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November 02, 2017, 01:09:25 AM
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Really I don't know if it can work or if it is a scam, I posted days or even weeks ago here to say that I still didn't get my tokens from the ICO. I invested my money and I still got nothing and noone from the team answered me... It is not normal that they are ignoring their investors, I would like to get my tokens please.

Thank you...

May be you must write to him in direction? In Slack or Telegram. it seems, that they are not active in this thread.

Maybe you're right but it is still not normal that I need to "chase" them to get what I paid for... They should at least read this thread from time to time and keep connected with their investors don't you think ?

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November 02, 2017, 09:13:58 AM
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Really I don't know if it can work or if it is a scam, I posted days or even weeks ago here to say that I still didn't get my tokens from the ICO. I invested my money and I still got nothing and noone from the team answered me... It is not normal that they are ignoring their investors, I would like to get my tokens please.

Thank you...

May be you must write to him in direction? In Slack or Telegram. it seems, that they are not active in this thread.

Maybe you're right but it is still not normal that I need to "chase" them to get what I paid for... They should at least read this thread from time to time and keep connected with their investors don't you think ?

I agree. Everybody knows that bitcointalk is a very popular source of information. They use it to promote the ICO and afterwards can not just ignore it because everything will lose value. Especially in an environment where a lot of people are very fast to scream 'scam', it is tricky not to be engaged with the investors...




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November 03, 2017, 06:13:38 AM
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guys the devs have not disappeared. They have been updating their Facebook page vigorously with good info and photos
Look at the people who attend their meetings. Do these people look like they would invest in a failing project? I think not.
Please be patient, I am sure great things will come out of Propy, just as they did with other projects in their infancy and thereafter one year later are 3-5 dollar coins.
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November 03, 2017, 07:18:27 AM
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guys the devs have not disappeared. They have been updating their Facebook page vigorously with good info and photos
Look at the people who attend their meetings. Do these people look like they would invest in a failing project? I think not.
Please be patient, I am sure great things will come out of Propy, just as they did with other projects in their infancy and thereafter one year later are 3-5 dollar coins.

If you say so. I think that many people want to know more about for example the first property bought on the blockchain or what with the Ukrainian government because during the ICO it seemed like a shure thing when they published this news that the token would skyrocket because developement would be faster than this...




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November 03, 2017, 08:56:02 AM
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What will you do in the case that you need to do some repairs to an investment?
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November 03, 2017, 11:37:44 AM
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I quit propy with losses, because of the team market behavior. They do not want to burn unsold tokens, and their feedback with community is one-sided. They already should show something to us, but instead they just talking at conferences, burning investors money on air travel. The need in such financing as they claimed at start is unreasonable. It seems they just relax and drink beverages. People, you really think ukrainian government have interest in blockchain project? Open your eyes, they have interest only in trading coal with occupied pro-russian donbas teritory.

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November 03, 2017, 01:21:23 PM
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I quit propy with losses, because of the team market behavior. They do not want to burn unsold tokens, and their feedback with community is one-sided. They already should show something to us, but instead they just talking at conferences, burning investors money on air travel. The need in such financing as they claimed at start is unreasonable. It seems they just relax and drink beverages. People, you really think ukrainian government have interest in blockchain project? Open your eyes, they have interest only in trading coal with occupied pro-russian donbas teritory.

I don't wont to abandon the project (or my money) yet but you have some points:
- what with the unsold tokens because burning them would increase the value of the project
- who is working on development while the team travels the world to all these conferences?
- are there offical agreements between PROPY and the Ukrainian government?

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November 03, 2017, 06:51:08 PM
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I did warn you all:


The OP of this thread, nixoid is as dodgy as hell. All he does is post new ICO's then disappears again. Look through his post history:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=244;sa=showPosts;start=0

He claims his name is Andrey Zamovskiy, founder of Ambisafe, representative (whatever that means) of propy.com & the owner of several online businesses:

http://bitmerch.com - **gone**  - domain for sale.

http://btc-dealer.com -  **gone**  - domain for sale.  Complaints of non-payments:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330397.0

Since starting up Ambisafe all he's done is log on, announce ICO's on BCT, log off again. No support. No questions answered. Nothing. Here's a list of them so far (english ones only, there are also some russian ones):

Inchain - **failed**    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1623519.2100

TaaS - **failed - confirmed scam**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1922777.80

BitCAD - **barely alive - multiple scam accusations**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1865997.420

Polybius - **ongoing - multiple scam accusations**:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848751.1700

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952266.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1971023.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1942398.msg19291453#msg19291453

OROCRYPT - **ongoing - for now** - be careful:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1925056.160

Orderbook - **latest attempt**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1980695.0

CryptoCarbon - **barely alive - multiple scam accusations**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1624142.20

Chronobank.io - **ongoing - make your own mind up** (No official ann on BCT from nixoid, but it is listed on ambisafe site)

CompCoin - ** new - many unanswered questions & zero info**  Not sure what it is tbh:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1965246.20

Ambisafe my arse. Ambiscam fits better.

