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May 04, 2013, 05:10:49 PM |
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Who is the dev of BitBar?
they want to stay anonymous
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Passion_ltc
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May 04, 2013, 05:11:30 PM |
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Who is the dev of BitBar?
they want to stay anonymous So still unknown. But are they active, well-known and good developers?
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mr_random
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May 04, 2013, 05:23:39 PM |
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Well, now it is easier to fully understand the extent of the scam: 1. 60 blocks excluding the genesis block were premined 2. Difficulty for the first 735 blocks was so low that it can't even be shown on the explorer 3. For the premine part, 59.644201 BTB were generated in less than 4 minutes 4. For the difficulty under 0.001 part, 600.324139 BTB were created in little more than 20 minutes http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/chain/BitBar?hi=736&count=737I though you dreamwatcher actualy care for the existing cryptocoins but now I see you are no better than most people around here. No respect for you anymore, bye! Please stop trolling this thread. 3 million feathercoins were created on the first day, a good chunk of that in the first hour or so. And the difficulty of Feathercoin was just as low. Thank you Dreamwatcher.
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dreamwatcher
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May 04, 2013, 05:31:48 PM |
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Well, now it is easier to fully understand the extent of the scam: 1. 60 blocks after the genesis block were premined 2. Difficulty for the first 735 blocks was so low that it can't even be shown on the explorer 3. For the premine period, 59.644201 BTB were generated in little less than 4 minutes 4. For the difficulty under 0.001 period, 600.324139 BTB were created in little more than 20 minutes http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/chain/BitBar?hi=736&count=737All fine there, right? I though you dreamwatcher actualy care for the existing cryptocoins but now I see you are no better than most people around here. No respect for you anymore, bye! Ok, if that is how you feel. I always thought that more information and transparency was a positive to the community. CCE is for the most part a financial loss. I develop it because I believe in free market alt-coins and want to help give everybody the most information in making the decision about a alt-coin. I see CCE as a neutral information provider, as we have enough biased information here to fill a landfill. Anyway, I am sorry I did not live up to your expectations and wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors.
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Passion_ltc
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May 04, 2013, 05:33:42 PM |
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I will be posting here and on other scamcoin threads for as long as you people are promoting the scam. I won't leave you alone, ever, capishi?
I'm feeling sorry for you.
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ohlawd
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May 04, 2013, 07:12:14 PM |
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substrata is right about 59.644201 premine.
I'm not a developer, but I was one of the testers. I mined 60 blocks in testing few hours before launch, deleted the wrong, alpha-testing chain and joined network after the launch with higher blocks and in fact taken over first 60 blocks.
I have only 130kh miner so I was shocked for my "luck".
If I would just stay connected before launch, dev's would see my blocks and we would delete blockchains again. Its all my fault. I'm a crappy tester, sorry.
Unfortunately I sold them. I'm in the proces of buing them back [at much higher price], I will destroy them, or give it as a bounty for an exchange. Its for you to decide. Luckily for me I got some donated for this cause, so I would not be totaly broken.
BTB goes to history books not only as a first ALT to brake 1BTC price level, but also the lousiest premine ever made, premine that made me broke, not rich... I'm an idiot.
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xorxor (OP)
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May 04, 2013, 07:22:30 PM |
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I will destroy them, or give it as a bounty for an exchange. Its for you to decide.
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im definetely voting for an exchange. p.s. your fail is so stupid it's hilarious.
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fuck deeponion, fuck bitcoincash, all glory to one BITCOIN
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mr_random
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May 04, 2013, 07:24:16 PM |
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substrata is right about 59.644201 premine.
I'm not a developer, but I was one of the testers. I mined 60 blocks in testing few hours before launch, deleted the wrong, alpha-testing chain and joined network after the launch with higher blocks and in fact taken over first 60 blocks.
I have only 130kh miner so I was shocked for my "luck".
If I would just stay connected before launch, dev's would see my blocks and we would delete blockchains again. Its all my fault. I'm a crappy tester, sorry.
Unfortunately I sold them. I'm in the proces of buing them back [at much higher price], I will destroy them, or give it as a bounty for an exchange. Its for you to decide. Luckily for me I got some donated for this cause, so I would not be totaly broken.
BTB goes to history books not only as a first ALT to brake 1BTC price level, but also the lousiest premine ever made, premine that made me broke, not rich... I'm an idiot.
Give them as a bounty for the first automated exchange imo (after a month of it being out in the wild so we know it's secure) I looked at the Block Chain and it was only 5 minutes of mining before the launch... I don't think that is a big deal and chalked it up as testing. But some people are really anal about these details which is why I think a bounty donation would be great for the community
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Passion_ltc
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May 04, 2013, 07:25:40 PM |
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substrata is right about 59.644201 premine.
