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June 27, 2017, 05:51:06 PM
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Russia was never the aggressor, and all the territories that acceded to it is the result of military victories over the aggressors. In addition to the war of 1939: the Soviet Union is strategically important to occupy 10% of Finnish territory and to move the border away from St. Petersburg. Because everyone understood the inevitability of war with Germany, and Finland with their Mannerheim line was their ally.
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June 27, 2017, 06:09:37 PM
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Pretty agressive, i won't deny. But don't know if the "most".
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June 27, 2017, 08:41:13 PM
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Russia was never the aggressor, and all the territories that acceded to it is the result of military victories over the aggressors. In addition to the war of 1939: the Soviet Union is strategically important to occupy 10% of Finnish territory and to move the border away from St. Petersburg. Because everyone understood the inevitability of war with Germany, and Finland with their Mannerheim line was their ally.

 First, the Mannerheim Line is intended for defense from Russia, and not for aggression. Secondly, Russia's attack on Finland in 1939 did not help in the war with Germany, but on the contrary Russia acquired the enemy. By the way, thanks to the Mannerheim Line, the Russians lost many soldiers and military equipment and could not advance into the interior of Finland. The Finnish people showed heroism in this war, and women took part in the defense. Finland could not be made a Russian colony, and today Finland is the most prosperous country in the world, the Finns knew why they needed freedom.
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June 27, 2017, 08:41:53 PM
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The fact is that the

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June 27, 2017, 08:43:35 PM
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The fact is that the

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History shows a lot of facts when the state sponsored some organizations that later started their activities against this state.

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June 27, 2017, 08:44:59 PM
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Totally agree 100000000%,all words in your text is true Undecided Russia is aggressor nr.1 in the world Undecided





Do you actually share old nazi, racist propaganda in complete seriousness on this forum?  Shocked You "totally" do, huh?

Hitler stated in Mein Kampf his belief that the Russian state was the work of German elements in the state and not of the Slavs:

    Here Fate itself seems desirous of giving us a sign. By handing Russia to Bolshevism, it robbed the Russian nation of that intelligentsia which previously brought about and guaranteed its existence as a state. For the organization of a Russian state formation was not the result of the political abilities of the Slavs in Russia, but only a wonderful example of the state-forming efficacity of the German element in an inferior race.

"Need, hunger, lack of comfort have been the Russians' lot for centuries. No false compassion, as their stomachs are perfectly extendible. Don't try to impose the German standards and to change their style of life. Their only wish is to be ruled by the Germans. [...] Help yourselves, and may God help you!"
— "12 precepts for the German officer in the East", 1941



    This is an ideological battle and a struggle of races. Here in this struggle stands National Socialism: an ideology based on the value of our Germanic, Nordic blood. ... On the other side stands a population of 180 million, a mixture of races, whose very names are unpronounceable, and whose physique is such that one can shoot them down without pity and compassion. These animals, that torture and ill-treat every prisoner from our side, every wounded man that they come across and do not treat them the way decent soldiers would, you will see for yourself. These people have been welded by the Jews into one religion, one ideology, that is called Bolshevism... When you, my men, fight over there in the East, you are carrying on the same struggle, against the same subhumanity, the same inferior races, that at one time appeared under the name of Huns, another time— 1000 years ago at the time of King Henry and Otto I— under the name of Magyars, another time under the name of Tartars, and still another time under the name of Genghis Khan and the Mongols. Today they appear as Russians under the political banner of Bolshevism.

Heinrich Himmler's speech at Poznań (Posen) on October 4, 1943

What happens to a Russian, to a Czech, does not interest me in the slightest. What the nations can offer in good blood of our type, we will take, if necessary by kidnapping their children and raising them with us. Whether nations live in prosperity or starve to death interests me only in so far as we need them as slaves for our culture; otherwise, it is of no interest to me. Whether 10,000 Russian females fall down from exhaustion while digging an anti-tank ditch interest me only in so far as the anti-tank ditch for Germany is finished. We shall never be rough and heartless when it is not necessary, that is clear. We Germans, who are the only people in the world who have a decent attitude towards animals, will also assume a decent attitude towards these human animals.

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June 27, 2017, 09:06:36 PM
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June 27, 2017, 09:41:39 PM
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Do you actually share old nazi, racist propaganda in complete seriousness on this forum?  Shocked You "totally" do, huh?

Hitler stated in Mein Kampf his belief that the Russian state was the work of German elements in the state and not of the Slavs:

    Here Fate itself seems desirous of giving us a sign. By handing Russia to Bolshevism, it robbed the Russian nation of that intelligentsia which previously brought about and guaranteed its existence as a state. For the organization of a Russian state formation was not the result of the political abilities of the Slavs in Russia, but only a wonderful example of the state-forming efficacity of the German element in an inferior race.

