WTF - Kiddy Porn in the Blockchain for life?

[darkmule]

http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/02/technology/security/bitcoin-porn/?source=cnn_bin

"The U.S. Justice Department wouldn't comment on this specific case, but an agency spokesman pointed CNNMoney to the exact wording of the law, which states that the issue becomes a crime when a person "knowingly possesses, or knowingly accesses with intent to view" child porn. It doesn't appear that an unsuspecting user with these coded links sitting on their hard drive has much to worry about. "

Downloading the blockchain to look at some porn? No? Then no crime.

In theory, "knowingly possesses" means about the same as it does in the drug context:  possessing it long enough to know what it is, and yet choosing not to get rid of it.  In practice, that kind of case is not prosecuted, or every Usenet provider would have been raided long ago.  So in theory, simply having a copy of the blockchain is sufficient, if the blockchain actually contains the illegal content.  In practice, I'm not worried about it.  I do not believe the blockchain, itself, contains content that it is illegal to possess.

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[internationalaw]

This topic has been with discussed with clarity on Lets Talk Bitcoin! radio show. I recommend listening to this episode beginning at the 36:25 mark.

Andreas and Adam discuss what actually was posted on the blockchain along with its implications. Enjoy!

http://letstalkbitcoin.com/post/50105902110/lets-talk-bitcoin-episode-006-cyprus

[matt4054]

This topic has been with discussed with clarity on Lets Talk Bitcoin! radio show. I recommend listening to this episode beginning at the 36:25 mark.

Andreas and Adam discuss what actually was posted on the blockchain along with its implications. Enjoy!

http://letstalkbitcoin.com/post/50105902110/lets-talk-bitcoin-episode-006-cyprus

Sorry but the itw is wrong about the mythical "comment" field. It has been explained times and again that this is a Blockchain.info internal feature, although public, and it is NOT stored in the blockchain. But this myth seems very persistent.

The rest is OK (though I stopped listening after that)

[legitnick]

omg

[ktttn]

This is the kind of crap that makes me want to stop using BTC altogether in case I get arrested for unwittingly distributing offensive content under UK laws (I don't wish to get jailed for using BTC just because some idiot decided to post CP messages in the blockchain).The only thing I like about BTC is the easy way of sending money to and from other people (using only an address rather than typing in IBANS,card details,giving my address,etc with normal banks)

If this is true (and not just a rumour) then I'll have to stop using BTC in UK which is a shame.

I have questions about this:
Does the code actually load the offensive sites?
If this code can load these sites,how could the developers fail to see this happening and apply appropriate measures to remedy this issue?
How is it possible to post messages in the blockchain as I'm rather confused as to how this can work?

From what i've heard, all they put in the blockchain were URLs; and i'm not even sure if they are in plaintext.

The fact that it's URLs means that I can get arrested for unwittingly distributing or relaying CP content simply because of what some person thought was funny to put in there.Whether it's plain text or not,it'll still be enough to get me in trouble if I continue to use BTC simply because of the CP message in the blockchain.

Thanks for clearing that up.I think it's time to finish earning BTC (by working or selling things off),then cashout for good and delete all my BTC clients/accounts to stay out of trouble then.

I'm not a lawyer, but the URLs themselves are just directions, they aren't the actual child abuse images. Though i guess some countries are really fucked up and might make even directions to where criminals can be found be a crime...


Btw, if you're leaving Bitcoin, please send me your coins before you delete your wallet.

Yeah send them here too.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number
Thank you for using the term child abuse images. Associating media containing evidence of inhumane violence.and rape can't be fairly called pornography by a level headed person.
Seems this is successfully alerting people to specific evidence. Being able to expose human trafficking and child abuse without implicating yourself is probably not very easy.
One might idly wonder about whether the content we're all blindly ranting about is actually objectionable or blown out of proportion.

[Matthew N. Wright]

This is the kind of crap that makes me want to stop using BTC altogether in case I get arrested for unwittingly distributing offensive content under UK laws (I don't wish to get jailed for using BTC just because some idiot decided to post CP messages in the blockchain).The only thing I like about BTC is the easy way of sending money to and from other people (using only an address rather than typing in IBANS,card details,giving my address,etc with normal banks)

If this is true (and not just a rumour) then I'll have to stop using BTC in UK which is a shame.

I have questions about this:
Does the code actually load the offensive sites?
If this code can load these sites,how could the developers fail to see this happening and apply appropriate measures to remedy this issue?
How is it possible to post messages in the blockchain as I'm rather confused as to how this can work?

