[HARDWARE][NVIDIA] Pascal GP106-100 - True Mining GPU

[Mattthev]

I don't know if somebody start whole topic for this GPU? I saw topic for the mining rig only.

Here are some links and informations.
Pros

• True mining GPU
• No video output
• Probably good cooling for 24/7
• Price? $200?
• In stock?

Cons

• 90 days warranty? This is impossible in EU for consumers so they will be sold only for companies?!
• 1060 chipset
• 192 bit memory bus?
• Low hashrates
• Almost no resale potential!

Hashrates
8x of these GPUs: 200 MH/s for ETH, 2500 Sol/s for ZEC, 4400 H/s for XMR.
That's pretty low! Mainly for XMR... 5x RX 470 can have more than these 8 GPUs...

NEW: https://videocardz.com/70254/asus-colorful-and-msi-showcase-their-mining-graphics-cards
http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/gp106-100/
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57914/gpu-mining-system-spotted-8-nvidia-gp106-gpus/index.html
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-gpu-cryptocurrency-ethereum-mining/

What do you think?

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[bathrobehero]

I think nvidia's finger is not on the pulse of GPU mining; these cards are slow/offer poor densitiy, 90-day warranty is a joke and will be likely hard to come by.

And realistically, the success of GPU mining stems from everyone having GPUs. If, in a few years cheap mining-only GPUs push regular GPUs out of the mining market then we'll have the same centralized nonsense as with ASICs.

Personally I hope this will be a flop - which so far it looks like it will - and they stop.

[adaseb]

It depends on the price. If its 2 weeks ROI then sure.

[Mattthev]

I think nvidia's finger is not on the pulse of GPU mining; these cards are slow/offer poor densitiy, 90-day warranty is a joke and will be likely hard to come by.

And realistically, the success of GPU mining stems from everyone having GPUs. If, in a few years cheap mining-only GPUs push regular GPUs out of the mining market then we'll have the same centralized nonsense as with ASICs.

Personally I hope this will be a flop - which so far it looks like it will - and they stop.

I don't want mining GPUs either...
Sadly it seems like this will be true, if this is only for really big mining companies well I can live with that. What's good that it has pretty low hashrates so almost no home miner with common sense won't invest in GPU like this.

[Vaccinus]

if that are the specs it's not worth it for me, it's slower than a 1070 and consume the same, beacuse 8 gpu consuming 1000 watt like it say on cryptoblog is not that good on ETH, i can do 100 watt 30MH

[Guvn0r]

This news started to circulate with some guy from china posting in the zcash forums followed by what I think are photoshoped pictures of Zotac 1080s and also pictures of stripped down PANGOLINMINER with 8 gpus which looks exactly the same as those pics posted on the rumor post on zcash forum.

having seen all this, I see very little chance of this news being true.

[bittick]

This news started to circulate with some guy from china posting in the zcash forums followed by what I think are photoshoped pictures of Zotac 1080s and also pictures of stripped down PANGOLINMINER with 8 gpus which looks exactly the same as those pics posted on the rumor post on zcash forum.

having seen all this, I see very little chance of this news being true.

great work! nvidia doesnt play with miners

[Guvn0r]

This news started to circulate with some guy from china posting in the zcash forums followed by what I think are photoshoped pictures of Zotac 1080s and also pictures of stripped down PANGOLINMINER with 8 gpus which looks exactly the same as those pics posted on the rumor post on zcash forum.

having seen all this, I see very little chance of this news being true.

great work! nvidia doesnt play with miners

Thanks bittick.. the 90 day warranty also doesn't seem to be right since I see many guys saying it is just illegal in Europe.

[AFox]

the 90 day warranty also doesn't seem to be right since I see many guys saying it is just illegal in Europe.

If it's not sold in Europe, they do not have to apply the European law.
If they sell them and ship them from China, they can apply whatever warranty they want. Even if the product is delivered in Europe.

[Guvn0r]

the 90 day warranty also doesn't seem to be right since I see many guys saying it is just illegal in Europe.

If it's not sold in Europe, they do not have to apply the European law.
If they sell them and ship them from China, they can apply whatever warranty they want. Even if the product is delivered in Europe.

nice point, I am trying to build nvidia based mining rigs too. I have been watching closely this news and the guy who posted on zcash forum also posted a video on youtube saying the cards will probably be released on or after june 23rd. He added "the chips will be ready by 20th June and will be on the boards by 23rd", I kinda find it hard to digest. moreover no official word also.

I am just being skeptical...

I am going ahead with 1080 Ti and not waiting for this to prove itself.

[64dimensions]

Makes no sense.

1) This card is competing against the used market. R9 380's are under $100 for about 80% of the stock ETH performance.

2) The only way something like this gets traction among miners is if this card has some miracle power consumption number.

3) Oh yeah, I can't wait to deal with the additional complication of using the onboard display adapter.

Still buying gamer cards unless 2).

[fmz89]

LOL its joke, nvidia made ton of money from gaming segment reaching 75% from gpu market, nvdia shouldnt ruined GPUMINING, cause amd is favorable from miner,
lets vega kickout this shit gpu

[Mattthev]

LOL its joke, nvidia made ton of money from gaming segment reaching 75% from gpu market, nvdia shouldnt ruined GPUMINING, cause amd is favorable from miner,
lets vega kickout this shit gpu

I don't think Vega would be good for mining. It should cost like $500 it means 2x RX 580 8GB performance...
Also HBM-1 had very bad timings and timings mean a lot in mining ETH, XRM, ZEC, maybe HBM-2 will be better... It will be probably better for mining altcoins where memory isn't that important...

[KaydenC]

My supplier quoted me $2500 USD for this. Essentially 8x $250 Gtx 1060s, with $500 in PSU/board/cpu/ram.

It's a fair price, but poor resale value and short warranty. I rather buy the GPUs myself.

[QuintLeo]

They are going to need to get the price down a fair bit under $200 if they want any real interest in such a LOW END (by mining standards) card.

 There are those rumours about a GTX 1080-based card for $350 though - THAT should sell well.

