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Author Topic: [ANN] Signatum - New Algorithm - Fair Launch - No Premine  (Read 823876 times)
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July 31, 2017, 01:15:01 PM
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Yes, maybe sometimes they just take an open source code and REWORK IT, but that is like tuning a car. Using their time and knowledge.

They sell their knowledge, like lawyers do for example. Nobody is forced to buy their reworked software.

Only, the license of that Open Source code-base expressively FORBIDS not distributing the derivate work's source code.

Open Source doesn't mean "take it and do whatever you want". It means "take it and do with it whatever the license allows you to". Otherwise, it's simply theft. Certainly no one is going to sue him, but that's the same as stealing from a baby. Baby ain't gonna shoot you but you literally stole.

I dont' know about ccminer, but sgminer has it's own code, and opencl kernel files.
If he supplies his own kernel file, nothing in the miner source has to be changed.

sgminer is under the GPL ...

the kernel binaries are the developers work ( which is why wolf0 can sell his binaries and NOT break the GPL code ) ...

ccminer is under GPL ... which means it 'should' only be redistributed WITH its source code ... not compiled and SOLD to make money from it WITHOUT its source being redistributed also ... thats fine if you want to break the GPL license - but not so good if you want to show everyone that you are doing it - THEN yell out and complain that someone else is stealing 'YOUR' code ... thats just plain wrong ...

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July 31, 2017, 01:17:41 PM
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90% mined by one team with arended gpu or with bug in mine algoritm, they hyip in chat and here, when they want to sell shitcoin. I lost 1BTC with this stimulated pumps. This project was created for sell chip coins and drop it later. Don't trust that is not premined, it was in other way! This is pure fraud, 100%!!!
I am making no statement about fraud or not; but what I will say/type, is that I doubt we have seen the last of any booms & crashes / spikes & dives / pump & dumps with this coin yet.
Too many coins have been mined that have yet to be traded I would say. After the fork of BTC/BCC, I expect there to be some roller-coaster rides coming up.

we totally agree ...

we believe that there is a little more to be seen here ...

we all could be wrong - but thats the fun of crypto - the 'not knowing' Wink ...

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July 31, 2017, 01:44:57 PM
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Yes, maybe sometimes they just take an open source code and REWORK IT, but that is like tuning a car. Using their time and knowledge.

They sell their knowledge, like lawyers do for example. Nobody is forced to buy their reworked software.

Only, the license of that Open Source code-base expressively FORBIDS not distributing the derivate work's source code.

Open Source doesn't mean "take it and do whatever you want". It means "take it and do with it whatever the license allows you to". Otherwise, it's simply theft. Certainly no one is going to sue him, but that's the same as stealing from a baby. Baby ain't gonna shoot you but you literally stole.

I dont' know about ccminer, but sgminer has it's own code, and opencl kernel files.
If he supplies his own kernel file, nothing in the miner source has to be changed.

sgminer is under the GPL ...

the kernel binaries are the developers work ( which is why wolf0 can sell his binaries and NOT break the GPL code ) ...

ccminer is under GPL ... which means it 'should' only be redistributed WITH its source code ... not compiled and SOLD to make money from it WITHOUT its source being redistributed also ... thats fine if you want to break the GPL license - but not so good if you want to show everyone that you are doing it - THEN yell out and complain that someone else is stealing 'YOUR' code ... thats just plain wrong ...

