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March 22, 2018, 03:15:37 PM
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What is considered referral code spam? One of those full on advertising posts with referral codes all over it like were posted when tradehill opened? What if it's a little more subtle? What about low content posts with the code in the signature?

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, is there any reason to not just fully ban referral codes? They're mostly just spam and don't really benefit the forum any. And then it'd be a clear enforceable line.

Just a thought.
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March 22, 2018, 03:18:56 PM
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"zero-value" "entertaining" "pointless" "uninteresting" 
All these words are opinion based. they do for the forum what the term "terrorist" did for america. I agree, honest is best, remove "free speech" from the list. maybe you would want to consider adding "no slandering of individuals reputation" considering posts like this one:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20340.20

It's just not right for people to talk about things like this is public.

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looks like i really put my foot in my mouth this time, maybe we shouldn't lock threads based on peoples accusations of other people:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20440.0
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March 22, 2018, 03:21:06 PM
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1. Free speech - you can say anything as long as it is relevant and presented in a calm and polite manner. Swearing, SHOUTING etc. make your post more likely to be removed.

2. No zero value posts or threads, like "SELL SELL SELL"

3. No pointless or uninteresting threads.

4. No referral code spam

5. No NSFW content


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These all sound reasonable to me, harmful but reasonable, number 1 is the most likely to be harmful to building the character of a robust community.

I can see any number of posts that would be worthwhile and add to the character of this forum (to any forum) yet would fall foul of many of these caveats.

For instance swearing is so culturally divisive that what might be seen as a genuine transgression by one person is simply humor (or more precisely 'humour') to another. From personal experience I know that - for example - Americans are can be offended by language that people from the UK are indifferent to, or even see as endearing, what to one person imbues a post with spirit and character to another renders it offensive.

But of course nobody wants to have to 'listen' to someone hurling unnecessary and unwarranted abuse at another poster, so there is a real need to keep a check on this kind of thing, at least to some degree.

I suggest you make a distinction between swearing per se and ad hominem, for example here are two examples . . .

A) Oh, for fuck's sake I can't believe they've increased their fucking charges for THE SECOND TIME in a freaking month! This is really starting to piss me off, they are just going to drive business elsewhere . . . (and so on)

B) It's clueless people like you who think you know it all, running around like some kind of genius telling everyone who will listen how great you think you are. Yet time after time you get it wrong and end up with the whole forum laughing at the sorry spectacle you have become, mostly through your own stupidity . . . (and so on)

. . . example A contains swearing yet is (to these ears at least) not in the least bit offensive, example B is pure ad hominem, likely to elicit a similar response and is corrosive to the conversation.

If on the other hand there is simply going to be a list of censored words then why not just use the BB software to track and change them, much like a US religious forum, so 'shit' becomes 'poopy' - and 'no fucking way!' becomes 'no damn way'.

Personally I think this kind of thing is a move in the wrong direction, I am a member of a cycling forum in the UK that has zero moderation and the tone and sense of community is something even the best drawn up list of rules could not come close to, the forum has grown from nothing to 50,000 + and suffers none of the problems lists of rules like these seek to address.

It's fucking great !

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March 22, 2018, 03:23:31 PM
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while i'm always pro transparency i see it's the right of the owners of this forum to delete as many posts as they want. you are free to leave. in fact i hope there will grow competition as with just one forum only, there is quite some power to manipulate the market by just randomly going offline.
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March 22, 2018, 03:30:23 PM
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I noticed I can't delete my own posts anymore.
I used to keep my posts count low, deleting from threads to stop being notified
now I can only edit the post but the delete link is gone
will it stay this way, please?
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March 22, 2018, 03:33:13 PM
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Make a public viewable Trashcan board in Other so that mods can move all trash-topics to the trashcan.
The trashcan board should be locked for users to reply, only readable.
Helps to educate users and prevent more garbage, users can see what undesirable content is.

And if you want the board to be more serious you can create a "Humor" section so mods don't have to trash these, but just move to this board.
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March 22, 2018, 03:34:46 PM
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Can we please get some moderation on the thread in which the asshole lawyer filed a trademark claim on bitcoin?  I agree he's a jerk and I'd like to see him disbarred or disciplined for filing a fraudulent claim, but the "assassination market" posts are too much and should be deleted.  The world is watching, and as someone who is investing thousands of dollars in a Bitcoin related-business, I'm very concerned about the image these forums are giving the world.
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March 22, 2018, 03:37:00 PM
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Hi! I wonder is there any moderation rule about moving stuff out of "Bitcoin Discussion"? I know it is very tempting to use it and not care about the sub forums and I think new projects deserve the publicity and come here but I wonder if it would make sense to aggressively try to move threads out of there when they are a week or two old? I'm referring to project specific stuff like:

[ANNOUNCE] TORwallet - anonymous mixing wallet service (12-06-13)
[Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation (12-05-28)
BITCOIN MAGAZINE ARRIVED! (12-05-24)
and many more that get bumped up for weeks and months and that I'm just tired of seeing as following them got far too off track, repetitive or plain pointless
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March 22, 2018, 03:39:05 PM
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After 9 years regular army and a lifetime as an interstate truck driver, I believe I've heard it all, but expletive suffused posts still drive me spare, so I excersise my own form of moderation, if you can't express yourself in a Proper manner than I will simply ignore your post, no matter how relevant, informative or interesting it may be.

I've been part of ( and still am) many forums where offensive language is simply not tolerated, likewise with personal attacks involving race, creed, colour or religion, sexual proclivities or otherwise, yet the debate still remains robust.

Free speech by all means, but with free speech comes responsibility too and a limitless courtesy and respect go a long way.
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March 22, 2018, 08:08:06 PM
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We really want things to move forward.
Fighting bots ans collateral dammages of Bounties Hunts.
In the french section we try to make a change...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179526.new#new

Don't let Satoshi down!

