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January 17, 2018, 09:09:37 AM
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Please, sell out this scam coin ASAP! Now is great chance to dump out this scam, and exchange to real Bitcoin!
Contact trader in the Telegramm: @k_amantidis
And he'll buy huge lot from you by current pumped market price!


 I should of sold it.
I bought 50 PLBS for $500 valued at $300 now.
Darn
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January 17, 2018, 09:57:54 AM
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Cost Polybius went up 2 weeks ago before the market fell. However, after ICO passed almost a year, and they did not do anything at all. It's not really a scam. They just do not do anything and the price does not grow. And the faith of investors also falls and the credibility of the project itself.
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January 26, 2018, 03:06:18 PM
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Polybius is going to Brussels!

The first month of the new year is coming to an end, so it's time to share new results of our work and the long-awaited January news - Polybius opens an office in the city of chocolate and international conventions, Brussels.
The choice in favor of Belgium and in particular Brussels was made because of the close proximity to the headquarters of the main institutions of the European Union, and also because of the incredibly attractive dynamics of the Benelux banking market for our project. The successful work of Polybius as a financial institution directly depends on European directives and regulations, in particular PSD2 and eIDAS . Their development is in full swing and will continue through 2018, which is why there can be no better place for the office than at the very epicenter of the new regulations.

Choosing a place to open an office, we started buying all domains in the zones in which we will work, and in whose languages ​​we will offer services.

Having determined the jurisdiction, we also accelerate the expansion of the team of our specialists. In January, the team was joined by Head of Platform and Innovation , who, like no other, understands how to build a modern digital business. The decision to join Polybius was taken after acquaintance with our business model and ambitions. At the moment, he is working on a Belgian global corporation, where he deals with the digitalization of processes. The transition of one of the key elements of the company is a slow process, but we expect that it will take no more than three months. We make every effort to minimize this period as much as possible.

The selection of people in the Polybius team is one of our main priorities. At the moment, we continue to search for three more members of the team - the STO , Head of Legal & Regulatory and Head of Communications - and we are developing DigitalPass and working with partners who will audit the financial statements for 2017, which includes ICO fees.

We until the last expected that we would announce the name of the CEO in mid-January, but there were working and legal moments on the side of Credit Suisse, which will take about a month to resolve. Fortunately, this will not affect the development of the project in any way - lawyers, developers and HR agencies are already engaged in their work, and we are planning to announce the long-awaited name of the CEO by February 20 . In addition to the announcement of the CEO's title, by the end of February we are going to finalize the preparation of MVP DigitalPass, for which we are already developing a frontend and private blockade. In the next months, we will pass a closed test, after which we will begin integrating DigitalPass into our services. Unfortunately, due to the need to patent all the technologies we create, we can not yet disclose the technical details of the development.

https://cryptor.net/news/polibius-edet-v-bryussel-470
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January 26, 2018, 10:57:26 PM
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**snip the BS**

Why are you posting this crap in one of their many scam threads? Go post it in their official thread....oh wait, you can't because moderators deleted it.  Roll Eyes

Shill.

GameCredits Unofficial: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254720.0   Funniest/stupidest shit list thread ever:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1064824.msg20344174#msg20344174 - The ultimate example of trust abuse by exposed scammer craslovell...
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January 28, 2018, 09:09:10 PM
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I congratulate those who managed to sell PLBT in zero. You can even find in this a some consolation. At least if it was the fiat currency in start ICO, then you successfully bought the crypto currency without a fee. Although it's anyway sad.
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January 28, 2018, 09:13:19 PM
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Thank you for the warning, is good that this forum serves also to expose scams. Just an advice, try to make it shorter and state more clearly why is a scam. Then is fine to provide proof, again, orderly.
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If you do not want believe - please try it with trust me! Later you will maybe come and say thank you.*
first im not involved or invested in Polybius or Emercoin in any way, i just find that thread a few days ago and i found some really open and easy to see aspects that this is a new Scam-Giant from the devs of the proofen scam Hashcoins.I have nothing from degrade a kindly fair company - nothing. So think about why i should say all this, if it isn't the truth in my opinion and others.This is so extremly obv. that i was shocked after i see how many people do believe in this and put much money into it.Also i see many fake accounts pushing that and try to give it a real feeling.Here is everything i found so far.So i want to use this thread for warning, discussion and proofs about the Polybius & Emercoin scam.
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February 09, 2018, 02:48:45 PM
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Please, sell out this scam coin ASAP! Now is great chance to dump out this scam, and exchange to real Bitcoin!
Contact trader in the Telegramm: @k_amantidis
And he'll buy huge lot from you by current pumped market price!

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*If you do not want believe - please try it with trust me! Later you will maybe come and say thank you.*

Hi,

first im not involved or invested in Polybius or Emercoin in any way, i just find that thread a few days ago and i found some really open and easy to see aspects that this is a new Scam-Giant from the devs of the proofen scam Hashcoins.

I have nothing from degrade a kindly fair company - nothing. So think about why i should say all this, if it isn't the truth in my opinion and others.

