Klondike 1 Avalon Asic chip Mini USB miner

[btceic]

It's so much easier to ship to retailers though!

I think it'll be something like (Prices VERY subject to change...)

1@ BTC 1
10@ BTC 0.75
50@ BTC 0.65
100@ BTC 0.6

I think ~550 will be sold and the rest mining personally and be kept as part of a limited warranty (if it breaks in X months, I'll replace it. While supplies last.)

Max order for first X days will be 10 units maybe? after that, if there are still any left, it'll be open to 50 and then 100.  General strategy assuming all the costs stay the same and bitcoin doesn't dip to low.

Sorry man, you might as well wholesale them at these prices, let the suckers on ebay pay $400.00 a pop for them each plus shipping.

If you can get to the .50 range I would gladly buy 10, give a few to some friends to get them into the game and keep some for myself.

[SoggyLettuce]

Someone should just groupbuy em all at .6 and then organize shipping them out...

**Cough** Arklan **Cough**

[Noitev]

It's so much easier to ship to retailers though!

I think it'll be something like (Prices VERY subject to change...)

1@ BTC 1
10@ BTC 0.75
50@ BTC 0.65
100@ BTC 0.6

I think ~550 will be sold and the rest mining personally and be kept as part of a limited warranty (if it breaks in X months, I'll replace it. While supplies last.)

Max order for first X days will be 10 units maybe? after that, if there are still any left, it'll be open to 50 and then 100.  General strategy assuming all the costs stay the same and bitcoin doesn't dip to low.

I get that you are doing this to make profit off of the sales of these but I see no possible way someone is going to make back a 1 or even the .75 btc investment. I think this would be much better at .5 or under (without shipping costs of course)

I know I personally won't be interested at all even at the bulk prices.

You said it's easier to ship to retailers and I get that but not the extreme variance from 1 unit to 100 units..You aren't including shipping in these costs are you?

I mean a good example is arklan who had to ship out 300+ units at only a .1 markup of original price. 0.4 markup is absolutely insane and quite honestly I didn't even expect the units themselves to cost 0.4.

It's very time consuming to do a lot of small orders.

Arklan is a cool dude, go ahead and buy from him. (although ASICMiner is juicing you guys real hard for this usbminer...)

I'm not just reshipping boards anyway considering I have to ship chips/ get them made and am fronting 100% of the costs.

I REALLY don't want to send 500 1 miner orders, which is why I priced singles at 1 BTC (cause I know at least 1 person will ask to buy one...) I'm most comfortable with 10 at a time at least. As for my profit margins, it's a free market and I think my current prices are low and reasonable, but by all means you can buy it elsewhere, it is open-source and all. The prices are also not set in stone at all and may go up or down.

[Noitev]

Someone should just groupbuy em all at .6 and then organize shipping them out...

**Cough** Arklan **Cough**

That is SO ok with me...

[SoggyLettuce]

I just feel there is a better way than either putting the burden on someone else or having ridiculous markups for small orders. How much effort goes into the shipping of 500 units? I imagine the bulk of it would be the labeling and traveling to and from post office right? I still think prices should be able to have at least a small margin of allowing miners to make some profit here.

I don't think that having such a high price on lower amounts to discourage buying in low quantities is a good idea. This is supposed to be something where you don't have to be spending a lot of money to be a part of btc mining. Please don't make this another block erupter that will never return investment because that isn't what most of us are here for. We want to see profit (even minimal) in mining; not via reselling on ebay, bitmit, amazon, or whatever.

[LaserHorse]

I don't think that having such a high price on lower amounts to discourage buying in low quantities is a good idea. This is supposed to be something where you don't have to be spending a lot of money to be a part of btc mining. Please don't make this another block erupter that will never return investment because that isn't what most of us are here for. We want to see profit (even minimal) in mining; not via reselling on ebay, bitmit, amazon, or whatever.

I believe it would be more accurate to see the higher price not as a way to discourage, but as a way to compensate the vendor for the additional time and effort required to individually package label and ship a single product.  It is a time consuming process - easy to overlook when we're talking about one sale, but certainly not when considered cumulatively.

[Noitev]

I just feel there is a better way than either putting the burden on someone else or having ridiculous markups for small orders. How much effort goes into the shipping of 500 units? I imagine the bulk of it would be the labeling and traveling to and from post office right? I still think prices should be able to have at least a small margin of allowing miners to make some profit here.

