their professional careers without any agents whatsoever, they still negotiate impressive salaries and get along very well. He wanted too much in this case I think and his agent was fine with it, going with whatever brings the most money. This is a pretty rare thing that a player of his calibre fails to sign a contract by the deadline. Imagine how much he was worth one year ago and now he is in shambles.

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