 If NVidia was paying attention though, they'd put together a 1080 GPU and GDDR 5 (NOT 5x) based card - or at least a 1070 based card - for mining.


 $2500 for the "mining system" is way too much to be competative for what it offers. $1500-$1800 would be a competative price.

[Metroid]

if this is true which i hardly think it is, it must mean, 1060 stock clearance or just another master trolling from nvidia again hehe

it was their mistake to make the 1060 192 bits. if this mining card was at least 256 bits then maybe it could be competitive.

[Mattthev]

Well yeah, I hope there will be no mining cards.
I have info about AMD mining card https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1966624.msg19556706

[konqueror]

https://www.sp-computer.ru/catalog/1452/57475/

In stock in Moscow

[Mattthev]

https://www.sp-computer.ru/catalog/1452/57475/

In stock in Moscow

Waaaaattt?!
That must be hoax, why the hell the 1060 would have GDDR5X? That's bad for mining!

[konqueror]

https://www.sp-computer.ru/catalog/1452/57475/

In stock in Moscow

Waaaaattt?!
That must be hoax, why the hell the 1060 would have GDDR5X? That's bad for mining!

There are more upcoming: https://videocardz.com/70254/asus-colorful-and-msi-showcase-their-mining-graphics-cards

[Mattthev]

There are more upcoming: https://videocardz.com/70254/asus-colorful-and-msi-showcase-their-mining-graphics-cards

It seems like it's trully happening.

[QuintLeo]

"We don’t know yet how many CUDA cores are enabled, but since P104-100 is said to be paired with GDDR5X memory it may as well be GTX 1080. These cards are said to be more efficient than normal GeForce cards in cryptocurrency mining (~30 to ~10% depending on SKU)" - which extra efficiency is easy to account for, they probably disabled a lot or all of the video-specific circuitry via the BIOS or possibly on-chip (an OLD trick, refer to the modded R9 290 BIOS series TheStilt put out for mining back in Litecoin GPU days).

 I still think the P106-100 is badly aimed, but I do want to see that P104-100 have at least SOME availability to us "small fry".
 Too bad EVGA doesn't seem to be one of the involved "partners" (yet?)....

[Mattthev]

"We don’t know yet how many CUDA cores are enabled, but since P104-100 is said to be paired with GDDR5X memory it may as well be GTX 1080. These cards are said to be more efficient than normal GeForce cards in cryptocurrency mining (~30 to ~10% depending on SKU)" - which extra efficiency is easy to account for, they probably disabled a lot or all of the video-specific circuitry via the BIOS or possibly on-chip (an OLD trick, refer to the modded R9 290 BIOS series TheStilt put out for mining back in Litecoin GPU days).

 I still think the P106-100 is badly aimed, but I do want to see that P104-100 have at least SOME availability to us "small fry".
 Too bad EVGA doesn't seem to be one of the involved "partners" (yet?)....

What altcoins are efficient to mine with GDDR5X?

[Metroid]

The p104 might be worthwhile if nvidia let users to mod the bios.

[mojoxc]

So the scoop is these gpus are real, the bad news is most of these are going to stay in China.  With no output on the gpus you have no chance at a good resale value.  The price reduction on the 1080 version might make it interesting compared to the gtx 1070 for mining.

[Mattthev]

So the scoop is these gpus are real, the bad news is most of these are going to stay in China.  With no output on the gpus you have no chance at a good resale value.  The price reduction on the 1080 version might make it interesting compared to the gtx 1070 for mining.

Well yeah. The info says only for big farms.
I'm more interested in the AMD mining one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1966624.0
They have it in Russia already.

[Metroid]

So the scoop is these gpus are real, the bad news is most of these are going to stay in China.

Likely, mostly only in China. This idea of making special gpus for mining will kill 90% of actual miners worldwide. This is asic 2.0. This is not good for the mining community. I already see price crashing everywhere. i always said this would happen if bitcoin price hit 20k rmb/cny. Remember Litecoin in 2013, asic killed ltc profitability in 2 weeks hehe, I wonder how long will take now, perhaps by next week 90% of miners worldwide are dead, imagine the huge loans they made to buy cards hoping to get rich fast hehe, it will be so much fun. If they had got the money to buy and sell coins like i do, they would have got many times their return of investment.

[Tmdz]

The Nvidia GP106-100 mining GPUs will not be available on the regular market to the regular users apparently, they are going to be sold only in large volume to big customers such as cloud mining companies like Genesis Mining and/or other big private mining operations.

I wouldn't buy a gpu like this regardless, the point of GPU mining is the safety of resale value.

But if AMD follows then the mega farms could in theory flood the network with new miners and kill profit nearly over night.  The shortage is what restricts growth and keeps our profit high for a greater amount of time.

[Metroid]

The shortage is what restricts growth and keeps our profit high for a greater amount of time.

So true, looks like you trolls can breath for now because AMD is interested only in Vega at moment hehe

[thesavoyard]

Pretty sure these cards were debunked as fake.

[Skarda]

Has anyone heard if the bios can be mod, or overclocked through ethos or window? If so, it may hit 30 mh/s

[QuintLeo]

"We don’t know yet how many CUDA cores are enabled, but since P104-100 is said to be paired with GDDR5X memory it may as well be GTX 1080. These cards are said to be more efficient than normal GeForce cards in cryptocurrency mining (~30 to ~10% depending on SKU)" - which extra efficiency is easy to account for, they probably disabled a lot or all of the video-specific circuitry via the BIOS or possibly on-chip (an OLD trick, refer to the modded R9 290 BIOS series TheStilt put out for mining back in Litecoin GPU days).

 I still think the P106-100 is badly aimed, but I do want to see that P104-100 have at least SOME availability to us "small fry".
 Too bad EVGA doesn't seem to be one of the involved "partners" (yet?)....

What altcoins are efficient to mine with GDDR5X?

 Most non-ETH altcoins are a lot less sensitive to memory latency issues than ETH and it's offshoots.

 GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti both work quite well and efficiently on ZEC, among other options.