I don't think that having such a high price on lower amounts to discourage buying in low quantities is a good idea. This is supposed to be something where you don't have to be spending a lot of money to be a part of btc mining. Please don't make this another block erupter that will never return investment because that isn't what most of us are here for. We want to see profit (even minimal) in mining; not via reselling on ebay, bitmit, amazon, or whatever.

Well find a person willing to do a group buy when the time comes. I'm saying I personally don't want to deal with it.

[SoggyLettuce]

So if we got someone to buy all 550 would the price still be .6?

Edit nvm just saw that btc is at sub 100...ive been basing this on a  115 price

[sensei]

I'm happy to do small buys, the only hassle is shipping, but that's business....

K1's at 0.3 BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216952.0

[btceic]

I'm happy to do small buys, the only hassle is shipping, but that's business....

K1's at 0.3 BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216952.0

That seems like a good deal, thanks

[2weiX]

I'll buy 200 @ 0.5 each to resell on my site.

[SoggyLettuce]

I'm happy to do small buys, the only hassle is shipping, but that's business....

K1's at 0.3 BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=216952.0

That's not including the avalon chip which you have to provide to them. That's about .1 and then shipping is a hassle so all in all this buy is probably .1 more expensive with a bulk buy but this is so much more added convenience and probably will be ready faster.

[SoggyLettuce]

I'll buy 200 @ 0.5 each to resell on my site.

I would be willing to buy for .6 if you did that but we need to see where the price is going to level out at. Hopefully it will pop back up to at least 115.

[turtle83]

I'll buy 200 @ 0.5 each to resell on my site.

I would be willing to buy for .6 if you did that but we need to see where the price is going to level out at. Hopefully it will pop back up to at least 115.

from a buyers perspective, if ur pricing mining equipment in BTC, price of btc:usd should really not matter... since these things are for mining bitcoins only, your ROI would always remain in BTC... skip converting to scam currencies

[btceic]

I'll buy 200 @ 0.5 each to resell on my site.

I would be willing to buy for .6 if you did that but we need to see where the price is going to level out at. Hopefully it will pop back up to at least 115.

from a buyers perspective, if ur pricing mining equipment in BTC, price of btc:usd should really not matter... since these things are for mining bitcoins only, your ROI would always remain in BTC... skip converting to scam currencies

Their issue is that they have to purchase the raw equipment in fiat.

[turtle83]

I'll buy 200 @ 0.5 each to resell on my site.

I would be willing to buy for .6 if you did that but we need to see where the price is going to level out at. Hopefully it will pop back up to at least 115.

from a buyers perspective, if ur pricing mining equipment in BTC, price of btc:usd should really not matter... since these things are for mining bitcoins only, your ROI would always remain in BTC... skip converting to scam currencies

Their issue is that they have to purchase the raw equipment in fiat.

thats the sellers problem.

[btceic]

I'll buy 200 @ 0.5 each to resell on my site.

I would be willing to buy for .6 if you did that but we need to see where the price is going to level out at. Hopefully it will pop back up to at least 115.

from a buyers perspective, if ur pricing mining equipment in BTC, price of btc:usd should really not matter... since these things are for mining bitcoins only, your ROI would always remain in BTC... skip converting to scam currencies

Their issue is that they have to purchase the raw equipment in fiat.

thats the sellers problem.

Not disagreeing with you on this at all, just stating a fact as to why the prices are where they are at.

[SoggyLettuce]

I'll buy 200 @ 0.5 each to resell on my site.

I would be willing to buy for .6 if you did that but we need to see where the price is going to level out at. Hopefully it will pop back up to at least 115.

from a buyers perspective, if ur pricing mining equipment in BTC, price of btc:usd should really not matter... since these things are for mining bitcoins only, your ROI would always remain in BTC... skip converting to scam currencies

Their issue is that they have to purchase the raw equipment in fiat.

thats the sellers problem.

Right but if bitcoin goes to sub 90, sub 80, or even sub 70 these miners will be more expensive because of the cost it takes to make them

[dan99]

I won't mind getting some at 0.2btc each .....

[SoggyLettuce]

I won't mind getting some at 0.2btc each .....

maybe when btc is at 260 again lol