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May 07, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
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So much interest!

Sadly the price is way to much for me Sad, it has very good potential.


I hope whoever buys it is passionate and makes this into a beautiful home!

I think the objects price is the least of your worries. My parents had renovated a similar object in better condition. Renovation cost was roughly twice the purchase price.

Also please keep in mind there are rules in germany for certain old buildings ("Denkmalschutz"). You might be obligated to preserve the building "in its current substance". You probably can't just demolish it and build a new house on top (which might be cheaper than renovating). I'm no expert on this, but many old buildings like that in germany go for a very low price because of this. An uncle of mine, roughly 30 years ago, bought a now beautiful house in germany for 1 german Mark. He's been renovating it for decades.

I'm not trying to talk this down, I'm sure it can be made a beautiful home / vacation place, but maybe OP should clarify on the status regarding "monument protection" to avoid costly surprises for the buyer.

On the other hand I've been thinking about starting a "bitcoin village". This might be a candidate Wink. I'd be interested in the age structure of the population there.

EDIT: as an example see the 3rd offer from the top on this page: http://pfeiffer-koberstein-immobilien.de/portal.php?id=15&vSuchText=Denkmalschutz

The building is from the 2nd half of the 19th century and is under "monument protection". It's absolutely gorgeous, yet it goes for a mere 55,000€ because of the obligations attached.


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May 07, 2013, 08:39:25 AM
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sorry, I shouldn't have edited in this non-edit thread.

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May 07, 2013, 09:22:28 AM
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Also please keep in mind there are rules in germany for certain old buildings ("Denkmalschutz"). You might be obligated to preserve the building "in its current substance". You probably can't just demolish it and build a new house on top (which might be cheaper than renovating).



It looks like a Fachwerkhaus that makes it old eneough to but it unter Denkmalschutz http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denkmalschutz by Law and thats a Bitch when it comes to renovating.

But I already said specifically this is NOT Denk as this has been checked and verified. Why do people not read before commenting......

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May 07, 2013, 12:14:36 PM
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Also please keep in mind there are rules in germany for certain old buildings ("Denkmalschutz"). You might be obligated to preserve the building "in its current substance". You probably can't just demolish it and build a new house on top (which might be cheaper than renovating).



It looks like a Fachwerkhaus that makes it old eneough to but it unter Denkmalschutz http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denkmalschutz by Law and thats a Bitch when it comes to renovating.

But I already said specifically this is NOT Denk as this has been checked and verified. Why do people not read before commenting......

I'm sorry. because the thread is too long. Good to know it's not "denk" Wink

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May 07, 2013, 12:35:19 PM
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You know, Denkmalschutz has 2 sides. It means, you'll have to corodinate your renovation work with the local authorities and you won't be allowed to use some parts (like modern plastic frame windows, or so). But otoh, you'll be supported and get some percentage of the renovation costs.

What irritates me more, are those 500 Euros for the notary, considering, that I paid closer to 4000,- for my small appartment here...

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May 07, 2013, 01:09:49 PM
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Is it possible to see the location of the property within the town on Google Maps or something similar? Thanks.

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May 07, 2013, 02:10:19 PM
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Is it possible to see the location of the property within the town on Google Maps or something similar? Thanks.

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May 07, 2013, 03:23:58 PM
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@molecular - there is no Denkmalschutz on the property as has been repeated by OP several times (to his exasperation).

I know you already know this now but just for the sake of anyone else joining this thread:

there is no Denkmalschutz on the property

If this post was useful, interesting or entertaining, then you've misunderstood.
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May 07, 2013, 03:38:49 PM
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Is it possible to see the location of the property within the town on Google Maps or something similar? Thanks.

Seems like this one https://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.384037,11.203936&ll=51.384022,11.203949&spn=0.001403,0.00331&num=1&t=h&z=19

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May 07, 2013, 03:44:20 PM
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@molecular - there is no Denkmalschutz on the property as has been repeated by OP several times (to his exasperation).

I know you already know this now but just for the sake of anyone else joining this thread:

there is no Denkmalschutz on the property

yes. I'm very sorry. I didn't read the thread in its entirety.

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May 07, 2013, 05:28:03 PM
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yes. I'm very sorry. I didn't read the thread in its entirety.

I did ask the mods if there was a way some of the content of the auction could be archived so people could concentrate on just the auction but had no reply. They must be very busy.
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May 07, 2013, 06:01:09 PM
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My vote would be to start a new tread named something like "House for sale in (area)/Germany - BTC auction" and link to this tread in the OP.

If possible it might only be open for posts by users who first made contact via PM.

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May 07, 2013, 06:41:53 PM
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My vote would be to start a new tread named something like "House for sale in (area)/Germany - BTC auction" and link to this tread in the OP.

If possible it might only be open for posts by users who first made contact via PM.

there is a function that allows you to do that?
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May 07, 2013, 06:55:18 PM
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My vote would be to start a new tread named something like "House for sale in (area)/Germany - BTC auction" and link to this tread in the OP.

If possible it might only be open for posts by users who first made contact via PM.

there is a function that allows you to do that?

I do not know, hence the "If possible", but I know for sure that it's possible to make a trad where OP is moderating it. Not quite the same, but you could remove any clutterposts.

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May 08, 2013, 12:37:19 AM
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I do not know, hence the "If possible", but I know for sure that it's possible to make a trad where OP is moderating it. Not quite the same, but you could remove any clutterposts.

I looked into it but it seems you cannot start a tread in the Auctions with OP as the mod.

Does anyone know how to get hold of a mod round here? I would like to see if they would be willing to help in the matter, but I can't seem to find one.
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May 08, 2013, 12:51:37 AM
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My vote would be to start a new tread named something like "House for sale in (area)/Germany.

agreed. this thread is a total mess.
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May 08, 2013, 06:50:03 AM
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Why can't you just keep using this thread? So what if there is a bunch of mess earlier on. Just pick up and continue with the auction as normal. List a summary of previous bids and there you go.

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May 08, 2013, 10:28:27 AM
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Why can't you just keep using this thread? So what if there is a bunch of mess earlier on. Just pick up and continue with the auction as normal. List a summary of previous bids and there you go.

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May 08, 2013, 12:44:33 PM
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Bidding 44.444 BTC.

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May 08, 2013, 01:27:21 PM
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Bidding 44.444 BTC.

Starting price lets say 10 BTC in increment's of 1

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