Evolution is a hoax

[TimeBits]

Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

I mean we have seen evolution in our time.
Your mom turned my 3 1/2 floppy disk into a hard drive and a little later it became a solid state drive.

We seen a robot beat the best chess players then beat everyone at go, including itself.
We seen diseases and vaccines where organisms become immune to it and actually become stronger.
We seen Atari became Nintendo became Sega became Nintendo 64 became xbox and playstation and even those have evolved.
We seen milestones reached in running speed 100m dash and long distance in humans.
We seen caterpillars turn into butterfly's

But I am not sure why not all monkeys do not become humans perhaps it is the same reason why some people change parts in their computer.

One being might buy a brand new computer, another being might upgrade parts, another being might just use the computer as is and not evolve.

I think evolution stems from self awareness which most people achieve around ages 4-5 in a study at the Max Planck institute, but some people seem never to become self aware.

The racoon`s have evolved in the city here, they are much different than the ones I see on the farm, the ones on the farm will hiss and try and fight you, one almost killed my dog as a kid a german shepherd and boarder collie mix he was the best dog ever, saved my life from a wolf once true story anyways, the racoons out here in the city are pretty chill and just evolved to eat garbage on garbage day and don`t really get aggro.

The same goes for birds, birds on the farm know you are going to shoot them because they are eating your cherries, here in the city they like walk up to you like you could punt them if you were a douche bag.

I seen a dog evolve to eat hornets for me and I am sure if that dog had enough puppies, those puppies would be pre programmed like dedicated ram to know to eat hornets off the bat. It learned bee/hornet sting me and friend mike, me no like hornet, me kill with mouth. He also knew how to open doors on his own, like with a lock. I am sure if you breed that dog enough with another dog of similar traits they already know to kill hornet before born.

There is actually no artificial intelligence It is all natural, nothing is artificial. Not a porn stars boob implants, not a computer learning, not a human learning, not a being learning. REAL ALL REAL

[Astargath]

^^^ Did you actually take your smartphone camera along last time? Your DNA test kit?

Evolution is a hoax, but you are proving that you aren't that good.

Yes I did. Genetics and DNA helps us proving evolution.

''1. Genetic Diversity. Human children inherit 3 billion base pairs of DNA from each parent, but they are not an exact duplicate. The rate of change has been measured precisely to an average of 70 bases (out of our 6 billion total) per generation. So as we go back on the family tree, there are more and more genetic differences between us and our ancestors. For example, there would be about 140 differences between your DNA and that of your four grandparents, and 210 differences between you and your eight great-grandparents, and so on. That enables us to make a prediction from the amount of genetic diversity between two species about the time since their common ancestor population lived. Using non-genetic evidence, the common ancestor between humans and chimpanzees was estimated to have lived about 6 million years ago. The calculation from genetic differences gives a figure remarkably close to the estimated value.''
https://biologos.org/common-questions/what-is-the-genetic-evidence-for-human-evolution/

You and your silly science fiction story!

How far back did you go this time? 1000 years? 10,000? 100,000? Million or more? How many different animals and plants did you track the DNA from? And over how many distant-past years did you track it?

I mean, if you did something like this, or if you have some practical way that you can measure this, then evolution might have a bit of a start. So far...

Evolution is a complete hoax.

You seem to be confused because you think we need to somehow be able to track the DNA of everything at anytime to prove evolution theory, that's not the case. As explained several times, evolution theory is the best theory we have of how we became what we are today, it's safe to assume that if something can evolve over shorter periods of time, like the lizards or the toads in the above examples, they can also do it for longer periods of time, we have the fossil record for that:
https://www.learnreligions.com/how-fossil-evidence-supports-evolution-249888
https://biologos.org/common-questions/what-does-the-fossil-record-show/

[BADecker]

^^^ Evolution theory is true... true theory, that is. Why would you think that I think that anybody would have to track DNA to prove that evolution theory exists? All people need do is look in loads of books to see that evolution theory exists, and has been written down and about many times.