I'm not a developer, but I was one of the testers. I mined 60 blocks in testing few hours before launch, deleted the wrong, alpha-testing chain and joined network after the launch with higher blocks and in fact taken over first 60 blocks.
I have only 130kh miner so I was shocked for my "luck".
If I would just stay connected before launch, dev's would see my blocks and we would delete blockchains again. Its all my fault. I'm a crappy tester, sorry.
Unfortunately I sold them. I'm in the proces of buing them back [at much higher price], I will destroy them, or give it as a bounty for an exchange. Its for you to decide. Luckily for me I got some donated for this cause, so I would not be totaly broken.
BTB goes to history books not only as a first ALT to brake 1BTC price level, but also the lousiest premine ever made, premine that made me broke, not rich... I'm an idiot.
Yep. For an exchange. But for a professional one.
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May 04, 2013, 07:29:28 PM |
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substrata is right about 59.644201 premine.
I'm not a developer, but I was one of the testers. I mined 60 blocks in testing few hours before launch, deleted the wrong, alpha-testing chain and joined network after the launch with higher blocks and in fact taken over first 60 blocks.
I have only 130kh miner so I was shocked for my "luck".
If I would just stay connected before launch, dev's would see my blocks and we would delete blockchains again. Its all my fault. I'm a crappy tester, sorry.
Unfortunately I sold them. I'm in the proces of buing them back [at much higher price], I will destroy them, or give it as a bounty for an exchange. Its for you to decide. Luckily for me I got some donated for this cause, so I would not be totaly broken.
BTB goes to history books not only as a first ALT to brake 1BTC price level, but also the lousiest premine ever made, premine that made me broke, not rich... I'm an idiot.
I feel like this is just someone trolling because of missing the boat.
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ElBurro
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May 04, 2013, 07:31:56 PM |
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substrata is right about 59.644201 premine.
I'm not a developer, but I was one of the testers. I mined 60 blocks in testing few hours before launch, deleted the wrong, alpha-testing chain and joined network after the launch with higher blocks and in fact taken over first 60 blocks.
I have only 130kh miner so I was shocked for my "luck".
If I would just stay connected before launch, dev's would see my blocks and we would delete blockchains again. Its all my fault. I'm a crappy tester, sorry.
Unfortunately I sold them. I'm in the proces of buing them back [at much higher price], I will destroy them, or give it as a bounty for an exchange. Its for you to decide. Luckily for me I got some donated for this cause, so I would not be totaly broken.
BTB goes to history books not only as a first ALT to brake 1BTC price level, but also the lousiest premine ever made, premine that made me broke, not rich... I'm an idiot.
Great because of your stupidity this coin will always have the premine tag that fuels twits like substrata. Might as well chalk this one up as a lost cause and try to launch another bar without retarted testers.
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ohlawd
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May 04, 2013, 07:37:16 PM |
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Great because of your stupidity this coin will always have the premine tag that fuels twits like substrata. Might as well chalk this one up as a lost cause and try to launch another bar without retarted testers.
I deserve being called that. I know I cannot repair PR damage I made. Please choose a person to give exchange bounty for escrow.
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balu
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May 04, 2013, 07:41:18 PM |
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I still don't understand why people are complaining about the premine of this coin. Compared to the other recently released coins the 'premine' here is negligible.
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ohlawd
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May 04, 2013, 07:52:00 PM |
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I still don't understand why people are complaining about the premine of this coin. Compared to the other recently released coins the 'premine' here is negligible.
Yes, but It has to be straighten out anyway.
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May 04, 2013, 07:56:11 PM |
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Where do you find the blocks mined after the genesis block?
Or where can I see the block history?
