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June 23, 2019, 03:02:03 PM |
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Ok I'll get a little more specific. Can you discuss the token swap process:
Who choose the 3 month hard deadline and why? Was there any pushback internally on making it such a short time period? Seemed odd at the time esp. after 3 quarters of telling people not worry about it and with a new wallet in the works. Why not wait till the new wallet was released to do it?
Guess it was David's decision to keep all the unswapped coins for the wagerr team instead instead of burning them. Let me know if that is incorrect.
Also, how many coins were lost by investors because of the swap? Last estimate I saw was like 15 million.
This is an interesting one. A solution that allowed the back and forth with Waves was possible for mainnet. With that not pursued, the swap had to end at some point. With that in mind I think a year after launch was fairly ok and team message was "swap asap" from day 1 not "dont worry about it". 16m WGR iirc. Decision I would really put down to Adam and Derek. I was vocal about how can you just claim ownership etc but deaf ears. The real lock out people should ask about is the lock on the website withdrawals when Adam knew Jan release had no chance and chose to not allow those coins to be released so people could not sell, while price crashed due to missed deadline. |
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June 23, 2019, 05:00:07 PM |
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Tippy, when did you first know Adam was pulling the strings at Wagerr? Also if Mah is a puppet what would his real position be described as?
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SuparTipstar
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June 23, 2019, 05:05:26 PM |
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Tippy, when did you first know Adam was pulling the strings at Wagerr? Also if Mah is a puppet what would his real position be described as?
Straight away but initially under guise of system architect. David's the front man. Dumbest guy in the room gets convinced to put their name on it. Prob best guy to sell the ICO since the rest attached to previous scam. Don't ever really remember David making a decision, just bringing it back to Adam and doing whatever he said. |
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June 23, 2019, 05:25:23 PM |
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A few more for you,
What I don’t get is why the elaborate scam? I mean it’s easier to take the money and run two years ago so why the effort of building the chain, wallets, etc. Why bother?
Also an answer to how many devs are attached. Development is so freakin slow it feels like a maybe a couple of kids working on an after school project for giggles.
Were WGR ICO funds used to build slickbet? Will WGR benefit? And if they were how much and are there plans to be a shared interest with ICO investors?
Somebody should write a book.
Thanks Tippy
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June 23, 2019, 05:35:02 PM
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What I don’t get is why the elaborate scam? I mean it’s easier to take the money and run two years ago so why the effort of building the chain, wallets, etc. Why bother? It's not an elaborate scam if you have many projects and the funds for one of them gains value and you decide you can use them for whatever you want, they are yours after all. Dunno what you call that. Also an answer to how many devs are attached. Development is so freakin slow it feels like a maybe a couple of kids working on an after school project for giggles. Mitchell from Ion and they got Boris / tor who is also from the paycoin thing (and did the pivx fork for wgr), back recently. From like April 18 to April 19 there was a proper dev team. Were WGR ICO funds used to build slickbet? Will WGR benefit? And if they were how much and are there plans to be a shared interest with ICO investors?
Yes. The company will benefit from share of profits. May as well have been a million. No of course will not be shared in any way with ICO investors. The sell is that WGR the company will profit from gains, but company is not sole shareholder and company funds completely in the dark anyway so it's just another way of saying never going to go into wgr blockchain. That's if it even makes money. They are not compliant with MGA as far as I know and it's the finance director of the 3re shell company on the line when it comes to them. |
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June 23, 2019, 10:56:12 PM |
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Ill ask since I'm sure everybody else is curious "What's the deal with exchanges?(in Jerry Seinfeld voice)"
PS. Somebody got banned for "being annoying" a.k.a. bringing up bitcoin cash in the telegram today. David is closing the telegram to new joiners until the new wallet comes out. I guess the falling price has people worried. Gotta prevent any future FUD, esp. if anymore deadlines are missed. Yup, everything is fine. Lol.
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Ill ask since I'm sure everybody else is curious "What's the deal with exchanges?(in Jerry Seinfeld voice)"
PS. Somebody got banned for "being annoying" a.k.a. bringing up bitcoin cash in the telegram today. David is closing the telegram to new joiners until the new wallet comes out. I guess the falling price has people worried. Gotta prevent any future FUD, esp. if anymore deadlines are missed. Yup, everything is fine. Lol.
well i dont see legit questions as fud .. there should be 20+ more millions then what hes shown us ... where is the fing money . It looks a lot like it happend exactly like tipstar said .. he used WGR ICO funds as his personal piggy bank .. |
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke -- May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.George Carlin
We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle
Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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June 24, 2019, 05:29:48 AM |
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well i dont see legit questions as fud .. there should be 20+ more millions then what hes shown us ... where is the fing money .