Since evolution theory is real, all it says is that evolution hasn't been prove to be factual. If the theory had proven evolution to be factual, evolution would literally be able to be tracked into prehistory, factually, and not because some people said they did it, but have nothing to back up what they said. All the things they give as reasons for evolution can be refuted. They have no proof that this is the way life changes and came about.

Evolution theory only exists because some scientists liked it, and some promoters make money off it. Properly developed, Abiogenesis Theory in everything would be way stronger than evolution theory. Why? Because the fossil record has beginnings of creatures throughout itself that don't show any possible ancestor. And there is nothing to suggest that just because some creatures have similarities, that they were related in an ancestor/descendant way. That's only somebody's wishful interpretation.

Abiogenisis Theory hasn't been given the credit it deserves, because it is too close to the creation idea. And the whole reason for evolution theory is to discredit creation and the idea of God.

Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

^^^ Evolution theory is true... true theory, that is. Why would you think that I think that anybody would have to track DNA to prove that evolution theory exists? All people need do is look in loads of books to see that evolution theory exists, and has been written down and about many times.

Since evolution theory is real, all it says is that evolution hasn't been prove to be factual. If the theory had proven evolution to be factual, evolution would literally be able to be tracked into prehistory, factually, and not because some people said they did it, but have nothing to back up what they said. All the things they give as reasons for evolution can be refuted. They have no proof that this is the way life changes and came about.

Evolution theory only exists because some scientists liked it, and some promoters make money off it. Properly developed, Abiogenesis Theory in everything would be way stronger than evolution theory. Why? Because the fossil record has beginnings of creatures throughout itself that don't show any possible ancestor. And there is nothing to suggest that just because some creatures have similarities, that they were related in an ancestor/descendant way. That's only somebody's wishful interpretation.

Abiogenisis Theory hasn't been given the credit it deserves, because it is too close to the creation idea. And the whole reason for evolution theory is to discredit creation and the idea of God.

Evolution is a hoax.

''And there is nothing to suggest that just because some creatures have similarities, that they were related in an ancestor/descendant way.'' Well, of course there is, did you forget about lizards developing a valve or toads in the examples I gave you? That doesn't suggest anything, it's literally there, evolution is there, it happened and we saw it.

Do you agree that animals can adapt and pass their new genetics to their offspring?

[BADecker]

^^^ You forget that even if evolution is true and real, that the evidence shown by the lizards is such a tiny piece of the evolution puzzle, that it is essentially irrelevant. To say that it is part of evolution, you would have to prove evolution, first. So far, it's simply the part of a wild sci-fi story we call evolution theory.

Evolution remains a hoax, but...

God loves evolutionists, even if they ignore Him or hate Him. In His love He continues to do two thing:
1. Give people what they ask for (evolutionists, hints that evolution might exist);
2. Show people the truth (that nobody has proof that evolution exists).

Knowing ahead of time that future evolutionists would want proof of evolution, God made things complex enough that nobody will ever figure all of it out. So, some of it can be twisted into looking like evolution without really knowing that it is evolution or not.

Since God is giving the truth to His people, even though they can't prove evolution one way or the other, He is showing them at least as much proof against evolution as He is showing the evolutionists in favor of evolution. I showed you some of it with the idea for an abiogenesis theory.

What does this mean? It means that evolution hasn't been proven to exist. To state that it exists is turning the theory into a hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

^^^ You forget that even if evolution is true and real, that the evidence shown by the lizards is such a tiny piece of the evolution puzzle, that it is essentially irrelevant. To say that it is part of evolution, you would have to prove evolution, first. So far, it's simply the part of a wild sci-fi story we call evolution theory.

Evolution remains a hoax, but...

God loves evolutionists, even if they ignore Him or hate Him. In His love He continues to do two thing:
1. Give people what they ask for (evolutionists, hints that evolution might exist);
2. Show people the truth (that nobody has proof that evolution exists).

Knowing ahead of time that future evolutionists would want proof of evolution, God made things complex enough that nobody will ever figure all of it out. So, some of it can be twisted into looking like evolution without really knowing that it is evolution or not.

