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October 01, 2024, 02:44:03 PM
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Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag have very bad approach with his own players, Jadon Sancho and Cristiano Ronaldo were both forced to leave Manchester United because they had a bad relationship but Sancho was able to impress quite impressively while on loan at Dortmund last season and has been brilliant this season with Chelsea.
A bad approach also affects the performance of the players so that tactics are difficult to run smoothly. Ten Hag is currently under the spotlight due to his team current condition, The victory crisis that is currently hitting MU is considered to be the result of his tough approach to the players. Jadon Sancho is one example of Ten Hag inability to handle and bring out player talent, now he is performing impressively with Chelsea and his assist record beats all MU players.

I think Erik ten Hag need to change his approach with their players if want bring his team reach the higher standings position after have bad trend performance in the early this season start.
Fans were already too disappointed with the poor results achieved by MU, the players began to be reluctant to be trained by Ten Hag again, this was evident when they played without a vision and goal. A change of coach is inevitable, recently there have been rumors circulating about the appointment of a new manager from MU, one of which is directed at Graham Potter, has anyone heard this rumor?

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October 01, 2024, 02:56:50 PM
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I also still don't think how the Ineos Group can be hypnotised by a bald head who clearly has a vision of making Manchester United play in the 2nd tier of the Premier League. If that's the goal it doesn't matter then I will accept and support Erik Ten Hag. The Premier League is too hard to live for the Man United he currently leads. From the beginning I suspected that no matter how bad the results Manchester United got, Erik Ten Hag would still be retained and he seemed to have strong supporters within the United Management body whether it was the Ineos Group or even directly from the Glazer Family.

Everything is clear Manchester United are playing badly, there is no improvement despite having poured billions of dollars to buy players whose contributions are very below standard and even busy being injured rather than playing on the field. Maybe it is time for Manchester United to get out of the Premier League if there is no talk of sacking Ten Hag.
I think they are not, they just couldn't find the courage to fire someone who just won the FA cup, that's not nothing, sure it's clear that he did that on a bad season, they finished terrible at premier league and they were terrible at UCL without a doubt, finished last in their group, so it was a bad season but he won FA cup so they couldn't fire him.

While I am sure that Erik Ten Hag is saying that they agreed to stay together and he doesn't fear being sacked, that doesn't mean that INEOS isn't thinking about sacking him. This is a very bad result from United again, and I am sure that management is considering their options.

Tough part is that they do not have anyone in mind, but if they can find someone better, I am sure that ETH will be gone in a minute. INEOS won't just go to ETH and say "we are thinking about sacking you", that would never happen, when you are fired, you are fired that day, you don't know about it weeks before, you suspect maybe, but not know.

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October 01, 2024, 03:27:42 PM
 #72703

Recently Arsenal has been linked with Florian Wirtz I would be happy if this club recruited the attacking midfielder who would help the team strengthen the front line while Man City lost Rodri for 1 season and this is Arsenal's opportunity to break Man City's dominance but what I know is the price is very expensive but the management might be able to discuss it with Leverkusen management to get a suitable price.

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Who wouldn’t want a player like Florian Wirtz? He is an incredible player, one which every club will want to have in their team and the fact that he is just 21 years old increases his demand in the transfer market. I think many clubs will be willing to meet Bayer Leverkusen’s terms because Wirtz is so good that interested clubs won’t want his price tag to be a hindrance to getting him. I believe they will be quick in reaching an agreement but in the end Wirtz will go to the club he chooses.
Florian Wirtz has amazed many clubs with his performance and consistency with Leverkusen at the moment, playing as an attacking midfielder but he actually has many positions in the front line that he can play very well, besides that his young age of course allows him to continue to develop and become one of the stars of football in the future, so it is quite natural that currently he is priced at a price that is quite expensive for a team that wants to recruit him, with his slick performance in the Leverkusen midfield, of course currently teams such as Arsenal, Madrid, Liverpool and Manchester City are scrambling to get him, an expensive price with proven quality will certainly not be a problem for the teams, but we have to be realistic about which club Florian Wirtz will choose later because indeed a young player like him will of course only play for a team that has a champion mentality, so I think Manchester City and Madrid could probably be his next club.

