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July 31, 2017, 01:39:01 PM
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I think it's pretty clear now it is a scam. Hope we could save some money from good guys.  Cool

I still can't see where is the SCAM... The licenses for the Polybius Bank can't be on hand of the Founders before several month, perhaps years... Until then, I think there is no increased value for the Tokens.

Also, the Tokens would never be intended to be coins, any form of digital currency. Only representation of more or less 20% of profits of a bank that does not yet exist.

But I must be very dumb.

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July 31, 2017, 02:10:52 PM
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News from the Polybius Bank:

Life after the ICO: how are things now at Polybius
The Polybius ICO ended on 5th July, immediately ranking among the top five largest ICOs of 2017, raising $31 million with 27,000 participants. So what has the team behind this next generation financial institution project been doing over the last three weeks, and what are Polybius’ plans for the near future? Read in this article.

Completed activities
Immediately upon closure of the ICO, all surplus tokens were burned. Out of the initial 20 million PLBT (Polybius Tokens) issued, just under 4 million are left, 3,969,565. It is unfortunate, of course, that we didn’t reach a more rounded number.

The team spent the next few days accepting the last bank payments granting the tokens in return.

Meanwhile, all payments received remain in their accounts, as before, allowing anyone who so wishes to check the contents of their Ethereum, Emercoin, and our bitcoin-escrow wallets.

What is happening now?
The distribution of PLBT within the framework of the bounty campaign is coming to an end. In total, 79,391.299996 (or 2% of the total number) PLBT have been distributed as bounties for various support services provided to the project and the Polybius ICO sales.

Currently, there is an internal audit of the ICO underway. During the audit, our accountants will verify the tokens accrued in relation to the money received to ensure that all transactions are in good order. As the Polybius Foundation has raised more than $30 million this fiscal year, under Estonian law, it is required to undergo an obligatory accounting audit at the beginning of 2018.

Hunting, Will Hunting, where Polybius gets its bankers
Polybius is already a popular place to work. Bankers, lawyers, security and compliance specialists, as well as cryptographers and developers, are actively providing us with their CVs.

But the number one question for the Polybius team right now is “what exactly is the set up of a strong banking team?” Why is this so important?

  • To establish a bank — you need to get a license.
  • To get a license — you need to get a great team together.
  • To get a great team together — you have to entice them from their current jobs.

And this is where it gets fascinating!

During the ICO we were often accused of appearing to lack experienced and successful bankers in the project. That was only half-true, they really were not there, but not because we did not have them.
Polybius’ ‘Will Hunting” started long before the opening of the ICO. Of course, Polybius was nowhere near hiring bankers, but that did not stop us from getting to know highly skilled specialists who were interested in the project, many of whom declared their interest in switching to Polybius in the event of a successful ICO.

Now that the Polybius funding targets have not only been achieved but even exceeded, the departure of bankers from mighty, but inflexible old school financial institutions has begun. However, this process takes time, from one to six months. Bankers are not people who change their jobs at the click of a button, some need to provide a month’s notice, others two, and others six.

The ‘Hunting’ process is ongoing — lawyers are in negotiations, drawing up employment contracts. Building the bank’s team will start from the top. The first recruits will be the CEO and senior management of the bank, and they will take the main strategic decisions, formulate the core development parameters, and then recruit the necessary staff.

Among the decisions to be taken will be making a final choice regarding Polybius country of jurisdiction, making arrangements with regulators and obtaining a banking license, whether that is done by starting from scratch or by purchasing an already existing bank.

We regard the purchase of an existing bank as our second choice regarding obtaining a banking license. We began receiving proposals of this nature before the completion of the ICO. We are looking into a Maltese bank with particular interest. However, it is important to understand that when you buy an existing bank, you also buy its entire history. As such the most rigorous checks must be carried out. For this reason, we would prefer to start from scratch and create our own bank.

We plan to announce the name of the Polybius CEO this fall, followed by appointments to other key positions. The Polybius team (for the time being without a bank) will then start its work.

Why is there no need to worry about the token price drop
Immediately upon the listing of PLBT on several cryptocurrency exchanges on July 5, its price began to fall precipitously. It reached a low of $3.60 from a starting value of $10. However, a simple analysis shows that this has nothing to do with “panicked investors fleeing tokens for cash.” Polybius tokens have a total capitalization of ~ $18 million at current exchange rates, yet the volume of trading in PLBT rests between $100,000–150,000 per day, which is less than one percent of the total value of tokens. So what accounts for this single percent? It is most probable that it is simply a trade in tokens issued as bounties (i.e. free of charge)

In accordance with the above, we can see that those investors who paid real money for PLBTs did not succumb to panic selling and herd mentality. They realize that putting money into something like Polybius is a long-term investment. As such, 99% of tokens remain in their original buyers’ wallets. The token value has already begun to rise gradually, and will probably grow further following this publication. It will inevitably continue growing as more news emerge from Polybius.