Since God is giving the truth to His people, even though they can't prove evolution one way or the other, He is showing them at least as much proof against evolution as He is showing the evolutionists in favor of evolution. I showed you some of it with the idea for an abiogenesis theory.

What does this mean? It means that evolution hasn't been proven to exist. To state that it exists is turning the theory into a hoax.

Evolution is a hoax.

'God loves evolutionists' He is kind of forced to at this point since more than 50% of religious people accept evolution. 68% of Catholics accept it.

'' that the evidence shown by the lizards is such a tiny piece of the evolution puzzle'' That's why it's called evidence, evidence are pieces of the puzzle, you have the lizards, the toads and the other 100 examples of it, all of them show literal evolution which you don't accept.

[notbatman]

^^^ Got any evidence that isn't manufactured to support your mainstream media narrative?






"Each year, thousands of trusting buyers are duped by both inexpensive and very expensive, highly realistic fakes.  More troubling, even scientists have fallen prey to the extraordinary craftsmanship of the Chinese fake fossil artists.  In 1999, highly recognized scientists along with National Geographic magazine presented an amazing new discovery of a feathered dinosaur discovered in the Liaoning Province of China.  The bird with a dinosaur's tail was named ARCHAEORAPTOR.  A year later, it was found to be a clever fake."

-- https://paleodirect.com/fake-chinese-fossils-fossil-forgery-from-china/

[Astargath]

^^^ Got any evidence that isn't manufactured to support your mainstream media narrative?






"Each year, thousands of trusting buyers are duped by both inexpensive and very expensive, highly realistic fakes.  More troubling, even scientists have fallen prey to the extraordinary craftsmanship of the Chinese fake fossil artists.  In 1999, highly recognized scientists along with National Geographic magazine presented an amazing new discovery of a feathered dinosaur discovered in the Liaoning Province of China.  The bird with a dinosaur's tail was named ARCHAEORAPTOR.  A year later, it was found to be a clever fake."

-- https://paleodirect.com/fake-chinese-fossils-fossil-forgery-from-china/

Fallacy, just because you found a fossil that was forged somewhere, it doesn't mean all the fossils are forged and I didn't ever use that one as proof. If I find someone forging something from the bible, does it mean the whole bible is fake?

Well, LOOK AT ALL THESE HOAXES
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Noah%27s_Ark_sightings
I PROVED THE BIBLE TO BE FALSE, YEEEY!!!

[BADecker]

^^^ You are so silly.

You think you proved the Bible false because nobody can find Noah's Ark with certainty. What do you think would be left of a wooden boat after 5,000 years?

The important thing is that the nation of Israel is a fastidious group of people. They were foundationally formed with Abraham, and solidly formed with their exodus from Egypt. In their early years, they were crushed by other nations many times. They were destroyed as a nation 2 major times: Babylon, and the Roman destruction in 70 AD. Yet here they are today, possibly the strongest nation in the world, considering their size.

Their main book of history - the Torah - was written down basically by Moses, so that they would have a record of God and His power. And they maintain it as truth today. Why is this important? Because they have always been such a fastidious nation in their record-keeping, that there can be nothing other than the truth written in their Tanakh.

You just don't find nations that have been scattered around the world, yet come back together after almost 1900 years, to reform themselves from the nationalists that they always have been, right on through the centuries.  There isn't any way for this to happen like it has, except that it is being directed by God, Himself.

No place for evolution in the Bible. Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

^^^ You are so silly.

You think you proved the Bible false because nobody can find Noah's Ark with certainty. What do you think would be left of a wooden boat after 5,000 years?

The important thing is that the nation of Israel is a fastidious group of people. They were foundationally formed with Abraham, and solidly formed with their exodus from Egypt. In their early years, they were crushed by other nations many times. They were destroyed as a nation 2 major times: Babylon, and the Roman destruction in 70 AD. Yet here they are today, possibly the strongest nation in the world, considering their size.

