Ban Legendaries from signature campaigns

[Last of the V8s]

If you are still scrabbling around for pennies after ~2 years, shitposting, misinforming, counting posts like a noob

you have done nothing of significance for bitcoin

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[Spoetnik]

On the contrary anyone who signs up for one is the loser.
And no i never have.
When I got here they did not exist yet..

And what is with your logic?
If someone has been here 3 years there is an expectation that they should have already collected a minimum amount of Bitcoin?
That is stupid. 

[Jet Cash]

I think signatures should be used for political or personal comments, or to promote services we use and know are good and reliable, or to promote our own sites or products. Signatures are too valuable to waste on campaigns for products we wouldn't touch with a cyberpole.

[Invester]

If you are still scrabbling around for pennies after ~2 years, shitposting, misinforming, counting posts like a noob

you have done nothing of significance for bitcoin

Somehow I agree. I think you have some point. But I also think they are not primarily here to gather pennies. They are earning decent amount already for sure but they are just staying to promote a new project. However, it is also sad that some are taking advantage of their very high ranks to gain some more regardless of their reputation as legendaries.

[BitHodler]

And what is with your logic?
If someone has been here 3 years there is an expectation that they should have already collected a minimum amount of Bitcoin?
That is stupid. 

Well, to a certain extent it does make sense. It's fairly easy to assume that when you're a sub 2013 legendary member, by now you should have been in a very comfortable position, financially speaking.

If you're not, then you have been sleeping and dreaming, but not doing anything of significance, again, financially speaking. It's the hard reality.

But the thing is that a fair number of legendary members don't really represent their original account creators anymore. In other words, these accounts are either bought, or hacked.

[Spoetnik]

Not everyone cares about money or hoarding coins etc.. like me.
Which is why i would never be in a SIG campaign.

I get the OP's point though..

Myself i dumped all i had back when BTC was a grand in late 2013'ish..
And unlike most idiots i never invested a cent.
Took me forever just to get 1 LTC coin.
I did it by scraping up dust and trading up etc.

So if i guy like me wanted to start like that over again why not ?

If a Legendary account is in a SIG campaign they are probably just trying to advertise because they are associated with the product i bet.
But i also think some may be in on it because they need the dust they get from them.
So if they are poor and need it then hey what is the problem ?

[botany]

If you are still scrabbling around for pennies after ~2 years, shitposting, misinforming, counting posts like a noob

you have done nothing of significance for bitcoin

That is a new thought. I would say all users who are shitposting/misinforming should be banned from the forum.
You shouldn't be painting all Legendary users with the same brush.

[Vod]

I often post one liners or one sentence responses.  For this reason, I'm not in a signature campaign. 

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Yeah hi, wake the fuck up.  It's not pennies we're talking about once you reach hero status.   It definitely adds up, and if you're going to be posting here anyway--why not?  What you're basically saying is that legendaries shouldn't have a need for extra income.  That makes no sense to me and I think you're just trolling.   

[FFrankie]

The signature campaign I am in, if I post the max amount of posts its enough to pay my rent, so I do think its "pennies" if I was in yobit I could pay my rent and cell phone, if I was in bitcoin AG I could pay my rent cell phone and probably food for the month but that might be stretching it and I am in NJ. I can just imagine how people in foreign countries make off signature camps.

[Icculus.]

The signature campaign I am in, if I post the max amount of posts its enough to pay my rent, so I do think its "pennies" if I was in yobit I could pay my rent and cell phone, if I was in bitcoin AG I could pay my rent cell phone and probably food for the month but that might be stretching it and I am in NJ. I can just imagine how people in foreign countries make off signature camps.

You're either bullshitting us...have several accounts in signature campaigns...or still live with your parents.

No advertised rate for the 777 campaign pays anything close to what rent costs in New Jersey, USA. At least you admit that its "pennies"...even though it contradicts everything else you say.

