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Author Topic: CoinMarketCap.com - Market Cap Rankings of All Cryptocurrencies!  (Read 639539 times)
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June 25, 2017, 06:13:48 PM
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Footy Cash has a new website @ http://footycash.com/  If you could replace that it would be great.  The old website is no longer available.

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June 27, 2017, 06:51:59 AM
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Ganjacoin 420G now trades on YoBit - https://yobit.net/en/trade/420G/BTC
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July 01, 2017, 08:13:13 AM
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Please modify/ update BitToken BXT:
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bittokens/#markets


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July 02, 2017, 02:32:00 PM
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The supply of EOS is 1B,  900M are circulating within the next 335 days.  The supply will not be changing so can be hard-coded.

204M are "liquid" now and an additional 2M are being made "liquid" every 23 hours.  Based on Steem Power president the full 900M should be the basis because 900M will be entering the market within a timeframe relevant to todays pricing.

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July 02, 2017, 06:08:13 PM
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Cryptoclone scammed lots of people and ran away. CMC had their ads all over their site.
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July 02, 2017, 07:49:43 PM
Last edit: July 02, 2017, 08:19:17 PM by toknormal
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Hi

I'm questioning the reporting policy of coin supply for some of the new token ICOs who's supply appears to be grossly underreported. Surely the "circulating supply" is that which is in the hands of any potential trader.

For example, my bitcoin is in my wallet and will be staying there. It is not "circulating" in the sense that I will not be making it available for sale, and yet it still reported as part of the bitcoin coin supply.

Meanwhile, here is an example of an asset where the tokens are in existence and are being made available for sale but are not reported as part of the circulating coin supply. I would argue that the block-explorer quantity should be faithfully represented unless there are some kind of exceptional situations (e.g. liquidity is blockchain restricted). Put another way, if any potential trader has access to the full supply - for the purpose of OTC trades of otherwise - then the full supply should be reported.

In summary:

How come Etherscan says this...



And coinmarket.com says this...



When we know that the full supply is accessible, liquid and for sale...



My point is this isn't the stock market. In decentralised cryptocurrency, the "circulating supply" is what the blockchain issues, not what portion the "biggest holder" decides to sell of their holding.

coinmarketcap.com is a comparison site so it's important that all assets are reported consistently in that respect.
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July 02, 2017, 09:11:01 PM
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900M will be entering the market within a timeframe relevant to todays pricing.

By that standard mined coins would have to include whatever portion will be mined "within a timeframe relevant to today's pricing" (enormously subjective, but by your assertion here that would be at least a year). That has never been done on coinmarketcap.

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July 06, 2017, 12:14:42 PM
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in this period of big ICOs, money flow arrives without previous lines of code written, and without establishing the level of competition with existing or functional projects.
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July 10, 2017, 07:02:53 AM
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Ethereum and Ethereum Classic are missing the ** Significantly Premined tag.

Or do you find that 72 mil / 93 mil does not count as significant?
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July 11, 2017, 11:01:41 PM
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How is it possible that the busiest wallet in the chain, with most transactions is not considered by coinmarketcap.com as part of the "circulating supply".

The logic of that is slightly bamboozling.
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July 12, 2017, 12:29:17 PM
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It looks like the price data has not been changing since about 4:50 UTC this morning. It is about 11:35 UTC now.
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July 12, 2017, 01:24:20 PM
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Ethereum and Ethereum Classic are missing the ** Significantly Premined tag.

Or do you find that 72 mil / 93 mil does not count as significant?
66% premine is in no way enough to get the premined tag. Ripple's XRP token is 100% Premined and no **

XRP has the * Not Mineable tag, so it's a non issue. If you can't mine it, the premined tag is not necessary since it's understood that the coins were generated from the start.
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July 13, 2017, 05:00:04 AM
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My point is this isn't the stock market. In decentralised cryptocurrency, the "circulating supply" is what the blockchain issues, not what portion the "biggest holder" decides to sell of their holding.

coinmarketcap.com is a comparison site so it's important that all assets are reported consistently in that respect.


I've brought this up before, and even posted on steemabout it, but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

I don't think using the free float method is a good way of calculating market cap, but I also acknowledge that it's very hard to get the methodology right because the cryptocurrency space isn't standardised and due to the differences between one coin and another, it's hard to make a comparison.


Perhaps it would be better to have two columns for market cap? Free float market cap and total market cap?
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July 13, 2017, 08:12:40 AM
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It looks like the price data has not been changing since about 4:50 UTC this morning. It is about 11:35 UTC now.
SAame with coincap.io, what's going on? Are those two using same data calculation methods or sources?

