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November 01, 2017, 11:32:42 AM
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The increase in cash back is nice

blue 0 cash back
platinum 0.75%
ruby 1%
rose gold / space grey 1.5%
black 2% !!

It is NOTHING without asset contract. Wink

You will get more money with asset contract, now it is gone. And this coin is not worthy anymore. LOL

pmsl

THE PRICE IS CRASH!! Cheesy

Just kill yourself dude. Hha  Cool

If you watched the Q&A you would sound alot less like an idiot dude ffs lol.

Kill myself?? bit harsh lol Clealry you have mental issues as any normal human being would not say such things. I hope one day you get better AQZU i feel sorry for you man it must be really hard being different from normal people. you know how you find it difficult to socialise in public and find a GF etc one day things will get better for you bro. chin up

edit - Sorry AQZU i assumed your gender by calling you BRO. I know with you being a fragile millenial you may be offended by that so im sorry i assumed you were a guy Tongue

If you really watched Q&A you will know that asset contract is something else. Ffu

Now the price is crashing. What are you going to do? Upss, you are not the real investor. Even you are sell this coin right? Mwahaha.

Keep dreaming of getting GF dude. I know that you have no one in your real life. Sorry to be mean Wink

Keep talking to people to hold their MCO token. And you get profit from it. I know you did it. Wink


im buying more dude thanks for the cheap coins.
people can do what they want with their tokens they dont need me or some crazy mental health victim to consult them lol

Keep buying dude. but i think you are not.

Yeah that is true. So it means, your words cannot be trusted. lol mental health Wink
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November 01, 2017, 11:37:37 AM
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The increase in cash back is nice

blue 0 cash back
platinum 0.75%
ruby 1%
rose gold / space grey 1.5%
black 2% !!

It is NOTHING without asset contract. Wink

You will get more money with asset contract, now it is gone. And this coin is not worthy anymore. LOL

pmsl

THE PRICE IS CRASH!! Cheesy

Just kill yourself dude. Hha  Cool

If you watched the Q&A you would sound alot less like an idiot dude ffs lol.

Kill myself?? bit harsh lol Clealry you have mental issues as any normal human being would not say such things. I hope one day you get better AQZU i feel sorry for you man it must be really hard being different from normal people. you know how you find it difficult to socialise in public and find a GF etc one day things will get better for you bro. chin up

edit - Sorry AQZU i assumed your gender by calling you BRO. I know with you being a fragile millenial you may be offended by that so im sorry i assumed you were a guy Tongue

If you really watched Q&A you will know that asset contract is something else. Ffu

Now the price is crashing. What are you going to do? Upss, you are not the real investor. Even you are sell this coin right? Mwahaha.

Keep dreaming of getting GF dude. I know that you have no one in your real life. Sorry to be mean Wink

Keep talking to people to hold their MCO token. And you get profit from it. I know you did it. Wink


im buying more dude thanks for the cheap coins.
people can do what they want with their tokens they dont need me or some crazy mental health victim to consult them lol

Keep buying dude. but i think you are not.

Yeah that is true. So it means, your words cannot be trusted. lol mental health Wink




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November 01, 2017, 11:39:45 AM
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I feel sorry for you guys not leaving this scam at time... Good luck to all of you still in... Really hope you will get something from it but Kris and his team are the biggest scammers I have seen on the market with all lies and false promises...
wow now visa working with biggest scammers ? what a world to be live right ?
for those who don't know it yet, Monaco card already has green light from visa you can get your card if you a Singapore resident, japan korea is coming soon I really looking forward to see card rollout in Europe because it definitely gonna be HUGE

If you read the last several pages, you would know what the majority are talking about. This project was backed by major investors who put in money because of the interest from what was written on the whitepaper.

MCO now will not follow through one of the major points in the whitepaper that was attractive to investors and MCO get's to keep all the revenue. If you were an investor and you we're promised a cut from the revenue and the company changed their mind and said they won't share the revenue, would you still keep your investment?