Cool, you’ve been on TV!
For sure, HashCoins and Polybius have been inundated with various requests for help in organizing ICOs. We certainly cannot answer every one of them in detail. It is unlikely we will even be able to read all of them in full. We shall just have to select the most interesting proposals.

As an example of the above, after the hype regarding the success of the Polybius ICO (it should not be forgotten that the ICO has been conducted by an Estonian company, and by Estonian standards a crowdfunding campaign raising over $30 million is explosive), the heads of Estonian banks started contacting us. They invited HashCoins to give lectures and presentations on blockchains and cryptocurrencies. We have already begun visiting them and sharing our experience for free. If you represent a European bank or a major Russian bank, you are welcome to contact us by email at info@hashcoins.com. Let’s be friends!

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July 31, 2017, 11:50:46 PM
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I could write the same - but at least nothing to see. Since month it says: To much work.
But noone ever see something real happen, only organizing money and investors (at least the badest support and community activity all time).
Nothing happend, tokens are worthless numbers atm.



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August 01, 2017, 12:12:29 AM
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I think it's pretty clear now it is a scam. Hope we could save some money from good guys.  Cool

I still can't see where is the SCAM... The licenses for the Polybius Bank can't be on hand of the Founders before several month, perhaps years... Until then, I think there is no increased value for the Tokens.

Also, the Tokens would never be intended to be coins, any form of digital currency. Only representation of more or less 20% of profits of a bank that does not yet exist.

But I must be very dumb.

There is actually no evidence of a scam. That doesn't mean it is not a scam, it just means people calling it a scam don't understand how to use evidence to form a conclusion.
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August 01, 2017, 11:20:36 AM
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From Edgar Bers of Polybius on btctalk:

Hello everyone,

I am happy to see that trolls are now fading away with more common sense being driven into this thread. Once again I need to remind you that Bitcointalk is not the #1 priority place for us to be in, as we are heavily focused on our Telegram groups. In fact, you can see my presence there on a daily basis.

English – t.me/polybius_eng
Russian – t.me/polybius_rus

All our news and latest publications can be found on our Facebook page – https://www.facebook.com/projectpolybius/
We also have Twitter where we post info regarding all our updates – https://twitter.com/polybiusbank

Many of you have participated in our Bounty campaign and you are now waiting for us to pay out the Facebook bounties. Unfortunately we had an issue with Facebook, especially with the way user IDs are provided and matched with some other info. Yesterday we've written a script to automate the matching process and we are now finalizing our sheets. Once done, we will send out the bounties in a single batch, so do not worry and stay tuned.

Those of you who participated in other parts of the Bounty campaign but did not receive their tokens – please contact our support through Intercom.

I will continue monitoring this thread but I highly suggest switching over to our Telegram groups.

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August 01, 2017, 11:22:49 AM
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Those of you who participated in other parts of the Bounty campaign but did not receive their tokens – please contact our support through Intercom.
What is intercom?
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September 02, 2017, 10:59:13 PM
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Emercoin legit 100% stop trolling
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September 02, 2017, 11:11:34 PM
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The coin isn't scam. It is traded in etherdelta. I think the scam is the project. Polybius have no real project. I mean Polybius bank. It is just a way to attract investors. Investors will earn the token, It use erc20 token. It is easy to create tokens and no need high money. Do you know that most ICOs projects are scam. The real is the coins but the projects of most ICOs are scam.
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September 02, 2017, 11:40:33 PM
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The coin isn't scam. It is traded in etherdelta. I think the scam is the project. Polybius have no real project. I mean Polybius bank. It is just a way to attract investors. Investors will earn the token, It use erc20 token. It is easy to create tokens and no need high money. Do you know that most ICOs projects are scam. The real is the coins but the projects of most ICOs are scam.

Even though I agree with you however, some projects do need time to develop.
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September 03, 2017, 10:10:26 AM
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Oh, really just warning?


kilo17 = lockept93 = blurreyed = iconfirm - attackers and scammers, which want to get cheap tokens of legit and strong company


Just look how this guys posted at the same time on EMERCOIN thread



look also on trust rating of iconfirm - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=841288

blurreyed  - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=885996

Trusted feedback

This user operates at least 28 accounts and is permabanned from the site: IYFTech = PatMan = cathoderay = deleterase = .....Really? = lobogil = megahash = PatManCan = John1965 = John1900 = YourBlondFriend = Rustiga = FraudSquad = smokem = patSNL = meono = blarneystone = p3yot33at3r = biefstuk = k9control = madk9control = useragent = dogiecontrol = vatfraudster = novatforyou = youliealot = novatforyou = IconFirm = blurryeyed. See the referenced thread for more details.


