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June 23, 2017, 05:15:17 AM |
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I also think that they are just frauds Let's wait for a statement from Polybius on this matter And whether they can show their wallet address to save their ICO funds
I dont think wait and see is the right way. We have to need the 100 % proof these are scamers. One of which we can ask for proof of their wallet address to save ICO funds Perhaps by requesting proof of transfer to one of the investors who gave his or her funds
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June 23, 2017, 06:40:43 AM |
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June 23, 2017, 09:46:49 AM |
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Hi guys! Just joined to share my research. Being from Estonia, a tiny former soviet block country, now an IT haven where Polybius and Hashcoins are registered in, I know which sources to check. The Polybius.io webpage is registered to Polybius Foundation OÜ, a company that doesn't have much information on the register at the moment, but It was just registered 4 months ago. Source: https://www.e-krediidiinfo.ee/14202836-POLYBIUS%20FOUNDATION%20O%C3%9CThough the Polybius Foundation OÜ company doesn't seem to have much information to go on, the executive team is the same collective that started hashcoins.com - registered as Hashcoins OÜ. Hashcoins has 14 employees, a yearly FIAT turnover of 153 525.00 EUR (period 01/12/2016 - 28/02/2017) and has payed a total of 38973.54 € in state and payroll taxes in Q1 of 2017. Admittedly, that doesn't seem huge, but given that the median monthly wage here is ~720 € and that they probably don't convert the majority of their assets to FIAT - not too shabby. The company also has a 5/5 star rating on innovation, personnel performance, social responsibility and quality of product/service. Source: https://www.e-krediidiinfo.ee/12490015-HashCoinsTaking into consideration that the execs all have identified themselves on the Polybius ICO team page and they have an actual successful registered company for which they are juridically responsible for, I'd say there is no doubt about them being legit. Looking at the companies long term goals and the whitepaper it seems obvious to me that IF they succeed in their endeavors they will become game changers as the system would bring a lot of new funds to the crypto scene. At least if it all goes belly up, I'll know which bus to hop on and which doors to bang on ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) After all the talk about Hashcoins being a scam I fail to see how the company can still be functional and successful while giving employment to 14 people... thinking of calling them up to see if they are interested in an interview. You should ALWAYS do your own research and NEVER - EVER blindly invest money you cant afford to loose, but if you appreciate the tiny tip I just gave you, I wouldn't mind being tipped myself ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) BTC - 1DRgD8UKdy32GKBbuJ7h3rWTJEKQjyZEV4 Thank you and have a nice day!
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June 23, 2017, 11:43:03 AM |
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I also think that they are just frauds Let's wait for a statement from Polybius on this matter And whether they can show their wallet address to save their ICO funds
BTC Coinbase escrow 13M2aBStru4LDoUGtqKbpvo3hdF4B8Rg8F EMC EeLeckKqTRvbbyThGhvMYeVWhrCwYb6ev6 ETH 0xe9eca8bb5e61e8e32f26b5e8c117561f68084a9c USDT 34ZiYBEQxABhh5kDr5pqB7TiwNo4DcqbaC
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June 23, 2017, 11:51:03 AM |
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Hi guys! Just joined to share my research. Being from Estonia, a tiny former soviet block country, now an IT haven where Polybius and Hashcoins are registered in, I know which sources to check. The Polybius.io webpage is registered to Polybius Foundation OÜ, a company that doesn't have much information on the register at the moment, but It was just registered 4 months ago. Source: https://www.e-krediidiinfo.ee/14202836-POLYBIUS%20FOUNDATION%20O%C3%9CThough the Polybius Foundation OÜ company doesn't seem to have much information to go on, the executive team is the same collective that started hashcoins.com - registered as Hashcoins OÜ. Hashcoins has 14 employees, a yearly FIAT turnover of 153 525.00 EUR (period 01/12/2016 - 28/02/2017) and has payed a total of 38973.54 € in state and payroll taxes in Q1 of 2017. Admittedly, that doesn't seem huge, but given that the median monthly wage here is ~720 € and that they probably don't convert the majority of their assets to FIAT - not too shabby. The company also has a 5/5 star rating on innovation, personnel performance, social responsibility and quality of product/service. Source: https://www.e-krediidiinfo.ee/12490015-HashCoinsTaking into consideration that the execs all have identified themselves on the Polybius ICO team page and they have an actual successful registered company for which they are juridically responsible for, I'd say there is no doubt about them being legit. Looking at the companies long term goals and the whitepaper it seems obvious to me that IF they succeed in their endeavors they will become game changers as the system would bring a lot of new funds to the crypto scene. At least if it all goes belly up, I'll know which bus to hop on and which doors to bang on ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) After all the talk about Hashcoins being a scam I fail to see how the company can still be functional and successful while giving employment to 14 people... thinking of calling them up to see if they are interested in an interview. You should ALWAYS do your own research and NEVER - EVER blindly invest money you cant afford to loose, but if you appreciate the tiny tip I just gave you, I wouldn't mind being tipped myself ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) BTC - 1DRgD8UKdy32GKBbuJ7h3rWTJEKQjyZEV4 Thank you and have a nice day! http://rus.err.ee/590236/ak-rasskazala-o-golovokruzhitelnom-uspehe-it-firmy-hashcoinsGoogle translate: There is an opinion that in Estonia not everyone can succeed, that there is a glass ceiling that does not allow to break up. The "AK +" reporter Konstantin Sviridovsky in his story, aired on ETV + on April 16, tells of the dizzying success of five friends who managed to destroy this stereotype. The company Hashcoins today is one of the three largest enterprises in the field of crypto-currency production. The company appeared in 2013, and then no one thought of creating a bank. At that moment a group of enthusiastic friends saw the future in the crypto currency, in the so-called bitcoins. It was interesting for them to collect special computers that, similar to printing machines, obtained virtual money. At that time there were only 5 people working in the company. At night they gathered in the office, developed new schemes for composing the components, so that computers for mining bitcoins worked long and reliably. Then the company decided to create hundreds of such computers and lease their production facilities, since there were many who wanted to produce bitcoins, but they did not have money for expensive equipment. And pretty quickly, the customer base has grown to an incredible size. And today, as already mentioned, Hashcoins is one of the three largest companies in the world to provide this kind of services.