Their main book of history - the Torah - was written down basically by Moses, so that they would have a record of God and His power. And they maintain it as truth today. Why is this important? Because they have always been such a fastidious nation in their record-keeping, that there can be nothing other than the truth written in their Tanakh.

You just don't find nations that have been scattered around the world, yet come back together after almost 1900 years, to reform themselves from the nationalists that they always have been, right on through the centuries.  There isn't any way for this to happen like it has, except that it is being directed by God, Himself.

No place for evolution in the Bible. Evolution is a hoax.

''The important thing is that the nation of Israel is a fastidious group of people. They were foundationally formed with Abraham, and solidly formed with their exodus from Egypt. In their early years, they were crushed by other nations many times. They were destroyed as a nation 2 major times: Babylon, and the Roman destruction in 70 AD. Yet here they are today, possibly the strongest nation in the world, considering their size.''

So... what.

''You just don't find nations that have been scattered around the world, yet come back together after almost 1900 years, to reform themselves from the nationalists that they always have been, right on through the centuries.  There isn't any way for this to happen like it has, except that it is being directed by God, Himself.''

That's a fallacy: False Dilemma/False Dichotomy: ''A false dilemma is a type of informal fallacy in which something is falsely claimed to be an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional option.''
You are arguing that IT HAS TO BECAUSE OF GOD, however I could argue that it simply happened, one nation has to be the strongest after all, no?

[BADecker]

^^^ You ask, "so what?" The answer is in my post you quoted.

Regarding more than this or that, consider that the this is so great that there isn't any that.

Somebody hast to be #1. But when you have a #1 that so outclasses all the rest of the numbers, the rest don't even count. That's what Israel has done, both in the ways and reasons it was destroyed multiple times, and in the strength it has always manifested when it came back... and essentially, in the coming back, itself.

Creation is what exists; evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

^^^ You ask, "so what?" The answer is in my post you quoted.

Regarding more than this or that, consider that the this is so great that there isn't any that.

Somebody hast to be #1. But when you have a #1 that so outclasses all the rest of the numbers, the rest don't even count. That's what Israel has done, both in the ways and reasons it was destroyed multiple times, and in the strength it has always manifested when it came back... and essentially, in the coming back, itself.

Creation is what exists; evolution is a hoax.

''Somebody hast to be #1. But when you have a #1 that so outclasses all the rest of the numbers, the rest don't even count.'' I still don't see how that proves god did it and they weren't simply better than everyone else. Does that mean Einstein must be God's favorite human because he outclassed 99.999% of humans to an insane degree? Your logic is fallacious as explained above.

Btw, don't forget you said: 'God loves evolutionists' He is kind of forced to at this point since more than 50% of religious people accept evolution. 68% of Catholics accept it. More and more religious people accept evolution, god is failing hard, is he that dumb?

[BADecker]

^^^ God's only force is His force with which He forces Himself, because He wants to.

Great numbers of people who are wrong don't change what is right, or who believe in falsehood don't change the truth.

As for Einstein, he shows us that the Jews (God's people) are way ahead of most of the rest of us. So, get into their Book, and you might understand the proof of God, finally.

Note that I am not trying to save you. Only the Holy Spirit can do that, provided you are too weak to resist Him.

Does any of that have to do with the fact that evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

^^^ God's only force is His force with which He forces Himself, because He wants to.

Great numbers of people who are wrong don't change what is right, or who believe in falsehood don't change the truth.

As for Einstein, he shows us that the Jews (God's people) are way ahead of most of the rest of us. So, get into their Book, and you might understand the proof of God, finally.

Note that I am not trying to save you. Only the Holy Spirit can do that, provided you are too weak to resist Him.

Does any of that have to do with the fact that evolution is a hoax.

Well, I showed you all the examples of evolution you asked for, lizards literally developing a valve through adaption and passing on the genes to future generations, I really don't see what you don't understand.

