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December 15, 2017, 05:48:31 AM
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TrueFlip [TFL] is listed new exchange Yobit https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/940601288479436800

this is a good new to all of us. this might add volume to the TFL right now. but i really do hope that some more good and big exchange TFL will be listed. i just dont like yobit cause it has no customer's support incase you encounter problem/

Investors convinced by TFL not only with its price will up. they are confident with what had been planned by TFL team. That Token TFL would got a percentage of ticket sales. And the good news too for the bounty hunter can get also percentage profit/sales ticket if they send the tokens that they get from the bounty to his website.

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December 15, 2017, 09:12:47 AM
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TrueFlip [TFL] is listed new exchange Yobit https://twitter.com/YobitExchange/status/940601288479436800

this is a good new to all of us. this might add volume to the TFL right now. but i really do hope that some more good and big exchange TFL will be listed. i just dont like yobit cause it has no customer's support incase you encounter problem/

Investors convinced by TFL not only with its price will up. they are confident with what had been planned by TFL team. That Token TFL would got a percentage of ticket sales. And the good news too for the bounty hunter can get also percentage profit/sales ticket if they send the tokens that they get from the bounty to his website.

Are the bounty tokens allowed to be part of the lottery? as I remember earlier it was not supposed to be part of the game and now rules have changed for it?


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December 15, 2017, 11:33:26 AM
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What happens with trueflip instead on the web and now it is impossible to enter the investor's part or withdraw the tokens. How long will it take to solve the problem?
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December 16, 2017, 02:13:08 PM
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What happens with trueflip instead on the web and now it is impossible to enter the investor's part or withdraw the tokens. How long will it take to solve the problem?

The interface is new and is being improved.
We might still change a few things

Best regards,
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December 16, 2017, 02:18:01 PM
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when the new exchanges? Like binance or similar
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December 16, 2017, 02:21:57 PM
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we need more marketing plan. only have 200-300 user each day. That is not enough in my opinion for this project.  around 5000-10000 user buy ticket per day.

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December 16, 2017, 05:45:31 PM
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What happens with trueflip instead on the web and now it is impossible to enter the investor's part or withdraw the tokens. How long will it take to solve the problem?

The interface is new and is being improved.
We might still change a few things

Best regards,
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Thanks for the reply but what I want to know is if my tokens are safe? Because before I could see them and now I can not.
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December 16, 2017, 11:01:52 PM
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when the new exchanges? Like binance or similar

No project is allowed to share dates and names before they are added, that includes us, it is in the exchanges terms of use, but we are looking forward to share more news.

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December 16, 2017, 11:03:32 PM
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we need more marketing plan. only have 200-300 user each day. That is not enough in my opinion for this project.  around 5000-10000 user buy ticket per day.

Yes, a marketing plan is being developed, but first it is needed to do a study of what audience and where it will be more effective per dollar. While some companies just do throw money into advertising we want to be efficient into getting the most users per dollar.

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December 16, 2017, 11:04:26 PM
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What happens with trueflip instead on the web and now it is impossible to enter the investor's part or withdraw the tokens. How long will it take to solve the problem?

The interface is new and is being improved.
We might still change a few things

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io


Thanks for the reply but what I want to know is if my tokens are safe? Because before I could see them and now I can not.

Yes, they are, do not worry

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December 17, 2017, 11:13:13 AM
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I really don't understand why you keep ignoring my question regarding the massive security risk? How exactly are those funds kept that you ask users to deposit via your website?

The developers do have layers of protection, though we can not describe them for security reasons, we make sure that only you can withdraw or transfer and not even us can touch those tokens.

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Hm good to know, but only to a certain degree because why would it be necessary for you to keep that to yourself if no even you can't touch those tokens? How would anyone else be able to do so if it's not possible for you?

Alright I accept that you are not willing to deal with my question. I for my part learned that people avoiding questions usually don't have proper answers Wink

Our security system is enough secured to protect your funds and tokens. We recommend everyone to protect their accounts with secure passwords and 2FA. But as for your initial question, we don't persuade people to store all their funds on our website.

But you incentivize them to do it. Can't you manage your lotteries (or for whatever people have to store their funds on your website) via a wonderfully secure smart contract?

This is a kind of question that is more technical and developer centered.
But we do manage our balances with exchange level security. The same reason why exchanges don't manage their funds with smart contracts is the reason why we use our layers of protection just like them. Smart contracts also have points of failure and different from other software they can not be changed, check recently smart contract errors that lead to millions in losses on another company.

Best regards,
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I was really excited about the huge jackpot, but the problem is though that I've spoken to a lot of lottery players and very few, <10% imo, want to play because they don't believe an Eastern Europe start-up will payout an $8 million jackpot.

So it's good you haven't spent too much on marketing because I think you will find such a small % would trust you to payout so it's not worth spending the money.

If you look at the big value players like FUN ($200 million valuation) It's all ZERO third party trust. The game is verified by the blockchain & a smart contract pays out the winnings.

Before you waste any money on marketing, do some market research and I believe you will find a $1 million jackpot controlled by a Smart Contract will be 100x more popular than an $8 million jackpot that requires you to trust a third party to pay out.

I understand the issues with smart contracts but for as long as all the jackpot/s are centrally controlled the valuation of TFL and the player base will be severely limited.

(Investors will like it too, if the Smart Contract automatically sends X% to TFL, a % to an investor fund and the remaining amount to the smart contract jackpot whenever a ticket is purchased.)

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December 17, 2017, 01:01:30 PM
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will you take part in any recent meetup?
where and when can i talk with founders?

