[ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty

[Frank37]

My experiences with TrueFlip after a few weeks:
 

First the good part:

I deposited Bitcoin some weeks ago and played lottery with it several times at TrueFlip.io.

The system to play lottery works fine and easy to handling. Through the TrueFlip videos at Youtube I learned how to calculate the lottery numbers based on the block after the draw on blockchain. It is very transparent, even for me as a non-tech-freak.

I am very satisfied: the system works stably. I have played several draws, and even once won a small amount, even the payoff works perfectly.

Small note: It would be good if Deposit and Withdrawal were done faster for the future (automatically instead of manually by the team).


Now my worries:

Convinced by the system, I read the whitepaper and the token-sale papers at the beginning of the ICO. So I bought several TFL Tokens and am now proud token holder.

The reason for the token purchase is in my case less speculative (I am not altcoin- or token-trader), but more because I want to benefit from the distributions for tokenholders. As I understand the whitepaper, 10-15% of the lottery will go to the tokenholder. I se that like a dividend on stocks.

But meanwhile, many new information is circulating and I am something confused... I'm reading about a lottery for tokenholders (why not? I am happy to receive a lottery as a free gift). However, this does not replace the promise of the 10-15% to the tokenholders, and I am really expecting and want to receive tokens or coins for the 10-15%, and not just lottery tickets. I mean; please do not exchange the dividends with lotteries!

I also read that the 10-15% dividends are paid out every few months.

I would like to have more transparency and some explanations on this topic, if one of the team members can find the time to explain this in a few words for us, the next days here in this forum?

Best regards
M

For these and many other reasons I didn't take part on this ICO, to many red flags. And my belly said NO. Maybe the team are not scammers, but then they are not capable of taking care for their users.

[1714053893]

1714053893

[1714053893]

1714053893

[self1sch]

Wasn't there a slider on the ico page which showed how much revenue u get when certain amounts of tickets were bought montly? It didn't say anything about free lottery tickets... 

[mela65]

Hello manager, i also see that my stake is not counted. If you need some mor information, please let me know it
Thanks

[alinda]

Hello manager, i also see that my stake is not counted. If you need some mor information, please let me know it
Thanks

The reason can be like you might not have posted during the week and so you have not received the stakes for it.As said earlier in some of the posts you are to send them PM if you have issues with your stakes.

[Dobrii]

A month has passed, I still have not received a free ticket. How can you be trusted after this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1928663.msg20243304#msg20243304

[TrueFlip.io]

I
When can i see to total BTC/ETH received for the ICO

Can i keep my signature ?
I had be active on the 4th weeks...But you don t count it...if you have time to check

I m in a hurry to play the games

Hello,

to get your stakes for 4 week you had to make 3+ posts during 26 and 28 of July.
You have only 1, so you don't get stakes for this week.

You may take your signature off.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io

[TrueFlip.io]

How long does a withdrawal usually take? I requested a small withdrawal 48 hours ago, nothing yet except an automated email stating that the withdrawal will be issued manually (?). Missed out on BCC split because of this

Hello timvim,

if your question is about lottery withdrawal, it may take up to 4 days.
You may ask about it to the support@trueflip.io and get the answer faster.
They will need your registration email to find out the situation.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io

I have now contacted support@trueflip.io, since I still have not received my withdrawal. It has now been 4 days since I tried to withdraw...

Why Reserve status still not complete in my purchases?

So I cant move coins to etherium wallet

Hello!

I can't help you here with support questions, because to find them out I need to ask you personal information.
To find out what is going on with your already done support requests I have to do the same - ask your emails.

So, if you want to get your answers, ask support@trueflip.io directly.

The withdrawal usually takes some days.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io

[TrueFlip.io]

Hello,

yes, nobody hasn't recieved. The free ticket system is out of order on the site platform with ICO.