[BADecker]

^^^ You certainly showed examples. But you didn't prove evolution to exist factually. Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

^^^ You certainly showed examples. But you didn't prove evolution to exist factually. Evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is when an organism "evolves" and passes their evolved features to their offspring. Lizards adapted to the new environment, developed new features and passed them to future generations. Its the literal definition of evolution.

[BADecker]

^^^ You certainly showed examples. But you didn't prove evolution to exist factually. Evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is when an organism "evolves" and passes their evolved features to their offspring. Lizards adapted to the new environment, developed new features and passed them to future generations. Its the literal definition of evolution.

There is a big difference between the thing that you said, and proof that one kind of animal changes into another kind over time. There is no way a microbe in some soup could change into a different creature, which changed into and other creature, etc., until man finally was the result... or any other plant/animal into some other plant or animal. Or do you have some proof?

You are using only a limited evolution definition, and the wrong definition for the basic thing that we are talking about in this thread. We are talking about evolution theory evolution (ETE). After all, a child in school evolves into the professional he is as an adult because of the training he received in school. So we see that there are many definitions for the "evolution" word.

There is no evidence that ETE happened. All the so-called evidence works like this: "If such and such happened, and if this and that were the results, then ETE is fact. So, ETE is real and proven." All there is in all the talk about ETE being real is, "if." There is no proof.

We don't know that the so-called evolution proof that you present won't die out sometime within the next 50 years. There was an adaptation form of evolution, but we don't know that this adaptation won't kill them all off shortly. There hasn't been nearly enough time, and our science investigations aren't complex enough, to prove with any lizard or other example, that ETE is real without long-term (thousands of years) strictly controlled observation.


If your average evolutionist professional were filthy rich, he'd be off living the good life. As it is, he grubs around in a university, or out in the field, living off university pay, or grants. But if he were smart enough to extrapolate backward to see what happened in the past, he'd be able to "extrapolate" forward in the financial field and be filthy rich. He can't see a little bit of the future, so how can he see the past? Or, he has seen the past - no ETE - and is simply not accepting it?

[notbatman]

^^^ You certainly showed examples. But you didn't prove evolution to exist factually. Evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is when an organism "evolves" and passes their evolved features to their offspring. Lizards adapted to the new environment, developed new features and passed them to future generations. Its the literal definition of evolution.

Oddly enough evolution is the one topic BADecker doesn't cuck on. I'm guessing because it plays into the upcoming one world religion and hoaxed alien invasion agenda. You on the other hand cuck on 100% of the conspiracies from 911 and vaccines to gravity and the Copernican system. You're ready and willing to get behind any conspiracy and ride that cock that's fucking me and everybody who isn't a cuck or a fag or a jew.

Adaptation doesn't prove a lineage from monkeys to man or his sons you mental midget. The theory of evolution is a fucking disinformation conspiracy and all the evidence is based on logical fallacies like you're promoting or, manufactured evidence like Piltdown Man.

[BADecker]

^^^ All you do is prove that everybody has some truth and some falsehood within himself.

Without Someone leading us by the hand, we can't tell for sure about much more than the little things around us in our lives, daily... and often we can't even tell about those.

Expressing that evolution is a fact when we can barely see what goes into making life at all, is the thing that makes evolution a hoax.

As far as the conspiracies around us, they are there, but their effects are way different than most of us think. Millions died under Stalin and Hitler. But life is more populous than ever. Even death doesn't quench the population expansion.

[sirazimuth]

I'm guessing because it plays into the upcoming one world religion and hoaxed alien invasion agenda. You on the other hand cuck on 100% of the conspiracies from 911 and vaccines to gravity and the Copernican system. You're ready and willing to get behind any conspiracy and ride that cock that's fucking me and everybody who isn't a cuck or a fag or a jew.

Adaptation doesn't prove a lineage from monkeys to man or his sons shit for brains. The theory of evolution is a fucking disinformation conspiracy and all the evidence is based on logical fallacies like you're promoting or, manufactured evidence like Piltdown Man.

holy shit dude , you are one messed up individual.
Go see a shrink or something.

Oh btw... I gave you and your good buddy BADecker some notoriety.
congrats.