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October 01, 2024, 03:58:44 PM
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Manchester City also made a lot of transfers in the early days of Arab capital. But they didn't win the championship in those years. Then they realized that first of all they had to find the right transfers and the right manager. They are a good role model for Newcastle United today. Newcastle United are following their strategy today. Also, Manchester City and Newcastle United were never dominant teams in the last 30 years. Manchester City have done it in the last years. But Manchester United were always the dominant team. So they have more pressure than Manchester City and Newcastle United in this regard.
That is why they agreed to deal with Pep, because no matter how much you spend, if you do not have a great manager then it's just for nothing. Look at how much United is spending, and the yare still bad.

I always say "fifa based transfers" for big clubs, sure in smaller levels that's not good, but a team like United, spending 50+ million on a player that is barely 80 overall at fifa? That's a bad move, I know fifa is not the real world, but if you are spending that much, you might be looking for a huge potential, and for a potential player do not spend that much today, it rarely works, give him "potential player" level of money.

Biggest example, Mazuairi or whoever that back they got, terrible player, well not terrible in general but not going to help with United back, and they spent so much on it, we already knew he wouldn't be great and we are just fans and it was known before the transfer and every fan warned the team, and they did it anyway and look at the result.

It's so clear that teams like Newcastle, United, even sort of Brighton, do not know what they are doing with the money they are spending. I think for United, they need to get a manager known for greatness but at a poorer team, like maybe Emery? Villa seems great and that would be awesome for United.

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October 01, 2024, 04:06:37 PM
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He had problems not only with Sancho but also with Ronaldo and they sent the player off the team. We can see that the Erik Ten Hag selection was very wrong with his slowly decreasing success graph. Erik Ten Hag has now had his chance and the team said they will send him off the team if the expected results are not achieved in the next 5 games. That's why the next 5 games are very important for Manchester. In my opinion, it is ridiculous that they gave him a chance for 5 games even after the defeat against Tottenham.
Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag have very bad approach with his own players, Jadon Sancho and Cristiano Ronaldo were both forced to leave Manchester United because they had a bad relationship but Sancho was able to impress quite impressively while on loan at Dortmund last season and has been brilliant this season with Chelsea.
I think Erik ten Hag need to change his approach with their players if want bring his team reach the higher standings position after have bad trend performance in the early this season start.
But it is quite difficult to change the way he approaches the players, and look at Sancho at Chelsea how happy and well treated by Enzo Maresca, as a result he gives his best for the club. Creating 3 assists in 3 matches should be strong evidence that in the right hands Sancho is capable of promising. In Dortmund too, his role is quite good. According to The Sun, Erik Ten Hag has 2 matches left (Aston Villa and Brentofrd) to save his fate as Man United coach because then we will see a new replacement soon. He can't stay with Man United forever, honestly the players are getting fed up with the monotonous strategies.

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October 01, 2024, 04:26:16 PM
 #72706

But it is quite difficult to change the way he approaches the players, and look at Sancho at Chelsea how happy and well treated by Enzo Maresca, as a result he gives his best for the club. Creating 3 assists in 3 matches should be strong evidence that in the right hands Sancho is capable of promising. In Dortmund too, his role is quite good. According to The Sun, Erik Ten Hag has 2 matches left (Aston Villa and Brentofrd) to save his fate as Man United coach because then we will see a new replacement soon. He can't stay with Man United forever, honestly the players are getting fed up with the monotonous strategies.

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Quit talking about Erik Ten Hag and Jadon Sancho if you don't know the main details. Being a Manchester United player comes with a whole lot, most of these current Manchester United players will never make it to Sir Alex Ferguson's squad back in the day. Sancho had his chances but chose to disrespect the manager. He is now a Chelsea player, good luck with his career over there. The games should be Porto during the European Europa League Competition and the Premier League fixture against Aston Villa away from  home. I would want to see Mason Mount play as an attacking midfieder for once since he left Chelsea. He'll sure do well, if he's being tagged alongside Casemiro, Erikson and Ugarte. Having these players will bring coordination and energy on midfied.

