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November 04, 2019, 09:13:46 AM |
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Which is more evolved: — Termite or monkey? — Gorilla or Bee? — Bird or horse?
There isn't a 'more evolved'. They have all been evolving continuously since life started on this planet. Evolution doesn't have an end state. Everything is still evolving right now.
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November 04, 2019, 09:25:30 AM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9ZnGQ7X.jpg&t=665&c=v2iqxaNnJQ8arw) Without the "missing links" the evolution of one spices into another is a faith based belief. Modern science (not the scientific method) is guilty of everything they accuse creationists of. Evolution theory is propaganda and various institutions (Smithsonian, cantral banks, etc..) in cooperation and governments and churches work together to hide the existence of giants while manufacturing evidence and promoting myths such as dinosaurs.
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styca
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November 04, 2019, 10:11:35 AM |
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Without the "missing links" the evolution of one spices into another is a faith based belief. Modern science (not the scientific method) is guilty of everything they accuse creationists of.
Evolution theory is propaganda and various institutions (Smithsonian, cantral banks, etc..) in cooperation and governments and churches work together to hide the existence of giants while manufacturing evidence and promoting myths such as dinosaurs.
Is it that you don't believe that natural selection happens, or that you don't believe it leads to evolution? Missing link - there are plenty of known links though. Surely you don't expect every gap in the fossil record to be explained for every species back to the dawn of life on Earth?
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November 04, 2019, 11:01:57 AM |
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^^^ It's that I know I'm being lied to, and that scientific consensus has been engineered by organized crime; facts twisted, omitted and manufactured to fit a corrupt narrative. Just because a theory sounds plausible and it's been drilled into your head repeatedly by authority, media and people you trust since birth doesn't make it true.
It can be shown that by selecting certain traits life can be breed, the selection however requires a conscious intervention. The whole idea of an unconscious and random "nature" or "natural" selection is a fallacy.
Once you know that earth is at the centre of universe and there's composite steel dome above you're head all the lies stick out like a sore thumb, including the claim that man fell out of a monkey's ass and the universe came from a giant cosmic fart.
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November 04, 2019, 12:10:24 PM |
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It can be shown that by selecting certain traits life can be breed, the selection however requires a conscious intervention. The whole idea of an unconscious and random "nature" or "natural" selection is a fallacy.
Scenario: times are hard on the African Savannah. Vegetation close to the ground has all been eaten. A creature with a slightly long neck, let's call it a proto-giraffe, can reach high leaves and so survives. Then times get harder. The high leaves get scarce. The only food is the very highest leaves that only the very tallest proto-giraffes can reach. Many proto-giraffes die, only those with the longest necks survive. Natural selection. They pass on their genes to their children. Now these animals have on average slightly longer necks than was the case in earlier generations. Evolution. Where's the problem here? Help me out. Let's leave the steel dome thing for now, I don't know how to respond to that.
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November 04, 2019, 01:31:52 PM |
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^^^ You've been lied to about where you live, who you are and where you came from.
The evolution of spices is nonsense outside of the spinning wet rock in a vacuum you've been deluded into thinking that you live on. As soon as you realize curved water and pressurized gas can't exist on the surface of a ball that spins a 1000 mph in a hard vacuum with no barrier, the entire game changes.
Your fictional scenario on an impossible ball may seem plausible to you, but only within the framework of the heliocentric globe model and its fallacious claim to a history billions of years. Evolution is a theory that supports a bigger lie, not any kind of science backed by observable, testable, repeatable experiments and evidences.
The wildly varying results from the various radiocarbon dating methods is a perfect example of the cherry-picking that goes on in "modern science" to support their globe inspired theories and outright lies.
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November 04, 2019, 01:44:31 PM |
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As soon as you realize curved water and pressurized gas can't exist on the surface of a ball that spins a 1000 mph in a hard vacuum with no barrier, the entire game changes.
Are you really claiming that gravity is a hoax? I can't be bothered to defend that as well. Throw something up in the air and see what happens.
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November 04, 2019, 01:54:26 PM |
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^^^ If it's denser than air it falls/sinks and if it's lighter it floats.
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November 04, 2019, 02:58:26 PM |
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^^^ If it's denser than air it falls/sinks and if it's lighter it floats.