And now this one.....lol

What's more, whenever he posts new ICO's a crowd of noob shill accounts seem to appear - beware.

drop it like it's hot.

Yet another Ambiscam fake ICO.

As an update to this, their ICO's for Polybius & Worldcore have now also been proven to be scams. They have abandoned those threads too - just like this one.....with more to follow.....

Stay away from any ICO's involving Ambisafe & their fake accounts!!

BEWARE OF AMBISAFE/HASHCOINS SCAM ICO's: Polybius, SRG, Propy, Cryptaur, Worldcore, Compcoin, Chronobank, Orocrypt, Orderbook, Taas, Crytocarbon, ESR-Wallet, Levelnet, Micromoney, etc, etc)
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November 04, 2017, 11:37:41 AM
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I did warn you all:


The OP of this thread, nixoid is as dodgy as hell. All he does is post new ICO's then disappears again. Look through his post history:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=244;sa=showPosts;start=0

He claims his name is Andrey Zamovskiy, founder of Ambisafe, representative (whatever that means) of propy.com & the owner of several online businesses:

http://bitmerch.com - **gone**  - domain for sale.

http://btc-dealer.com -  **gone**  - domain for sale.  Complaints of non-payments:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330397.0

Since starting up Ambisafe all he's done is log on, announce ICO's on BCT, log off again. No support. No questions answered. Nothing. Here's a list of them so far (english ones only, there are also some russian ones):

Inchain - **failed**    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1623519.2100

TaaS - **failed - confirmed scam**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1922777.80

BitCAD - **barely alive - multiple scam accusations**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1865997.420

Polybius - **ongoing - multiple scam accusations**:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848751.1700

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952266.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1971023.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1942398.msg19291453#msg19291453

OROCRYPT - **ongoing - for now** - be careful:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1925056.160

Orderbook - **latest attempt**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1980695.0

CryptoCarbon - **barely alive - multiple scam accusations**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1624142.20

Chronobank.io - **ongoing - make your own mind up** (No official ann on BCT from nixoid, but it is listed on ambisafe site)

CompCoin - ** new - many unanswered questions & zero info**  Not sure what it is tbh:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1965246.20

Ambisafe my arse. Ambiscam fits better.

And now this one.....lol

What's more, whenever he posts new ICO's a crowd of noob shill accounts seem to appear - beware.

drop it like it's hot.

Yet another Ambiscam fake ICO.

Hello! I'm with the Propy team working as a Community Manager.
Which aspect of Propy made you think is a scam?
Could you let us know for future references?
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November 04, 2017, 12:01:03 PM
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I agree that the team should also focus on the community, since it will be the community for a big part that will be enthousiastic about a project or about news before the price changes.

They cannot be on the forums every hour but just try to connect with the investors or answering certain questions / uncertainties would calm a lot of people down.





Sorry that we've been absent in Bitcointalk. The Community Managers are mostly focused in Telegram, FB and twitter.
If you join our TL channel there'll be a CM 24/7 if you need them.

https://t.me/propy

or you could just join in our news channel for announcements only

https://t.me/propy_news
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November 04, 2017, 12:16:39 PM
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I quit propy with losses, because of the team market behavior. They do not want to burn unsold tokens, and their feedback with community is one-sided. They already should show something to us, but instead they just talking at conferences, burning investors money on air travel. The need in such financing as they claimed at start is unreasonable. It seems they just relax and drink beverages. People, you really think ukrainian government have interest in blockchain project? Open your eyes, they have interest only in trading coal with occupied pro-russian donbas teritory.

I don't wont to abandon the project (or my money) yet but you have some points:
- what with the unsold tokens because burning them would increase the value of the project
- who is working on development while the team travels the world to all these conferences?
- are there offical agreements between PROPY and the Ukrainian government?

 Hello! I'm Akehurst from the Propy team. Here are some of my point of view on certain opinions.
Due the difference in nature between other IT and crypto-based project which can be fully open through github,
Real Estate has to be focused on Legislation and partnerships, legal issues. This is why the CEO and the marketers are
traveling conference to conference for the people that aren't familiar with crypto - especially large Real Estate firms - to recognize Propy.
So it would be a big understatement to say 'we're burning investors money'

 The Propy project itself was planned before 2015 and has been working hard ever since. The MOU and the first transaction with the
Ukrainian government was a part of the beta phase, Proving that our system is legit. We're currently talking with the US, Dubai and China.
And also firms from UK is in the picture and the gov't officials in South Korea also took notice.


1. Simply burning the tokens not in circulation does not increase the 'value' of the project. It might temporarily boost up the price
of the token due to the hype and market logic, but it wouldn't do anything more than harm the project - as seen in the case of Trigger.
the distribution of the tokens was planned at the beginning of the project and all of them have specific purposes.
If we suddenly change that blueprint, it might even invoke to other investors that the team isn't confident about their decision.
But about the unsold 20mil in the tokensale have other plans undecided as of now. Stay tuned.