[Panda Trump]

If you are still scrabbling around for pennies after ~2 years, shitposting, misinforming, counting posts like a noob

you have done nothing of significance for bitcoin

What's your problem with Signature Campaigns? They are great helps in advertising things.
I've joined multiple and it's really annoying to hear these complaining peeps complaining for whatever their reasons are..

[Sadlife]

I think people who usually post this are rich and doesn't give a damn to the poor that's why to flame them with this kind of post. If a person wants to join a sig campaign let them after all the forum site/company the company that is advertising it and the members as well are all benefiting for everyone involve. Sig campaigns should be even considered as online jobs and people that doesn't know bitcoin you get interested in it after all trading and mining both requires some ridiculous amount of profit in order to get started to it. Some people use there bitcoins as their source of income and had to spend it daily to buy goods/services or help there people financially.

[adroitful_one]

Who cares? Most sig campaigns don't allow shitposting and spam. If someone wants to pay someone to promote their project, so be it. Even if you had $1000s of Bitcoins, why not earn a bit more by making a few posts? I know I would. Even if I had millions, I would still be in a sig campaign and earning extra money.

[neon_colors01]

Ugh what's wrong with legendaries being on a signature campaign.
It's their choice and they have more contributions in the community.

Personally, I enjoy their presence and cuz I enjoy reading their posts.
It's very informative

[hilariousandco]

If you are still scrabbling around for pennies after ~2 years, shitposting, misinforming, counting posts like a noob

you have done nothing of significance for bitcoin

I think Legendaries are the least of concern. It's the legions of shitposters from developing nations with dozens of accounts each trying to earn a living when they can't even speak English that are the problem and the shitcoin campaigns that will happily pay them to do so.

Yeah hi, wake the fuck up.  It's not pennies we're talking about once you reach hero status.   It definitely adds up, and if you're going to be posting here anyway--why not?  What you're basically saying is that legendaries shouldn't have a need for extra income.  That makes no sense to me and I think you're just trolling.  

Yeah. This forum allowed me to stop putting my own money into bitcoin which was and still is a potentially risky venture and it paid off for me. I got paid over ten btc from PrimeDice alone over the duration of their campaign and I never sold the coins so that's currently £18K in value currently so not bad merely for posting. I have nothing but respect for people who choose not to partake in signature campaigns due to moral or ethical reasons but if I can get paid for doing something I would do anyway then that's awesome to me. I'm very appreciative of the ways I've been able to make money from this forum as it makes my life a hell of a lot more comfortable and I get to invest in bitcoin with nothing but my time, but it is sad and very frustrating watching the forum degenerate into what it has with it basically just being somewhere for people from poorer nations to earn a living by squeezing out the most basic of posts over numerous accounts (or just copy and pasting other's responses).

Who cares? Most sig campaigns don't allow shitposting and spam. If someone wants to pay someone to promote their project, so be it. Even if you had $1000s of Bitcoins, why not earn a bit more by making a few posts? I know I would. Even if I had millions, I would still be in a sig campaign and earning extra money.

But this isn't true is it. If it was then the forum wouldn't be full of shit from wall to wall. I've always said that signature campaigns could actually clean up this forum if they were run properly and only paid for quality posts but unless we start banning the users or campaigns who run terrible campaigns it's just going to get worse. If every campaign was run like Lauda's Bitmixer etc then there would be no problem but when you've got numerous alt coin campaigns popping up every month accepting hundreds of users regardless of quality and doing absolutely nothing about the content of posts or removing spammers they are the ones causing 99% of the spam. You can literally farm hundreds of accounts and get accepted and paid for every single one like this user did. They should never have even been accepted onto the campaign in the first place but multiple campaigns had already paid them to do so. When I told their current campaign manager about the users he first said he can't see anything wrong with them (not that he even checked them before I told him about them):

Who is in charge of running the Matchpool signature campaign? You really need to do something about the spam coming from your campaign as it's appalling. The majority of people I've seen wearing your signature seem to be writing unsubstantial spam and some even plagiarising content. Please go through your list of participants and remove anyone who is blatantly just putting the bare minimum of effort in (which is a lot) as your campaign cannot continue to operate here in such a way.