This is so extremly obv. that i was shocked after i see how many people do believe in this and put much money into it.

Also i see many fake accounts pushing that and try to give it a real feeling.

Here is everything i found so far.

So i want to use this thread for warning, discussion and proofs about the Polybius & Emercoin scam.
I just copy some qoutes and pls read this and check it for yourself.



Here is a very indepth scam investigation posted on a Russian blog that exposes the Hashcoins/Polybius scam for what it is:

Original Russian version:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GZzOZ5WSs9AJ:https://bitnovosti.com/2017/05/29/radi-bitcoyna-ostanovite-eto/%2Bradi-bitcoyna-ostanovite-eto&newwindow=1&gbv=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

Google translated version:

https://translate.google.com/translate?u=https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search%3Fq%3Dcache:GZzOZ5WSs9AJ:https://bitnovosti.com/2017/05/29/radi-bitcoyna-ostanovite-eto/%252Bradi-bitcoyna-ostanovite-eto%26newwindow%3D1%26gbv%3D1%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk

As the report states, Hashcoins somehow got the original post deleted (payment or legal threats?) but thanks to the webz we can still access it.

Enjoy Smiley



https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/04/25/blockchain-startup-polybius-bank-setup-switzerland-ernst-young-agrees-advise/amp/

Is this True?

Is polybius Backed/advised by ernst&young?
If this is True- it cant be Scam! This is awsome. <3


I hope you're all aware that the Hashcoins crew are behind this ICO.

The same Hashcoins who stole 1000's off of forum members by selling mining hardware that doesn't exist.

https://s12.postimg.org/t4j1mhwlp/HC1.pngfree photo hosting

Not a single item delivered.

Then they abandoned their thread:     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.msg19333790#msg19333790

The same Hashcoins are doing numerous ICO's on this forum.

https://s30.postimg.org/kovjkjy7l/image.pngimage ru

Research & use due diligence before throwing your hard earned cash at these people. If you are comfortable giving your money to these proven scammers, go ahead.

Just a friendly FYI. Good luck.


"Powered by HASHCOINS"

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Another quote:
just newbies reviews

Yup - shill accounts from the Hashcoins/Hashflare/Polybius/Emercoin/Chronobank "Team".

A quote from the Emercoin thread FYI:



No I am not a spokesman for Oleg, I'm a spokesman for logic and reason.


Right. So you think that it's logical & reasonable to advertise, promote, endorse, defend & link to a proven scam company like hashcoins on your website & your thread then.  Got it.


You have no proof to back your accusation of Polybius being a scam, otherwise you'd have presented it.


The proof is on their website, it presents itself.

https://polybius.io/#team

That polybius "Team" are the same hashcoins "Team" who scammed customers for 1000's selling vapourware. Guess who's also on that list - good old Oleg Khovayko Blockchain CTO, Emercoin. He crops up quite a lot actually, along with a few other recognisable Hashcoins/Hashflare/Chronobank/Emercoin/Polybius profiles. Of course, Emercoin & Polybius are also advertised by these Hashcoins scammers, & it's no surprise that Polybius advertise Emercoin & Hashcoins also - is that some back scratching or because it's the same people I wonder....

Let's break it down & make it easier for you, open the following web pages in different tabs:

https://www.hashcoins.com/management
https://hashflare.io/team/
https://polybius.io/#team
https://emercoin.com/team

Apart from the obvious similarities in the website layouts, the same profiles crop up over & over again on each site, proving that the same people are behind them. This is not "FUD" as you call it - it is fact & it is displayed on the websites for all to see.

Oh, and who's involved with all of them?  You guessed it - Emercoin dev Oleg Khovayko.  Don't even think about denying it - it's there for all to see.


Total USD: 19,527,830$
Participants: 17269


That's not an answer - just numbers.

Wait - WHAT!?

So those lying, cheating, thieving scumbags Hashcoins have reared their scammy heads again & are pushing another scam under a different name eh? WTF!!!!

Those motherf*ckers disappeared years ago with everyone's money - now they're back pushing another scam thinking everyone's forgotten about it?  NOT A CHANCE!

Look at all the noob shill accounts they're using to avoid using their real Hashcoins account, not to mention the BS numbers they keep posting - unf*ckingbelievable - what a joke those c*nts are.

ANYONE & EVERYONE - DO NOT GIVE HASHCOINS/POLYBIUS A SINGLE CENT, YOU WILL NEVER SEE IT AGAIN. GET YOUR MONEY BACK NOW BEFORE THEY RUN OFF WITH IT AGAIN.

I can assure you this is another Hashcoins scam - GET OUT NOW!!!


Frankly, I do not see the point of your warnings here. The necessary amount has already been collected - and you can not do anything and have no influence whatsoever ...

What? Every single second this is running forward more people lose more money. Thats extremly annoying that u easy can see whats going on, but you dont want to see.