Yes, I agree that the lack of trust in MCO and Kris is problem. First quick, sudden ICO, then leak of VISA picture cards, then missing a lot of deadlines, and now changing this asset contract thing... the lost trust is very hard to regain..especially by people who experienced it more than once,

On the other hand, I believe that most of the moves of Kris were correct at the given situation... he got VISA program manager thing as the only until now, with great rates compared to competition (direct without intermediary), by omitting asset contract he secured the tokens will not be delisted (I am lawyer and I know that cryptoworld  will be(is already in fact) subject of extensive regulation in big countries. When this happens soon in USA

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/hong-kong-exchange-gatecoin-will-delist-securities-ico-tokens/

it will be very interesting..

It is truth that they promised asset contracts in whitepaper at it is very bad that they will not fulfill it..On the other hand, they did not promise such great cashback rates, and they are giving it now.. You did not get what was promised to you, but you get something else what was not promised...

The only thing that I am not sure is the way that 1 % by asset contracts should have been counted (the way trumpc2016 showed, or the other , much more profitable way), it depends on the interpretation, but the difference of scheduled amount is enormous..

In the long term, I believe MCO  will be ok, but the problem is that this lack of trust (and believe that after 6 months the price of MCO token won't be much lower) will have negative influence on the number of reserved and taken cards..and will make it adoption process all much slower..unless many other tokens delist in 2-3 months..and MCO stays...

In therms of legal fundamentals, Monaco has now the advantage (Direct VISA program, more autonomy  and best rates), but the competition is not sleeping..so it will be very interesting..I believe there is place for 2-3 main players in this area..not more. But, basic thing is: everything goes or falls on the number of people willing to take (platinum) card.. There are around 10000 of us at the moment who have some significant amount of MCO.. the big question is acceptance in general public.. if Monaco is smart, they will spend a lot of money on marketing to get people who don't now anything about this negative events, delays and mistakes  and lost of trust in the previous process.. to take the card!

P.S: At the moment, I am also interested to see what is in dev update 3 (crypto in every wallet dev update - part 2) and new roadmap..
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November 01, 2017, 11:41:36 AM
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The increase in cash back is nice

blue 0 cash back
platinum 0.75%
ruby 1%
rose gold / space grey 1.5%
black 2% !!

It is NOTHING without asset contract. Wink

You will get more money with asset contract, now it is gone. And this coin is not worthy anymore. LOL

pmsl

THE PRICE IS CRASH!! Cheesy

Just kill yourself dude. Hha  Cool

If you watched the Q&A you would sound alot less like an idiot dude ffs lol.

Kill myself?? bit harsh lol Clealry you have mental issues as any normal human being would not say such things. I hope one day you get better AQZU i feel sorry for you man it must be really hard being different from normal people. you know how you find it difficult to socialise in public and find a GF etc one day things will get better for you bro. chin up

edit - Sorry AQZU i assumed your gender by calling you BRO. I know with you being a fragile millenial you may be offended by that so im sorry i assumed you were a guy Tongue

If you really watched Q&A you will know that asset contract is something else. Ffu

Now the price is crashing. What are you going to do? Upss, you are not the real investor. Even you are sell this coin right? Mwahaha.

Keep dreaming of getting GF dude. I know that you have no one in your real life. Sorry to be mean Wink

Keep talking to people to hold their MCO token. And you get profit from it. I know you did it. Wink


im buying more dude thanks for the cheap coins.
people can do what they want with their tokens they dont need me or some crazy mental health victim to consult them lol

Keep buying dude. but i think you are not.

Yeah that is true. So it means, your words cannot be trusted. lol mental health Wink




 Grin Grin Grin

So funny. There is no buy placement in there. Cheesy

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November 01, 2017, 11:43:34 AM
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OMG!!!!!!! Whh??!?!! You sell whyyyy!!!
I buy at $11 because of amazing good news, i finally put my life savings in MCO!!
Today I wake up and half my life savings disappear!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!
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November 01, 2017, 11:44:35 AM
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The increase in cash back is nice

blue 0 cash back
platinum 0.75%
ruby 1%
rose gold / space grey 1.5%
black 2% !!