"Need, hunger, lack of comfort have been the Russians' lot for centuries. No false compassion, as their stomachs are perfectly extendible. Don't try to impose the German standards and to change their style of life. Their only wish is to be ruled by the Germans. [...] Help yourselves, and may God help you!"
— "12 precepts for the German officer in the East", 1941



    This is an ideological battle and a struggle of races. Here in this struggle stands National Socialism: an ideology based on the value of our Germanic, Nordic blood. ... On the other side stands a population of 180 million, a mixture of races, whose very names are unpronounceable, and whose physique is such that one can shoot them down without pity and compassion. These animals, that torture and ill-treat every prisoner from our side, every wounded man that they come across and do not treat them the way decent soldiers would, you will see for yourself. These people have been welded by the Jews into one religion, one ideology, that is called Bolshevism... When you, my men, fight over there in the East, you are carrying on the same struggle, against the same subhumanity, the same inferior races, that at one time appeared under the name of Huns, another time— 1000 years ago at the time of King Henry and Otto I— under the name of Magyars, another time under the name of Tartars, and still another time under the name of Genghis Khan and the Mongols. Today they appear as Russians under the political banner of Bolshevism.

Heinrich Himmler's speech at Poznań (Posen) on October 4, 1943

What happens to a Russian, to a Czech, does not interest me in the slightest. What the nations can offer in good blood of our type, we will take, if necessary by kidnapping their children and raising them with us. Whether nations live in prosperity or starve to death interests me only in so far as we need them as slaves for our culture; otherwise, it is of no interest to me. Whether 10,000 Russian females fall down from exhaustion while digging an anti-tank ditch interest me only in so far as the anti-tank ditch for Germany is finished. We shall never be rough and heartless when it is not necessary, that is clear. We Germans, who are the only people in the world who have a decent attitude towards animals, will also assume a decent attitude towards these human animals.

You are disgusting.

That applies to your ass too, Alik Bahshi.


It's good that you remembered the ideologist of German fascism, today this role is perfectly demonstrated by the Fuhrer Putin. Moreover, if Hitler divided the nations into higher and lower races, then, for example, Putin completely eliminates the Ukrainian people from history, saying that there is no such people. He believes that Ukrainians are a Russian people.

  I want to notify you as a great expert in ass, which is clear from your post that it has nothing to do with Putin's ass.

  With best wishes Alik Bakhshi
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June 27, 2017, 09:58:55 PM
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Russia was never the aggressor, and all the territories that acceded to it is the result of military victories over the aggressors. In addition to the war of 1939: the Soviet Union is strategically important to occupy 10% of Finnish territory and to move the border away from St. Petersburg. Because everyone understood the inevitability of war with Germany, and Finland with their Mannerheim line was their ally.

 First, the Mannerheim Line is intended for defense from Russia, and not for aggression. Secondly, Russia's attack on Finland in 1939 did not help in the war with Germany, but on the contrary Russia acquired the enemy. By the way, thanks to the Mannerheim Line, the Russians lost many soldiers and military equipment and could not advance into the interior of Finland. The Finnish people showed heroism in this war, and women took part in the defense. Finland could not be made a Russian colony, and today Finland is the most prosperous country in the world, the Finns knew why they needed freedom.

Of course Finland was ready to provide any assistance to the enemy of the Soviet Union Smiley
The President of Finland P. E. Svinhufvud in 1937, said in Berlin that "the enemy of Russia must always be a friend of Finland". In conversation with the German envoy, he said: "the Russian threat will exist permanently. Therefore, for Finland is good that Germany is strong."
Therefore, the Soviet Union took no walkable Mannerheim line with huge losses. Which could be the basis of the German offensive on Leningrad.
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June 27, 2017, 10:10:13 PM
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Even while being the most aggressive country, it's not like they're really getting anything out of it. They're military is old and failing, the economy in Russia is absoluetly so bad that the President (Putin) had to go to the extreme of invading another country and showing that they're winning at something to be able to convince the people that they're not a failing country. The only reason Russian had been doing good up to around 2012 was due to OIL being so expensive, now with the downturn of that the country is failing and they don't know what to do.

Most aggressive-- more like the biggest talker out of all the countries. If the US wanted to though, they could flatten them in .2 seconds.




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June 27, 2017, 11:06:59 PM
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- three states Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia joined the USSR
These states were a part of the Nazi Germany. They joined USSR after the WW2.
Baltic states was occupied by USSR in 1940. Presidents of Latvia and Estonia were sent to prison in Sibir and their governments resigned. Ultimatum to Lithuania was given to join USSR, otherwise army of USSR would invade country.