An other point:
Here is very important document: http://www.fi.ee/public/hoiatusteated/20170606_Hoiatusteade_Polybius.pdf

Translation: https://translate.google.pl/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fi.ee%2Fpublic%2Fhoiatusteated%2F20170606_Hoiatusteade_Polybius.pdf&edit-text=

This shows that marketing is stronger then sober thinking.

A real banking project has to have real experience, with at least Payment Institution license with confirmations of that. Hope, soon, there will be a project that will bring a legal solution with full transparency. Not only marketing.


I will open a thread for this.


And here also the answer from my mailing with Ernest and Young:
(It's german)

"vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage. Wie Sie schon zurecht in Erwägung gezogen haben, stimmt die von Ihnen beigefügte Nachricht nicht. EY  (Ernst & Young) stand und steht mit Polybius Cryptobank in keinerlei Geschäftsverhältnis. EY hat Polybius bereits aufgefordert, anderslautende Informationen von der Website des Unternehmens zu entfernen.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Dag-Stefan Rittmeister
"


Just translating the German text to English:
"Thank you for your request. As you already thought the message you attached is wrong. EY  (Ernst & Young) does not and has never had a business relation with Polybius Cryptobank. EY already requested Polybius zo remove different informations from their website.

Best regards
Dag-Stefan Rittmeister"


I found a very interesting recording of a telephone interview with Daniel Haudenschild, who is described as a Partner to Ernst & Young on their website (https://webforms.ey.com/ch/en/industries/financial-services/ey-contact-implementing-new-regulatory-requirements), on Soundcloud dated 6th June 2017, just after this Hashcoins/Polybius ICO scam started. The interviwee is a long time Bitcoin adopter & is very knowledgable in the field - this comes across very clearly in the interview with the questions he asks, which Daniel Haudenschild fails on all fronts to give an answer to.  Have a listen (ignore the first 30 seconds of silly music!):

https://soundcloud.com/junsethsworld/daniel-haudenschild-of-ernst-young-discusses-polybius-ico-6617-1151

There are several points of interest in the interview, here are a few that are relevent to this scam accusation:

1) 04.35 - Hashcoins confirmed as the people behind Polybius.
2) 06.30 - They don't hold a banking license.
3) 07.40 - Daniel Haudenschild admits that even he doesn't know who owns Polybius, which is not only strange coming from an "advisor" who works for Ernst & Young, but is also not disclosed in the white paper.
4) 09.10 - Ernst & Young did NOT endorse Polybius in any way & actions are underway to remove any Ernst & Young connection with Polybius. (*more on this below)
5) 09.30 - Hashcoins are a cludmining brand who sold miners that didn't exist.
6) 09.50 - Emercoin confirmed as partners & are described as a "non-sense project" SmileySmiley (confirming the connection between Polybius, Hashcoins & Emercoin - which Emercoin have tried to deny on multiple occasions, despite me proving to them otherwise)

After the above & for the rest of the interview, Daniel Haudenschild seems unable to properly answer a single question, is often confused into silence & comes across as being pretty embarrassed about the whole thing. He must feel pretty stupid allowing not just himself, but the whole Ernst & Young brand name to be dragged into this whole scammy affair & I wouldn't be at all surprised if he loses his job at Ernst & Young for doing so.....

Wait, what's this?.......**MASSIVE UPDATE**

Daniel Haudenschild lost his job at Ernst & Young......SmileySmiley

FT published a transcript of the above interview:

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2017/06/07/2189826/building-blockchain-banks-with-icos/    (regtoread)

Updated at the bottom with:

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Update (June 8th, 18:43 London time): EY have got in touch to say that “At publication of this story, Daniel Haudenschild is no longer with EY and his comments concerning EY’s Blockchain strategy are incorrect.”

*Ernst & Young have since instructed Polybius to remove all reference of Ernst & Young from the Polybius website & advertising. Polybius removed the Ernst & Young profiles from their website but continue to use it for advertising on various forums, websites & so called "news" outlets on the web:

https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/05/15/swiss-ey-officially-joins-polybius-cryptobank-advisors-ico-follow/

https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/04/25/blockchain-startup-polybius-bank-setup-switzerland-ernst-young-agrees-advise/

If Ernst & Young are prepared to fire anyone who associates their brand with Polybius, I'm pretty sure they will also go after Hashcoins/Polybius too. I hope they do, it will save many people getting ripped of by Hashcoins again, but you can do your bit too by contacting Ernst & Young using the below link (Fraud Investigation):

https://webforms.ey.com/uk/en/services/assurance/fraud-investigation---dispute-services

Let's be honest here, if Polybius are prepared to lie about their association with Ernst & Young then brag about it on the web - what else are they lying about? Add to this the fact that Hashcoins (older crypto users will know about them) are behind all of this & you've got a scam the size of Mt Etna waiting to explode.