It is NOTHING without asset contract. Wink

You will get more money with asset contract, now it is gone. And this coin is not worthy anymore. LOL

pmsl

THE PRICE IS CRASH!! Cheesy

Just kill yourself dude. Hha  Cool

If you watched the Q&A you would sound alot less like an idiot dude ffs lol.

Kill myself?? bit harsh lol Clealry you have mental issues as any normal human being would not say such things. I hope one day you get better AQZU i feel sorry for you man it must be really hard being different from normal people. you know how you find it difficult to socialise in public and find a GF etc one day things will get better for you bro. chin up

edit - Sorry AQZU i assumed your gender by calling you BRO. I know with you being a fragile millenial you may be offended by that so im sorry i assumed you were a guy Tongue

If you really watched Q&A you will know that asset contract is something else. Ffu

Now the price is crashing. What are you going to do? Upss, you are not the real investor. Even you are sell this coin right? Mwahaha.

Keep dreaming of getting GF dude. I know that you have no one in your real life. Sorry to be mean Wink

Keep talking to people to hold their MCO token. And you get profit from it. I know you did it. Wink


im buying more dude thanks for the cheap coins.
people can do what they want with their tokens they dont need me or some crazy mental health victim to consult them lol

Keep buying dude. but i think you are not.

Yeah that is true. So it means, your words cannot be trusted. lol mental health Wink




 Grin Grin Grin

So funny. There is no buy placement in there. Cheesy


You really are dumb arnt you ffs. its not there because i have already bought them ffs whole new level of dumb here folks this is why u should not listen to trolls like AQZU he doesnt even know the difference between a buy order and order history lmao

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November 01, 2017, 11:49:05 AM
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The increase in cash back is nice

blue 0 cash back
platinum 0.75%
ruby 1%
rose gold / space grey 1.5%
black 2% !!

It is NOTHING without asset contract. Wink

You will get more money with asset contract, now it is gone. And this coin is not worthy anymore. LOL

pmsl

THE PRICE IS CRASH!! Cheesy

Just kill yourself dude. Hha  Cool

If you watched the Q&A you would sound alot less like an idiot dude ffs lol.

Kill myself?? bit harsh lol Clealry you have mental issues as any normal human being would not say such things. I hope one day you get better AQZU i feel sorry for you man it must be really hard being different from normal people. you know how you find it difficult to socialise in public and find a GF etc one day things will get better for you bro. chin up

edit - Sorry AQZU i assumed your gender by calling you BRO. I know with you being a fragile millenial you may be offended by that so im sorry i assumed you were a guy Tongue

If you really watched Q&A you will know that asset contract is something else. Ffu

Now the price is crashing. What are you going to do? Upss, you are not the real investor. Even you are sell this coin right? Mwahaha.

Keep dreaming of getting GF dude. I know that you have no one in your real life. Sorry to be mean Wink

Keep talking to people to hold their MCO token. And you get profit from it. I know you did it. Wink


im buying more dude thanks for the cheap coins.
people can do what they want with their tokens they dont need me or some crazy mental health victim to consult them lol

Keep buying dude. but i think you are not.

Yeah that is true. So it means, your words cannot be trusted. lol mental health Wink




 Grin Grin Grin

So funny. There is no buy placement in there. Cheesy


You really are dumb arnt you ffs. its not there because i have already bought them ffs whole new level of dumb here folks this is why u should not listen to trolls like AQZU he doesnt even know the difference between a buy order and order history lmao

Then why dont you buy more at current price? So it means you are not buying more. Cheesy

Dont trust DigitalNinja the fudders. He is trying to manipulate you guys. When the price high he sell, but want you all to HODL when price is low. What an investor. Hha Cheesy
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November 01, 2017, 11:55:10 AM
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The increase in cash back is nice

blue 0 cash back
platinum 0.75%
ruby 1%
rose gold / space grey 1.5%
black 2% !!