From what i've heard, all they put in the blockchain were URLs; and i'm not even sure if they are in plaintext.

The fact that it's URLs means that I can get arrested for unwittingly distributing or relaying CP content simply because of what some person thought was funny to put in there.Whether it's plain text or not,it'll still be enough to get me in trouble if I continue to use BTC simply because of the CP message in the blockchain.

Thanks for clearing that up.I think it's time to finish earning BTC (by working or selling things off),then cashout for good and delete all my BTC clients/accounts to stay out of trouble then.

I'm not a lawyer, but the URLs themselves are just directions, they aren't the actual child abuse images. Though i guess some countries are really fucked up and might make even directions to where criminals can be found be a crime...


Btw, if you're leaving Bitcoin, please send me your coins before you delete your wallet.

Yeah send them here too.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number
Thank you for using the term child abuse images. Associating media containing evidence of inhumane violence.and rape can't be fairly called pornography by a level headed person.
Seems this is successfully alerting people to specific evidence. Being able to expose human trafficking and child abuse without implicating yourself is probably not very easy.
One might idly wonder about whether the content we're all blindly ranting about is actually objectionable or blown out of proportion.

It's probably the literal string "Child porn".

[scintill]

It's probably the literal string "Child porn".

Nope, it's URLs to and descriptions of sites for child abuse and pedophilia, or at the least porn (you can run "strings" on your block files -- I am also assuming the URLs are what they claim they are.  I guess that would be a pretty epic trolling, making legit-looking but nonexistent links that everyone freaks out about.  Still, I'm sure an eager prosecutor could contort the law to find something illegal about the text itself.)

Not to tempt fate/trolls, but when you all say "guys, it's just text, no big deal", I'm wondering what happens when images go in.  I can think of ways to embed fairly long unbroken streams of arbitrary bytes, which at the data structure level is exactly like having a file in the data structures of your file system (legally, I imagine you could argue the blockchain is not designed for storing files, therefore it is not as damning as having a file in your filesystem.)  According to my non-lawyer understanding of US law, even then Americans would be fine if we didn't know the file was there and didn't intend to access it.  Just to be safe, I plan on making sure I never again KNOW (first-hand) about anything that's in the blockchain other than how my client presents it.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

I really don't see how a link text can be considered CP at all...

If it's just a text link then it's ok. But someone can embed a low-res image...

What a ASCII image?  

Just to let you know what I jack-off to when I take a break from researching.



Done! Now, I need to do some more reading:

pedo links in the bitcoin blockchain http://pastebin.com/09WdxDiJ

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Never install or run any software or plugins linked to. Stay anonymous
at all times and never reveal information about yourself.

Looks like some sects of the LGBT have been pretty busy since the advent of Bitcoin, eh. Coincidentally, Brock "I'm-not-gay!" Pierce stumbles upon (or least first shows his face) Bitcoin during this time frame, via associates of his LGBT friends already active in the Bitcoin community to one degree or another.

[eoJ]

This should teach everyone how absurd it is to make data illegal

Information does not commit crimes

There is a password that is going to be sent across a network that activates a bomb that will wipe out civilization as you know it. Everyone knows the password and anyone can destroy the world at any moment if anyone is allowed to send that password in an email, instant message, etc.

Do you:

A) Keep to your beliefs and count your remaining seconds on earth; or
B) Agree to make that password illegal (and block it across the internet) to save everyone's lives.

Hurry up!

Yes, make that password illegal. That'll stop someone who doesn't care about blowing up the world from sending it.

[MrWDunne]

The blockchain doesn't store links or text it only stores address and stuff.  So unless they had bitcoin-qt used on an IP address of a illegal website I can't see how it can be in the blockchain.  Then all it means is an IP address has been saved.  IP addresses aren't created for any website in particular.  

Oh dear lord.

This is a reminder why being a 'Hero' member means little more than a lot of posts.

IP addresses are not stored in the blockchain. However there are several places in a transaction you can put text, some of them making it unspendable but that is not the point.

Hell, the first transaction made by Satoshi was a newspaper headline.

[dooglus]

If this is true (I can't find that transaction)  This cannot help our cause at all.

5 year later the UK press finally picked up on this story: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/20/child-abuse-imagery-bitcoin-blockchain-illegal-content

[trangprooss1]

This usually does not happen in other countries and it is hoped that programmers can handle this quickly

[lissandra3612]

I can see it on the news as a reporter asks: "It is widely reported that traces of cocaine can be found on more than 80% of US dollar paper money being circulating, even among those People never use cocaine, but we do not '

[RawDog]

In theory, "knowingly possesses" means about the same as it does in the drug context

This is very serious.  We are all going to be in trouble.  Don't download the blockchain - it is poison.