 I doubt we are going to see much if any more hashrate out of the mining-specific cards vs their consumer varients - but dropping all the video circuitry and disabling the "video output" parts of the GPU die should result in substantial power savings, I could see 20-30% less power used at the same clocks as a result (which would be somewhat better than TheStilt managed on his "no undervolt" version of his R9 290 BIOS, but he didn't disable ALL the video capabilities and the video output stuff was still on the board).

 Pricing numbers seem to still be up in the air and conflicting - but IN THEORY these boards should be lower priced, though being smaller production numbers might limit the savings some.

 I did see mention somewhere that EVGA might be one of the "partners" after all - which gives me some hope for us "small fry" having access at a fairly reasonable price, given their direct sale policies.

[Mattthev]

Most non-ETH altcoins are a lot less sensitive to memory latency issues than ETH and it's offshoots.

 GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti both work quite well and efficiently on ZEC, among other options.


 I doubt we are going to see much if any more hashrate out of the mining-specific cards vs their consumer varients - but dropping all the video circuitry and disabling the "video output" parts of the GPU die should result in substantial power savings, I could see 20-30% less power used at the same clocks as a result (which would be somewhat better than TheStilt managed on his "no undervolt" version of his R9 290 BIOS, but he didn't disable ALL the video capabilities and the video output stuff was still on the board).

 Pricing numbers seem to still be up in the air and conflicting - but IN THEORY these boards should be lower priced, though being smaller production numbers might limit the savings some.

 I did see mention somewhere that EVGA might be one of the "partners" after all - which gives me some hope for us "small fry" having access at a fairly reasonable price, given their direct sale policies.

Yeah, I only know about ZEC. NVIDIA is pretty useless for Monero :/

[BeyondDeception]

IF and it sounds like a big IF - the GP104 can do 60 mh/s (unconfirmed and the math doesn't add up) this would be bad news for all miners. The difficulty level is already growing exponentially, because more and more miners are jumping on the network. If you take that fact combined with these cards doubling what cards do now, that makes the difficulty level shoot through the roof. I think in the next couple of months is going to get real tough. We'll still make profit, but not nearly as much.

And then once PoS happens, everyone is going to jump ship trying to recover their ROI by getting into other coins causing similar issues. Next 6 months are going to be interesting.

[thesavoyard]

This is still not confirmed by any reliable source, still need to be skeptical.

[Metroid]

IF and it sounds like a big IF - the GP104 can do 60 mh/s (unconfirmed and the math doesn't add up) this would be bad news for all miners. The difficulty level is already growing exponentially, because more and more miners are jumping on the network. If you take that fact combined with these cards doubling what cards do now, that makes the difficulty level shoot through the roof. I think in the next couple of months is going to get real tough. We'll still make profit, but not nearly as much.

And then once PoS happens, everyone is going to jump ship trying to recover their ROI by getting into other coins causing similar issues. Next 6 months are going to be interesting.

If I were to invest in mining then I would think carefully, mining is never profitable in any way, selling and buying coins is way more profitable by many thousands times, plus, new gpu's are just around the corner, volta will come in few months with a 12nm manufacture process, so meaning anything you buy right now will have to consider the competition you will be facing when these news cards come and plus the ones which will be only for mining and that is if gp104 does indeed 60mh/s on eth then imagine how much it will do on equihash, meaning anything you buy right now will be outdated and dead in few weeks, also the gp104 will only be sold for big farm s which means you will not be able to compete with them , meaning --> game over trolls hehe

The blame is on the whales, i mean, think how much eth rose past 2 months, its bullshit, people see opportunities and they take even if all are against them, if eth had not risen as much as it did then what we see right now would not be happening, nvidia would never release a mining only card and so on, meaning, average joe can could still compete cause it would be only the common gpus for gaming,  see where this thing is going? too much attention, is it bad or good, only coming months will show us. I say is bad cause the way i see, a gamer could get at least 20% of the money spent to buy its gpu by just mining when not gaming and that is good, in few weeks that will not be possible anymore. GPU mining will be closing to death to common people. GPU mining will be called GPU asic farmers association hehe

[Jamievs]

One way I am pretty excited. Another way I am sad because mining companies just buy everything at the factory just like they are doing now with the majority of the AMD's.. So we're still left with nothing

[Aquazi]

One way I am pretty excited. Another way I am sad because mining companies just buy everything at the factory just like they are doing now with the majority of the AMD's.. So we're still left with nothing

Any source for this?

It's very unlikely that they buy gpus at the fabric.

As multiple industry representatives stated (a Sapphire PR guy did, can't find the link) they aren't against mining per se, but the gpu shortage is very harmful for their business and marketshare.

Especially since they are AMD exclusive.

Even tho they are happy for selling all cards, their brand loses lots of recognition among gamers.

Maybe they can get their hands on hundreds/thousands of cards at distributors level, but there's no chance in hell that any of these companies are selling GPUs directly to miners, that would literally infuriate and piss all their distributors that have nothing to sell and would dump them for other brands.

Then, mining craze is gone, and they sold 50-100k gpu to those farms you claim, and distributors don't support them anymore their brand and customers now are more likely to buy from other brands as well (some they know and liked from their previous card).

[Jamievs]

One way I am pretty excited. Another way I am sad because mining companies just buy everything at the factory just like they are doing now with the majority of the AMD's.. So we're still left with nothing

Any source for this?

It's very unlikely that they buy gpus at the fabric.

As multiple industry representatives stated (a Sapphire PR guy did, can't find the link) they aren't against mining per se, but the gpu shortage is very harmful for their business and marketshare.

Especially since they are AMD exclusive.

Even tho they are happy for selling all cards, their brand loses lots of recognition among gamers.

Maybe they can get their hands on hundreds/thousands of cards at distributors level, but there's no chance in hell that any of these companies are selling GPUs directly to miners, that would literally infuriate and piss all their distributors that have nothing to sell and would dump them for other brands.

Then, mining craze is gone, and they sold 50-100k gpu to those farms you claim, and distributors don't support them anymore their brand and customers now are more likely to buy from other brands as well (some they know and liked from their previous card).