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July 13, 2017, 10:15:41 AM
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Why is Ripple operating a ordinary database listed among blockchain technology coins.
Why do you show wrong marketcap of Ripples xrp as you full well know that not all circulating tokens are available to be freely traded (some are locked by contractual agreement or otherwise, jeps)
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July 13, 2017, 10:40:42 AM
Last edit: July 13, 2017, 03:21:23 PM by toknormal
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I don't think using the free float method is a good way of calculating market cap, but I also acknowledge that it's very hard to get the methodology right because the cryptocurrency space isn't standardised and due to the differences between one coin and another

doctor-s, I read your steem article (which I hadn't seen before) and it was very interesting.

I'd say that free-float methodology has absolutely no place in a decentralised asset sector, principally because the off-book capital is not shared (with investors) in blockchain assets, while in equity markets it is.

Furthermore, in the latter (equity) case investor's capital is still backed by the shares they purchase. In other words, they still retain ownership of their invested capital via their received shareholding and this is reflected in the bottom half of the corporate balance sheet by virtue of all the corporate asset holdings being owed back to shareholders. Yet another distinction is that a corporation is a legal entity in its own right and it's that legal entity that receives and owns the capital invested, not the directors (they may of course do so in another capacity, as shareholders themselves). Even if a tranch of that legal entity's capitalisation is 'off-books' for market reporting, its assets are all under communal ownership as far as the wider shareholding community is concerned.

In cryptocurrency however the entire landscape is completely different. There is no equity issuer. The blockchain issues tokens and those tokens do not represent shares in the individuals/corporations who invoked their creation and who may be developing the associated market. ALL wallet holders are therefore independent and equal in status. There are large holders, small holders, some with a propensity to sell, others not.

The "free-float" method of calculating the total value held in a blockchain is therefore meaningless and arbitrary in this context.

For example, one of the largest and most active 'wallets' in the Veritasium meta coin chain is excluded from the reported marketcap. Its contents are ostensibly owned by a corporate entity (we do not know categorically) but investors in the token do not receive any share in that entity even though they are indirectly capitalising it to the tune of 100's of millions of dollars on paper by pricing the tiny quantity who's marketcap CMC erroneously promotes with a factor of 50 distortion.

Meanwhile, back on the bitcoin chain, a wallet containing 1 million BTC that has not been touched for 8 years and who's contents are clearly not "circulating" in any meaningful sense is included in the supply that counts towards marketcap. This is clearly a reporting convention that is ripe for gaming by aggressive ICO issuers who 'release' tiny amounts ('release' is the wrong word by the way since the blockchain is the only source of the tokens', "Sell" is the correct word) to the market and then use that tiny quantity to price the rest of their holdings at astronomically overvalued levels. All courtesy of the compliance of a corrupted accounting convention deployed by the worlds most accessed reference site for cryptocurrency market capitalisations.

IMHO it's nothing short of an appalling reporting practice that does not protect investors interests and who's failure of consistency is paving the way for nefarious and predatory offerings which would be outlawed in any formally regulated environment.
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July 14, 2017, 10:24:38 PM
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Why is Ripple operating a ordinary database listed among blockchain technology coins.
It is not, see https://github.com/ripple/rippled

I agree that the "circulating supply" is a bit murky on that one, currently it seems to be "all XRP not directly owned by Ripple Inc". If you have actual sources which addresses belong to whom and under which contracts they are locked, it would be interesting to publish a more exact number I guess. Your self-moderated post however unfortunately does not really contain many verifiable facts.

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July 21, 2017, 01:16:33 PM
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Please update BITCLOUD
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/BitCloud/

BITCLOUD THREAD
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1604893.0

BITCLOUD MARKETS
https://www.coinexchange.io/market/BTD/BTC

BITCLOUD EXPLORER
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/btd/

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July 23, 2017, 04:10:59 AM
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Perhaps it would be better to have two columns for market cap? Free float market cap and total market cap?

There may not be columns but you can use the menus to display by total supply.

If you choose to view according to total supply you will find that Malcoin is the #2 cryptocurrency with a market cap of $37 billion.
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July 31, 2017, 06:15:02 PM
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Does someone know how CoinMarketCap, in the present, accesses the "circulating supply" value?

In the first post they write:

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public URL that displays the total supply (total mined so far).

That would mean that they don't run altcoin clients themselves but access to statistics provided, e.g., by block explorers.

My question:

- Do they need a full-fledged web service providing e.g. JSON/XML data?
- Or are they OK with a web site where the value "circulating supply" appears, because they web-scrape that sites?
- Or have they changed their policy and are running altcoin clients now for every coin? (unlikely because that would need a lot of resources)?

I ask because there are tons of coins that are supported only by the block explorers without "API mode", but their supply is displayed correctly.

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