[thinkabout]

It's not that I'm satisfied with some aspects of the BTC, but I can talk about some of the tools / methods used in the world of filmmaking, but sometimes I have to endure those short-lived events. Simple because it is not 100% feasible. With most other things like camera, image / video, money and nickname film2240, I can still choose not to have any involvement with the CP though these devices can sometimes be used. For unjust purposes by others. The whole idea of ​​leaving the MOF is simply not a life in a country with difficult laws about not distributing CP. Theoretically, "inherent possession" means the same as in the drug context: possessing it long enough to know what it is, and yet choose not to remove it. So in theory, just having a copy of blockchain is enough, if the blockchain actually contains illegal content. I do not believe that blockchain, itself, contains content that it is illegal to own.

[cryptohunter]

blockchain is a good option, it is a useful technology in many cases. However, blockchain is not the best solution in every case. However, blockchain still not the best solution in every case.

at least fix this bot... I mean random comments that you know have just been inserted anywhere to boost post count are bad enough but ones that repeat a sentence twice before going off spamming other threads is too much.

[OliverDan]

Sometimes I have to endure these short facts simply because it is not 100% feasible. With most other things like camera equipment, image / video, money and nickname film2240, I can still choose not to have any involvement with the CP (never had, never will) though. These devices can sometimes be used for nefarious purposes by others. The whole idea of ​​leaving the BTC is simply not a life in a country with difficult laws about not distributing CP. "The US Department of Justice will not comment on this particular case, but a spokesman for the agency has pointed out CNNMoney for the exact wording of the law, saying that the problem becomes a crime when a person" Owning or knowingly visiting with the intention of watching "child porn. Download blockchain for some pornographic content?

[Money mani]

This is a pr issue involving the technology of bitcoin. Since the devs have begun deciding pr issues, it is now their job to comment. Could someone who is a dev please review this claim and issue a formal statement

[QuestionAuthority]

This is the kind of crap that makes me want to stop using BTC altogether in case I get arrested for unwittingly distributing offensive content under UK laws (I don't wish to get jailed for using BTC just because some idiot decided to post CP messages in the blockchain).The only thing I like about BTC is the easy way of sending money to and from other people (using only an address rather than typing in IBANS,card details,giving my address,etc with normal banks)

If this is true (and not just a rumour) then I'll have to stop using BTC in UK which is a shame.

I have questions about this:
Does the code actually load the offensive sites?
If this code can load these sites,how could the developers fail to see this happening and apply appropriate measures to remedy this issue?
How is it possible to post messages in the blockchain as I'm rather confused as to how this can work?

From what i've heard, all they put in the blockchain were URLs; and i'm not even sure if they are in plaintext.

The fact that it's URLs means that I can get arrested for unwittingly distributing or relaying CP content simply because of what some person thought was funny to put in there.Whether it's plain text or not,it'll still be enough to get me in trouble if I continue to use BTC simply because of the CP message in the blockchain.

Thanks for clearing that up.I think it's time to finish earning BTC (by working or selling things off),then cashout for good and delete all my BTC clients/accounts to stay out of trouble then.

I'm not a lawyer, but the URLs themselves are just directions, they aren't the actual child abuse images. Though i guess some countries are really fucked up and might make even directions to where criminals can be found be a crime...


Btw, if you're leaving Bitcoin, please send me your coins before you delete your wallet.

Yeah send them here too.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_number
Thank you for using the term child abuse images. Associating media containing evidence of inhumane violence.and rape can't be fairly called pornography by a level headed person.
Seems this is successfully alerting people to specific evidence. Being able to expose human trafficking and child abuse without implicating yourself is probably not very easy.
One might idly wonder about whether the content we're all blindly ranting about is actually objectionable or blown out of proportion.

It's probably the literal string "Child porn".

[kwakgyimah]

blockchain is a good option, it is a useful technology in many cases. However, blockchain is not the best solution in every case. However, blockchain still not the best solution in every case.

at least fix this bot... I mean random comments that you know have just been inserted anywhere to boost post count are bad enough but ones that repeat a sentence twice before going off spamming other threads is too much.

I believe this is an issue that has to do with programming. I believe some of these acts such as Kiddy porn should not be encouraged in blockchain teachnology, there should be sanity in blockchain technology.  Programming is really dynamic, other interesting texts  can be easily inserted in blockchain but not this poison.