A lot of the following accounts likely belong to one or a handful of users. They're all on your campaign, all Russian, all registered in 2016 with most registering in June:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=920630 bitbunni
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=861826 Rastaman2016
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=910928 Sierra82fit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=909262 wutard
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858133 Winter1986
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=863474     coszy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858136 Dizaster2015
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=861828     Drago2016
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=856762 ZlaiaZaia
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=907401 one-day0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=926796     Cherry Girl
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=863480     ovvidiy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=927024 grenade launcher
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=856719     Berns
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=854926 Kvazimoda
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=862744 phieiph
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857700     Lorik
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=734191 horace08122
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=898812 sergeyzol
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=857623     Gilf

When you don't keep an eye on your participants and just accept anybody who bothers to sign up it just leads to account farmers like these abusing it.

Also, please read the Signature Guidelines thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0

Hey again, I've just checked all the users you just gave us.
To tell you the truth I don't see any wrong with their posting.
Yes they are not related to my project and obviously does not serve the purpose, but none of them is offensive on all are on threads that already exist and have many users. why is that spam to you?

Can you see something I can't? are they all the same user? If I'm to ban them from my campaign which I'm willing to do I must have some solid accusations other than posting in non related threads.

Please get back to me on that.

Thanks

Apparently these sorts of posts are fine to most campaigns:

Yep. I'm not sure why he thought regurgitating the same one or two lines of nonsense or "I agree" on 200 accounts post after post would be acceptable. This is why we can't have nice things:

Bitcoin is helping all of us to earn extra money and if teenager wants to start earning then there is nothing wrong in it as it will make them more responsible and start valuing money from very early age so I think we should show them the simple ways of earning bitcoins instead of introducing them to trading and gambling.

I agree, bitcoin is the best way to make young people learn about responsibilities and how to earn their own money, doing things they already do every day, but also we need to supervise them and guide them because as we know bitcoin is used in gambling sites, and unless we don’t want them to become gamblers we need to keep an eye on them and what do they actually do with the bitcoin they earn.

Those who want to make quick money will anyhow start going on gambling sites and we cannot stop them or control them and its their own money so they can do whatever they want to with their bitcoins and we should not bother about that instead we should keep ourselves engage in earning more bitcoins.

yes, I agree with you. We must try to find a reliable source of income. Let it be small, but reliable.
Bitcoins are simply enough to keep in order to make a profit in the future

but still i am hopeful and confident that the price of bitcoin is going to increase more and more and hope that very soon the price of bitcoin will cross 2000 USD just in few months the price of bitcoin will be trading above 2000 USD level.

When you post such outrageous claims, then you should accompany that with some concrete proof. Give some reason why you think that the prices will top $2,000. There should be some trigger, such as the ETF listing or government recognition.

I agree with you, there must be significant reasons for the price of bitcoin to rise sharply. At least there should be no negative news. At the moment, the price of bitcoin can not go vvarh only because of the demand

It will be more correct to say not the poor, but lazy people and freebie lovers. A normal person will never believe in this fraudulent scheme of earnings. Lazybirds always look for easy ways, stop halfway, are afraid of difficulties and all their lives remain poor or lose huge money that they inherited. Here business in enterprise skills and desire constantly to grow.

Yes you are right. To become rich, you must constantly work on yourself. Do not be afraid to learn something new and get new experience in different areas.

It hard nowadays to earn good free amount of satoshi from the bitcoin faucet. I think the best ideas is for one be into this kind of bitcoin forum. As i hear about  getting signature i think this is great opportunity too.

Yes, you are right - this is a good opportunity. But do not think that it's easy. To receive a fee for their messages, they must be informative and interesting

My first experience in bitcoin when I first started it I become easily interested to learn well on whats the process of bitcoin and on how it works well. Well, I remember that Ive become more agressive that time to learn and to earn in bitcoin.