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May 04, 2013, 08:06:17 PM Last edit: May 04, 2013, 08:25:12 PM by collapse |
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I think that ... BNu1hLYzku3Cw5GfQwEjVgF6F38L6jh1Ge => 60 BTB (Integer only, rounded) (1 person)##################### Block 119 ############################ BDGMkA9aky6DDbzXrUP6C7FnX13Yr3Xdxd => 71BTB BRJWpP3oaNGAKLCCEbUbrkQgUFteepoX94 => 82BTB BHWhNERMMyjqNgsMjjvX6dFqjoRbikyKpC => 52BTB B9EMvT7MrKCqcZvBtVrckPF6r6azMSWGgE => 275BTB BkvC5MojhFX9UVDbMhEcpS2T1WYDxHRkCP => 248BTB BCFweavyA6oRGQLRixV7ZeZggSr2iGh8bx => 257 BTB BjtranN8RvGm26eZqVCWiyFPn3jz1wsuSj =>42BTB BLjVzfoq9vBrpZMzn4LYKgT5Vh1KyD5eNd =>84BTB B9ENnvmvbRSwrwdcdFvHSeszgdYpk4xmBx=>36 BTB
Total 1147 BTB (9 persons)##################### Block 542 ############################ BFYidcbqJNxNVRmFFhHG5tZoohsVRsFy8f =>2BTB B8vs8mZkFWaAAocyAv9j8fFCqKMmbDoWat=>1BTB B7hrYGz5o2kSkKxjstN3z2SzHYZXgsrWa2 =>2BTB BHViqs6amphUspyD7oE4wW47cLYLLAvrmy=>20BTB BChrbHy6S5oYjytVrzX3eUqtYMuvx6jmZV=>27BTB B8rPx18D9oRMpb3ZzcEaC4rHRskTf4wp7Y=>8BTB BD1hqmPn1ZThE3ToLYC1vWsGPHxMXSQyoG=>2BTB BlbYfYbBkyXTWFti35x97VVGAzq6RPwKpw=>2BTB BELQPn3k5AXRAZHk7pdpUxPNBVPo3R9srd=>2BTB BALAdCqihoX9xnJCDt5zpZ7QMx7PVLCBuN =>12BTB BLUKKXsEuFGVmG3wjAfn44MwPhGyVWQGxS =>15BTB BKVJ8MzecxcLbpBfagYzrSskan6F2w3ZT5=>135BTB B5vpxGk7XQWyN1pjjjQTxMchk4AkxDmgsn=>14BTB BPeSkaMGQ8bcMKJ1mR384idj5amCkWdjXH =>18BTB
Total 260 BTB (14 persons)##################### Block 1000 ############################ Total ~1407 BTB Total money supply now 2636. Implies ~ (½) total money supply earned by 10 persons in all the time (not 4 hours, 4 hours to block 1000). And this not includes "stake power" of 5%. http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/
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Elacoin-ELC, Betacoin-BET, Neutroncoin-NTRN, Americancoin-AMC, Stronghands-SHND, Craftcoin-CRC, DOGE, BCH, BTC,..., Bitcoin,...(and a lot more) Linux updated wallets (source code) for: ELC, BET, AMC, NKT, SLING, CRC,...[if (blocknumber > 115000) maxblocksize= largerlimit] [I don't think the threshold should ever be 0. We should always allow at least some free transactions.]
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blastbob
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May 04, 2013, 08:09:13 PM |
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@collapse Sure those stats are correct? i cant see myself in it
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Bitrated user: blastbob.
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May 04, 2013, 08:10:47 PM |
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I was there after around block 200 and with my 1400 k/h I barely have any bars. this was within less than an hour of Bitbars launch my very first block I found was only worth 0.3 BTB and could only find one ever hour or two. So if people would really look at the facts BitBar is one of the only cryto currency that didn't have a pre-mine . the developers put everything out there for everyone to mine and do well . it was no secret. I think everyone is just mad because they are used to mining thousands of worthless coins and when they truly see something that is hard to mine and has value they get all grouchy. My point being is BitBars are hard to mine and they have been hard to mine from the very second the network went online. That's why BitBar is the Cryto to rule them all
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May 04, 2013, 08:13:44 PM Last edit: May 11, 2013, 06:19:59 PM by collapse |
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@collapse Sure those stats are correct? i cant se myself in it Well, the numbers are not exact,..., If someone has more time to do it more exact,..., time is money,... http://btb.cryptocoinexplorer.com/
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Elacoin-ELC, Betacoin-BET, Neutroncoin-NTRN, Americancoin-AMC, Stronghands-SHND, Craftcoin-CRC, DOGE, BCH, BTC,..., Bitcoin,...(and a lot more) Linux updated wallets (source code) for: ELC, BET, AMC, NKT, SLING, CRC,...[if (blocknumber > 115000) maxblocksize= largerlimit] [I don't think the threshold should ever be 0. We should always allow at least some free transactions.]
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May 04, 2013, 08:14:01 PM |
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Hmm this looks like FUD to me.. Collapse, Bitbar was announced at 17.30 and according to the blockchain only 5 minutes worth of mining occured prior to the announcement?
From the block explorer I see:
2013-05-02 13:56:10 to 2013-05-02 14:00:06 - Five minutes of mining
After that nothing until 17:32:
2013-05-02 17:32:10 - First block found after 17:30 announcement on the forum
Am I misunderstanding it? Please correct me if I am wrong but that looks like only 5 minutes of mining before it was publicly announced.
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