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June 23, 2017, 12:26:25 PM |
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They are legitimate not legal I think the time will tell just we have to wait, I still think the idea is excellent and are on the brink of great success because Europe is big and have a lot of BTC users
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June 23, 2017, 12:31:43 PM |
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Looks like a wanted poster...... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I hope you're all aware that the Hashcoins crew are behind this ICO. The same Hashcoins who stole 1000's off of forum members by selling mining hardware that doesn't exist. free photo hostingNot a single item delivered. Then they abandoned their thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.msg19333790#msg19333790The same Hashcoins are doing numerous ICO's on this forum.
image ruResearch & use due diligence before throwing your hard earned cash at these people. If you are comfortable giving your money to these proven scammers, go ahead. Just a friendly FYI. Good luck.
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June 23, 2017, 12:34:55 PM |
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LOL
IconFirm, your accusations without any proofs against interview from http://news.err.ee ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) You overestimate yourself. A thinking person will never take into account your messages. It has long been clear to everyone that you are a spammer or an unsuccessful competitor and an envious person http://rus.err.ee/590236/ak-rasskazala-o-golovokruzhitelnom-uspehe-it-firmy-hashcoinsGoogle translate: There is an opinion that in Estonia not everyone can succeed, that there is a glass ceiling that does not allow to break up. The "AK +" reporter Konstantin Sviridovsky in his story, aired on ETV + on April 16, tells of the dizzying success of five friends who managed to destroy this stereotype. The company Hashcoins today is one of the three largest enterprises in the field of crypto-currency production. The company appeared in 2013, and then no one thought of creating a bank. At that moment a group of enthusiastic friends saw the future in the crypto currency, in the so-called bitcoins. It was interesting for them to collect special computers that, similar to printing machines, obtained virtual money. At that time there were only 5 people working in the company. At night they gathered in the office, developed new schemes for composing the components, so that computers for mining bitcoins worked long and reliably. Then the company decided to create hundreds of such computers and lease their production facilities, since there were many who wanted to produce bitcoins, but they did not have money for expensive equipment. And pretty quickly, the customer base has grown to an incredible size. And today, as already mentioned, Hashcoins is one of the three largest companies in the world to provide this kind of services.
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June 23, 2017, 01:04:34 PM |
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How to deal with aggressive Hashcoins/Polybius shill/fake/alt accounts who send threatening PM's to forum users: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fs11.postimg.org%2Flatgylubn%2Fignore.png&t=665&c=Vwunp7erSsVS2g) Gotta love that ignore button ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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June 23, 2017, 01:12:39 PM Last edit: June 23, 2017, 02:13:22 PM by AlexMix |
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Hahaha, lol) If you are so sure of your beliefs, then be a man!!! open your name and send an official complaint to Hashcoins. Now all your words are easily refuted by the positive information that is on the Internet in open access.
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June 24, 2017, 06:23:08 AM |
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I was gonna invest in Polybius project but lots of people reminded me bad stories about EmerCoin massacre. Then I figured out that it's better to pass polybius.
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June 24, 2017, 10:30:20 AM |
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I was gonna invest in Polybius project but lots of people reminded me bad stories about EmerCoin massacre. Then I figured out that it's better to pass polybius.
It is, go safe and keep this watching. You can lern a lot!
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June 24, 2017, 07:16:02 PM |
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I also notices that negative trust. Negative trust doesnt normally bother me but reading onto it there sandy behavior going on for sure. 8m not saying they a scam but I have been careful about them before reading this bi now I k ow I'm not the only one being very careful. Good discussion. We need to talk about these things.
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June 25, 2017, 03:27:46 AM |
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I also notices that negative trust. Negative trust doesnt normally bother me but reading onto it there sandy behavior going on for sure. 8m not saying they a scam but I have been careful about them before reading this bi now I k ow I'm not the only one being very careful. Good discussion. We need to talk about these things.
Talking, watching, warning. This is what we can do. Everything shows when the devs must deliver.
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June 25, 2017, 03:41:42 AM |
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I read some article regaeding on the CEO of the polybius is an owner of a ponzi scheme site that turn into scam in the past. Is this legit? It's alarming because polybius already raised 30+ million usd on their ICO.
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June 25, 2017, 02:38:59 PM |
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wow 30+ million usd it looks like they strolled when they bring so much, maybe there is something there except money
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June 26, 2017, 04:07:11 AM |
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WTF! Is this for real? A lot of money is wasted here if that's the case. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Investors are only giving away their hard-earned money! ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) I am not one of them but it concerns me too because the trust of huge investors to participate in ICOs of various alts will for sure be affected. They are critical for ICO success. And I think my bro is into polybius also. Thanks for this warning.
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June 26, 2017, 12:41:47 PM |
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So, lockept93, Any progress on these questions I answered to you in Telegram? Do you have any more? I thought I addressed all the concerns that you had, are you going to post any of it? Hit me up in Telegram if you need any more info.
All the best, Pavel Polybius.io Team
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