Even me, I was urge to collect coin at my first time on having transaction with strangers around, I feel so cool at that time and make some studies on how to collect more of it. It was good Experience.

Yes, I agree with you. It was a good experience. I really enjoyed using bitcoin. It's unusual. When you use bitcoin, you feel free

the first japan bill containing virtual currencies is expected to come on april which recognizes bitcoin as a method of payment.Although,it doesnot define bitcoin as a legal currency,it is still considered as a remarkable progress for bitcoin in japan.Hope, most of tourists who would go to japan to see 2020 olympics would be able to pay in bitcoins.

Thats a great news from such a technically advanced country like japan.Previously,most of japanese lost their interest in bitcoin due to Mt.Gox shut down.Its good to see now they have started adopting bitcoins once again.Since 2020 Olympics is a world event,if bitcoin is accepted at that time,then surely it would give a big publicity to bitcoin through out the world.

I agree with you. The Olympics is a very important event. And many people will learn about bitcoin. This will make it more popular. It is a pity that the Olympics are not this year. This would help bitcoin

There are no indicators that the up trend is going to slow down any time soon, so I'd say to at least hold your Bitcoin until you see a clear indication that the price is going down.

Btw, investing your coins is almost the same as holding imo.. With some extra risk, but you should be able to minimize that by doing your research.

Yes, I agree, the crypto currency is very unpredictable and no one can accurately tell what price will be tomorrow. But the bitcoin community believes in it. I would save some bitkoins for a distant future

I try to buy new things, but as far as my budget allows. Sometimes it stimulates me to increase earnings. I love everything new and I enjoy it immensely. Therefore, I have to increase my workload to allow me to buy new things.

I completely agree with you. If I have a desire to buy vesh, then I immediately think about whether I have money for this vesh. If not, then I'm looking for an additional source of income. But I do not like goods on credit

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true, bitcoin is freedom. freedom in business, freedom of choice, and the freedom to be rich people. bitcoin have the freedom to users, and I think it does have limitations. when have bitcoin, I kept thinking about the business that I could not do in the real world.

yes bitcoin can be consider as freedom. you do not have to visit a bank for withdrawal of your money, you can withdrawal any amount of bitcoin from your wallet at any time and can sent as payment to any one in any time.

Indeed, bitcoin gives us the power to control our own lives and our money, and be our own banks, and unlike the other regular banks online wallets don’t take money or any fees at least the ones that I know about, but with the more fees from miners kicking in people are starting to lose trust of bitcoin

Yes, you are right, now in the bitcoin community there is a split. And no one can say what will happen tomorrow. Whether we will be able to use our bitcoins as freely.

Anyone who claims to be the second coming of Christ is automatically labelled as a crazy person or just seeking attention. So I understand that the onus is on me to prove that I am in fact a prophet of god. The main problem is that I cannot make future events come to pass while my willpower is possessed by other people. And as long as I'm residing in someone elses house, the master of the house will possess my willpower. Has anyone noticed that banks always predict prosperity for themselves, and petroleum corporations always predict higher oil prices? They're not just making predictions, they're prophesizing. The banks and the police possess my willpower.

The easiest way for me to regain my willpower is to walk into the wilderness and fast for forty days. Unfortunately, if I do this then the rest of the world will lose and I will win, leading to catastrophe and destruction for everybody else (natural disasters, economic collapse, pandemic, etc.).

Perhaps there is an alternative solution. I don't really care about winning, and I certainly don't want billions of innocent people to suffer. God told me to deliver his message, and over the past 3 years or so I've written over 500 pages of what I believe to be divinely inspired scripture.

Is anybody interested in reading my message?

You are such a troll, oh my god, this is brilliant. This post and the reactions of the users reading it made my day.

You are right, but there is another truth to what is happening. Without these people who carry this nonsense and nonsense, our life would probably be boring. And even though there is something to laugh at.