I certainly hope you're right

[thesavoyard]

One way I am pretty excited. Another way I am sad because mining companies just buy everything at the factory just like they are doing now with the majority of the AMD's.. So we're still left with nothing

Any source for this?

It's very unlikely that they buy gpus at the fabric.

As multiple industry representatives stated (a Sapphire PR guy did, can't find the link) they aren't against mining per se, but the gpu shortage is very harmful for their business and marketshare.

Especially since they are AMD exclusive.

Even tho they are happy for selling all cards, their brand loses lots of recognition among gamers.

Maybe they can get their hands on hundreds/thousands of cards at distributors level, but there's no chance in hell that any of these companies are selling GPUs directly to miners, that would literally infuriate and piss all their distributors that have nothing to sell and would dump them for other brands.

Then, mining craze is gone, and they sold 50-100k gpu to those farms you claim, and distributors don't support them anymore their brand and customers now are more likely to buy from other brands as well (some they know and liked from their previous card).

AMDs only make up 16% of the GPU market, they are much easier to sell out because they don't have near the production of Nvidia.

[Guvn0r]

How come there isnt a single news from official sources? even though so close to release.. like some say 1-2 weeks?

[Mattthev]

How come there isnt a single news from official sources? even though so close to release.. like some say 1-2 weeks?

I still hope for a hoax but lot of shops start listing it.

[Guvn0r]

How come there isnt a single news from official sources? even though so close to release.. like some say 1-2 weeks?

I still hope for a hoax but lot of shops start listing it.

True, my supplier also confirmed availability of these cards, did not confirm price though. But, I am very skeptical about these cards for the reason that there isn't a single word from NVIDIA.
I am not sure if it is even possible, but may be they can make cards using cheaper version of laptop gpus? and then sell them as mining cards?

Since I don't see any solid news and stuff from manufacturers or official sources, I see a strong chance of these being fake. I wouldn't buy these even if cheap or unless NVIDIA release some kind of news or advertisement.

[QuintLeo]

Most non-ETH altcoins are a lot less sensitive to memory latency issues than ETH and it's offshoots.

 GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti both work quite well and efficiently on ZEC, among other options.


 I doubt we are going to see much if any more hashrate out of the mining-specific cards vs their consumer varients - but dropping all the video circuitry and disabling the "video output" parts of the GPU die should result in substantial power savings, I could see 20-30% less power used at the same clocks as a result (which would be somewhat better than TheStilt managed on his "no undervolt" version of his R9 290 BIOS, but he didn't disable ALL the video capabilities and the video output stuff was still on the board).

 Pricing numbers seem to still be up in the air and conflicting - but IN THEORY these boards should be lower priced, though being smaller production numbers might limit the savings some.

 I did see mention somewhere that EVGA might be one of the "partners" after all - which gives me some hope for us "small fry" having access at a fairly reasonable price, given their direct sale policies.

Yeah, I only know about ZEC. NVIDIA is pretty useless for Monero :/

 Not true. GTX 750ti is STILL one of the most efficient Monero mining options, and some of the other NVidia cards are pretty efficient at it as well.

 With that said, though, XMR isn't a good NVidia mining choice except for the 750ti and POSSIBLY some of the LOW-end 9xx/10xx series.

[QuintLeo]

If I were to invest in mining then I would think carefully, mining is never profitable in any way

 *looks at my profits from the last year of mining, ROFLMAO*

 If mining is never profitable, explain how bigger miner companies like MegaBigPower (aka GigaWatt) stay in business and keep growing their mining operations.

 Mining RIGHT NOW is more profitable on GPU-mineable coins than it has EVER been - and I made quite a bit back in the Litecoin mining craze, enough to buy several of my current GPUs out of the profits.



 There seems to be some confusion though - the "mining system" appears to be based on a mobile or modified mobile version of the NVidia 1060 (similar to the mobile AMD cards the PandaMiner uses), that is NOT the "P106-100".

 The P106-100 (and P104-100) are supposed to be stand-alone standard GPUs except for having no video output (similar to some WORKSTATION GPUs like the long-running AMD Firepro-S series).

[Mattthev]

Not true. GTX 750ti is STILL one of the most efficient Monero mining options, and some of the other NVidia cards are pretty efficient at it as well.

 With that said, though, XMR isn't a good NVidia mining choice except for the 750ti and POSSIBLY some of the LOW-end 9xx/10xx series.

I don't have 750ti, but http://monerobenchmarks.info/ says 280H/s. I can have 269H/s with my laptop GPU GTX 860m That thing has 45W TDP or so... Using XMR-STAK-NVIDIA.

[thesavoyard]

How come there isnt a single news from official sources? even though so close to release.. like some say 1-2 weeks?

I still hope for a hoax but lot of shops start listing it.

Please link one because not only are the pics inconsistent (some have fans while release info said no fans) there are 0 credible news sources on this. Also, Google can't find anyone selling it, do I need Tor and DuckDuckGo?

[Vaccinus]

One way I am pretty excited. Another way I am sad because mining companies just buy everything at the factory just like they are doing now with the majority of the AMD's.. So we're still left with nothing

you can't buy this anyway in some country because of the limited warranty, good luck getting vendors to sell product with onyl 3 years warranty, the minimum is 2 years, it's illegal to sell for less

[Mattthev]

Please link one because not only are the pics inconsistent (some have fans while release info said no fans) there are 0 credible news sources on this. Also, Google can't find anyone selling it, do I need Tor and DuckDuckGo?

With 2 years warranty.
https://www.alza.cz/mining-gtx-1060-6gb-d5004892.htm

[thesavoyard]

Please link one because not only are the pics inconsistent (some have fans while release info said no fans) there are 0 credible news sources on this. Also, Google can't find anyone selling it, do I need Tor and DuckDuckGo?

With 2 years warranty.
https://www.alza.cz/mining-gtx-1060-6gb-d5004892.htm

Seems to be legit, people have been ordering from them. I'm not sure if I need to be happy or disappointed.