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March 24, 2018, 11:40:51 AM
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Tip for new users. Do not write short messages. They are deleted. To prevent messages from being deleted, you must write long messages. My messages, which consisted of 10 words, were deleted. Activity = 0.
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March 24, 2018, 11:54:06 AM
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Tip for new users. Do not write short messages. They are deleted. To prevent messages from being deleted, you must write long messages. My messages, which consisted of 10 words, were deleted. Activity = 0.

This is nonsense. It doesn't matter how short or long your posts are but posts are removed for breaking the rules which you should read about here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

Your posts probably consisted of short pointless messages like "thanks for this project" or just saying things like "watching", "great" etc and that's why they will have been removed. Stretching your responses out to 10+ words wouldn't have helped in this instance.

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March 26, 2018, 05:25:03 PM
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Does anyone else get the feeling that a lot of noob shitposters probably account farmers as well are posting garbage in these stickied threads ? I'm thinking they've learned that their posts get deleted in the spam threads when the whole thread gets nuked , so they're posting on ones they know aren't going to be. Or maybe that just my cynicism and paranoia speaking here. Still, I think the theory has some validity. I've recently reported a few zero value posts from stickied threads.
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March 26, 2018, 05:58:19 PM
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Does anyone else get the feeling that a lot of noob shitposters probably account farmers as well are posting garbage in these stickied threads ? I'm thinking they've learned that their posts get deleted in the spam threads when the whole thread gets nuked , so they're posting on ones they know aren't going to be. Or maybe that just my cynicism and paranoia speaking here. Still, I think the theory has some validity. I've recently reported a few zero value posts from stickied threads.

Sometimes the irony is just too much:

Does anyone else get the feeling that a lot of noob shitposters--probably account farmers as well--are posting garbage in these stickied threads?  I'm thinking they've learned that their posts get deleted in the spam threads when the whole thread gets nuked, so they're posting on ones they know aren't going to be.  Or maybe that's just my cynicism and paranoia speaking here.  Still, I think the theory has some validity.   I've recently reported a few zero value posts from stickied threads. 

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March 27, 2018, 03:10:09 AM
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For the life of me I dont understand why bitcointalk allows posters to self moderate or lock topics in the marketplace. This is an invitation for Scammers and its like telling them welcome here, start your scam!!

This forum has turned into a Scammers paradise. Wonder who put this crap policy that they can self moderate.

Just think about a minute for it and the consequences of how many people are getting ripped off. One must be mad to allow this.
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April 01, 2018, 10:25:00 AM
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I have a concern regarding the Altcoin bounty thread. For some company(not all) it seems like 100 threads for one bounty/airdrop campaign. Sometimes it hard to track. there should be a one stop support for all bounties in one thread for one company. Sometimes I found the members are submitting their weekly task by adding reply instead of editing first reply of thread. It makes the thread more complicated and hard for bounty manager to track.

My apology if i made any mistake.
Exceptional concern about the Altcoin resources thread. For some company(not all) it seems like 100 threads for just one bounty/airdrop campaign. Sometimes it hard to track. there should be an one stop support for all bounties in one thread for one company. Sometimes I actually found the members are submitting their weekly process by adding reply rather than editing first reply of thread. It makes the thread more complicated and hard for bounty administrator to track
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April 05, 2018, 06:00:07 PM
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I made a question-thread about btc growing up, but moderator has removed id.
Why?
I made all by rules you wrote there
Perhaps was counted as "pointless" or "repetitive" (to the one that handled/trashed it):

23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.[e]

23. This rule is meant to prevent from users exploiting possible loopholes in the rules or some interpretations that follow the literal meaning of the rule rather than the meaning of what it truly wanted to prevent.

More rules can be found on this thread: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

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April 08, 2018, 06:17:40 PM
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Does anyone else get the feeling that a lot of noob shitposters probably account farmers as well are posting garbage in these stickied threads ? I'm thinking they've learned that their posts get deleted in the spam threads when the whole thread gets nuked , so they're posting on ones they know aren't going to be. Or maybe that just my cynicism and paranoia speaking here. Still, I think the theory has some validity. I've recently reported a few zero value posts from stickied threads.

Sometimes the irony is just too much:

Does anyone else get the feeling that a lot of noob shitposters--probably account farmers as well--are posting garbage in these stickied threads?  I'm thinking they've learned that their posts get deleted in the spam threads when the whole thread gets nuked, so they're posting on ones they know aren't going to be.  Or maybe that's just my cynicism and paranoia speaking here.  Still, I think the theory has some validity.   I've recently reported a few zero value posts from stickied threads. 

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April 11, 2018, 12:06:00 AM
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I think the moderation policy has to be kept, even though I have been a victim over time, that is because for any organization to function effectively, there has to be a policy, guidelines or rules and regulations guiding that organization. So we need not to be angry over the actions of the moderator in this forum. For me, i have been worn severally but yet am still here, trying to do the right thing in order stay in the forum.
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April 11, 2018, 10:24:47 AM
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I think the moderation policy has to be kept, even though I have been a victim over time, that is because for any organization to function effectively, there has to be a policy, guidelines or rules and regulations guiding that organization. So we need not to be angry over the actions of the moderator in this forum. For me, i have been worn severally but yet am still here, trying to do the right thing in order stay in the forum.
Yes, i have been scammed one tine, I'm only beginner in here and i want so badly invest bitcoin, I don't think about all. All about my mind is to investing bitcoin. I don't reseqrch my buyer/seller. So when i experience this, it gives me a lesson and after that before i invest or buy coins. I'm check if it is legit or not
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