Another point to mention here is the OP of the Polybius thread, nixoid, aka: Andrey Zamovskiy, founder of Ambisafe. nixoid has posted many ICO posts lately & I've read reports on most of them being a similar type scam as Polybius. I'm not sure if Ambisafe are connected to Hashcoins/Polybius - but the fact that Ambisafe are promoting them here & on their website is cause enough for concern:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848751.msg19734730#msg19734730

All these scam ICO's are the scurge of crypto. For every legit one, there are 100 scam ones. The sooner we cleanse crypto of them, the better crypto will be for it.

I'm sure I'll get more BS neg-reps from the multitude of Polybius shill accounts (they love posting about it on their thread:)), but I really don't care tbh. I believe that if I can stop one person getting scammed then it's worth it - & the intelligent forum users here will see straight through the false trust anyway.

OK. Bash away Smiley


EmerCoin is from the same organisation.

They are associated with hashcoins which never delivered any miners to there buyers
hashcoins is a cloud mining site
which is another red flag

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.820
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362513.msg15540242#msg15540242
emercoin is not to be trusted
fake testimonials in hashcoins website
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.msg16172367#msg16172367
hashcoins exit scam proof
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059735.20
proof of being associated

https://s7.postimg.org/wi29j6j6j/ENAA.png

99% Polybius is a scam . Centralized Bank LOL no one needs that they are just selling hopium
Estonia will never give a license for bitcoin bank
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4efdam/estonia_now_officially_worst_country_in_eu_for/

https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-exchange-forced-move-estonia-supreme-court-decision/

http://blog.instantscamalert.com/2014/12/hashcoin-review.html


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=218926
go reviews which are untrusted and see


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1851039.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438135.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1040702.0
after this if they are asking for money again , I am sure it is a scam




http://up.picr.de/29509311dq.jpg

http://up.picr.de/29509312xt.jpg

http://up.picr.de/29509313pv.jpg




Sure we can find more, but for me the fact that the same people from Hashcoin team are part of the Polybius team makes me scary enought that i wouldn't recommend to put money into Polybius & EmerCoin!





Here a list of users i believe that are involved or fake accounts to publish and move forward this scam organisation:

- FreakSeaker Makes a few posts about saying anything about Eth and Waves defs and just say Emercoin is great - makes no sense

- mzn brand new poster in polybius thread like a old known boy - just created to push the buisness and keep everything cool

- b080180d 62/62 posts about polybius and in polybius thread - repeat every post that say scam and try to push it away




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February 10, 2018, 08:08:54 PM
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Many FUD during the ICO and the team was able to raise significant amount of money then, and since then I have not seen much from the team, banking is a very tricky thing but because Estonia Government is very friendly to fintech they are hiding in the company, they need to come out and justify the fund thay collected during the ICO, most of the people that invested in the ICO are now in red
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*If you do not want believe - please try it with trust me! Later you will maybe come and say thank you.*

Hi,

first im not involved or invested in Polybius or Emercoin in any way, i just find that thread a few days ago and i found some really open and easy to see aspects that this is a new Scam-Giant from the devs of the proofen scam Hashcoins.

I have nothing from degrade a kindly fair company - nothing. So think about why i should say all this, if it isn't the truth in my opinion and others.

This is so extremly obv. that i was shocked after i see how many people do believe in this and put much money into it.

Also i see many fake accounts pushing that and try to give it a real feeling.

Here is everything i found so far.

So i want to use this thread for warning, discussion and proofs about the Polybius & Emercoin scam.
I just copy some qoutes and pls read this and check it for yourself.



Here is a very indepth scam investigation posted on a Russian blog that exposes the Hashcoins/Polybius scam for what it is:

Original Russian version:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GZzOZ5WSs9AJ:https://bitnovosti.com/2017/05/29/radi-bitcoyna-ostanovite-eto/%2Bradi-bitcoyna-ostanovite-eto&newwindow=1&gbv=1&hl=en&ct=clnk

Google translated version:

https://translate.google.com/translate?u=https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search%3Fq%3Dcache:GZzOZ5WSs9AJ:https://bitnovosti.com/2017/05/29/radi-bitcoyna-ostanovite-eto/%252Bradi-bitcoyna-ostanovite-eto%26newwindow%3D1%26gbv%3D1%26hl%3Den%26ct%3Dclnk

As the report states, Hashcoins somehow got the original post deleted (payment or legal threats?) but thanks to the webz we can still access it.

Enjoy Smiley



https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/04/25/blockchain-startup-polybius-bank-setup-switzerland-ernst-young-agrees-advise/amp/

Is this True?

Is polybius Backed/advised by ernst&young?
If this is True- it cant be Scam! This is awsome. <3


I hope you're all aware that the Hashcoins crew are behind this ICO.

The same Hashcoins who stole 1000's off of forum members by selling mining hardware that doesn't exist.

https://s12.postimg.org/t4j1mhwlp/HC1.pngfree photo hosting

Not a single item delivered.

Then they abandoned their thread:     https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.msg19333790#msg19333790

The same Hashcoins are doing numerous ICO's on this forum.

https://s30.postimg.org/kovjkjy7l/image.pngimage ru

Research & use due diligence before throwing your hard earned cash at these people. If you are comfortable giving your money to these proven scammers, go ahead.

