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May 01, 2013, 11:06:16 PM
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who confirmed? I do not have the "confirm" in order.
Where the heck do you confirm at?? Mine says "Pending Acceptance" but there's no button or anything to accept the thing. Ridiculous, cc was charged months ago... |
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flound1129 (OP)
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May 01, 2013, 11:07:30 PM |
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they may or may not be "shipping", it is likely they will be shipping "sometime soon". I would expect that their credit card processor is making them do this as when orders do not ship on time there are regulations about how you have to notify customers and get their approval to keep their order open.
They use Paypal, as far as I know they never accepted credit directly. |
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May 01, 2013, 11:08:41 PM |
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they may or may not be "shipping", it is likely they will be shipping "sometime soon". I would expect that their credit card processor is making them do this as when orders do not ship on time there are regulations about how you have to notify customers and get their approval to keep their order open.
They use Paypal, as far as I know they never accepted credit directly. Same regulations apply. And, I imagine with a couple people complaining they actually need to start following some rules now. |
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May 01, 2013, 11:12:54 PM |
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Read carefully the fine print and think careully before confirming, unfortunately this is not good news
Would you care to elaborate? It looks they are just covering their asses, they use subtle wording to URGE you to confirm ("to get your place in the building and shipping queue") and at the end of the day you confirm you are OK to whatever they ship whenever they ship it (no confirmed specs, you just accept whatever they are, same thing for shipping date) I'm pretty sure it states that orders will be filled to meet the original hashing power that you bought. Yeah, guaranteed hashrate, but no guarantee on power specs or shipping date - right? And you accept that by confirming. |
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flound1129 (OP)
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May 01, 2013, 11:25:51 PM |
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Yeah, guaranteed hashrate, but no guarantee on power specs or shipping date - right? And you accept that by confirming.
There was never a guarantee on ship date, and even if power doubled it would still be the lowest power ASIC solution by far. Given that your only alternative is getting a refund, I'd imagine this is the better option if you actually still want your unit. |
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May 01, 2013, 11:28:58 PM |
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Yeah, guaranteed hashrate, but no guarantee on power specs or shipping date - right? And you accept that by confirming.
There was never a guarantee on ship date, and even if power doubled it would still be the lowest power ASIC solution by far. Given that your only alternative is getting a refund, I'd imagine this is the better option if you actually still want your unit. Most likely the motivation for this "update" email is that they are being threatened with impounds. You either show that people are aware of constant delays in your shipping or we will hold $XXX to make sure we have enough if people ask us for refunds -- this is a common practice with paypal. I imagine when you are only shipping jallies that cost you almost as much as you charged for them, that you really would want to keep the cash flowing in and not get impounded by your processor. |
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May 01, 2013, 11:31:07 PM |
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I confirmed,,,, I confirmed..  |
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flound1129 (OP)
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May 02, 2013, 12:03:09 AM |
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Most likely the motivation for this "update" email is that they are being threatened with impounds. You either show that people are aware of constant delays in your shipping or we will hold $XXX to make sure we have enough if people ask us for refunds -- this is a common practice with paypal.
I imagine when you are only shipping jallies that cost you almost as much as you charged for them, that you really would want to keep the cash flowing in and not get impounded by your processor.
Probably. But as I said above, if you still want your unit you really don't have much of a choice. |
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May 02, 2013, 12:11:02 AM |
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Most likely the motivation for this "update" email is that they are being threatened with impounds. You either show that people are aware of constant delays in your shipping or we will hold $XXX to make sure we have enough if people ask us for refunds -- this is a common practice with paypal.
I imagine when you are only shipping jallies that cost you almost as much as you charged for them, that you really would want to keep the cash flowing in and not get impounded by your processor.
Probably. But as I said above, if you still want your unit you really don't have much of a choice. Given this and given Avalon's failure on delivering on time, I think this is my last foray into buying anything from anyone unless they ship same day (like friedcat does). Otherwise, I am just an investor in someone else's profit with no ownership and taking all the risk for them. |
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May 02, 2013, 12:15:04 AM |
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We are doing this to be sure everyone is aware of the power issue (and to a lesser extent the size issue re Jalapeno/Single) with the product and accepts the changed specs. If not, we will happily refund your money, since you may have ordered a product with different specs than what we are forced to send.
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If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it. There was never anything there in the first place.
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May 02, 2013, 12:16:40 AM |
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Awesome news looking forward to repeat business.
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May 02, 2013, 12:18:18 AM |
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We are doing this to be sure everyone is aware of the power issue (and to a lesser extent the size issue re Jalapeno/Single) with the product and accepts the changed specs. If not, we will happily refund your money, since you may have ordered a product with different specs than what we are forced to send.
Kudos Josh. Well written and a great explanation. |
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May 02, 2013, 01:18:39 AM |
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We are doing this to be sure everyone is aware of the power issue (and to a lesser extent the size issue re Jalapeno/Single) with the product and accepts the changed specs. If not, we will happily refund your money, since you may have ordered a product with different specs than what we are forced to send.
I received this email and, although I do own one Single, I do not have a pre-order. Did you send these to all previous customers as a combination of both the shipping announcement and the need to confirm for those who have pre-orders? Regardless, best of luck with this roll-out. As I stated above, I don't currently have any BFL hardware on pre-order, but will definitely keep an eye on progress going forward. IMO, Bitcoin badly needs competition in the ASIC space and hope you ramp up shipping quickly. |
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May 02, 2013, 01:37:47 AM |
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I confirmed,,,, I confirmed.. Ok, Can you tell us more about how to confirm the order? Thanks. |
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May 02, 2013, 01:42:51 AM |
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I confirmed,,,, I confirmed.. How? I got the same email but my BFL account has no "confirm feature" that I could find.... Please enlighten me/us |
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May 02, 2013, 01:47:11 AM |
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rigs have same hash power but bigger case and powered by the wall. i confirmed. guess we shall seeee.
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May 02, 2013, 01:59:09 AM |
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Got the email... power issue doesn't bother me, can't wait  To confirm you just have to accept the box that pops up telling you about the "power issues" (i.e. plug into wall as opposed to USB). May be only for Jalapenos don't know about the others. |
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May 02, 2013, 03:02:30 AM |
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Yay I confirmed. xD Anyone have a clue when a late March order might arrive? They're now saying that if you order today, it'll take two months, which is quicker than I was expecting.
Wait, why am I even asking about shipping guesses? This is BFL... ;p
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May 02, 2013, 03:10:14 AM |
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lol ya who cares about power gimme those hashes now plz. .081$ per kwhr here
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May 02, 2013, 06:11:47 AM |
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lol ya who cares about power gimme those hashes now plz. .081$ per kwhr here
You will care about power consumption sooner than you think. |
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