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June 28, 2017, 01:15:55 AM
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You guys can't compare USSR and Russia today, that's like comparing Nazi germany with the todays Germany, makes no sense. And it's not like they've been doing stuff like these.

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June 28, 2017, 01:17:14 AM
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- three states Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia joined the USSR
These states were a part of the Nazi Germany. They joined USSR after the WW2.
Baltic states was occupied by USSR in 1940. Presidents of Latvia and Estonia were sent to prison in Sibir and their governments resigned. Ultimatum to Lithuania was given to join USSR, otherwise army of USSR would invade country.

Before 1940, the Baltic states were ruled by puppet rulers installed by the Nazi Germans. And each of these nations (especially Latvia and Lithuania) had a sizable ethnic German population). The Soviets were afraid that these countries will merge with Germany.

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June 28, 2017, 01:27:04 AM
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Russia is the most aggressive country

    Following the Second World War, Russia is the only country that has seized foreign territories and even the whole state. Neither the United States, nor the United Kingdom, nor Canada, as a winner country, unlike Russia, did not acquire a meter of foreign land, but Russia seized vast territories:
 - 10% of the territory of Finland, and this is almost the territory of Switzerland,
 - annexed part of Germany (East Prussia),
 - three states Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia joined the USSR,
 - the huge territories of Poland were torn away in favor of the USSR,
 - annexed part of Romania (Bessarabia),
 - Tyva was annexed (in 1944),
 - part of the territory of Japan (Southern Sakhalin with the Kuril Islands) has been annexed.

  It should be noted that these territorial acquisitions of Moscow lie on the conscience of the American President Roosevelt, who completely trusted Uncle Joe, in spite of Churchill's warnings. But America had a colossal opportunity to stop the insatiability of Stalin. I am sure that if it were not for America, and the Russians had the first to have an atomic bomb, they would not fail to take advantage of this circumstance, and the world would be different today.

   At the end of the 20th century, before the collapse of the Evil Empire, when its economy was already breathing deeply, Moscow attempted to seize another country - Afghanistan. However, this time the Russians ran into a people that belonged to their freedom, as to a shrine and, despite their enormous superiority, the Russians suffered a shameful defeat (1).
    But what is surprising is that even after the partial collapse of the empire, Russia has not lost its predatory nature, which is well illustrated by the attack on Georgia and Ukraine. And again, through the fault of America, which did not take advantage of the situation to complete the disintegration of the evil Empire, the West today has problems with its revanchism. Not understanding President Bush Jr., what is Russia and the Russian people (2) with its imperial worldview in a compartment with Great Russian chauvinism (3), allowed Putin's "friend" to pour in Chechnya blood and suppress the shoots of Yeltsin's democracy. And Obama, too intelligent for this case, slipped Russia's attack on Ukraine, although it was clear on all grounds that Ukraine could not avoid military aggression from Russia. In the article Whose Crimea (4) I predicted in 2006 the inevitability of the implementation of the Kremlin's military plans for Ukraine. Moreover, two months before Russia's invasion of Crimea, in an article (5) I wrote that it will take place after the Winter Olympics in Sochi. Obama not only did not dare to contradict Putin's tricks, although America on the Budapest Memorandum was the guarantor of Ukraine's security, but also refused to help Ukraine in arming.
    The West does not want to take seriously the revanchist aspirations of Putin, as it once let Hitler revanchism, which in the end could lead to a big war, for Putin will not definitely stop in Ukraine.

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I think Russia only excels in the vast amount of territory, but in terms of military I think superior to northern korea. He said he has a nuclear inside earth if all earth is activated will be destroyed
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June 28, 2017, 04:10:59 AM
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Russia was never the aggressor, and all the territories that acceded to it is the result of military victories over the aggressors. In addition to the war of 1939: the Soviet Union is strategically important to occupy 10% of Finnish territory and to move the border away from St. Petersburg. Because everyone understood the inevitability of war with Germany, and Finland with their Mannerheim line was their ally.

 First, the Mannerheim Line is intended for defense from Russia, and not for aggression. Secondly, Russia's attack on Finland in 1939 did not help in the war with Germany, but on the contrary Russia acquired the enemy. By the way, thanks to the Mannerheim Line, the Russians lost many soldiers and military equipment and could not advance into the interior of Finland. The Finnish people showed heroism in this war, and women took part in the defense. Finland could not be made a Russian colony, and today Finland is the most prosperous country in the world, the Finns knew why they needed freedom.