Just a friendly FYI. Good luck.


"Powered by HASHCOINS"

*close


Another quote:
just newbies reviews

Yup - shill accounts from the Hashcoins/Hashflare/Polybius/Emercoin/Chronobank "Team".

A quote from the Emercoin thread FYI:



No I am not a spokesman for Oleg, I'm a spokesman for logic and reason.


Right. So you think that it's logical & reasonable to advertise, promote, endorse, defend & link to a proven scam company like hashcoins on your website & your thread then.  Got it.


You have no proof to back your accusation of Polybius being a scam, otherwise you'd have presented it.


The proof is on their website, it presents itself.

https://polybius.io/#team

That polybius "Team" are the same hashcoins "Team" who scammed customers for 1000's selling vapourware. Guess who's also on that list - good old Oleg Khovayko Blockchain CTO, Emercoin. He crops up quite a lot actually, along with a few other recognisable Hashcoins/Hashflare/Chronobank/Emercoin/Polybius profiles. Of course, Emercoin & Polybius are also advertised by these Hashcoins scammers, & it's no surprise that Polybius advertise Emercoin & Hashcoins also - is that some back scratching or because it's the same people I wonder....

Let's break it down & make it easier for you, open the following web pages in different tabs:

https://www.hashcoins.com/management
https://hashflare.io/team/
https://polybius.io/#team
https://emercoin.com/team

Apart from the obvious similarities in the website layouts, the same profiles crop up over & over again on each site, proving that the same people are behind them. This is not "FUD" as you call it - it is fact & it is displayed on the websites for all to see.

Oh, and who's involved with all of them?  You guessed it - Emercoin dev Oleg Khovayko.  Don't even think about denying it - it's there for all to see.


Total USD: 19,527,830$
Participants: 17269


That's not an answer - just numbers.

Wait - WHAT!?

So those lying, cheating, thieving scumbags Hashcoins have reared their scammy heads again & are pushing another scam under a different name eh? WTF!!!!

Those motherf*ckers disappeared years ago with everyone's money - now they're back pushing another scam thinking everyone's forgotten about it?  NOT A CHANCE!

Look at all the noob shill accounts they're using to avoid using their real Hashcoins account, not to mention the BS numbers they keep posting - unf*ckingbelievable - what a joke those c*nts are.

ANYONE & EVERYONE - DO NOT GIVE HASHCOINS/POLYBIUS A SINGLE CENT, YOU WILL NEVER SEE IT AGAIN. GET YOUR MONEY BACK NOW BEFORE THEY RUN OFF WITH IT AGAIN.

I can assure you this is another Hashcoins scam - GET OUT NOW!!!


Frankly, I do not see the point of your warnings here. The necessary amount has already been collected - and you can not do anything and have no influence whatsoever ...

What? Every single second this is running forward more people lose more money. Thats extremly annoying that u easy can see whats going on, but you dont want to see.





An other point:
Here is very important document: http://www.fi.ee/public/hoiatusteated/20170606_Hoiatusteade_Polybius.pdf

Translation: https://translate.google.pl/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pl&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fi.ee%2Fpublic%2Fhoiatusteated%2F20170606_Hoiatusteade_Polybius.pdf&edit-text=

This shows that marketing is stronger then sober thinking.

A real banking project has to have real experience, with at least Payment Institution license with confirmations of that. Hope, soon, there will be a project that will bring a legal solution with full transparency. Not only marketing.


I will open a thread for this.


And here also the answer from my mailing with Ernest and Young:
(It's german)

"vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage. Wie Sie schon zurecht in Erwägung gezogen haben, stimmt die von Ihnen beigefügte Nachricht nicht. EY  (Ernst & Young) stand und steht mit Polybius Cryptobank in keinerlei Geschäftsverhältnis. EY hat Polybius bereits aufgefordert, anderslautende Informationen von der Website des Unternehmens zu entfernen.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Dag-Stefan Rittmeister
"


Just translating the German text to English:
"Thank you for your request. As you already thought the message you attached is wrong. EY  (Ernst & Young) does not and has never had a business relation with Polybius Cryptobank. EY already requested Polybius zo remove different informations from their website.

Best regards
Dag-Stefan Rittmeister"


I found a very interesting recording of a telephone interview with Daniel Haudenschild, who is described as a Partner to Ernst & Young on their website (https://webforms.ey.com/ch/en/industries/financial-services/ey-contact-implementing-new-regulatory-requirements), on Soundcloud dated 6th June 2017, just after this Hashcoins/Polybius ICO scam started. The interviwee is a long time Bitcoin adopter & is very knowledgable in the field - this comes across very clearly in the interview with the questions he asks, which Daniel Haudenschild fails on all fronts to give an answer to.  Have a listen (ignore the first 30 seconds of silly music!):

https://soundcloud.com/junsethsworld/daniel-haudenschild-of-ernst-young-discusses-polybius-ico-6617-1151