It is NOTHING without asset contract. Wink

You will get more money with asset contract, now it is gone. And this coin is not worthy anymore. LOL

pmsl

THE PRICE IS CRASH!! Cheesy

Just kill yourself dude. Hha  Cool

If you watched the Q&A you would sound alot less like an idiot dude ffs lol.

Kill myself?? bit harsh lol Clealry you have mental issues as any normal human being would not say such things. I hope one day you get better AQZU i feel sorry for you man it must be really hard being different from normal people. you know how you find it difficult to socialise in public and find a GF etc one day things will get better for you bro. chin up

edit - Sorry AQZU i assumed your gender by calling you BRO. I know with you being a fragile millenial you may be offended by that so im sorry i assumed you were a guy Tongue

If you really watched Q&A you will know that asset contract is something else. Ffu

Now the price is crashing. What are you going to do? Upss, you are not the real investor. Even you are sell this coin right? Mwahaha.

Keep dreaming of getting GF dude. I know that you have no one in your real life. Sorry to be mean Wink

Keep talking to people to hold their MCO token. And you get profit from it. I know you did it. Wink


im buying more dude thanks for the cheap coins.
people can do what they want with their tokens they dont need me or some crazy mental health victim to consult them lol

Keep buying dude. but i think you are not.

Yeah that is true. So it means, your words cannot be trusted. lol mental health Wink




 Grin Grin Grin

So funny. There is no buy placement in there. Cheesy


You really are dumb arnt you ffs. its not there because i have already bought them ffs whole new level of dumb here folks this is why u should not listen to trolls like AQZU he doesnt even know the difference between a buy order and order history lmao

Then why dont you buy more at current price? So it means you are not buying more. Cheesy

Dont trust DigitalNinja the fudders. He is trying to manipulate you guys. When the price high he sell, but want you all to HODL when price is low. What an investor. Hha Cheesy
TBH i have wasted enough energy with you. you are eating away at my trading time. and for the record i have held x amount of mco since after the ico and i have bought more not sold. if the price drops more because ppl listen to tards like you i will buy more.... like i did this morning.
AQZU its been fun dude but you really are a troll tard that makes storys up in your head and belives them. good luck in life dude you will need all the help you can get. people can read what we have written here today and make their own mind up who is the real troll and your past post history doesnt do you any favours. peace out troll tard Smiley

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November 01, 2017, 11:56:57 AM
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MCO token should be worth about as much as  FUCK token. At least FUCK token is deflationary whereas MCO can create as many tokens as they wish. MCO token used to represent fees, and now they are giving fees from investors to cardholders instead, leaving us with nothing. The only value I see from MCO token is the requirement for cardholders, say 50 tokens for a card, but if token drops down to $0.1 per token, then that's only $5 in additional money flowing into crushed MCO price.

I own over 1500 tokens at this moment, I was under the assumption fraud isn't legal and management isn't that stupid or will risk facing class action lawsuit. So I will hold. MCO have huge potential, and management team is good at promoting. But probably horrendous at realizing the value of this company doesn't come from the pitiful amount of fees they can collect, but rather valuation from token, which they just crashed.

Visa processed about 100 billion transactions, with total value of 6.8 trillion+, 15 billion in revenue, and 6 billion net yearly, and trades at 40 times yearly earnings or 251 billion. See yahoo finance VISA is worth 251 billion https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/v?p=v  

Now, if Monaco get just just 0.1% of what visa does, which would be 100 million transactions, 15 million revenue, 6 million net earnings. It would be at 250 million market cap with 40 times P/E multiple. And given the rate of growth of MCO, it could easily fetch 100 times P/E, making it a billion dollar company versus 60 million now. Assuming it's a security. If it's a crypto maybe even higher valuation as there is less compliance costs. But no, Kris has to take that tiny amount of revenue for himself. The management team can easily become billionaires 5 years down the road if they actually expand at the same rate they projected in the whitepaper, and token valuation could be realized not just by dividend model, but can use token buybacks, which is similar to dividend model and bypass security laws.  