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.alza.co.uk

[Mattthev]

Seems to be legit, people have been ordering from them. I'm not sure if I need to be happy or disappointed.

https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.alza.co.uk

I think it is the biggest shop here in CZ So the shop is legit They are now even selling Tesla cars
I don't like cards like that. One of my customer has AMD RX 470 Mining GPU, I've mod bios for that card, the hashrates is almost same as on other RX 470, it has only Samsung memory so that's pretty cool. But still I don't want it

[Guvn0r]

is it just me or this card look fishy ? I mean, this just doesn't look "MSI" or "ASUS" or "Colorful" to me man..

[NetopyrMan]

Please link one because not only are the pics inconsistent (some have fans while release info said no fans) there are 0 credible news sources on this. Also, Google can't find anyone selling it, do I need Tor and DuckDuckGo?

With 2 years warranty.
https://www.alza.cz/mining-gtx-1060-6gb-d5004892.htm

alza stops selling this cards .... useless gpu anyway

[Mattthev]

alza stops selling this cards .... useless gpu anyway

Right Yes! Hoax card!!!

[QuintLeo]

Not true. GTX 750ti is STILL one of the most efficient Monero mining options, and some of the other NVidia cards are pretty efficient at it as well.

 With that said, though, XMR isn't a good NVidia mining choice except for the 750ti and POSSIBLY some of the LOW-end 9xx/10xx series.

I don't have 750ti, but http://monerobenchmarks.info/ says 280H/s. I can have 269H/s with my laptop GPU GTX 860m That thing has 45W TDP or so... Using XMR-STAK-NVIDIA.

 Which is about the same to a little MORE power than the 750 ti needs.


 So many options for making good money with GPUs the last year and change, then the price rises hit over the last couple months and change.... 8-)

[cryptomined]

is it just me or this card look fishy ? I mean, this just doesn't look "MSI" or "ASUS" or "Colorful" to me man..

why are you reuploading my photo after removing the watermark?
why are you bashing the colorful card and doubting me?  I have always been honest.  why didnt you show people the galaxy or asus cards???
Why you calling me "some guy from china" when clearly the name is cryptomined???

This is the original thread where I broke the news FIRST! YEAH FIRST!!!!  THAT MEANS BEFORE ANYONE ON THIS ENTIRE FORUM... BEFORE ANYONE ELSE ON THE INTERNET!!! Shows you something!!!

https://forum.z.cash/t/nvidia-to-release-mining-only-gpus-soon/16257/68

These are the photos I recently uploaded:

[thesavoyard]

is it just me or this card look fishy ? I mean, this just doesn't look "MSI" or "ASUS" or "Colorful" to me man..

buddy, what is your problem with censoring my watermark?!?!?!?  
why are you reuploading my photo after removing the watermark?  what kind of low life are you?
why are you bashing the colorful card and doubting me?  I have always been honest.  why didnt you show people the galaxy or asus cards???
Why you calling me "some guy from china" when clearly the name is CRYPTOMINED???

WTF

This is the original thread where I broke the news FIRST! YEAH FIRST!!!!  THAT MEANS BEFORE ANYONE ON THIS ENTIRE FORUM!!! Shows you something!!!

And it is because of people like you, that whenever i do get news before anyone else, I will be posting on the zcash forum and not here. so if someone finds my news and re-reports it here, FFS, I would appreciate the reference!!!!

https://forum.z.cash/t/nvidia-to-release-mining-only-gpus-soon/16257/68

These are the photos I recently uploaded:

You may have broken it here on this forum first, but word is this is a hoax from some guy from Chine. I've yet to see convincing evidence this is real/ The retailers that list it do not say they will sell it.

[cryptomined]

You may have broken it here on this forum first, but word is this is a hoax from some guy from Chine. I've yet to see convincing evidence this is real/ The retailers that list it do not say they will sell it.

I broke it FIRST ON THE ENTIRE INTERNET!!!

"some guy from china" he was referring to me.. and im not from china, i just live here

Oh they are real, I have already ordered 12 MSI and 12 Galaxy

when i say NVidia is coming out with dedicated mining cards, gp106... im not screwing around

[thesavoyard]

You may have broken it here on this forum first, but word is this is a hoax from some guy from Chine. I've yet to see convincing evidence this is real/ The retailers that list it do not say they will sell it.

I broke it FIRST ON THE ENTIRE INTERNET!!!

"some guy from china" he was referring to me.. and im not from china, i just live here

Oh they are real, I have already ordered 12 MSI and 12 Galaxy

when i say NVidia is coming out with dedicated mining cards, gp106... im not screwing around

im not some low life on here spreading rumors

Guvn0r is a dickhead and he shoulod have given me credit instead of stealing my photos!!!!!

Well please tell me how I can get my hands on 70 gp104-100

[szafa]

Someone buy this gpu and testing how much hash in lbry?

[cryptomined]

Someone buy this gpu and testing how much hash in lbry?

already bought some, but sadly i dont think they do as good as was first reported, might not be much better than a 1060 6g afterall

[thesavoyard]

Someone buy this gpu and testing how much hash in lbry?

already bought some, but sadly i dont think they do as good as was first reported, might not be much better than a 1060 6g afterall

Please link a seller, this is more than suspicious. You bought a GPU that isn't being sold anywhere?

[cryptomined]

Someone buy this gpu and testing how much hash in lbry?

already bought some, but sadly i dont think they do as good as was first reported, might not be much better than a 1060 6g afterall

Please link a seller, this is more than suspicious. You bought a GPU that isn't being sold anywhere?

I dont know of sellers outside of china.  and I will not be reporting here on them as mentioned above... you want more details from me, ask me on the zcash forums or watch my video after I get them...

just wait until i have them in hand and test them... then all the doubters can stuff it

anyone doubting these cards existence are really going to look like retards really really soon  

[ckai93]

what a joke
so much for the "mining card"
it costs the same as a normal 1060

the only thing it does is:
OC out of the box (only some brands)

it hashes the same as any 1060 gpu lol
source: a china mining chat group

some does say that there are some savings from the electricity tho

[cryptomined]

what a joke
so much for the "mining card"
it costs the same as a normal 1060

the only thing it does is:
OC out of the box (only some brands)

it hashes the same as any 1060 gpu lol

yes i think if its no better, and the prices are being marked up so drastically its a bit of a joke
the only positive is they cost a bit less than a 1060 6g here, but 1060 6g prices have become as insane as rx580 prices here so...