Agreed. Sinks meaning keeps sinking until it encounters something denser. Floats meaning still sinks, but sinks less than the medium it's in. Put some wood in water, and it floats - it's still sinking towards the Earth, just less than the water is, because water is denser. I can't believe we're agreed on something! Now go bigger scale with loads of stuff in a vacuum, all sinking towards each other. Add some pressure and heat. Voila. Big ball of rock with water on the surface and air above, all sitting there together in vacuum.
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November 04, 2019, 03:20:54 PM |
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^^^ Outer space is fake, a pressurized atmosphere can't exist next to a vacuum; the earth is covered by a dome. The entirety of the big-bang/heliocentric/globe model is a giant crock of steer manure.
The earth is flat and motionless.
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November 04, 2019, 03:26:02 PM |
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^^^ Outer space is fake, a pressurized atmosphere can't exist next to a vacuum; the earth is covered by a dome. The entirety of the big-bang/heliocentric/globe model is a giant crock of steer manure.
When you discover gravity the whole world will become less magical. Until then, it is all domes, giants, electric fields, Damascus steel, light projections, optical aberrations, and illusions. LOL.
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November 04, 2019, 03:55:01 PM |
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^^^ Your mockery adds nothing to this discussion, the current state of "modern science" is completely divorced from the scientific method in order to support a corrupt and false official narrative. Gravity and evolution are unproven theories, deal with it. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYav28gl.jpg&t=665&c=j2b-MTEt7jZoVA)
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November 04, 2019, 04:18:50 PM |
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The Darwins theory of evolution is still to be proved but i do believe in evolution. As the climate and condition changed for many eons, the organism adopted to the changes and evolved for survival. Specifically , monkeys who decided to move around and out of trees , evolved during the years as they covered distances in groups and in the process discovered art, sign language, fire, stones and more.
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November 04, 2019, 04:26:48 PM |
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^^^ Your mockery adds nothing to this discussion, the current state of "modern science" is completely divorced from the scientific method in order to support a corrupt and false official narrative. Gravity and evolution are unproven theories, deal with it. https://i.imgur.com/Yav28gl.jpgGravity is real. We use it everyday. Gravity Theory is unproven. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 04, 2019, 04:33:28 PM |
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@djsugar belief is the enemy of knowing, faith has no place in the scientific arena. Prove your shit or GTFO!
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November 04, 2019, 04:34:20 PM |
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Some of the viewpoints expressed here seem completely insane to me, as I'm sure my viewpoints do to other people. It's a nice debate, and it's interesting that someone who doesn't believe in evolution also doesn't believe in gravity and thinks the earth is flat. If the problem is with just accepting what you're taught without question, then I can agree with that. We must question all our assumptions. That's why this thread is good. I just find it difficult that the evidence that convinces me fails to convince other people. To me, the evidence for gravity, spherical earth and evolution through natural selection seems absolutely overwhelming.
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November 04, 2019, 04:49:35 PM |
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^^^ Your perceptions are being managed and manipulated, start going over the evidence with a fine-tooth comb and you'll find the devil is in the details. When you start getting fierce push-back, mocked and receive overwhelming social and financial pressure to conform to established ideals, you know you're on the right track.
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November 04, 2019, 06:23:55 PM |
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The Darwins theory of evolution is still to be proved but i do believe in evolution. As the climate and condition changed for many eons, the organism adopted to the changes and evolved for survival. Specifically , monkeys who decided to move around and out of trees , evolved during the years as they covered distances in groups and in the process discovered art, sign language, fire, stones and more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0F4FBLJRE
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November 04, 2019, 09:44:36 PM |
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The Darwins theory of evolution is still to be proved but i do believe in evolution. As the climate and condition changed for many eons, the organism adopted to the changes and evolved for survival. Specifically , monkeys who decided to move around and out of trees , evolved during the years as they covered distances in groups and in the process discovered art, sign language, fire, stones and more. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0F4FBLJREThat's a neat science fiction talk that Dawkins does there. Not a lick of proof for it, however. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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November 05, 2019, 03:43:14 AM Last edit: November 05, 2019, 05:40:24 AM by creepyjas |
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That is why it is called “Theory” of Evolution. I also do not believe with this theory about humans are evolved form of monkeys. However, evolution itself is real in terms of survivability. Living things were evolving to adapt to their environment. I’m not an expert but there are explanations about this.
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