2. The whole team isn't on the move. The dev team lead by our CTO Alex, is working on the development part, and the CEO Natalie
and the marketing team is on the move for the conferences. The latest was the Devcon 3 at Cancun, and next stop will be Dubai WEF.

3. Official MOU with Ukrania was announced prior ICO. We currently have MOU with Chinese Real Estate fiem LeJu and have been
talking with Vermont, California, and Dubai for quite some time. These things take lots of time and effort.


If you have any other questions join our TL channel there'll be a CM 24/7 if you need them.

https://t.me/propy

or you could just join in our news channel for announcements only

https://t.me/propy_news
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November 04, 2017, 12:31:34 PM
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What will you do in the case that you need to do some repairs to an investment?

When you're buying a Real Estate property through Propy, you can choose whether or not to use a third party inspector
to look through the said investment for any flaws. If an imperfection is found, you could reflect this into the purchasing price.
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November 04, 2017, 12:56:42 PM
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Really I don't know if it can work or if it is a scam, I posted days or even weeks ago here to say that I still didn't get my tokens from the ICO. I invested my money and I still got nothing and noone from the team answered me... It is not normal that they are ignoring their investors, I would like to get my tokens please.

Thank you...

May be you must write to him in direction? In Slack or Telegram. it seems, that they are not active in this thread.

Maybe you're right but it is still not normal that I need to "chase" them to get what I paid for... They should at least read this thread from time to time and keep connected with their investors don't you think ?

The Propy ICO was done through the partnership with 'Orderbook.io'. It works as an exchange focused on ICO's.
Thus you should log into orderbook.io using the information you used during the ICO and withdraw your PRO tokens from there
to your private wallet. Thank You!
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November 04, 2017, 06:00:11 PM
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Thank you Akehurst for addressing the concerns on the forum. Hopefully a lot of people will also read them instead of posting 'scam' in a couple of pages  Wink.

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November 04, 2017, 06:18:29 PM
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Good to see some official answering here, very good sign, investors are basically a bit disappointed due to low volume and price of pro tokens, but this is mainly because of bitcoin forks fud and almost all tokens and altcoins are down.
I hope propy team will deliver a quality working project soon and make investors happy.


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November 04, 2017, 08:38:20 PM
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It's really great to see a team member in here. Thanks @Akehurst_Propy_CM


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November 04, 2017, 09:24:27 PM
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In which country this will be working? This will be for limited countries?
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November 05, 2017, 12:53:28 AM
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Don't touch it - it's another scam by nixoid/ambisafe.


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I did warn you all:


The OP of this thread, nixoid is as dodgy as hell. All he does is post new ICO's then disappears again. Look through his post history:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=244;sa=showPosts;start=0

He claims his name is Andrey Zamovskiy, founder of Ambisafe, representative (whatever that means) of propy.com & the owner of several online businesses:

http://bitmerch.com - **gone**  - domain for sale.

http://btc-dealer.com -  **gone**  - domain for sale.  Complaints of non-payments:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=330397.0

Since starting up Ambisafe all he's done is log on, announce ICO's on BCT, log off again. No support. No questions answered. Nothing. Here's a list of them so far (english ones only, there are also some russian ones):

Inchain - **failed**    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1623519.2100

TaaS - **failed - confirmed scam**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1922777.80

BitCAD - **barely alive - multiple scam accusations**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1865997.420

Polybius - **ongoing - multiple scam accusations**:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1848751.1700

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1970796.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1952266.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1971023.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1942398.msg19291453#msg19291453

OROCRYPT - **ongoing - for now** - be careful:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1925056.160

Orderbook - **latest attempt**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1980695.0

CryptoCarbon - **barely alive - multiple scam accusations**   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1624142.20

Chronobank.io - **ongoing - make your own mind up** (No official ann on BCT from nixoid, but it is listed on ambisafe site)

CompCoin - ** new - many unanswered questions & zero info**  Not sure what it is tbh:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1965246.20

Ambisafe my arse. Ambiscam fits better.

And now this one.....lol

What's more, whenever he posts new ICO's a crowd of noob shill accounts seem to appear - beware.

drop it like it's hot.

Yet another Ambiscam fake ICO.

As an update to this, their ICO's for Polybius & Worldcore have now also been proven to be scams. They have abandoned those threads too - just like this one.....with more to follow.....

Stay away from any ICO's involving Ambisafe & their fake accounts!!

BEWARE OF AMBISAFE/HASHCOINS SCAM ICO's: Polybius, SRG, Propy, Cryptaur, Worldcore, Compcoin, Chronobank, Orocrypt, Orderbook, Taas, Crytocarbon, ESR-Wallet, Levelnet, Micromoney, etc, etc)
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November 05, 2017, 05:33:55 PM
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In which country this will be working? This will be for limited countries?

Propy.com is dedicated to solving the problems of purchasing property across borders

https://propy.com/
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November 05, 2017, 09:31:30 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/natalie.karaya?hc_ref=ARQGEFpoiJvpt5COhx5s4duHALCrY0_FgMLxRx3UhHyFFeqzYAjl81_iUnZGxAofZoM&fref=nf

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