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July 12, 2017, 12:45:16 AM
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"Bitcoin Unlimited is supported by Roger Ver, a bitcoin entrepreneur that is claimed to own around 300,000 bitcoins, bitcoin.com and a large number of influential bitcoin domains. Ver can influence the popularity of BTU, via using bitcoin.com as a marketing tool, because, to the public, bitcoin.com might seem like an official bitcoin portal." (source: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/06/16/bitcoin-imminent-fork-aftermaths/)

So it seems this Roger Ver bloke wants the fork. He is on his way to having a $billion in bitcoin soon yet it has been said he wants the fork and it is said he is using the websites that people thing are official to push his views. (source: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/06/16/bitcoin-imminent-fork-aftermaths/)

Do you want the fork? Will it be better to stay single track or basically split the coins AND there is also a possibility of another split (source: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/06/16/bitcoin-imminent-fork-aftermaths/)

What will happen to bitcoin if the fork goes ahead? How will we benefit or lose out both short term and long term?


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July 12, 2017, 12:51:42 AM
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If he owns 300k bitcoins then that makes him a bitcoin whale however, his push towards the fork means he wants something to change.
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July 12, 2017, 12:56:26 AM
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If he owns 300k bitcoins then that makes him a bitcoin whale however, his push towards the fork means he wants something to change.

Spock once said (and Kirk followed suit later): "the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few, or the one" but it seems here the needs of the one with 300k bitcoins wants to shape the future of bitcoin that affects the many who are also involved...

Lesson For Future: Majority coin holder does NOT rule over minority coin holders.... !!


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July 12, 2017, 12:58:40 AM
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Spock once said (and Kirk followed suit later): "the needs of the many outweight the needs of the few, or the one" but it seems here the needs of the one with 300k bitcoins wants to shape the future of bitcoin that affects the many who are also involved...

Lesson For Future: Majority coin holders do NOT rule.... !!



That is a good quote, not sure if he actually wants that. Everyone has an inner greedy desire inside.
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Having a lot of Bitcoin matters but doesn't give you ownership of the network
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July 12, 2017, 01:35:41 AM
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It will always be 1% ruling the other 99%, although is there any proof to support your claim that he holds that many?

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July 12, 2017, 01:42:33 AM
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He's just a normal investor but he's one of those whales that makes the price of bitcoin moved. He wants the fork maybe there is something that he wanted to take advantage or he just want simply a good network for transactions. We don't know his ideas and well he's one of the richest bitcoin person.

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July 12, 2017, 11:02:47 AM
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@Metroid
Yes everyone (ish) has greedy desires but there is no guarantee for this Roger Ver bloke that he will actually benefit after any fork takes place and yes it makes him a whale if he has 300k bitcoin but here is the thing, even if he wants change there is no guarantee he will benefit from it

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I agree, having a large number of bitcoins does not give ownership of the network but this Roger Ver geezer seems to be pushing for change

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(source: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/06/16/bitcoin-imminent-fork-aftermaths/)

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I think we know ideas according to the links provided. What can be said confidently is that he owns bitcoin.com (which is not official domain) and some other websites to promote his own vision of what the future of bitcoin should look like



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July 12, 2017, 11:04:20 AM
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ver - heard involved with  lots of scams lately.... wouldn't trust.

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July 12, 2017, 11:39:14 AM
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ver - heard involved with  lots of scams lately.... wouldn't trust.

Can you provide the Source please, I would like to read it.

I feel that is true, just because someone is a whale it does not mean they have a right make a monumental historical decision on the basis they can push a point of view because of a few domain names and a few websites and because they have a large chunk of coins


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July 12, 2017, 11:40:41 AM
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ver - heard involved with  lots of scams lately.... wouldn't trust.

Can you provide the Source please, I would like to read it.

I feel that is true, just because someone is a whale it does not mean they have a right make a monumental historical decision on the basis they can push a point of view because of a few domain names and a few websites and because they have a large chunk of coins


In with proven scams like dash and proven scammers like dai from qtum.
Ver will push anything that makes him returns no matter the proven dirt attached to the project.
From bitcoin jesus to bitcoin satan many are saying

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July 12, 2017, 11:51:50 AM
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In with proven scams like dash and proven scammers like dai from qtum.
Ver will push anything that makes him returns no matter the proven dirt attached to the project.
From bitcoin jesus to bitcoin satan many are saying

Ah thank you for that information. I was away from the altcoin scene for a long time and did not know he was involved in Dash.