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November 01, 2017, 11:59:07 AM
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The increase in cash back is nice

blue 0 cash back
platinum 0.75%
ruby 1%
rose gold / space grey 1.5%
black 2% !!

It is NOTHING without asset contract. Wink

You will get more money with asset contract, now it is gone. And this coin is not worthy anymore. LOL

pmsl

THE PRICE IS CRASH!! Cheesy

Just kill yourself dude. Hha  Cool

If you watched the Q&A you would sound alot less like an idiot dude ffs lol.

Kill myself?? bit harsh lol Clealry you have mental issues as any normal human being would not say such things. I hope one day you get better AQZU i feel sorry for you man it must be really hard being different from normal people. you know how you find it difficult to socialise in public and find a GF etc one day things will get better for you bro. chin up

edit - Sorry AQZU i assumed your gender by calling you BRO. I know with you being a fragile millenial you may be offended by that so im sorry i assumed you were a guy Tongue

If you really watched Q&A you will know that asset contract is something else. Ffu

Now the price is crashing. What are you going to do? Upss, you are not the real investor. Even you are sell this coin right? Mwahaha.

Keep dreaming of getting GF dude. I know that you have no one in your real life. Sorry to be mean Wink

Keep talking to people to hold their MCO token. And you get profit from it. I know you did it. Wink


im buying more dude thanks for the cheap coins.
people can do what they want with their tokens they dont need me or some crazy mental health victim to consult them lol

Keep buying dude. but i think you are not.

Yeah that is true. So it means, your words cannot be trusted. lol mental health Wink




 Grin Grin Grin

So funny. There is no buy placement in there. Cheesy


You really are dumb arnt you ffs. its not there because i have already bought them ffs whole new level of dumb here folks this is why u should not listen to trolls like AQZU he doesnt even know the difference between a buy order and order history lmao

Then why dont you buy more at current price? So it means you are not buying more. Cheesy

Dont trust DigitalNinja the fudders. He is trying to manipulate you guys. When the price high he sell, but want you all to HODL when price is low. What an investor. Hha Cheesy
TBH i have wasted enough energy with you. you are eating away at my trading time. and for the record i have held x amount of mco since after the ico and i have bought more not sold. if the price drops more because ppl listen to tards like you i will buy more.... like i did this morning.
AQZU its been fun dude but you really are a troll tard that makes storys up in your head and belives them. good luck in life dude you will need all the help you can get. people can read what we have written here today and make their own mind up who is the real troll and your past post history doesnt do you any favours. peace out troll tard Smiley

Yup. People already know what are you doing. People can see your last post. When price is up you are here to comment all fudders. When the price is down you want all people to HODL so you can buy at cheaper price. What a great strategy Cheesy. So people will know who is the real FUDders.

Peace out. Keep FUD DigitalNinja. Wink
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November 01, 2017, 12:04:05 PM
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The increase in cash back is nice

blue 0 cash back
platinum 0.75%
ruby 1%
rose gold / space grey 1.5%
black 2% !!

It is NOTHING without asset contract. Wink

You will get more money with asset contract, now it is gone. And this coin is not worthy anymore. LOL

pmsl

THE PRICE IS CRASH!! Cheesy

Just kill yourself dude. Hha  Cool

If you watched the Q&A you would sound alot less like an idiot dude ffs lol.

Kill myself?? bit harsh lol Clealry you have mental issues as any normal human being would not say such things. I hope one day you get better AQZU i feel sorry for you man it must be really hard being different from normal people. you know how you find it difficult to socialise in public and find a GF etc one day things will get better for you bro. chin up

edit - Sorry AQZU i assumed your gender by calling you BRO. I know with you being a fragile millenial you may be offended by that so im sorry i assumed you were a guy Tongue

If you really watched Q&A you will know that asset contract is something else. Ffu

Now the price is crashing. What are you going to do? Upss, you are not the real investor. Even you are sell this coin right? Mwahaha.