This week we are changing the platform and free tickets will come back.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io

A month has passed, I still have not received a free ticket. How can you be trusted after this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1928663.msg20243304#msg20243304

"i want to try my luck" @deloreandel

thanks

[TrueFlip.io]

   
Re: [ANN] TrueFlip - Become a part of the world's largest blockchain lottery +Bounty
Today at 07:46:12 AM
   

 
My experiences with TrueFlip after a few weeks:
 

First the good part:

I deposited Bitcoin some weeks ago and played lottery with it several times at TrueFlip.io.

The system to play lottery works fine and easy to handling. Through the TrueFlip videos at Youtube I learned how to calculate the lottery numbers based on the block after the draw on blockchain. It is very transparent, even for me as a non-tech-freak.

I am very satisfied: the system works stably. I have played several draws, and even once won a small amount, even the payoff works perfectly.

Small note: It would be good if Deposit and Withdrawal were done faster for the future (automatically instead of manually by the team).


Now my worries:

Convinced by the system, I read the whitepaper and the token-sale papers at the beginning of the ICO. So I bought several TFL Tokens and am now proud token holder.

The reason for the token purchase is in my case less speculative (I am not altcoin- or token-trader), but more because I want to benefit from the distributions for tokenholders. As I understand the whitepaper, 10-15% of the lottery will go to the tokenholder. I se that like a dividend on stocks.

But meanwhile, many new information is circulating and I am something confused... I'm reading about a lottery for tokenholders (why not? I am happy to receive a lottery as a free gift). However, this does not replace the promise of the 10-15% to the tokenholders, and I am really expecting and want to receive tokens or coins for the 10-15%, and not just lottery tickets. I mean; please do not exchange the dividends with lotteries!

I also read that the 10-15% dividends are paid out every few months.

I would like to have more transparency and some explanations on this topic, if one of the team members can find the time to explain this in a few words for us, the next days here in this forum?

Best regards
M


yes, these are my worries too, that they will exchange all the revenues for these free tickets only for token holders;
this would be the same as stealing our revenues and they keep the revenues...

and we get 1 or more free ticket(s) each month for a closed drawn only for token holders; well then true flip you may put your free tickets in this place where the sun never shines and give me my daily revenues, ok

I asked about this and they replied end September they have a plan with rules; they are developing at this point as we speak so to say
but yes i feel your concerns.. we get a free ticket(s) while they will keep all the revenues for themselves
and come up with a socalled political correct statement.
It will be ice cold reptillian clever and it will be the same as stealing our earned money because a free ticket we will be paying with our revenues in 2 days time period.
And the rest of the month (daily revenues) should be our own money not theirs.. but lets wait and see with what they come up... nothing else we can do

They should have stated this in the very first state not after the ico, it is very misleading..:

TFL’s provide their holders with the following opportunities:
o 10-15% of daily ticket revenues participate in a regular closed draw only for token holders;

and then this: the 10-15% dividends are paid out every few months.

personally i think it will be not in our good interests but theirs only. Why? Because every token holder will "get it" so when these tokens are out on exchanges and someone buys 1 token he/she will get the revenue too... but it will be a free ticket LOL... but what do I know. Revenues ARE NOT TICKETS TRUE FLIP

You will only be able to gain some profit by selling them at a higher price on an exchange.. no revenues for you but for them no matter how sugar coated they implied it at first.. also they wrote that the tokens are not shares (dividends) so here you go.. they will use this to explain their plan, you'll see.  Nothing exclusive about having True flip tokens... The more tokens you have, the more revenue you will get -> the more free tickets you will receive hahahaha what a complete bullshit hahahaha sorry i took the bait glad i only bought a few.
Anyways it's always the same sh*t with these kind of people, nothing is as it seems right?  I just can't be bothered with it really, i'll wait and see and sell them tokens and get it over with, when my thoughts are found right,, see ya

Hello!

Thanks a lot for your emotions and concerns.

Nothing changes.
The lottery for tokenholders was announced before ICO started. It is small bonus from us to tokenholders.

You concerns with revenues are understandable. But lets realise the situation. TrueFlip is working busyness. There are different rules about "dividends" in different countries.
The regular lotteries for tokenholders with award for everyone is the way to give to the tokenholders their revenues.