Of course Finland was ready to provide any assistance to the enemy of the Soviet Union Smiley
The President of Finland P. E. Svinhufvud in 1937, said in Berlin that "the enemy of Russia must always be a friend of Finland". In conversation with the German envoy, he said: "the Russian threat will exist permanently. Therefore, for Finland is good that Germany is strong."
Therefore, the Soviet Union took no walkable Mannerheim line with huge losses. Which could be the basis of the German offensive on Leningrad.

If the Russians had not attacked Finland in 1939, then perhaps Leningrad was not in a blockade. Russians are looking for enemies, this applies to today. What did Georgia and Ukraine somehow threaten Russia? Why did the Russians attack Ukraine and Georgia? Russia is the empire of Evil, as Zbigniew Brzezinski said. Why did the Russians press the Czechs on Vraclav Square in Prague in 1968? Why did the Russians get into Afghanistan, insidiously killing its president and his family? The Afghans as well as the Finns punished the Russians fighting for their freedom.
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June 28, 2017, 06:16:40 AM
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Russia was never the aggressor, and all the territories that acceded to it is the result of military victories over the aggressors. In addition to the war of 1939: the Soviet Union is strategically important to occupy 10% of Finnish territory and to move the border away from St. Petersburg. Because everyone understood the inevitability of war with Germany, and Finland with their Mannerheim line was their ally.

 First, the Mannerheim Line is intended for defense from Russia, and not for aggression. Secondly, Russia's attack on Finland in 1939 did not help in the war with Germany, but on the contrary Russia acquired the enemy. By the way, thanks to the Mannerheim Line, the Russians lost many soldiers and military equipment and could not advance into the interior of Finland. The Finnish people showed heroism in this war, and women took part in the defense. Finland could not be made a Russian colony, and today Finland is the most prosperous country in the world, the Finns knew why they needed freedom.

But it's funny though how Finns in general are nowadays one of the only people who respect Russians in general instead of irrationally hating them like most of the westerners seem to do  Shocked
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Russia was never the aggressor, and all the territories that acceded to it is the result of military victories over the aggressors. In addition to the war of 1939: the Soviet Union is strategically important to occupy 10% of Finnish territory and to move the border away from St. Petersburg. Because everyone understood the inevitability of war with Germany, and Finland with their Mannerheim line was their ally.

 First, the Mannerheim Line is intended for defense from Russia, and not for aggression. Secondly, Russia's attack on Finland in 1939 did not help in the war with Germany, but on the contrary Russia acquired the enemy. By the way, thanks to the Mannerheim Line, the Russians lost many soldiers and military equipment and could not advance into the interior of Finland. The Finnish people showed heroism in this war, and women took part in the defense. Finland could not be made a Russian colony, and today Finland is the most prosperous country in the world, the Finns knew why they needed freedom.

But it's funny though how Finns in general are nowadays one of the only people who respect Russians in general instead of irrationally hating them like most of the westerners seem to do  Shocked

And what about the two world wars in which the Germans and the French killed each other? Do they still hate each other today? So the Finns are Russian today.
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- three states Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia joined the USSR
These states were a part of the Nazi Germany. They joined USSR after the WW2.
Baltic states was occupied by USSR in 1940. Presidents of Latvia and Estonia were sent to prison in Sibir and their governments resigned. Ultimatum to Lithuania was given to join USSR, otherwise army of USSR would invade country.

Before 1940, the Baltic states were ruled by puppet rulers installed by the Nazi Germans. And each of these nations (especially Latvia and Lithuania) had a sizable ethnic German population). The Soviets were afraid that these countries will merge with Germany.
No, presidents of these countries was nationalist dictators, not pro german. And population of ethnic German people was minimal in Baltic states. Only in Memel region german population was bigger, but this region already was under control of Germany before WW2..

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- three states Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia joined the USSR
These states were a part of the Nazi Germany. They joined USSR after the WW2.
Baltic states was occupied by USSR in 1940. Presidents of Latvia and Estonia were sent to prison in Sibir and their governments resigned. Ultimatum to Lithuania was given to join USSR, otherwise army of USSR would invade country.

Before 1940, the Baltic states were ruled by puppet rulers installed by the Nazi Germans. And each of these nations (especially Latvia and Lithuania) had a sizable ethnic German population). The Soviets were afraid that these countries will merge with Germany.
No, presidents of these countries was nationalist dictators, not pro german. And population of ethnic German people was minimal in Baltic states. Only in Memel region german population was bigger, but this region already was under control of Germany before WW2..

Of course, they were progerman. Baltic States were formed under treaty of Brest-Litevsk treaty between Imperial Germany and nascent Soviet Union. Entire economy was controlled by german land owners between medieval times and 1945.

Nazis eventually sought to use them as area to concentrate attack on industrial heartland of european Russia. While I consider it personally to be terrible for natives, fears in Moscow had firm basis in reality.
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