#crysx

Tell about GPL to sp_ (who is asking for money for his binaries) and all others, I didn't see any skunkhash 'algo' code except orginal https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer :-D

BTW, rules here won't allow you to give coins, but you can charge for miner code? LOL

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July 31, 2017, 01:48:13 PM
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I also thought it was funny that SP_ released skunk mod sp1 which was based on ccminer alexis78. He modified maybe 1% of the original code. Sold it for 0.05 Btc to lots of people, gained 100% of the reward for his 1% modification, but alexis78 got 0% of the reward, though alexis was the one who did all the coding... And for some reason people think SP is some kind of a major developer here to deserves to receive all that money...
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July 31, 2017, 01:55:59 PM
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people are fighting about miner mod

why not work together to make this coin success
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July 31, 2017, 02:03:43 PM
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I also thought it was funny that SP_ released skunk mod sp1 which was based on ccminer alexis78. He modified maybe 1% of the original code. Sold it for 0.05 Btc to lots of people, gained 100% of the reward for his 1% modification, but alexis78 got 0% of the reward, though alexis was the one who did all the coding... And for some reason people think SP is some kind of a major developer here to deserves to receive all that money...

And they all forked cudaminer, which has 95% of core code of all ccminer versions :-D
I see one thing here: learn CUDA if you have nvidia or OpenCL if you have amd and you don't have to work anymore, just grab other's work,
add maybe 20 lines, don't forget about add yourself 'made by' printf and you become great person in crypto family.


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July 31, 2017, 02:09:31 PM
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people are fighting about miner mod

why not work together to make this coin success

i think only the dev have this potential, if he is not following his own roadmap we are screwed, this coin indeed need more features, as it is now ti's just a new altcoin with a nice new algo and nothing else, first it need some stron thing like masternodes(or better pos) or anonymity or segwit, then it need a new exchange with more volume, what about for example a pos system based on volume of exchange? you get a reward if the volume go very high other wise you get a lower reward

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July 31, 2017, 02:16:47 PM
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20 k blocks in 13 days my calculation is 8 weeks and pos activated.

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July 31, 2017, 02:19:47 PM
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I also thought it was funny that SP_ released skunk mod sp1 which was based on ccminer alexis78. He modified maybe 1% of the original code. Sold it for 0.05 Btc to lots of people, gained 100% of the reward for his 1% modification, but alexis78 got 0% of the reward, though alexis was the one who did all the coding... And for some reason people think SP is some kind of a major developer here to deserves to receive all that money...

And they all forked cudaminer, which has 95% of core code of all ccminer versions :-D
I see one thing here: learn CUDA if you have nvidia or OpenCL if you have amd and you don't have to work anymore, just grab other's work,
add maybe 20 lines, don't forget about add yourself 'made by' printf and you become great person in crypto family.



A.K.A Big-Hustla-Boss-Dev  Grin Grin Grin

Me too violating GPL as I don't release source, but think everybody understand why, 'cause there are devs who don't give a shit and work on steal'n'sell sheme. At least I do it for free and never hid that took alexis78's work as a base. Otherwise, chrysophylax and his team do it the way how it should be done fairly, that's people which I respect.

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July 31, 2017, 02:20:18 PM
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And they all forked cudaminer

That's not a bad thing to fork an open source project. Pushing shit to main project/repo has more evil. In addition, many good projects could be dead for now if no one forks.


don't forget about add yourself 'made by' printf

It's a normal development process. You add code - you write credits, so other devs (and users, too) could find out the author of shitcode/good code quickly and w/o investigation of git/hg commits. Btw it's not normal to pack and sell such a miner and say it's your miner. You should sell your new .cl files for new algo(s), or a patch instead.
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July 31, 2017, 02:21:29 PM
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I also thought it was funny that SP_ released skunk mod sp1 which was based on ccminer alexis78. He modified maybe 1% of the original code. Sold it for 0.05 Btc to lots of people, gained 100% of the reward for his 1% modification, but alexis78 got 0% of the reward, though alexis was the one who did all the coding... And for some reason people think SP is some kind of a major developer here to deserves to receive all that money...

And they all forked cudaminer, which has 95% of core code of all ccminer versions :-D
I see one thing here: learn CUDA if you have nvidia or OpenCL if you have amd and you don't have to work anymore, just grab other's work,
add maybe 20 lines, don't forget about add yourself 'made by' printf and you become great person in crypto family.