Keep dreaming of getting GF dude. I know that you have no one in your real life. Sorry to be mean Wink

Keep talking to people to hold their MCO token. And you get profit from it. I know you did it. Wink


im buying more dude thanks for the cheap coins.
people can do what they want with their tokens they dont need me or some crazy mental health victim to consult them lol

Keep buying dude. but i think you are not.

Yeah that is true. So it means, your words cannot be trusted. lol mental health Wink




 Grin Grin Grin

So funny. There is no buy placement in there. Cheesy


You really are dumb arnt you ffs. its not there because i have already bought them ffs whole new level of dumb here folks this is why u should not listen to trolls like AQZU he doesnt even know the difference between a buy order and order history lmao

Then why dont you buy more at current price? So it means you are not buying more. Cheesy

Dont trust DigitalNinja the fudders. He is trying to manipulate you guys. When the price high he sell, but want you all to HODL when price is low. What an investor. Hha Cheesy
TBH i have wasted enough energy with you. you are eating away at my trading time. and for the record i have held x amount of mco since after the ico and i have bought more not sold. if the price drops more because ppl listen to tards like you i will buy more.... like i did this morning.
AQZU its been fun dude but you really are a troll tard that makes storys up in your head and belives them. good luck in life dude you will need all the help you can get. people can read what we have written here today and make their own mind up who is the real troll and your past post history doesnt do you any favours. peace out troll tard Smiley

Yup. People already know what are you doing. People can see your last post. When price is up you are here to comment all fudders. When the price is down you want all people to HODL so you can buy at cheaper price. What a great strategy Cheesy. So people will know who is the real FUDders.

Peace out. Keep FUD DigitalNinja. Wink
Sorry last time i will pick your post to bits i promise. but what you said is i want the price to go lower so i can buy? then why would i be saying HODL you dummy if ppl hodl then the price wont drop fck me another example of how dumb you are. actually rofl at your stupidity

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November 01, 2017, 12:06:53 PM
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The increase in cash back is nice

blue 0 cash back
platinum 0.75%
ruby 1%
rose gold / space grey 1.5%
black 2% !!

It is NOTHING without asset contract. Wink

You will get more money with asset contract, now it is gone. And this coin is not worthy anymore. LOL

pmsl

THE PRICE IS CRASH!! Cheesy

Just kill yourself dude. Hha  Cool

If you watched the Q&A you would sound alot less like an idiot dude ffs lol.

Kill myself?? bit harsh lol Clealry you have mental issues as any normal human being would not say such things. I hope one day you get better AQZU i feel sorry for you man it must be really hard being different from normal people. you know how you find it difficult to socialise in public and find a GF etc one day things will get better for you bro. chin up

edit - Sorry AQZU i assumed your gender by calling you BRO. I know with you being a fragile millenial you may be offended by that so im sorry i assumed you were a guy Tongue

If you really watched Q&A you will know that asset contract is something else. Ffu

Now the price is crashing. What are you going to do? Upss, you are not the real investor. Even you are sell this coin right? Mwahaha.

Keep dreaming of getting GF dude. I know that you have no one in your real life. Sorry to be mean Wink

Keep talking to people to hold their MCO token. And you get profit from it. I know you did it. Wink


im buying more dude thanks for the cheap coins.
people can do what they want with their tokens they dont need me or some crazy mental health victim to consult them lol

Keep buying dude. but i think you are not.

Yeah that is true. So it means, your words cannot be trusted. lol mental health Wink




 Grin Grin Grin

So funny. There is no buy placement in there. Cheesy


You really are dumb arnt you ffs. its not there because i have already bought them ffs whole new level of dumb here folks this is why u should not listen to trolls like AQZU he doesnt even know the difference between a buy order and order history lmao

Then why dont you buy more at current price? So it means you are not buying more. Cheesy

Dont trust DigitalNinja the fudders. He is trying to manipulate you guys. When the price high he sell, but want you all to HODL when price is low. What an investor. Hha Cheesy
TBH i have wasted enough energy with you. you are eating away at my trading time. and for the record i have held x amount of mco since after the ico and i have bought more not sold. if the price drops more because ppl listen to tards like you i will buy more.... like i did this morning.
AQZU its been fun dude but you really are a troll tard that makes storys up in your head and belives them. good luck in life dude you will need all the help you can get. people can read what we have written here today and make their own mind up who is the real troll and your past post history doesnt do you any favours. peace out troll tard Smiley

Yup. People already know what are you doing. People can see your last post. When price is up you are here to comment all fudders. When the price is down you want all people to HODL so you can buy at cheaper price. What a great strategy Cheesy. So people will know who is the real FUDders.