I have an idea for a website that will attract many visitors.

If you are sure that you will be attracting many visitors then you will make a good enough money with good ads itself and make sure that you do not fill up all the space with advertisement so that it annoys visitors, it all depends upon what kind of idea you are coming up with,the more the visitors the more money you are going to make.

Yes, you are right, the site should be very attractive to visitors. A lot of advertising will not attract people. It is necessary that the site was interesting to a large number of people due to its relevance

How much bitcoin do you earn for a day or for a week? Im earning 0.0026 per day only and im earning it in signature campaign. Where do you earn most of you coins? Share to me plss  

I am earning nothing . I think there is no one best campaign that can pay a best amount for per post according to my post quality .
trading is about stopped for me .
Hope soon the market will fluctuate  and will result in the Profit for me .

if the rate you think is small. do not make this as your main job make an extra income. you will always be grateful and it would be much better for you

I agree with you. It is better to earn a little, but it is stable. It's better than nothing. I, too, do not get good money now, but I try. My income per week is only 0.01 bitcoins

I have a lot of things I do with bitcoin that is buying online stuffs, paying bills online, payment or transfer of payment. I joined also in an investment using bitcoin and buying and selling bitcoin. These are the things I do with bitcoin. But all of these the good thing is I earned in bitcoin also which Im really thankful.

Those are the very few things that we can do with our bitcoins. But as of now base on what is happening, you just need to do nothing with it. By keep on holding it you will be doing the best thing. Though if you need to spend some of it then just use it with your preferred activity.

Bitcoin is not widely used and accepted everywhere at a moment so spending them is bit difficult but if you are in urgent need of cash then you can sell them and convert it to fiat currency and if not then its better to hold them for future as price is low now so I don't see any point in spending them as it will give us less benefits if we spend them now.

But with the help of those local exchangers, spending bitcoin is easier for us. Too bad if you are living on a country that you don't have your own exchange but still you can use some other good trading platform where you can use your bitcoi for converting to PayPal funds which is still good and considerable as you used bitcoin for it.

Yeah if you don't have an option of spending it directly then you can always convert your bitcoins to fiat currency and spend wherever you want and now we also have an option of bitcoin debit card which has made things really easier as it is accepted everywhere like other bank cards so you can use it anywhere to buy almost anything.

Yes, I agree - the depot card very much simplified the use of the crypto currency. And if a person wants to spend his bitcoins, then the use of such a card will be convenient

I dont think you can get a full coin fast with the free method, i've been on the free method since last year and the most i could achieve was between 50 and 35 usd by solving captchas and using faucets.

Better buy btc irl and invest them on something safe, like the pats going to playoffs next season

To do this, very strong knowledge is needed. I think that a new person from scratch should start with another earnings. If freelancing then it is more suitable than collecting cranes or other things. More signatures are easy and without risk. But this is an extreme case.

I agree with you - freelancing is the safest way to earn money. But sometimes you need to take risks if you want to get more.
From scratch, you can start anything and this can result in great success.

And then talking to his alts:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=858136 Dizaster2015
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=920630 bitbunnni
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=907399     Seccerius

I'm tired of being poor. I'm tired of one day one eat. I will just want to be happy and stop worrying about my empty stomuch.

Most likely, people whose rich tends to find more ways rayher than demanding on how to make a way. People which is poor do ordinary but rich people do extraordinary.

Rich people have everything they want from the very childhood. And they are not bagatas because of their ability to live and make unconventional decisions.
A poor man needs to exert hundreds of times more effort to achieve wealth

But a poor person has more incentive to make money only if he is not lazy. He will have to spend a lot of effort and time to reach a certain satisfying level. Not all the richest people were born in rich families, many had to starve and work hard since childhood. It was their hard work that got into the habit and made them rich.

rich people view all business difficulties as a challenge and opportunity, while poor people always give up before engaging/give up halfway, and kept waiting for an easier business. For example, poor people assume all sorts of HYIP is wrong and continue to express hatred every time. While many rich people consider HYIP as a daily breakfast.