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Where is "My token holder profile"? Can't find it in this new interface. And when willl the first "dividends" be paid out?

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TrueFlip like the trend of the ECG, however, I hope to experience a more exciting trend, ups and downs more interesting

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December 18, 2017, 05:41:11 AM
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I really don't understand why you keep ignoring my question regarding the massive security risk? How exactly are those funds kept that you ask users to deposit via your website?

The developers do have layers of protection, though we can not describe them for security reasons, we make sure that only you can withdraw or transfer and not even us can touch those tokens.

Best Regards,
TrueFlip.io


Hm good to know, but only to a certain degree because why would it be necessary for you to keep that to yourself if no even you can't touch those tokens? How would anyone else be able to do so if it's not possible for you?

Alright I accept that you are not willing to deal with my question. I for my part learned that people avoiding questions usually don't have proper answers Wink

Our security system is enough secured to protect your funds and tokens. We recommend everyone to protect their accounts with secure passwords and 2FA. But as for your initial question, we don't persuade people to store all their funds on our website.

But you incentivize them to do it. Can't you manage your lotteries (or for whatever people have to store their funds on your website) via a wonderfully secure smart contract?

This is a kind of question that is more technical and developer centered.
But we do manage our balances with exchange level security. The same reason why exchanges don't manage their funds with smart contracts is the reason why we use our layers of protection just like them. Smart contracts also have points of failure and different from other software they can not be changed, check recently smart contract errors that lead to millions in losses on another company.

Best regards,
TrueFlip.io



I was really excited about the huge jackpot, but the problem is though that I've spoken to a lot of lottery players and very few, <10% imo, want to play because they don't believe an Eastern Europe start-up will payout an $8 million jackpot.

So it's good you haven't spent too much on marketing because I think you will find such a small % would trust you to payout so it's not worth spending the money.

If you look at the big value players like FUN ($200 million valuation) It's all ZERO third party trust. The game is verified by the blockchain & a smart contract pays out the winnings.

Before you waste any money on marketing, do some market research and I believe you will find a $1 million jackpot controlled by a Smart Contract will be 100x more popular than an $8 million jackpot that requires you to trust a third party to pay out.

I understand the issues with smart contracts but for as long as all the jackpot/s are centrally controlled the valuation of TFL and the player base will be severely limited.

(Investors will like it too, if the Smart Contract automatically sends X% to TFL, a % to an investor fund and the remaining amount to the smart contract jackpot whenever a ticket is purchased.)



That is exactly why we are not (yet) burning money on advertising like some users want.
Thank you for adding your opinion to the discussion.

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December 18, 2017, 09:25:40 AM
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Where is "My token holder profile"? Can't find it in this new interface. And when willl the first "dividends" be paid out?

They are working on the page improvement and have disabled it, check few posts above and you will find more details on this.There is no dividend distribution with TFL, where did you hear this from?


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Please, Trueflip, answer my question!

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Where is "My token holder profile"? Can't find it in this new interface. And when willl the first "dividends" be paid out?

They are working on the page improvement and have disabled it, check few posts above and you will find more details on this.There is no dividend distribution with TFL, where did you hear this from?

Yes for sure there is a dividend distribution with TFL  Roll Eyes
4 times a year it should be paid!!!!  Undecided
1 time per quarter.... :/ ive never got any dividends, i have parked mine tokens on investors profile....
This was at beginning the only thing why you had bought tfl tokens....
Its not because the guys are from eastern Europe that no one belives in TFL
Peoples from Eastern Europe are great developner!!!
They should only work with smart contracts like the guy wrote some posts befor mine...
Should be no problem on eth network then it also could be anonymous without log in.....
Much more people would play if it would be really anonym...
Nobody belives in this lottery because they make mistakes, break promisses, issues during ico, give for very long time no updates and feedbacks...
The communication is very rare with the team...
You cant play lotto with tfl tokens.... trueflip tfl tokens are useless!
The new site is confusing and looks cheap :/
bye bye trueflip i leave the boat after 6 months waiting for some development!
sorry for spelling mistakes
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Why are you so aggresive?

There is a lot of communication from team.
There are only a 20-30 seconds until answer in telegram chat for example.

Dividends causes legal problem, but team found solution!
So we all will receive first payout till the end of this year!

Russia is NOT eastern europe.

New site is amazing and looks pretty good.

Tickets for TFL wiil be till 30 december - that promises were.

Wait. And don't cry like a child.


Where is "My token holder profile"? Can't find it in this new interface. And when willl the first "dividends" be paid out?

They are working on the page improvement and have disabled it, check few posts above and you will find more details on this.There is no dividend distribution with TFL, where did you hear this from?

Yes for sure there is a dividend distribution with TFL  Roll Eyes
4 times a year it should be paid!!!!  Undecided
1 time per quarter.... :/ ive never got any dividends, i have parked mine tokens on investors profile....
This was at beginning the only thing why you had bought tfl tokens....
Its not because the guys are from eastern Europe that no one belives in TFL
Peoples from Eastern Europe are great developner!!!
They should only work with smart contracts like the guy wrote some posts befor mine...
Should be no problem on eth network then it also could be anonymous without log in.....
Much more people would play if it would be really anonym...
Nobody belives in this lottery because they make mistakes, break promisses, issues during ico, give for very long time no updates and feedbacks...
The communication is very rare with the team...
You cant play lotto with tfl tokens.... trueflip tfl tokens are useless!
The new site is confusing and looks cheap :/
bye bye trueflip i leave the boat after 6 months waiting for some development!
sorry for spelling mistakes

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December 18, 2017, 09:40:32 PM
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please, can someone post the telegram group link (that SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!).

tks
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