It looks a lot like it happend exactly like tipstar said .. he used WGR ICO funds as his personal piggy bank ..
It's the most logical conclusion...without further info that would/could prove otherwise. All of us should feel betrayed, they purposefully led the vast majority of us to believe something different...for their own (quite large) financial gain. |
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June 24, 2019, 04:10:10 PM |
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Ill ask since I'm sure everybody else is curious "What's the deal with exchanges?(in Jerry Seinfeld voice)"
PS. Somebody got banned for "being annoying" a.k.a. bringing up bitcoin cash in the telegram today. David is closing the telegram to new joiners until the new wallet comes out. I guess the falling price has people worried. Gotta prevent any future FUD, esp. if anymore deadlines are missed. Yup, everything is fine. Lol.
well i dont see legit questions as fud .. there should be 20+ more millions then what hes shown us ... where is the fing money . It looks a lot like it happend exactly like tipstar said .. he used WGR ICO funds as his personal piggy bank .. Bro...you just gotta trust David and the "Fund Managers". Good luck with that. |
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June 24, 2019, 07:19:25 PM
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Ill ask since I'm sure everybody else is curious "What's the deal with exchanges?(in Jerry Seinfeld voice)"
CoinSuper cost $150k is supposed to be gateway to okex. WGR management fucked that up barely got on CoinSuper and Okex and Huobi (the actually possible big exchanges for the project) are dead ends if not blacklisted wgr to best of my knowledge. Exchange connect outright called David a scammer as a result so good luck getting on more. I mean it's same shit as Ionomy they arguably have easier access to spends and exchange history is a nightmare. It looks a lot like it happend exactly like tipstar said .. he used WGR ICO funds as his personal piggy bank ..
I don't have all the info but I was giving whatever is asked for answers to best of my knowledge while protecting people. I had actually stopped talking about this as I had considered most of investors i respected on telegram to be informed, their decision after that but then David went extra step to aggravate (great management, again) so gloves off as far as I'm concerned and don't care about protecting people. I mean I dunno if it's allowed on here but I can drop a lot of screenshots that woulda got me instabanned on tele lol. |
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June 24, 2019, 08:50:50 PM |
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Ill ask since I'm sure everybody else is curious "What's the deal with exchanges?(in Jerry Seinfeld voice)"
CoinSuper cost $150k is supposed to be gateway to okex. WGR management fucked that up barely got on CoinSuper and Okex and Huobi (the actually possible big exchanges for the project) are dead ends if not blacklisted wgr to best of my knowledge. Exchange connect outright called David a scammer as a result so good luck getting on more. I mean it's same shit as Ionomy they arguably have easier access to spends and exchange history is a nightmare. It looks a lot like it happend exactly like tipstar said .. he used WGR ICO funds as his personal piggy bank ..
I don't have all the info but I was giving whatever is asked for answers to best of my knowledge while protecting people. I had actually stopped talking about this as I had considered most of investors i respected on telegram to be informed, their decision after that but then David went extra step to aggravate (great management, again) so gloves off as far as I'm concerned and don't care about protecting people. I mean I dunno if it's allowed on here but I can drop a lot of screenshots that woulda got me instabanned on tele lol. your rank is to low to post pictures. that's how they milk the scammers on here make them pay for copper rank to be able to post pictures. |
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke -- May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.George Carlin
We pay for life with death , so everything in between should be free. Bill Hicks -- It is during our darkest moments that we must focus to see the light. Aristotle
Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha -- The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Socrates
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June 24, 2019, 10:18:30 PM
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your rank is to low to post pictures. that's how they milk the scammers on here make them pay for copper rank to be able to post pictures.
Can I link to an image? Like here is a look at the inner workings of the QT betting results process: https://i.imgur.com/8wekmKd.pngTo people DM'ing me I can't reply cos of new account restrictions. |
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June 25, 2019, 04:32:16 AM |
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your rank is to low to post pictures. that's how they milk the scammers on here make them pay for copper rank to be able to post pictures.
Can I link to an image? Like here is a look at the inner workings of the QT betting results process:  To people DM'ing me I can't reply cos of new account restrictions. There ya go, all you need is {img}_____{/img} (substitute [] for {}) To those who want DM Tippy, let me know and we'll try to work something out. |
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