[thesavoyard]

Google, its 2017 and its still your friend lol.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/PANTO-ZRTK-21613-bitcoin-mining-device_60662010911.html

Who knows what sort of hybrid Chinese madness this is, but there it is. I have never bought anything off Alibaba and do not plan to start today.

It is a pretty slick looking little setup.

From the site with the most scams on the internet...

[cryptomined]

From the site with the most scams on the internet...

you don't have to bash bitcointalk LOL
joking? hmm maybe not... if there is a site that would compete with ali for scammers,,.. its probably here with people trying to scam others out of crypto

[cryptomined]

From the site with the most scams on the internet...

you don't have to bash bitcointalk LOL
joking? hmm maybe not... if there is a site that would compete with ali for scammers,,.. its probably here with people trying to scam others out of crypto

I think he meant Ali is the scam capitol of the internet and I would be inclined to agree with him.

Found something similar from a closed thread here as well.

https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/12700/200mh-s-eth-miner-from-china

well i was kinda joking
but bitcointalk has a lot of scammers too

anyways, i have to get back to work, i have rig frames to put together, package and ship out.

I will try to update here with photos of the MSI once i get them in hand... Was going to order galaxy today, but when i learned the hashrate was not as high as first rumored I have decided to wait for my gigabyte preorder to come in to decide if i want more (preorderded 30 gigabyte cards, pricing not final yet from supplier)  (and just to be clear, the fact I stated gp106 dedicated mining card would come out was 100% known to me for weeks before I reported it... that and the fact it had no outputs ... what was rumor was the fans and the price.)

and after that the rumors multiplied when others gave their uneducated opinions thinking they were the facts... regardless of what I had said... ignoring what I had said and living in their own bubble world..

[Guvn0r]

You may have broken it here on this forum first, but word is this is a hoax from some guy from Chine. I've yet to see convincing evidence this is real/ The retailers that list it do not say they will sell it.

I broke it FIRST ON THE ENTIRE INTERNET!!!

"some guy from china" he was referring to me.. and im not from china, i just live here

Oh they are real, I have already ordered 12 MSI and 12 Galaxy

when i say NVidia is coming out with dedicated mining cards, gp106... im not screwing around

im not some low life on here spreading rumors

Guvn0r is a dickhead and he shoulod have given me credit instead of stealing my photos!!!!!

I apologize for being a dickhead. I removed your watermark only because I never was sure if these cards were authentic or not, so If anyway these turned out to be fake or something I never wanted my post to look like it said "Cryptomined sells these stuff" or that you are involved in this. I know you run an online store, I watch your videos in youtube also.

So technically I took your pictures without permission and removed watermark - yes, but in my mind, I was only being careful man.

[cryptomined]

I apologize for being a dickhead. I removed your watermark only because I never was sure if these cards were authentic or not, so If anyway these turned out to be fake or something I never wanted my post to look like it said "Cryptomined sells these stuff" or that you are involved in this. I know you run an online store, I watch your videos in youtube also.

So technically I took your pictures without permission and removed watermark - yes, but in my mind, I was only being careful man.

ok thanks apology accepted.  What got me the most was "some guy from china on the zcash forums" actually... then I saw the photo and I was really wound up... I do not officially sell the cards and wont be getting any for people I dont already know well.
in the future, if you post a photo that comes from me, please leave the watermark on them.  I wont be necessarily selling or endorsing the item, but if I post it, its not a rumor and it is real.  just paste the link, give credit and please don't remove the watermarks.. I put them on for a reason... so people know who it came from when they see it.

[Guvn0r]

I apologize for being a dickhead. I removed your watermark only because I never was sure if these cards were authentic or not, so If anyway these turned out to be fake or something I never wanted my post to look like it said "Cryptomined sells these stuff" or that you are involved in this. I know you run an online store, I watch your videos in youtube also.

So technically I took your pictures without permission and removed watermark - yes, but in my mind, I was only being careful man.

ok thanks apology accepted.  What got me the most was "some guy from china on the zcash forums" actually... then I saw the photo and I was really wound up... I do not officially sell the cards and wont be getting any for people I dont already know well.
in the future, if you post a photo that comes from me, please leave the watermark on them.  I wont be necessarily selling or endorsing the item, but if I post it, its not a rumor and it is real.  just paste the link, give credit and please don't remove the watermarks.. I put them on for a reason... so people know who it came from when they see it.

Thanks for understanding...

I am also watching this news because I m trying to build a few rigs myself. So the paranoia is natural because there is lot of money involved. Right now, I decide to wait till July first week or first 10 days or till there is a solid opinion about these mining cards or else I will have to go for some other expensive options.

[Guvn0r]

  looks like all the allegations I made against these cards are false, just got a call from my supplier asking me if  I want to cut a deal with him for Inno3D variant of mining gpus.
I ll be buying a lot of them. He said price is close to normal 1060 but hash rate is more. around 30-35 in ethash.

[Vaccinus]

looks like all the allegations I made against these cards are false, just got a call from my supplier asking me if  I want to cut a deal with him for Inno3D variant of mining gpus.
I ll be buying a lot of them. He said price is close to normal 1060 but hash rate is more. around 30-35 in ethash.

35 MH? are you seirous that si very good, if true, but other are saying that is equal to a normal 1060, but without display port make it useless for reselling to gamers, so i don't like that

[Guvn0r]

looks like all the allegations I made against these cards are false, just got a call from my supplier asking me if  I want to cut a deal with him for Inno3D variant of mining gpus.
I ll be buying a lot of them. He said price is close to normal 1060 but hash rate is more. around 30-35 in ethash.