There are several points of interest in the interview, here are a few that are relevent to this scam accusation:

1) 04.35 - Hashcoins confirmed as the people behind Polybius.
2) 06.30 - They don't hold a banking license.
3) 07.40 - Daniel Haudenschild admits that even he doesn't know who owns Polybius, which is not only strange coming from an "advisor" who works for Ernst & Young, but is also not disclosed in the white paper.
4) 09.10 - Ernst & Young did NOT endorse Polybius in any way & actions are underway to remove any Ernst & Young connection with Polybius. (*more on this below)
5) 09.30 - Hashcoins are a cludmining brand who sold miners that didn't exist.
6) 09.50 - Emercoin confirmed as partners & are described as a "non-sense project" SmileySmiley (confirming the connection between Polybius, Hashcoins & Emercoin - which Emercoin have tried to deny on multiple occasions, despite me proving to them otherwise)

After the above & for the rest of the interview, Daniel Haudenschild seems unable to properly answer a single question, is often confused into silence & comes across as being pretty embarrassed about the whole thing. He must feel pretty stupid allowing not just himself, but the whole Ernst & Young brand name to be dragged into this whole scammy affair & I wouldn't be at all surprised if he loses his job at Ernst & Young for doing so.....

Wait, what's this?.......**MASSIVE UPDATE**

Daniel Haudenschild lost his job at Ernst & Young......SmileySmiley

FT published a transcript of the above interview:

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2017/06/07/2189826/building-blockchain-banks-with-icos/    (regtoread)

Updated at the bottom with:

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Update (June 8th, 18:43 London time): EY have got in touch to say that “At publication of this story, Daniel Haudenschild is no longer with EY and his comments concerning EY’s Blockchain strategy are incorrect.”

*Ernst & Young have since instructed Polybius to remove all reference of Ernst & Young from the Polybius website & advertising. Polybius removed the Ernst & Young profiles from their website but continue to use it for advertising on various forums, websites & so called "news" outlets on the web:

https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/05/15/swiss-ey-officially-joins-polybius-cryptobank-advisors-ico-follow/

https://www.cryptoninjas.net/2017/04/25/blockchain-startup-polybius-bank-setup-switzerland-ernst-young-agrees-advise/

If Ernst & Young are prepared to fire anyone who associates their brand with Polybius, I'm pretty sure they will also go after Hashcoins/Polybius too. I hope they do, it will save many people getting ripped of by Hashcoins again, but you can do your bit too by contacting Ernst & Young using the below link (Fraud Investigation):

https://webforms.ey.com/uk/en/services/assurance/fraud-investigation---dispute-services

Let's be honest here, if Polybius are prepared to lie about their association with Ernst & Young then brag about it on the web - what else are they lying about? Add to this the fact that Hashcoins (older crypto users will know about them) are behind all of this & you've got a scam the size of Mt Etna waiting to explode.

Another point to mention here is the OP of the Polybius thread, nixoid, aka: Andrey Zamovskiy, founder of Ambisafe. nixoid has posted many ICO posts lately & I've read reports on most of them being a similar type scam as Polybius. I'm not sure if Ambisafe are connected to Hashcoins/Polybius - but the fact that Ambisafe are promoting them here & on their website is cause enough for concern:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848751.msg19734730#msg19734730

All these scam ICO's are the scurge of crypto. For every legit one, there are 100 scam ones. The sooner we cleanse crypto of them, the better crypto will be for it.

I'm sure I'll get more BS neg-reps from the multitude of Polybius shill accounts (they love posting about it on their thread:)), but I really don't care tbh. I believe that if I can stop one person getting scammed then it's worth it - & the intelligent forum users here will see straight through the false trust anyway.

OK. Bash away Smiley


EmerCoin is from the same organisation.

They are associated with hashcoins which never delivered any miners to there buyers
hashcoins is a cloud mining site
which is another red flag

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.820
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362513.msg15540242#msg15540242
emercoin is not to be trusted
fake testimonials in hashcoins website
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=417623.msg16172367#msg16172367
hashcoins exit scam proof
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059735.20
proof of being associated

https://s7.postimg.org/wi29j6j6j/ENAA.png

99% Polybius is a scam . Centralized Bank LOL no one needs that they are just selling hopium
Estonia will never give a license for bitcoin bank
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4efdam/estonia_now_officially_worst_country_in_eu_for/

https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-exchange-forced-move-estonia-supreme-court-decision/

http://blog.instantscamalert.com/2014/12/hashcoin-review.html


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=218926
go reviews which are untrusted and see


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1851039.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=438135.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1040702.0
after this if they are asking for money again , I am sure it is a scam




http://up.picr.de/29509311dq.jpg

http://up.picr.de/29509312xt.jpg

http://up.picr.de/29509313pv.jpg




Sure we can find more, but for me the fact that the same people from Hashcoin team are part of the Polybius team makes me scary enought that i wouldn't recommend to put money into Polybius & EmerCoin!