Oh well, if he has a reputation then maybe he will try to force through a fork but as of yet it is speculation and nothing has been confirmed (I think)

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July 12, 2017, 11:53:25 AM
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why are you posting a month old bitcoin news in the altcoin discussion board?














 

 

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July 12, 2017, 11:57:30 AM
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why are you posting a month old bitcoin news in the altcoin discussion board?

Because I want to.

Why are you writing a pointless question-cum-reply to the questions asked in the opening post:

Do you want the fork? Will it be better to stay single track or basically split the coins AND there is also a possibility of another split (source: https://www.deepdotweb.com/2017/06/16/bitcoin-imminent-fork-aftermaths/)

What will happen to bitcoin if the fork goes ahead? How will we benefit or lose out both short term and long term?

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July 12, 2017, 12:03:30 PM
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So it seems this Roger Ver bloke wants the fork. He is on his way to having a $billion in bitcoin soon yet it has been said he wants the fork

This gives more chance to end up with 2 chains (real fork).
However, he will have to discuss with the exchanges to accept BU too. The good part is that we'll have 2x number of coins. I don't expect him to lose money off this.
I also expect other whales with similar amounts of money to understand that SegWit is the direction to achieve evolution.
August 1 days will be .. interesting. The only smart move I can see is to buy more Bitcoin and keep them in wallet where we have full control over the private key. Let's earn money from both chains!

why are you posting a month old bitcoin news in the altcoin discussion board?

One of the chains will surely be called altcoin.
And everybody gets out all the tools they can for speculation in every ways possible.
We talk here about money. Big money.

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July 13, 2017, 12:17:34 AM
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why are you posting a month old bitcoin news in the altcoin discussion board?

Don't worry i reported him.. TO GLEB GAMOW !  Shocked



Oh and we are all greedy ?

Ya well tell that to the money i lit on fire..


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July 13, 2017, 12:38:08 AM
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Don't worry i reported him.. TO GLEB GAMOW !  Shocked

Holy Sheesh Kebabz ..... you are from Canada? I thought you were from Russia  Shocked

Yes please report me to Gringo Gamow and have me arrested by the Bitcoin Policio !

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July 13, 2017, 12:56:06 AM
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Does he really own 300k still?  Hasn't he pit a ton if it into Dash, Ethereum and other projects?
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July 13, 2017, 12:57:56 AM
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Does he really own 300k still?  Hasn't he pit a ton if it into Dash, Ethereum and other projects?

According to the source links which is very recent, he has 300k bitcoins. If he pumped a lot of it in to other projects then maybe the number drops but as per the link, that is what it states...

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July 16, 2017, 07:39:38 AM
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Stop and think for a moment.
If I own a large number of Bitcoins, and Bitcoin.com,  that means I'm financially motivated to do everything I can to improve the value of those assets.
This is unlike Adam Back, the CEO of Blockstream, who by his own admission, and despite having known about Bitcoin for about 5 years due to being contacted by Satoshi himself in 2008, he didn't own a single Bitcoin himself in April of 2013.  I doubt he has many bitcoins now either.

Compare that with someone like myself who spent nearly every penny I had buying Bitcoin as soon as I learned about them in 2011.
Adam Back can run circles around me when it comes to the underlying mathematics of Bitcoin,  but he has demonstrated by his own actions that he has absolutely no clue why Bitcoin came to be used as money, and to this day he still doesn't understand why Bitcoin is money. Sadly, his firm has done an incredible amount of harm to Bitcoin's adoption rate and has caused Bitcoin's market share to plummet from around 90% to less than 50% today.

Bitcoin is the only coin in the world to ever have had full blocks.
If we want to experiment with the effects of full blocks on a system,  it is incredibly reckless to do it on Bitcoin, yet that is exactly what Adam and his ilk have done.  If we want to experiment with full blocks, do it on an alt coin!

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