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October 01, 2024, 04:31:19 PM
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Manchester United manager Erik ten Hag have very bad approach with his own players, Jadon Sancho and Cristiano Ronaldo were both forced to leave Manchester United because they had a bad relationship but Sancho was able to impress quite impressively while on loan at Dortmund last season and has been brilliant this season with Chelsea.
I think Erik ten Hag need to change his approach with their players if want bring his team reach the higher standings position after have bad trend performance in the early this season start.

Management keep patience waiting Manchester United back to top performance before taking decision sack him or not, recently last season have warned about Erik ten Hag after failure reach the UEFA Champion League spot standings position. In my opinion, the era Erik ten Hag with Manchester United have been over and management must looking for most competitive manager bring back United to the top fourth premier league standings team.

Or, United players who find it difficult to accept the methods and approaches taken by Erik Ten Hag. Sancho once played well with Dortmund, in short, after United no longer wanted his services, Dortmund borrowed him back. However, they were reluctant to make it permanent. Now he is with Chelsea, but not as a regular player. Cristiano Ronaldo has violated club rules several times, even in his interview session cornered the team he was defending at that time and still paid him a salary. Now, he plays with Al Nassr. I don't know what the internal conditions are like for Manchester United, but by making Nistlelrooy, it is hoped that the approach can be established well. After all, he is one of Manchester United's legends. Previously I said in another thread, I don't dare to conclude too far. The reason is simple, I don't have much information about this team and rarely watch them when they compete. IMO, even if Manchester United replaces Erik Ten Hag with a new manager, even an experienced one, there is no guarantee that it will improve the performance of the Red Devil squad, especially in such a short time. especially if the problem is the United players themselves, I mean like Bruno, Rashford who often do not show discipline as professional players. the last point, if Ten Hag is unable to deliver victory after victory in the next matches, it is likely that in the end the club management will look for a replacement.

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October 01, 2024, 05:19:52 PM
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INEOS will fire ETH definitely, there is no scenario where he keeps his job, it's just about when that will be. This isn't the last year of his contract, he still has time, so it's clear that he expects to manage the team next season. But I am writing right here, I guarantee you that ETH will not manage the team next season. Either he will be fired soon if the team gets worse and worse, or he is going to be fired at the end of the season.

The only possible way that he doesn't get fired, would be getting some wins to keep the team going up in standings, and then win something, sure they won't win the premier league, but what if they win Europa this season? They started terrible but that doesn't mean they won't win it, there is a possibility that they could. If something like that happens then maybe he will stay. But I am sure that they will have a season where they win absolutely nothing, and if he keeps getting worse then I am sure he won't even see the end of the season neither.

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October 01, 2024, 07:22:45 PM
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INEOS will fire ETH definitely, there is no scenario where he keeps his job, it's just about when that will be. This isn't the last year of his contract, he still has time, so it's clear that he expects to manage the team next season. But I am writing right here, I guarantee you that ETH will not manage the team next season. Either he will be fired soon if the team gets worse and worse, or he is going to be fired at the end of the season.

The only possible way that he doesn't get fired, would be getting some wins to keep the team going up in standings, and then win something, sure they won't win the premier league, but what if they win Europa this season? They started terrible but that doesn't mean they won't win it, there is a possibility that they could. If something like that happens then maybe he will stay. But I am sure that they will have a season where they win absolutely nothing, and if he keeps getting worse then I am sure he won't even see the end of the season neither.

It's quite funny but United were recently the favourites for the Europa League, now the bookmakers have adjusted their opinion and Tottenham are the favourites with 5.0 odds. However, United are still listed as the second contender with 6.70 odds. But in my personal opinion, even if you double the odds, a bet on United won't be profitable until Ten Hag is sacked. Besides Tottenham there is Roma, Sociedad, Athletic, Lazio and United can't even beat Twente.
As for the sacking, in my opinion it is a matter of a few rounds, there is too much noise around already - even indifferent fans of other clubs are surprised how United could fall so low. The sacking has been justified for a long time, but now it already looks like an image necessity.