It will be more correct to say not the poor, but lazy people and freebie lovers. A normal person will never believe in this fraudulent scheme of earnings. Lazybirds always look for easy ways, stop halfway, are afraid of difficulties and all their lives remain poor or lose huge money that they inherited. Here business in enterprise skills and desire constantly to grow.

Yes you are right. To become rich, you must constantly work on yourself. Do not be afraid to learn something new and get new experience in different areas.

And of course multiple shitcoin campaigns paid him to do this every time.

That user had over 200 accounts banned all on one campaign at the time. I'm sure he's still posting on others as well.

There's half a dozen ICO campaigns that popped up over the last month alone and they're all paying hundreds of users to make the same sorts of posts and there's many more farmers that I know of who still need looking into. These ICO campaigns are both lazy and greedy and don't give a shit about the spam as long as the shit is getting smeared all over the forum promoting their scam but it needs to stop. If you pay for these sorts of posts your accounts should be banned, all threads trashed and their signatures forcibly removed/blacklisted but without theymos' help nothing will change.

[ibminer]

There's half a dozen ICO campaigns that popped up over the last month alone and they're all paying hundreds of users to make the same sorts of posts and there's many more farmers that I know of who still need looking into. These ICO campaigns are both lazy and greedy and don't give a shit about the spam as long as the shit is getting smeared all over the forum promoting their scam but it needs to stop. If you pay for these sorts of posts your accounts should be banned, all threads trashed and their signatures forcibly removed/blacklisted but without theymos' help nothing will change.

This is Bitcointalk. The forum shouldn't cater to altcoins at all. Why give them the audience & platform to confuse people and take away from Bitcoin?  Just get rid of the altcoin section entirely and get back to discussing Bitcoin.

[hilariousandco]

There's half a dozen ICO campaigns that popped up over the last month alone and they're all paying hundreds of users to make the same sorts of posts and there's many more farmers that I know of who still need looking into. These ICO campaigns are both lazy and greedy and don't give a shit about the spam as long as the shit is getting smeared all over the forum promoting their scam but it needs to stop. If you pay for these sorts of posts your accounts should be banned, all threads trashed and their signatures forcibly removed/blacklisted but without theymos' help nothing will change.

This is Bitcointalk. The forum shouldn't cater to altcoins at all. Why give them the audience & platform to confuse people and take away from Bitcoin?  Just get rid of the altcoin section entirely and get back to discussing Bitcoin.

I've brought up this point before as well. And half of the ICOs apparently don't even offer alt coins but just tokens or shares or whatnot (though I don't look too much into them). I don't think theymos will kill that section either because of the amount of traffic it generates. I don't mind the alt coin section as it was created to keep the alt coin crap in its own little quarantine and I largely stay out of it, but with ICO campaigns that spam is spread out over the entire forum which shouldn't be acceptable.

[Reid]

We have moderators here right?
I think they are doing their job in keeping this forum clean.

But why fire to the legendary users when signature campaigns are the ones who wants to accept them?
They even made an effort to create a signature code for them.
Well, they have options to not accept legendary users if they want to. (Maybe you could talk to every campaign manager or dev for that). 

Ain't it going to be more chaotic if they are not accepted?
They have the possibility to just create another account just for the purpose of joining signature campaign and again and again.

Oh and there is this blacklist by the managers now so it is not that easy to join when every campaign is using this SMAS list.
So cheer up. Everything is good.

[Pearls Before Swine]

Agree with hilariousandco for the most part,  and spoetnik made some good points in another thread about theymos, and how this forum needs his support with regard to shitposters and account farming.  The community does a good job with the feedbacks but there needs to be more rules.

As for OP, I smell jelly.  Sig campaigns are a fantastic way to earn bitcoin, but it encourages the same lame posts from the same pathetic posters.