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lockept93 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=519483


Iconfirm start spamming Emercoin thread at page 67 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362513.1320 and finished at page 84


Look please at 80 page of Emercoin thread - lockept93 and Iconfirm spam it - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362513.1580,

then next page - 81 blurreyed joins them - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362513.1600

Look scam warning thread the same guys everywhere - lockept93 + Iconfirm -https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.20, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.100, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.160 and others....

lockept93 + Iconfirm + blurryeyed https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.140, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.180

On this scam thread also all together - lockept93 + Iconfirm + blurryeyed -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1971023.0


lockept93 so active, did you forgot that created 4 threads same day? Are you on drugs?
 

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1971023.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970884.0
3. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.0
4. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952266.0


Well, do you still think they are here to warn you?
No, it was an attack to buy tokens cheaper.

EMERCOIN NEVER EVER ASKED T INVEST IN THEM, THEY NEVER DO AN ICO, SO HOW THEY CAN SCAM THEIR INVESTORS? THERE MORE THAN 5-8 ICO COMING EVERY DAY, SO YOU THINK THEY SO LEGIT? WHY NOT WARN ABOUT THAT?Huh

YES, BECAUSE YOU KNOW HUGE POTENTIAL OF EMERCOIN.
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September 03, 2017, 03:40:36 PM
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Oh, really just warning?


kilo17 = lockept93 = blurreyed = iconfirm - attackers and scammers, which want to get cheap tokens of legit and strong company


Just look how this guys posted at the same time on EMERCOIN thread


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it is very sad that many people believe in this

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September 03, 2017, 10:30:20 PM
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Well, do you still think they are here to warn you?


Yes.


No, it was an attack to buy tokens cheaper.


I don't & never will buy anything from known scammers or from any group who promotes scam organisations on their website.

PIA went evil: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203968.msg53160131#msg53160131 Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi/Gate.io/Changelly/Freewallet.org/crex24 scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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Well, do you still think they are here to warn you?


Yes.


No, it was an attack to buy tokens cheaper.


I don't & never will buy anything from known scammers or from any group who promotes scam organisations on their website.

Scammer here is only you, Emercoin never ever asked you to buy something, especially their coins and technologies, all made by their team without investors, if you dont know, so go to do concert it another place
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MS Azure is still providing those EMC services and it looks good from that point - ya its experimental like all the others. I like the timeline of EMC as well. Not many coins have a history like that. We'll see =)

I'm good at the DINO, no big deal.



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October 28, 2017, 10:52:44 AM
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It's funny reading through the Hashcoins/Polybius thread - it was a scam all along. Of course.

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It's funny reading through the Hashcoins/Polybius thread - it was a scam all along. Of course.

Now Confirmed.

Stay away from any ICO involving Ambisafe/Hashcoins/Emercoin - Propy, Worldcore, Compcoin, Orderbook, LevelNet, Micromoney, Polybius, Orocrypt, Cryptaur, etc, etc.

PIA went evil: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203968.msg53160131#msg53160131 Unofficial & Uncensored SYSCOIN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4748031.0    Do not trust Yobit/HitBTC/BiteBTC/coinsbit/p2pb2b/Mercatox/C-cex/Poloniex/WEX/KuCoin/LiveCoin/TheRockTrading/Bitfinex/ADAB/Okex/TradeSatoshi/Gate.io/Changelly/Freewallet.org/crex24 scam exchanges or ICO's by known scammers like HashCoins/Ambisafe/Bountyhive - they WILL scam you! Use diligence & research. Buy coins, sell coins - don't invest in stupid shit. If your questions aren't answered - don't touch it.
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confirmed. true scam. it's pity these bastards put shadow and distrust into ICO and crypto in general. i am sure they will get what they truly deserve!
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What's going on with Bitfury & this EmerCoin scam now? Does anyone know details?
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January 14, 2018, 11:55:19 AM
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Now that Hashcoins/Hashflare/Emercoin have scammed 100's of investors for 1000's of BTC it looks like they are now looking for something to spend their ill-gotten gains on & are probably using the stolen funds to buy hardware from Bitfury?

Whatever they're up to - it's another scam for sure.

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January 15, 2018, 08:19:31 PM
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Please, sell out this scam coin ASAP! Now is great chance to dump out this scam, and exchange to real Bitcoin!
Contact trader in the Telegramm: @k_amantidis
And he'll buy huge lot from you by current pumped market price!

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