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October 01, 2024, 07:31:12 PM
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Barcelona legend Andres Iniesta has just announce that he would be retired from football in this month and currently he is 40 years old and last time he was play with Emirates FC on season 2023/2024 and after his contract ended with this team currently Iniesta have no club and Iniesta said he has been reach his limit that with his current age it is impossble to continue playing and managed his fitness condition so that's why Iniesta has decide to retired

Iniesta is a part of Barcelona gold generation with Xavi Hernandez, Lionel Messi and Sergio Busquets and during defend Barcelona Iniesta can able to gets 9 Laliga trophy, 6 Copa Del Rey and 4 Champion league trophy so these records probably cannot be achieve by other Barcelona players in the near future

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October 02, 2024, 01:07:40 AM
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Barcelona legend Andres Iniesta has just announce that he would be retired from football in this month and currently he is 40 years old and last time he was play with Emirates FC on season 2023/2024 and after his contract ended with this team currently Iniesta have no club and Iniesta said he has been reach his limit that with his current age it is impossble to continue playing and managed his fitness condition so that's why Iniesta has decide to retired

Iniesta is a part of Barcelona gold generation with Xavi Hernandez, Lionel Messi and Sergio Busquets and during defend Barcelona Iniesta can able to gets 9 Laliga trophy, 6 Copa Del Rey and 4 Champion league trophy so these records probably cannot be achieve by other Barcelona players in the near future
You are right Andres Iniesta Barcelona football legend has announced his retirement. At 40 years old it is understandable that he is stopping because football requires a lot of physical effort. Iniesta had amazing career like winning many awards including 9 Spanish league titles and 6 Spanish cups and 4 European Champions League titles. This makes him one of Barcelona greatest players. Iniesta achievements will be hard to beat and his commitment and skill and leadership set high standard for future Barcelona players.

 
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October 02, 2024, 02:02:40 AM
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You are right Andres Iniesta Barcelona football legend has announced his retirement. At 40 years old it is understandable that he is stopping because football requires a lot of physical effort. Iniesta had amazing career like winning many awards including 9 Spanish league titles and 6 Spanish cups and 4 European Champions League titles. This makes him one of Barcelona greatest players. Iniesta achievements will be hard to beat and his commitment and skill and leadership set high standard for future Barcelona players.

Nothing can be maintained at that age and Andres Iniesta's physicality will definitely not be able to keep up with the young players in the same team or the opponents they will face in the competition.
Andres Iniesta has won everything at Barcelona and there have been many successes that have been achieved individually and at the club.
Deciding to retire at the age of 40 is right because even if he forces himself to continue playing his physicality will definitely not support it.

Andres Iniesta is one of the most needed players in his era and he has given many trophies to Barcelona during his glory days, that's why he is called a Barcelona legend.

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October 02, 2024, 03:31:47 AM
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Recently Arsenal has been linked with Florian Wirtz I would be happy if this club recruited the attacking midfielder who would help the team strengthen the front line while Man City lost Rodri for 1 season and this is Arsenal's opportunity to break Man City's dominance but what I know is the price is very expensive but the management might be able to discuss it with Leverkusen management to get a suitable price.

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Who wouldn’t want a player like Florian Wirtz? He is an incredible player, one which every club will want to have in their team and the fact that he is just 21 years old increases his demand in the transfer market. I think many clubs will be willing to meet Bayer Leverkusen’s terms because Wirtz is so good that interested clubs won’t want his price tag to be a hindrance to getting him. I believe they will be quick in reaching an agreement but in the end Wirtz will go to the club he chooses.
It is true that many top clubs want him and who among them will get him we do not know it depends on the player himself who chooses where he will continue his football career I think he will be a little confused because clubs like Man City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Arsenal are top clubs where they have good resources their performance is very strong in their respective leagues so this is a difficult choice for him if he has to think carefully and this is a good opportunity to prove that he deserves to be at a club that a more promising future.