I had to register to post a reply here Smiley So I welcome myself here, thx guys Wink

Anyway, I wanted to point out my view on SP mods. Personally I would not buy from him. Even if the benefits are obvious compared to "stock" version. Its simple. Demand drives the market. And that is valid for everything. Crypto coins, hardware, modified miners etc. So If people keep buying he will keep selling. No rules here will stop this. And im not talking about fairness.

And while still here, SIGT can and could make it. As I said demand drives the market and in this case price up. So if you believe in this coin, keep on mining, keep on promoting, keep the community alive and it will be good unless dev wont disappear Smiley I dont sell coins for profit, I only take for electricity, rest is as an investment or actually using them if the market will be there where to spend them at.
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July 31, 2017, 03:21:02 PM
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Nice chart! If you can expand it more, it will be better than the official block explorer.
You mean more days? Maybe I can do a week, the only reason I created it is to know the difficulty trend. Historical data is not really useful, just for the info)

Nice work on the block explorer and thanx for sharing the "info" on miner.  Now the profitability of everything is pretty much same so I am mining something else for now. I have reached a good target to stake later. I am just going to hold it and see what happens. If I end up gaining profits I will send you some as tip just for being great to this forum and all your help. cheers

I'm holding on to mine, as it's so low now, what's the point in selling... I'll either ride it into oblivion, or enjoy a resurgence (over the long haul) if that ever comes to pass.

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July 31, 2017, 03:31:40 PM
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people are fighting about miner mod

why not work together to make this coin success

i think only the dev have this potential, if he is not following his own roadmap we are screwed, this coin indeed need more features, as it is now ti's just a new altcoin with a nice new algo and nothing else, first it need some stron thing like masternodes(or better pos) or anonymity or segwit, then it need a new exchange with more volume, what about for example a pos system based on volume of exchange? you get a reward if the volume go very high other wise you get a lower reward

im totaly agree with you
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July 31, 2017, 04:00:47 PM
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I get only 13,6 mh/s with a GTX 1080.

https://github.com/signatumd/releases/blob/master/ccminer-2.2-skunk.zip <- this miner.

Is that normal ?

Do you know a calculator for this coin?


Edit:

With CCMiner now ~24,5 MH/s.


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You are better off using Palgin's mod instead.

https://github.com/palginpav/ccminer/releases/tag/skunk-1

Then there is sp version but it cost you 0.05 btc and is not much faster than Palgin.

Everything else in this thread is a risk to use regarding virus etc.

How much would i get with this mod?


I get 33-35 with the one from palgin on a 1080
Profit calculator here : https://whattomine.com/coins/191-sigt-skunkhash

/edit : also this miner seems to be promising : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2054431.0
not tested yet.

Whats your mem core and powelimt?

I'm getting about 48mh with my 1080ti Core +100 Mem +100 Powerlimit 250
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July 31, 2017, 04:03:35 PM
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I use the following miner:
https://github.com/nemosminer/ccminer-skunk-jha

No viruses detected by KIS2017.
Got the following results:
GTX1060 - 16Mh/s
GTX1070 - 27Mh/s
GTX1080 - 36Mh/s
GTX1080Ti - 47Mh/s
litlle bit donvolted and overclocked GPUs

Im getting 48mh on the 1080ti +100mem +100 core 250pl

Whats your settings?
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July 31, 2017, 04:23:57 PM
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Im getting 48mh on the 1080ti +100mem +100 core 250pl

Whats your settings?
No need for mem overclock on this algo.
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July 31, 2017, 04:28:23 PM
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Has anyone tested 280x GPUs with this? What are its hash rates?
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July 31, 2017, 04:37:23 PM
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Has anyone tested 280x GPUs with this? What are its hash rates?

I believe those are too old - you can only use the default miner and it's maybe 17 MH

Best to stick to other coins with those cards

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July 31, 2017, 05:10:12 PM
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sigt.suprnova.cc  What's the problem?
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July 31, 2017, 05:12:04 PM
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i believe that was a global problem. At least I didnt find for about a half hour any signatum poll working.
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