Here a list of users i believe that are involved or fake accounts to publish and move forward this scam organisation:

- FreakSeaker Makes a few posts about saying anything about Eth and Waves defs and just say Emercoin is great - makes no sense

- mzn brand new poster in polybius thread like a old known boy - just created to push the buisness and keep everything cool

- b080180d 62/62 posts about polybius and in polybius thread - repeat every post that say scam and try to push it away




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Bumping this to remind the community that Hashcoins/Hashflare/Emercoin/Polybius is a scam.

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Yeah, yeah, Emercoin is a scam, of course!

1. This scam has existed since 2013, and steadily grows by ~400% each year:
https://medium.com/@emer.tech/emercoin-2017-results-42bbc18b136e

2. This scam is used by Russian Railways to notarize cargo area status:
https://etpgp.rzd.ru/#news

3. This scam is used by Deloitte (on of big four auditors) in their product DOCSENSUS:
https://www.econotimes.com/Deloitte-demonstrates-new-solution-for-electronic-document-flow-based-on-Emercoin-blockchain-605619

4. This scam is used by grands from the Telecom industry:
http://ezuce.com/ezuce-emercoin-speed-adoption-blockchain-phone-video-services/
https://www.portaone.com/success-stories/portaone-emercoin-blockchain

5. And, this scam is used by Coca-Cola and U.S. State department:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-blockchain-coca-cola-labor/coca-cola-u-s-state-dept-to-use-blockchain-to-combat-forced-labor-idUSKCN1GS2PY

With these 5 points proving strong and undeniable evidence of Emercoin being a total scam!

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Yeah, yeah, Emercoin is a scam, of course!

Hello Oleg!

Still "advising" the Polybius scam are you? You know, the one that moderators here deleted? You & Eugene must have made a killing on that one, especially after all the promo work he done for them on medium on behalf of Emercoin.

Still advertising & working for Hashcoins are you? You know, the same Hashcoins who's entire thread has been moved to the scam section?

You're a busy little man aren't you.

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MORE EVIDENCE ON SCAM (NEW!!!)

me -> Turns on computer Windows 98

me -> Goes to a trash website built on php

me -> Screams that EmerCoin is a scam at the top of my lungs

me -> Pukes on the fucking keyboard

me -> Posts it

me -> Does this everyday

This is my life, jealous?

Despite there being no evidence (literally none), we, the dumb investors who sold all our emercoins a long time ago and now regret it because of how much profit we could of made if only we had kept on to them, and weren't just a bunch of greedy monkeys on a treadmill.

Do you want to prove me wrong? go ahead, but please do not reply to this if you dont have actual evidence that backs up any of your retarded and irrelevant claims, and no, a fake article that you wrote does not count as evidence, sorry.

I would also like to note that nobody in the emercoin team makes any major profit, as they dont sell their emercoins, or claim that it is set to grow and that you should invest in it/buy it from them, like bitconnect did

Total evidence proving emercoin is a scam: you guys screaming that it is

Total evidence proving your point, or backing up your claims: wait where is it?
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Many project are scam project. Be careful to invest in it. There are also legit project.
This is very importand that trusted people show newbies and unknown that this whole project is obv a scam and do not will deliver what they promise.
Everybody who spend money into this cant say he do not know this after they scam and run away
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> Hello Oleg!

Hi blurryeyed (and maybe other accounts owner).

> Still "advising" the Polybius scam are you?

Your question is like: Have you stopped drinking cognac in the morning?

Your question already assumes "Polybius is a scam". This is not a fact. The token still exists, and trading on the market. The site still exists, too.
I really do not know, what is happening with them, since I do not have any interests in that business.
Yes, I am technical adviser of them.
And several times suggested their CTO, Nikolay Pavlovskiy, some technical solutions about cybersecurity and notarization, based on Emercoin blockchain.
And we together developed some IT architectures for future bank. And this is my role as adviser, and no more.
I do not control that business, do not have any interest in that, and do not response about their possible success or fail.
Maybe you know, 80% of regular startups fails in 3 years? Investing in startup - is normal business-risk.
Polybius has risks, as same other startup as. But, to blame the project as a "scam", you must prove intentional malice. I don't know any.

Anyway - since I am not participate in that startup, I do not responsible for their future. I did not got a penny from their ICO funds.

And I don't understand, why are you blame Emercoin as a scam, just based on your minds about Polybius.
Emercoin is not Polybius. Do you have facts, how Emercoin cheated someone? Please, share it here.


> You know, the one that moderators here deleted?

I don't know. But anyway, I don't understand, how deleting a moderator is related to Emercoin.

> You & Eugene must have made a killing on that one,

You accuse us - we killed moderator?! Are you serious?!

> especially after all the promo work he done for them on medium on behalf of Emercoin.

Maybe I do not understand something, but in my opinion, you are delirious.

> Still advertising & working for Hashcoins are you?

I never advertising and working for Hashcoins. maybe you are confusing me with someone?

> You know, the same Hashcoins who's entire thread has been moved to the scam section?