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October 02, 2024, 03:55:57 AM
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Barcelona legend Andres Iniesta has just announce that he would be retired from football in this month and currently he is 40 years old and last time he was play with Emirates FC on season 2023/2024 and after his contract ended with this team currently Iniesta have no club and Iniesta said he has been reach his limit that with his current age it is impossble to continue playing and managed his fitness condition so that's why Iniesta has decide to retired
A forgotten legend, he should've won Ballon d'Or in his football career, but his teammates robbed it. I guess he will completely retire because he's now become a businessman and have several business including wine. Nevertheless, he already completed football arc, now he can enjoy all of his hard work when he was young.

It is true that many top clubs want him and who among them will get him we do not know it depends on the player himself who chooses where he will continue his football career I think he will be a little confused because clubs like Man City, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Arsenal are top clubs where they have good resources their performance is very strong in their respective leagues so this is a difficult choice for him if he has to think carefully and this is a good opportunity to prove that he deserves to be at a club that a more promising future.
It's better for him to join Manchester United, Bruno is currently under perform, if he can consistent and always give a big contribution to Manchester United, he will be very popular.

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October 02, 2024, 04:37:40 AM
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It's better for him to join Manchester United, Bruno is currently under perform, if he can consistent and always give a big contribution to Manchester United, he will be very popular.
Seeing Manchester United plays and the news surrounding them makes me believe it's a terrible decision for any player to go there because the situation is too chaotic. There are too many conflicting rumors about their internal situation, from ETH's lack of backing to players supporting him, etc. I dunno, unless the contract term is really good maybe it will be hard to attract a great player to join them, especially when they face competition from Man City, Madrid, etc.

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October 02, 2024, 04:51:13 AM
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You are right Andres Iniesta Barcelona football legend has announced his retirement. At 40 years old it is understandable that he is stopping because football requires a lot of physical effort. Iniesta had amazing career like winning many awards including 9 Spanish league titles and 6 Spanish cups and 4 European Champions League titles. This makes him one of Barcelona greatest players. Iniesta achievements will be hard to beat and his commitment and skill and leadership set high standard for future Barcelona players.
He has made his own history in football, everyone admires his game. Actually Iniesta really deserved the Ballon D'or, especially when he managed to help Spain win the World Cup, in that match he played very well and managed to score one goal, but he failed to win it. He is the only player in history to have been named Man of the Match in 3 different finals, World Cup, UCL and Euro. What an unforgettable legend.

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October 02, 2024, 06:58:45 AM
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It's better for him to join Manchester United, Bruno is currently under perform, if he can consistent and always give a big contribution to Manchester United, he will be very popular.
Seeing Manchester United plays and the news surrounding them makes me believe it's a terrible decision for any player to go there because the situation is too chaotic. There are too many conflicting rumors about their internal situation, from ETH's lack of backing to players supporting him, etc. I dunno, unless the contract term is really good maybe it will be hard to attract a great player to join them, especially when they face competition from Man City, Madrid, etc.
Yes, problems have hit Manchester United one after another, some problems about the performance of the players and the failure of post-change development efforts by bringing in some new players and now Manchester United have to lose some players who are absent in several matches.
I don't know what Manchester United will be like in the future and I want to see how Ten Hag handles all these problems because the only person who can get Manchester United out of all these problems and return things to how they were before is Ten Hag as coach, I don't really believe in him but now he is the only one who has influence because he is the coach.
Some players previously could play very well, even those who were not previously Manchester United players could have qualified skills with their old teams, but now with Manchester United there has been no consistent and truly directed game.
These are all complicated problems and it looks like this season will be nightmare for Manchester United if everything fails and there is no real improvement.