Peace out. Keep FUD DigitalNinja. Wink
Sorry last time i will pick your post to bits i promise. but what you said is i want the price to go lower so i can buy? then why would i be saying HODL you dummy if ppl hodl then the price wont drop fck me another example of how dumb you are. actually rofl at your stupidity

People already understand what you're aiming for. People can see your past post. Dont worry. Now, it is you who the real FUDders. Wink

Ah i forgot that i wasted your energy. Sorry for disturbing you. Keep FUD Wink
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November 01, 2017, 12:10:24 PM
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Herman, thanks for your inputs, do you think there is any legal basis for token holders to sue Monaco at this moment? It's like me investing in a business that promise me profit-share, but then suddenly changes the rule and I am left out from profit-sharing, and given to me something is that materially different. When I invested in Monaco I was expecting fees collected to be distributed to me, but now it's just used for getting debit card which cause my token value to crash. Do I have the legal basis for starting a class action lawsuit?

I feel sorry for you guys not leaving this scam at time... Good luck to all of you still in... Really hope you will get something from it but Kris and his team are the biggest scammers I have seen on the market with all lies and false promises...
wow now visa working with biggest scammers ? what a world to be live right ?
for those who don't know it yet, Monaco card already has green light from visa you can get your card if you a Singapore resident, japan korea is coming soon I really looking forward to see card rollout in Europe because it definitely gonna be HUGE

If you read the last several pages, you would know what the majority are talking about. This project was backed by major investors who put in money because of the interest from what was written on the whitepaper.

MCO now will not follow through one of the major points in the whitepaper that was attractive to investors and MCO get's to keep all the revenue. If you were an investor and you we're promised a cut from the revenue and the company changed their mind and said they won't share the revenue, would you still keep your investment?



Yes, I agree that the lack of trust in MCO and Kris is problem. First quick, sudden ICO, then leak of VISA picture cards, then missing a lot of deadlines, and now changing this asset contract thing... the lost trust is very hard to regain..especially by people who experienced it more than once,

On the other hand, I believe that most of the moves of Kris were correct at the given situation... he got VISA program manager thing as the only until now, with great rates compared to competition (direct without intermediary), by omitting asset contract he secured the tokens will not be delisted (I am lawyer and I know that cryptoworld  will be(is already in fact) subject of extensive regulation in big countries. When this happens soon in USA

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/hong-kong-exchange-gatecoin-will-delist-securities-ico-tokens/

it will be very interesting..

It is truth that they promised asset contracts in whitepaper at it is very bad that they will not fulfill it..On the other hand, they did not promise such great cashback rates, and they are giving it now.. You did not get what was promised to you, but you get something else what was not promised...

The only thing that I am not sure is the way that 1 % by asset contracts should have been counted (the way trumpc2016 showed, or the other , much more profitable way), it depends on the interpretation, but the difference of scheduled amount is enormous..

In the long term, I believe MCO  will be ok, but the problem is that this lack of trust (and believe that after 6 months the price of MCO token won't be much lower) will have negative influence on the number of reserved and taken cards..and will make it adoption process all much slower..unless many other tokens delist in 2-3 months..and MCO stays...

In therms of legal fundamentals, Monaco has now the advantage (Direct VISA program, more autonomy  and best rates), but the competition is not sleeping..so it will be very interesting..I believe there is place for 2-3 main players in this area..not more. But, basic thing is: everything goes or falls on the number of people willing to take (platinum) card.. There are around 10000 of us at the moment who have some significant amount of MCO.. the big question is acceptance in general public.. if Monaco is smart, they will spend a lot of money on marketing to get people who don't now anything about this negative events, delays and mistakes  and lost of trust in the previous process.. to take the card!