We want to make TrueFlip great and transparent project. Please remember that making things are usually take more time than talking about them.
And in the theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in the practice it is.


Best regards,
TrueFlip.io

[Isaaq.Almaguer]

Hello!

Thanks a lot for your emotions and concerns.

Nothing changes.
The lottery for tokenholders was announced before ICO started. It is small bonus from us to tokenholders.

You concerns with revenues are understandable. But lets realise the situation. TrueFlip is working busyness. There are different rules about "dividends" in different countries.
The regular lotteries for tokenholders with award for everyone is the way to give to the tokenholders their revenues.

We want to make TrueFlip great and transparent project. Please remember that making things are usually take more time than talking about them.
And in the theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in the practice it is.


Best regards,
TrueFlip.io

I'm glad to see this change actually, it demonstrates the savviness of the trueflip team in the legal business. I've more trust in this project now. keep it up guys!

[Romualdinho]

TrueFlip should be listed on exchanges this week, right ?

I don't think it will be listed on Bittrex due to dividends and US laws, but is better than nothing. 

[summonerrk]

TrueFlip should be listed on exchanges this week, right ?

I don't think it will be listed on Bittrex due to dividends and US laws, but is better than nothing. 

HitBTC already (pumped 22% at last days  )

[andrejka]

TrueFlip should be listed on exchanges this week, right ?

I don't think it will be listed on Bittrex due to dividends and US laws, but is better than nothing. 

There would be no "dividends". Read the post just above.

I'm wondering why the site is still on maintanance, it must have been launched by this time already.

[mnmnmn]

Nice to see Trueflip active on this thread again! Looking forward to seeing what happens when the tokens hit the exchanges!

[TrueFlip.io]

TrueFlip should be listed on exchanges this week, right ?

I don't think it will be listed on Bittrex due to dividends and US laws, but is better than nothing. 

There would be no "dividends". Read the post just above.

I'm wondering why the site is still on maintanance, it must have been launched by this time already.

Hello andrejka,

we are waiting for final testing.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io

[corleto]

It is not completely clear to me what happens now.
1. Does the profit sharing disappear or stay?
2. Is the lottery extra or in the place of profit sharing?
3. Do token holders need to take action to participate in the lottery? If so what?
4. When is more communication about this all planned, and in what way (email, twitter, slack, something else) will this be communicated?

Thanks a lot in advance. Good luck!

[lolgreglol]

when will you reopen the website to american markets? that is a huge cut we are taking by not allowing americans to gamble as well

[xakbel]

TrueFlip should be listed on exchanges this week, right ?

I don't think it will be listed on Bittrex due to dividends and US laws, but is better than nothing. 

HitBTC already (pumped 22% at last days  )

I cant find it can you give me link?
Also what i need to do to get my bonus TFL?

[hanifhadzar]

TrueFlip should be listed on exchanges this week, right ?

I don't think it will be listed on Bittrex due to dividends and US laws, but is better than nothing. 

HitBTC already (pumped 22% at last days  )

i see that , but for make sure the price still 30k satoshi its under ico price, ico price 1TFL = 50k satoshi .
i think we can see another pump in the next week *hope so

[TrueFlip.io]

It is not completely clear to me what happens now.
1. Does the profit sharing disappear or stay?
2. Is the lottery extra or in the place of profit sharing?
3. Do token holders need to take action to participate in the lottery? If so what?
4. When is more communication about this all planned, and in what way (email, twitter, slack, something else) will this be communicated?

Thanks a lot in advance. Good luck!

Hello corleto,

thank you for asking.

1. Profit sharing stays. It's changed form and name but the meaning is the same.
2. There will be extra lottery for tokenholders and there will be some kind of lottery for profit sharing. The difference is in quantity of winners as you may imagine:)
3. All instructions will come to tokenholders as soon as they will be defind.
4. Communication about instructions and conditions will come with all channels - email, slack, telegram and here.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io