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October 02, 2024, 07:06:44 AM
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You are right Andres Iniesta Barcelona football legend has announced his retirement. At 40 years old it is understandable that he is stopping because football requires a lot of physical effort. Iniesta had amazing career like winning many awards including 9 Spanish league titles and 6 Spanish cups and 4 European Champions League titles. This makes him one of Barcelona greatest players. Iniesta achievements will be hard to beat and his commitment and skill and leadership set high standard for future Barcelona players.
He has made his own history in football, everyone admires his game. Actually Iniesta really deserved the Ballon D'or, especially when he managed to help Spain win the World Cup, in that match he played very well and managed to score one goal, but he failed to win it. He is the only player in history to have been named Man of the Match in 3 different finals, World Cup, UCL and Euro. What an unforgettable legend.
I find Iniesta to be one of the most watchable players of the past two decades. Most of Iniesta's glorious career was spent with Barcelona. During his heyday at Barcelona and the Spanish national team, Iniesta formed one of the best midfield trios in the world alongside Xavi and Busquets. Together they brought an era of great success to Barcelona and Spain.

Andres Iniesta has decided to end his massive football career at the age of 40. This is inevitable in the context that Iniesta has been unemployed for 4 months now. He left the Emirates Club in June and has been unemployed ever since. Knowing that I have few options left at the age of 40, I support Iniesta's decision to hang up his boots.

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October 02, 2024, 07:09:45 AM
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Recently Arsenal has been linked with Florian Wirtz I would be happy if this club recruited the attacking midfielder who would help the team strengthen the front line while Man City lost Rodri for 1 season and this is Arsenal's opportunity to break Man City's dominance but what I know is the price is very expensive but the management might be able to discuss it with Leverkusen management to get a suitable price.

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Who wouldn’t want a player like Florian Wirtz? He is an incredible player, one which every club will want to have in their team and the fact that he is just 21 years old increases his demand in the transfer market. I think many clubs will be willing to meet Bayer Leverkusen’s terms because Wirtz is so good that interested clubs won’t want his price tag to be a hindrance to getting him. I believe they will be quick in reaching an agreement but in the end Wirtz will go to the club he chooses.
There were also talks about Real Madrid. However, it is very difficult for him to find a place in Real Madrid's current squad. I think it would be great if he went to Arsenal. However, we do not know when Bayer Leverkusen will sell him. They will probably wait until the end of the season. Until the end of the season, Wirtz will continue to do his best for Bayer Leverkusen. If Arsenal transfers him, they will not have problems in the midfield for many years. He is a really high-quality player and I am a fan of him.

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I'm just waiting and I want to see how they want to wait for Ten Hag to maybe see a better performance from this coach. He already had enough time in Manchester United and he bought a good player for this tam also he spent too much money there for any player he hired for Manchester United but in the end he couldn't get good results and other than getting bad results he also had a bad relationship with many players in this team and he made players loke Sancho leave. Maybe the sooner they hire another coach and get Ten Hag fired the better result they will get.
The fairy tales he tells in front of the press are not enough to treat the frustration of fans who see their favourite team playing like they don't have any vision on the pitch. Ever since Erik Ten Hag became United coach, we have never heard him apologise for any defeat either in front of the press or in front of United supporters. Is there any evidence that Erik Ten Hag apologised for the team poor performance? it doesn't seem to exist and indeed he wouldn't say that. Ten Hag always feels he is on the right track as a coach, always thinks he has given a great achievement under the pretext of 2 FA Cup trophies. That's all he always talks about to cover up his mistakes. So don't be surprised that Manchester United cannot be saved except by changing the coach.
Ten Hag is a proud Man and he won't apologise for any reason. Let's be realistic here, if he eventually starts apologising like you are saying, how many times will he apologise in a month? Because the bad results keeps coming. Ten Hag is not like the other top coaches who do experience bad results once in a while. But Ten Hag records bad results more than good results and if he starts apologising for the bad results he will keeps apologising every weekend and the fans will get tired of his apologies. Manchester United fans don't even need his apologies, he should get good results, that was why they hired him. Not that he doesn't know what he is doing, he knows fully well that once he starts apologising, the apologies will keep coming every weekend that's why he has been avoiding that, instead he focuses on giving excuses weeks upon weeks. Ten Hag has only won one Fa cup and one Caraboa Cup.

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