Don't know. And this is not interesting for me. Maybe moved. And - how does this relate in any way to me or Emercoin?

> You're a busy little man aren't you.

Yes, I'm busy. Very busy. Not a little. And why does this matter in any way?


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@Oleg:

I see your grasp of English is limited, let alone your typing skills, so it's probably better if you don't try to quote text you don't fully understand.....

Maybe that explains why you don't understand the mountain of evidence in the OP or quoted in the posts directly above yours, but I think you just choose to ignore it. Suggest you read it all again - if you still don't understand anything, ask me & I'll help you understand.

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I looked at your "evidence". These are links to questionable and prejudiced forum posts and articles. Where, for example, the criterion for assessing my qualifications is a wallpaper (background image) on the monitor, next to which I was once photographed. Thanks, it has been funny to read such "strong" evidences.

In addition, I see that your claims are directed to Hashcoins / Polibius. Well, how is Emercoin related to it?
I repeat the question: Whom, when and how wronged Emercoin?

Regarding English:
Yes, you're correct, English isn't my native language, and maybe I missed something. OK, I followed your hint, and did not provided citations here.

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To quote from your Hashcoins scam thread:

Nice to see that this thread has finally been moved to the scam section - thank you moderators.

Quoting this from the unofficial Polybius (Hashcoins) thread as it is relevant & I'm too lazy to type it out again:




Are these the people who do not write here anymore and do not deliver any updates?



Yes, but there are a few more people of interest who are heavily involved:



Meet Oleg. As you can see, he's the Emercoin CTO who is part of the Polybius team & also works for Hashcoins/Hashflare -it's basically the same group of scammers behind these & other scams.

Then there's Eugene Shumilov, Founder & CEO of Emercoin:



He spent a lot of time posting on Medium about how great Polybius was, even spattering his Emercoin logo with Polybius's in an effort to give it some credibility, but keeping quiet about the fact that he & his Hashcoins cronies were behind it all along:

https://medium.com/@emer.tech/polybius-bank-the-biggest-story-of-the-year-in-the-cryptocurrency-realm-634c9b1db57

Now meet Andrey Zamovsky & the Ambisafe crew:



Andrey Zamovsky uses a few aliases on BCT, but his main one is nixoid, which he uses to promote his scam ICO's on behalf of Ambisafe. He's been busy deleting most of his scam ICO announcements lately, but have a look at the clients list of ICO's on their webpage - almost every one of their coin ICO's listed there are confirmed scams or soon to be confirmed scams with many accusations against them:

https://www.ambisafe.co/customers/

You'll notice Polybius there too, who's official thread was also deleted by moderators here for obvious reasons.

In case anyone didn't know already, the official Hashcoins thread was recently moved from the hardware section to the scam section by BCT moderators, albeit about 2 or 3 years too late. Hashcoins are well known by the more experienced BCT members for their scams & had their official (& abandoned by Hashcoins btw) thread been moved to the scam section earlier then Polybius/Hashflare/Emercoin would never have gotten off the ground to scam newer, less experienced members. I would usually say "better late than never", but in this case it simply isn't - as many forum members have now been scammed by the Hashcoins/Hashflare/Polybius/Emercoin team.
I & many others posted many, many warnings about Polybius & the fact that Hashcoins/Hashflare/Emercoin were behind it & were not to be trusted - those who chose to ignore all those warnings & didn't do any research into Hashcoins shady history only have themselves to blame I'm afraid.


Wondering where all the Hashcoins/Hashflare/Polybius/Emercoin shills are........

As far as I can gather, all images are from the Polybius site - quite a few Emercoin members in there eh?

It's strange that you are now posting denials now that your Hashcoins/Polybius involvement has been exposed & both those threads have been confirmed as scams or deleted entirely - especially after repeatedly ignoring questions about it in your own Emercoin thread:

No comment from Oleg (maxihatop) on the Emercoin thread:

**Oleg online**

How about you Oleg - care to answer?

Emercoin and Polybius are NOT the same organization.

You can assure everyone that this is the case by removing the Hashcoins scammers link from your website. After all, linking to & promoting proven scammers like them on your website is bound to create suspicion - don't you think?

No comment?

Well, seeing as Eugene Shumilov - Founder and CEO of Emercoin - has been so busy promoting Polybius & Hashcoins on medium lately:

https://medium.com/@emer.tech/polybius-bank-the-biggest-story-of-the-year-in-the-cryptocurrency-realm-634c9b1db57

..I can't say I'm surprised you can't (or won't) answer.

So it's true that Emercoin & Hashcoins/Polybius are the same team then.

Thanks for clarifying.

**Oleg logs off**

Amazing. Not a single answer from a single member of the Emercoin/Hashcoins/Polybius team either here or on medium, but they have no problem posting to advertise themselves.....

Guilty.

Proof that Emercoin are Hashcoins are Polybius.

**helpful hint**   Click on the links & read carefully & slowly.

What other ICO scams are you & your Emercoin/Hashcoins team involved in?

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