35 MH? are you seirous that si very good, if true, but other are saying that is equal to a normal 1060, but without display port make it useless for reselling to gamers, so i don't like that

This is information from my supplier, and I will confirm this once I get the cards. Well, I think it might go 30 atleast or 30+ since it is dedicated for mining. They say the stocks are coming in 4 days. Lets see, I will confirm the price tomorrow.

[QuintLeo]

looks like all the allegations I made against these cards are false, just got a call from my supplier asking me if  I want to cut a deal with him for Inno3D variant of mining gpus.
I ll be buying a lot of them. He said price is close to normal 1060 but hash rate is more. around 30-35 in ethash.

35 MH? are you seirous that si very good, if true, but other are saying that is equal to a normal 1060, but without display port make it useless for reselling to gamers, so i don't like that

This is information from my supplier, and I will confirm this once I get the cards. Well, I think it might go 30 atleast or 30+ since it is dedicated for mining. They say the stocks are coming in 4 days. Lets see, I will confirm the price tomorrow.

 30 out of a 1060 6GB varient wouldn't be a big stretch, upgraded memory timings in the BIOS plus some OC on the memory could account for that.
 35 - that's a bit of a stretch. I'd have to see that to believe it.

 On the other hand, even at 30 and if it's lower than "standard 1060 6GB MSRP" it's going to get some attention, especially with the extreme shortage on other good ETH mining cards and their inflated pricing.
'
 It's scary when I saw a 1070 (MSI gaming, NOT a water-cooled model) at the SAME price as their lowest-cost 1080 ti (not 1080, 1080 ti that was NOT a typo).
 I do grant it was the HIGHEST priced 1070 on Newegg at the time - but STILL crazy.

 Looks like 1060s are starting to get hit by the "nothing else to buy, grab these" shortages and price-climb too.



 It's debateable if Alibaba has more scams than eBay - but they both have issues with scammers.

[Guvn0r]

looks like all the allegations I made against these cards are false, just got a call from my supplier asking me if  I want to cut a deal with him for Inno3D variant of mining gpus.
I ll be buying a lot of them. He said price is close to normal 1060 but hash rate is more. around 30-35 in ethash.

35 MH? are you seirous that si very good, if true, but other are saying that is equal to a normal 1060, but without display port make it useless for reselling to gamers, so i don't like that

This is information from my supplier, and I will confirm this once I get the cards. Well, I think it might go 30 atleast or 30+ since it is dedicated for mining. They say the stocks are coming in 4 days. Lets see, I will confirm the price tomorrow.

 30 out of a 1060 6GB varient wouldn't be a big stretch, upgraded memory timings in the BIOS plus some OC on the memory could account for that.
 35 - that's a bit of a stretch. I'd have to see that to believe it.

 On the other hand, even at 30 and if it's lower than "standard 1060 6GB MSRP" it's going to get some attention, especially with the extreme shortage on other good ETH mining cards and their inflated pricing.
'
 It's scary when I saw a 1070 (MSI gaming, NOT a water-cooled model) at the SAME price as their lowest-cost 1080 ti (not 1080, 1080 ti that was NOT a typo).
 I do grant it was the HIGHEST priced 1070 on Newegg at the time - but STILL crazy.

 Looks like 1060s are starting to get hit by the "nothing else to buy, grab these" shortages and price-climb too.



 It's debateable if Alibaba has more scams than eBay - but they both have issues with scammers.

It is true that prices are going crazy, I am watching them from may 2nd week and I see them rise exponentially. 

I have no much options but to buy these mining cards or I ll have to cut down on number of cards, like I only get half the numbers if I go for 1070s , which will only give me the half the hashrate or even less...which is sad.

I am taking my chances here..They asked for full advance payment and only sells in big quantities, I guess. Lets see.. with eth difficulty going up and all that, this seems to be the best option.

I am hoping 30 mh/s on ethash atleast.. with 90 days warranty..its actually a gamble.

[cryptomined]

for the doubters,
Got Mine already! LOL

Regards, cryptomined

[thesavoyard]

 They look like regular cards, why do they have fans? Why are these only available in certain countries???

 I watch your youtube channel and I believe you, you don't seem like someone who would run a hoax. But I'm nervous that this is only available in Chine, seems we are being driven out of the market on ASICS, are they trying to do the same on GPU mining?

[reb0rn21]

@cryptomined

Can you upload driver you got for them, bios would also be nice

Would like to know had NV tweaked anything as GTX1060 no way can pass 24Mh/s in ethereum with max OC

Also you have any info on 1080 mining card?

PS: no they are not scam but mostly shipped to places that mine a lot, for instance east europe will get it soon

[Guvn0r]

yes, please update on how it performs.. I m about to make a purchase if these cards are able to perform as they promise.
It would be great if you can post some test results.

[cryptomined]

They look like regular cards, why do they have fans? Why are these only available in certain countries???

 I watch your youtube channel and I believe you, you don't seem like someone who would run a hoax. But I'm nervous that this is only available in Chine, seems we are being driven out of the market on ASICS, are they trying to do the same on GPU mining?

they just arent available to the general public in other countries, but they are getting shipped out to other countries, certain distributors...

[cryptomined]

yes, please update on how it performs.. I m about to make a purchase if these cards are able to perform as they promise.
It would be great if you can post some test results.

ill try tonight or tomorrow, probably cant test them til tomorrow as kinda busy with store duties at the moment

[cryptomined]

@cryptomined

Can you upload driver you got for them, bios would also be nice

Would like to know had NV tweaked anything as GTX1060 no way can pass 24Mh/s in ethereum with max OC

Also you have any info on 1080 mining card?

PS: no they are not scam but mostly shipped to places that mine a lot, for instance east europe will get it soon

i dont know if there is a special driver for them , i guess i should ask, but i wasnt told anything about them
I can pull the bios off later, are you from that website that posts bios's?  domain escapes me atm
gp104 is in production, maybe 1 month give or take til it comes out

[thesavoyard]

@cryptomined

Can you upload driver you got for them, bios would also be nice

Would like to know had NV tweaked anything as GTX1060 no way can pass 24Mh/s in ethereum with max OC

Also you have any info on 1080 mining card?