P.S: At the moment, I am also interested to see what is in dev update 3 (crypto in every wallet dev update - part 2) and new roadmap..

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November 01, 2017, 12:12:12 PM
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I feel like im stealing these mco tokens at these prices.

Edit that was some easy profit from weak hands thanks  Grin

r u out of your mind? this mco token is useless - the only feature now : get it to pay the metall cards...

it has no value at all anymore, it is just a token nothing else, price will drop to 25cets
even kris said he will sell his mco?! how can u still try to convince people to buy a useless coin?

and even if u get a mco ultra card for 50.000mco - whats the benfit? 2% ?!?!? WOW if u spend a 20.000$ a year
u will get a 400$ cashback?! thats nothing u can make much more in one single lucky trade during this year..

from a company perspective its clear why they didnt pre- warn holders that there are changes incomming that could
affect the mco price, because they had to dump thier own coins, but since the people here
were the ones that actually made monaco possible by investing their eth into the project, it would have been the right way to tell people not
to hodl mco until the news are released.


bye bye monaco...
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November 01, 2017, 12:14:10 PM
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The fact that Monaco decided to remove asset contract although it was promised  during ICO is very interesting from the legal point of view, and one of the reasons why ICOs should be much more regulated - in that view, the governments are doing good thing...short term, it creates fear and missinterpretation ("they are banning crypto" etc..) but long term it helps to create healthier investment environment and protect token buyers. Now they are rather unprotected..and many of them believe that they have the legal status of stock buyers at IPOs..but they are far from it..
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November 01, 2017, 12:18:49 PM
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I feel like im stealing these mco tokens at these prices.

Edit that was some easy profit from weak hands thanks  Grin

r u out of your mind? this mco token is useless - the only feature now : get it to pay the metall cards...

it has no value at all anymore, it is just a token nothing else, price will drop to 25cets
even kris sayd he will sell his mco?! how can u still try to convince people to buy a useless coin?

and even if u get a mco ultra card for 50.000mco - whats the benfit? 2% ?!?!? WOW if u spend a 20.000$ a year
u will get a 400$ cashback?! thats nothing u can make much more in one single lucky trade during this year..

from a company perspective its clear why they didnt pre- warn holders that there are changes incomming that could
affect the mco price, because they had to dump thier own coins, but since the people here
were the ones that actually made monaco possible by investing thier eth into the project, it would have been the right way to tell people not
to hodl mco until the news are released.


bye bye monaco...

Its not useless i will be locking up mco to use my card. and then i will use that card to buy things and also i will load my mco account with fiat from my bank and i will swap it to BTC eth MCO etc. this is valuable alone i dont have to use localbitcoins or any other P2P exchange to purchase btc any more. i see value in that alone, value also comes from being able to trade the token on exchanges which the competition will not be able to in the coming months.
But hey what evere bro you sell those tokens on the trolls advice makes no difference to me i will still be able to benefit from the fiat to btc gateway mco has etc.

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November 01, 2017, 12:19:47 PM
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@Pixiu

I must say I am specialized for other area of law, not this one..but to my best knowledge..there is no chance of success with that claim.

But, I repeat, there are people who are much more competent for that area than I am...so...don't take my opinion as safe and correct answer. On the other hand, since this is in legal terms "wild west" in many aspects, I believe the even courts are not sure and should make some precedents as guidance for future.
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November 01, 2017, 12:26:38 PM
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up up i think 1-2 days 100 usd.
Wish it will.

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November 01, 2017, 12:28:23 PM
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up up i think 1-2 days 100 usd.

 Grin Grin Grin  Grin

Seriously, I don't believe that MCO token will ever reach 100 USD, but if it does, it will be in 2-3 years.. definitely not before..
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scam scam scam. the founders are cashing out on this sinking ship!  Grin
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