PS: no they are not scam but mostly shipped to places that mine a lot, for instance east europe will get it soon

i dont know if there is a special driver for them , i guess i should ask, but i wasnt told anything about them
I can pull the bios off later, are you from that website that posts bios's?  domain escapes me atm
gp104 is in production, maybe 1 month give or take til it comes out

This is kind of good news because I just found out how to get industrial power rates. This could scale really well for me.

[smcalister91]

for the doubters,
Got Mine already! LOL

Regards, cryptomined

https://cdn-enterprise.discourse.org/zcash/uploads/default/original/2X/4/415ffe53624f620c29767170720b4cad1be6ad8a.JPG
https://cdn-enterprise.discourse.org/zcash/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d8ffc84ed52c4f04783432fb45b7eaf5067c11e3.JPG
https://cdn-enterprise.discourse.org/zcash/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d8ffc84ed52c4f04783432fb45b7eaf5067c11e3.JPG
https://cdn-enterprise.discourse.org/zcash/uploads/default/optimized/2X/f/f056fcdc6ba77c77fe1d22f0dfcdb34d352a511d_1_690x460.JPG

How come there is a letter from "Nvidia corporation"? i thought they had nothing to do with this project. Also, it looks like that letter is dated "july 08 2009".

Fake news boys. Why do people try this hard?

[BeyondDeception]

They look like regular cards, why do they have fans? Why are these only available in certain countries???

 I watch your youtube channel and I believe you, you don't seem like someone who would run a hoax. But I'm nervous that this is only available in Chine, seems we are being driven out of the market on ASICS, are they trying to do the same on GPU mining?

they just arent available to the general public in other countries, but they are getting shipped out to other countries, certain distributors...

I got a response similar to this - I reached out to my contact and they said they have the P106-100 only, but it's not for retail or retail customers? Kind of an interesting message. I'm wondering if that's just because they aren't released yet or just sending out prototypes? Not sure?

[BeyondDeception]

for the doubters,
Got Mine already! LOL

Regards, cryptomined

How come there is a letter from "Nvidia corporation"? i thought they had nothing to do with this project. Also, it looks like that letter is dated "july 08 2009".

Fake news boys. Why do people try this hard?

It's a canned letter - I got the same letter when I got my shipment of MSI RX580s, and I believe it was dated quite some time ago as well. Mine had both - A canned AMD letter on one side and a canned Nvidia letter on the other.

[artorres]

LOL Cryptomined is a trusted GUY,

Dont you see that the video card dont have DVI, HDMI, etc???

 

[Elder III]

Do these really only come with 90 day warranty? Can Cryptomined, or anyone that has direct connections with suppliers confirm or deny that? I just don't have interest in something with no resale value and such a tiny warranty.... even if they do hash 35 MH/s at cost $250 or whatever.... at least with a normal 1060 you get 2-3 years warranty and can sell it to gamers for $100+ a couple years down the road if you need to.

[Gaglam]

are they listed anywhere?

[fanatic26]

I can confirm they only have a 90 day warranty.

Also, they arent made for retail sale so you wont just find them in shops and such.

[ssinc]

With only a 90 day warranty (if true) it doesn't seem like a decent investment. Why not just buy the PC cards that can be used/sold later on?  

[agente]

With only a 90 day warranty (if true) it doesn't seem like a decent investment. Why not just buy the PC cards that can be used/sold later on?  

How can you analyze before speed test? Waiting for it and than decide

[Ayers]

for the doubters,
Got Mine already! LOL

Regards, cryptomined

so instead of wasting time tell us more about the hashrate!, which is the only thign that matter to me, also how you were able to buy this if they are not available anywhere? are you an insider or what?

[agente]

He said that will test this cards today and tomorrow.
You have to say thank you.

[Eliovp]

The hashrate he will get is 23Mh, with some simple clock changes he will be able to get 24Mh.

You'll see

[Merlig]

The hashrate he will get is 23Mh, with some simple clock changes he will be able to get 24Mh.

You'll see

But maybe with 30% less power consumption

[reb0rn21]

The hashrate he will get is 23Mh, with some simple clock changes he will be able to get 24Mh.

You'll see

Damn NV if they did nothing to nor driver nor HW
AT least I am expecting to give us tools for bios edit or to leak the needed data, but no way, damn them!

[ramroom]

I'm curious how much you paid and what's the hash rate. Both values important for ROI calculations...thx again for your updates @cryptomined

[QuintLeo]

Why didn't MSI turn the bloody fins around so the bigger holes in the bracket actually DO something to help cooling?

 Sapphire seems to have gotten THAT part right on their RX-based mining-specific cards (but I think they had them pointed the right way in the first place).

[Threemuskets]

https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-P106-6G/overview/
So here is a link OFFICIALLY from ASUS... But where can I get one? This is the only US based / trustworthy link to P106-100 stuff that I could find. Has anyone found preorders from US retailers yet?

[thesavoyard]

https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-P106-6G/overview/
So here is a link OFFICIALLY from ASUS... But where can I get one? This is the only US based / trustworthy link to P106-100 stuff that I could find. Has anyone found preorders from US retailers yet?

They also have AMD (ATI) cards: https://www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/MINING-RX470-4G/

[rawbert]

On sale RX 470 mining card on newegg for $230:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202291

[m0bilitee]

I'm surprised these are coming out as legit.  But will they have arrived too late? Post bubble?

[CoinFacker]

https://youtu.be/moJwjOhV9BA


bad hashrate. not the 30mhash like they said.
Just as fast as a normal 1060!

[QuintLeo]

On sale RX 470 mining card on newegg for $230:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202291

 $249 not $230 - and most of the time out of stock.

 They have one of the other Sapphire cards (with Samsung memory IIRC) at $259 + shipping - that one has been in-stock a couple of times for VERY brief periods.


 I've not seen any of the non-Sapphire cards actually on sale yet, but I don't have "big distributor" access.